[000:00:00;00] to the european union, there will be no economic problems for these states, and ukraine will definitely receive its additional quotas for the import of certain products regarding security itself, regarding the migration of people and similar other things, and the seven points that we have fulfilled now do not mean at all that in the context of ukrainian legislation, we will not need to make other decisions, there are simply tens of hundreds of volumes of european directives that ukraine... implement into our legislation and this is what awaits us in the coming years. therefore, in this context, the statement in representatives of the european union in ukraine on the amount of tasks we still have to complete and will receive from our colleagues. but at the same time, despite the fact that the figure of seven years appears to be such a long period of time, if you look at the history of ukraine's accession to the european union, and knowing that the first offices

of european institutions. opened in kyiv in 1993, then looking back 30 years, the seven years ahead do not seem like such a global period of time. war and unheroism against ukrainians in russian aggression, this process would be much, much more longer mr. maksym, i am now turning to maksym nesvitaylov, you know, we have a lot of namesakes on the air today, maybe we should make a wish, i will probably think about the victory of ukraine. perhaps it will come true, let’s say that on this very day we did everything for it, the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, commented, also republicans, trumpists, they are actively trying to reduce support for ukraine and are speculating in this way on this topic of corruption, do you agree with these arguments, does it really now have much effect on what happening in congress? well, of course it is,

it is true. er, and what we see, according to the same letter that was sent by a certain group of republicans, trumpists, to the white house, it is said that you will also give a scenario of victory, and then explain that and tell about this, and in general, only that letter can be read until the ukrainian victory , but only after we do everything that depends on us to provide financial assistance to ukraine, that this is part of their pre-election strategy, they adhere to it, they submit everything under this guise, well, help to ukraine does not go far here, he declared that , first, let 's give housing to every homeless person there, we will give financial support to every young family there in the united states of america, only after that, if we have money left, we will help

different ukraines there, that is, absolutely. frank populism, and a part of this populism is also such a systematic discrediting of ukraine with the pretext of showing, well, let's see if the level of corruption there was high enough, let's compare the level of aid provided to ukraine and the funds that were spent by the united states on the war in afghanistan, only the equipment left behind, after the united states left afghanistan, there remained more than 80. in general, the sums spent on the war in afghanistan, they fluctuate, it seems, about 400 billion dollars, it is not possible to compare these amounts at all. let's now talk, in particular, about one of the resonant topics of recent days, about the publication in the magazine the time, yes, where it was mentioned, in particular, it was mentioned, in particular of ukraine and the president of ukraine, in general, we will now analyze in more detail, probably

theses. expressed by the author, but first, to what extent can it be perceived and discussed on the air for communication channels, for example, some information from anonymous sources must be checked, well, here it turns out that a journalist of a reputable publication, yes, makes such material, referring to the sources there, what they were at all is another matter, but let's start with your impressions, gentlemen, literally half a minute at a time, and then we'll analyze the main theses, mr. maksym and mr. maksym, please, mr. maksym, svetaylov, let's start with you, 3 seconds please, sir, mr. maksym dzhigun, it is negative enough, the article was perceived as speculative and manipulative and although to a certain extent it is permissible in journalism, of course to use anonymous sources, but when the main part of your material is based on anonymous unnamed sources, then some

of its subjectivity and reality must be very much doubted, mr. maksym, continue, i have a feeling that this material has become such a vision of the ukrainian society and which lives here and which observes the political process and participates in it, and the key point is that if some material appears in such publications, it does not appear just like that, so here it is worth considering it from a perspective who are the shareholders of the publication, and what references they made there, for example, to the current authorities of the united states, a rather complementary format, and what they wanted to convey to the ukrainian authorities with this material. so, let's now make the article of the time magazine about the president a little more specific volodymyr zelensky's war and corruption of ukraine caused a stormy reaction from politicians and society. mykhailo podalyak, assistant to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, called

what was presented a subjective point of view with strange anonymous sources and expressed surprise at the information that the president is allegedly going to fire the minister and the general. personnel changes, they say, as in civilians, and let's not forget that this is a subjective point. from the point of view of a specific journalist who has his own vision of what is happening, this is the first secondly, i don't understand at all what anonymous sources are, because when i talk to someone on behalf of the office of the president, i make sure to say that it's me, because it's so right, because i think that in some places these anonymous sources are people who do not have access to certain information, but who are somewhere nearby and they want to increase their weight and pass their visions as construction for this type of texts. mr. maksym dzhigun, who is currently interested in discrediting ukraine in the west, let's talk again, and could such a material in your opinion to be ordered?

well, any material is ordered to one degree or another, because it is ordered by the editorial office, or it is ordered by some shareholder of a particular publication, i would not say that it is too discrediting, but what it is, it is in ukraine. this is very disturbing, so i would say yes, we should pay attention to some aspects of what is written there, and in particular in the context of the address of the last president there to the american congress or rather representatives, where the journalist said what he stated about what needs to be shaped some other order, and there is actually some logic here. because it seems to me that we have to start from the position of economic advantages for the west to invest in ukraine in the context of finances and military support, here i agree with the things there about taking some settlements there, which

are issued by the preza office, knowing at the same time that in our country, the military direction works separately from the political one, and the decisions made by the military command are self-sufficient . and the majority of representatives of the republic are absolutely adequate and sober-minded people who communicated directly with the ukrainian delegation, who visit ukraine from time to time, inform their impressions of what is happening here, but let's say for example, for the trump environment and especially its isolation such a wing, which they had a very clear and sharp feeling... about the fact that there is no need to work with ukraine. well, mr. maksym, thank you for this, it was maksym dzhigun,

a political scientist, thank you, mr. maksym nesvitaylov, in fact, it seems to me that the national security and defense council has placed the emphasis correctly here , oleksiy danilov said that it would be good for law enforcement officers or special services to find out who is in the president's entourage in this way, first of all, as a matter of state secrets in the composition military council, for example, at the president's or a meeting of the stake, and then shares this information with journalists, that is, if we speak frankly, that is, can we assert from the words again of the secretary of the national security council that in the office of the president there are people who let's say, for one reason or another, they can intentionally share, well, i'm not discrediting , but let's say this, information that can play against, let's say our, structure can be found... such people, unfortunately, human nature, it's not ideal, but it there may well be people who have not been in the president's office for a long time, i would even say that they have not been in ukraine for a long time and are more engaged, not in working for

the victory of ukraine, in raising their ratings, hoping that in they will have a chance to win the presidential elections elections, the next, but that is already a topic for a separate conversation, it is very important to understand who a... the author of this article, who is the author of this work, to analyze his activities, simon shuster is not only a native of moscow, a person who worked there for more than 15 years, as in ukraine. and in russia at the same time, he stated in his certain interviews that he loves russia very much there, he loves moscow very much, in his materials he called azov a neo-nazi organization, he went to crimea, bought such pessimistic articles, regarding the extent to which ukraine has any chances in confrontation with the russian federation, so if someone there followed his materials, the general tone of the material that he released in the time is not a surprise for him, therefore, in the aggregate from

the personal the author, with those anonymous sources who gave comments, unfortunately, of course, we can't just tell everyone, let's ignore this material and let's cover this story with something more vivid and constructive. thank you, mr. maksym, thank you, maksym nesvitaylov, expert an internationalist, joined our broadcast, spoke, talked about one of the top topics of recent times, material, i think we will have to return to this topic. because in a certain way we hope that it will not fundamentally affect, let's say, well, of course it will not affect the support from the west, then to explain why, let's say , that is not so with such posts in the future, we will have to make the article much more emotional than the two previous ones written by simon schuster about volodymyr zelenskyi , including do you think this is a tool, well in my opinion, the tool here is even just the cover of this magazine, i think that it is possible to analyze here in detail, it is asked right away even from the first words, because it is clearly

emphasized that everyone wants to be on the cover at and near the end of the year, let's talk now, yasyu about what directly concerns each of us ukrainians, because even though the war continues, our viewers also paid attention to a certain positive trend, which we will talk about later, so the hryvnia continues to strengthen, at the national bank it is 36 hryvnias 25 kopecks, in exchange offices a little more expensive, the dollar is sold for an average of 37.75, bought for 37.64, and for the euro in exchange offices they offer a little more than 40 hryvnias now, and with us mykhailo kolisnyk, professor of the kyiv school of economics and president of cf what is happening with the foreign exchange market with the hryvnia exchange rate , what affects him now? good day, friends, glory to ukraine, you yourself, by the way, just explained, you said, life goes on, and in order to live you need... to have hryvnias, not dollars, so those who need, strictly

speaking, the national currency, actually speaking, they go and hand over dollars in exchange offices, or sell, as a matter of fact, on the stock exchange, and this, as a matter of fact, is the trend that has recently led to a certain strengthening of the national currency, unfortunately, i have to throw a huge spoonful of tar into a barrel of honey, everything will not be like that, and unfortunately , you and i do not have long-term reasons for strengthening the national currency, so i understand that the forecasts, they say, are not ungrateful, yes, but, if for our viewers, you can give, let's say the forecast in short, well, look, i'll try to break it down into sections, there short-term factors that affect the exchange rate of the national currency and long-term, among the short-term factors, first of all, the ratio: money masses, which are dollars and

hryvnias, well, actually speaking, the fact that now at the current moment in time the economy has such a situation, when and agrarians, having received a certain allowance, now , well, let's put it this way, convert savings into hryvnias for some current needs for work, besides, the economy has been working with you recently, even a little better, despite the bad situation as a matter of fact, it was adjusted, but this is in the short-term perspective, well, there are a number of such positive signals that occurred in the economy, this is in particular the signal sent to us by the regulator of the nbu, i mean from me, after all, the nbu in this situation should be supported, and these are all factors, they have now developed in such a way that they have a positive effect on the strengthening of the national currency, but there are long-term factors, you see, the exchange rate actually... depends on, in the long-term perspective,

how much the country produces for export, how much imports it imports, well, roughly speaking, the country must earn, and not receive aid or handouts, or can it buy the imports it needs with them, so the situation with imports and exports in our country has developed, to put it mildly, not very good, and having, as a matter of fact, a huge bias in the direction of imports, we can...' predict for the future, i'm talking in the future, in years, and further creeping strengthening of the international currency, yes, strengthening not on... of the national currency , let's say so. the dollar exchange rate can to be, well, 37-38

. the rate is at the level of 42, somewhere approximately, that is, if there are no extraordinary geopolitical or other events, usually, mr. mykhay. the exchange rate is rising somewhat, the exchange rate, we are now approaching this period, can you tell our viewers roughly what awaits us literally in that period, well, new year's christmas holidays, let's call it that. well, i am not a prophet and i am not the lord god to say what will happen in this situation between you and me. as i see most sources, and i am also inclined to this opinion, they write that we can expect some volatility, yes, that is, currency fluctuations. exchange rate for that period, in the end, they will be seen as a good object for speculative operations, for those who have large volumes and could win or lose on it, but at the beginning of our conversation with you i said about a positive trend in the strengthening of the hryvnia, and here i allowed himself the word "evaluative judgment" is positive, but

the minister of finance, as far as i understand it, serhii marchenko, could argue with me , he said that the strengthening of the hryvnia exchange rate is not justified. and in ukraine they said nothing when talking about import and export, but let's say so, if there is such an opinion, the minister of finance, and you confirm, well, his words, then what possible negative consequences could be caused by the fact that we are currently there focused on strengthening the national currency, well, in fact, in the economy, any consequences can have both positive and negative effect, we are used to it: it is purely psychological to believe that an old man says: oh, lard has become cheaper, i have become rich, yes, well, somewhere on the market, a small pension from him, actually, his well-being in this situation depends on it, but despite everything from a macroeconomic point of view, the strengthening of the national currency will mean a certain

decrease in the competitiveness of those goods that ukraine sells for export, that is , a certain regulation is taking place, and in this regard, for whom, that is, why is it likely to hit? look, it's true now it is not the season in this case, but these are primarily those markets where producers, what are called price stakers, that is, they do not determine the price in this market, cannot engage in marketing, somehow differentiate themselves, but are forced to sell at world prices, well, this is the first after all, raw materials markets, the market of agricultural products, again raw materials, have a critical impact on the export of these products in our country. since this type of product dominates the structure of our country's exports so far , it is not a good signal for farmers. and in general, mr. mykhailo, should

our viewers now expect a probable increase in certain groups of product categories. if we say that you are forecasting, probably by the end of the year, the situation will be... the currency market is stable, it means that, let's say, the table and i don't know, maybe some bigger purchases, so are there forecasts for the growth of certain categories? er, i think that in fact, there should not be such very big fears about growth in society, besides, inflation, which was predicted for this year to be somewhat higher, so far shows lower values, and to by the end of the year, substantial changes are not expected, once again unless there will be some significance, but we cannot directly take and forecast these events, so i would like to urge citizens to spend funds, spend money, by doing so, they will speed up the circulation of money in economy, and this contributes to the growth of gdp, this money will return to you simply

from someone else, let's say this, we saw that there is indeed a positive dynamic in the fall of inflation, and here, mr. mykhailo, here i would like it, if we today... already we have such an advisor section, well, we understand that not all methods are available are suitable for this, because often, for example, the interest we receive for some kind of deposit there, for example, does not exceed inflation, now the situation, as far as i understand , has changed, and here we discussed with our guests in past broadcasts about, say, what is better there , deposits or military bonds, or to keep under the mattress, i would like to hear your point of view, that is, is it profitable to keep cash in your hands at all now, if you say that it can be up to 42 hryvnias per... dollar, then well the conclusion is immediately asked, they can get it in the bank, what do you say taking into account inflation? well, look, we are talking about 42 in a slightly more distant perspective, so next year. and if you are going to invest money for short periods of time, let's talk about the perspective of one month, two months, then

you can, in principle, try including deposits in the national currency. in the end, i always treat this situation like this, a torus that allows you to calculate at what exchange rate change and at what interest rates, for example, on foreign currency deposits and on deposits in... national currency, these the two options become equivalent, let's say so, and this means that those who invest in deposits in the national currency, they actually, well, as they say, bet on the risk, their rate, against the rate, prospects of one or two months and winnings on national deposits are not very attractive to our viewers, then we can suggest them to do the best thing in this case: invest money in themselves, in their education, in qualifications, in the education of their children, this is

a more greedy investment option. thank you, mr. mykhailo, for your advice, very valuable, and maybe even people will take advantage now, our viewers will take advantage , they will start to monitor their expenses more, maybe they will create something in excel tables, honestly, it's not for me yet, but i'm working in this direction. we still have a few minutes, they tell us, they tell us, i'm here for the last time, yes, if we're talking about storage, let's say this, it's cash on hand, as they say in the people, yes, what are the risks here, let's say this, yes, there is, well, what, well, i’m saying, in a jar of three, three liters, as they say, it’s not worth keeping, well, you understand that any money is lost, if it was not a deposit.

and therefore investments in three-liter banks, there are two-liter ones, investments in a linen closet, investments in the volume of marx's capital in a book, these are investments with zero profitability and all possible risks, you are guaranteed to lose money from the point of view of all those risks, well, unfortunate people of the cases that you have already mentioned, they will certainly take place, and there is one more biggest one: the risk is global, let's say, yes, if all citizens decide so of ukraine, then the speed of circulation of money will slow down very, very much, we will have to pour in additional national currency, for example, and as a result, as a result,