to declare ukraine an independent democratic state on august 24, 1991. for 346. glory to ukraine. glory to you blue mountains covered with ice. and you are great knights, not forgotten by god. fight, fight. give it to me 1000 years of state formation, 105 years of struggle. 32 years of restoration of independence. the rules of a warm country - a high-rise building. get together with neighbors, inspect the house, bring in specialists for insulation, prepare batteries, repair and adjust windows and doors, check electrical wiring, take care of a warm room and personal generator, to equip the premises for common heating.

let's defeat the winter together, the chevrons that bring victory closer, ukrainian gives freedom, we will not be destroyed, strength protects us we will go, we will go, we will go to victory in spite of everything, ukrainian is the language of the free, i don't know if i can, it's enough for me that i i have, women don't get paid that much, he's more professional than me, can i change something, i don't deserve that kind of money, of course you can. anything that can work at night

must work at night. boiler heating, charging gadgets, warm floor and a heater, dry laundry in the washing machine, unload the electricity network in the morning and in the evening, use the simple rules of a warm country: we will beat the winter. there is no place for women at the front, for some reason such a moss-covered statement is still often found in the modern world, but my guest today , women definitely do no less for victory, even when they no longer have the opportunity to be at the front... female veterans help the army in

different ways , so i am visiting the co-founder of the veteran movement, the organization of active servicemen and proactive civilian women who have a common desire and fight for a professional army where equal rights for men and women are guaranteed. kateryna pryimak, the heroine of today's face project, i congratulate you, it recently happened that you presented a new costume specifically for women. it was prepared, how was it, how did this need arise in general, but here we need to make a little distinction, it was certainly not our organization that did it, and it was done by ukrbronya, but we have been advocating for a long time, in general, material support is appropriate for women, because, well, if you start from the beginning, women are conditional officially enter the security and defense sector, and we see that... absolutely

nothing is ready for women, that is, the whole sphere of life in the army, it should be so gender sensitive, that is, it is such everyday things, women's, men's a toilet, for example, yes there , showers, female uniforms, male uniforms, doctors that women need, and there are also certain conditions that meet their needs, and fulfill their professional duty, and grow professionally, but if... we talk about our country, if we talk about our realities and about our army, here everything is very complex and complicated, starting from the actual acquisition of a career in the army, that is, if it is obtained by years of service, as it is until now, this is a very strange approach, it is absolutely not a professional approach, but you cannot sit for six years, like sitting out your

rank, yes officer, and for that you need to find a position that corresponds to your, your rank, and this is not a function, a person, a position, yes, these are some such things, very strange, and in such a system, first of all, it is difficult for a woman to protect yourself, and it is precisely this type of apovo, let's go further, that not everyone gets off problems, including the fact that women are handed men's underpants, well, until now, we are waiting, if the provision has been adopted now and it is not clear whether it is getting worse, so much from men's, here it is very much like that, i would like to represent an organization of women, by no means those, who makes bulletproof vests, and i, as a person with experience, who has a certain level of expertise there, i have never seen a female bulletproof vest before the ukrbrony bulletproof vest, but in fact , in the ukrbrony bulletproof vest for women, there are such buffers under the chest and chest, that's what allows for

a tight fit, and if it falls into body armor, there is such a thing as armor injury, that is, it also reduces the armor injury accordingly, but here there are several options for how a female body armor should theoretically look, like from the armor of xena princess warrior, yes, like with such yanks, well, that’s me i am joking, of course, this armor is modern, but there is an important thing, that is, if a woman has large breasts, and her plate will be further from the body, accordingly, it will cover a smaller area of ​​​​the body, and this gives the opportunity to pierce her with a bullet, or a fragment . aa the organ that should have been covered by the plate, that is, uh, here all the same, you need a certain period of time to test all of this, and there are different, as it is called , well, a different set, the configuration of these

plate carriers, that is, there is maximum protection, there is simply a lightweight type plate carrier, but here is your question. specialization, your profession, yes, there, your conditions, where you serve, really a light armored car, it is very necessary, an important thing, but it is far from suitable for everyone, well, it is still light, it will be like, most often have nuances in protection, and if you're a stormtrooper, you still need to type yourself difficult, well, there is the sixth grade, well, of course, to be protected, and what is definitely there is a uniform for girls, now we will demonstrate it in person. to our viewers, and you will tell us what’s special about it, it’s insulated, it’s a winter suit, what’s the difference between a woman’s form and a man’s, there’s a fit, there are different tucks under the chest, a different cut at the shoulders, that’s why

the fit is higher, men’s pants often put pressure for women, there are almost bruises, they leave on the thigh area and in this, well, it is clear that if the fit is lower, you are bent somewhere, it is obvious a piggy bank, well, who needs it, this one, there is another difference in the structure, in the structure of the legs, and the knee, when squatting, they will not come off, and here there are places where they are inserted, well, there are knee pads, or some people use them there karimat, it’s elementary, well, it’s an important thing, and we improved our form several times, after receiving feedback from our girls, who are ahead of us, but this form is different from the one that is accepted now for support, the one that is accepted to provide, it is closer to the male standard, nomic, but the form itself is

to be honest, it's more of a symbolic thing, that is, if you directly perform combat tasks, you will most likely buy yourself equipment and tactical clothing, the one that is comfortable, well, it's good because of that, use it... see, well like, the whole uniform is actually tactical, like , yes, and it will be convenient, it will be convenient in the winter, because if you are even in the trenches, it is critical for you to keep warm, and to whom the mini-armors are issued, and the uniform is a crucible, it burns, tears there, anything from it is happening, and the single most important thing that the ministry of defense should have done immediately, and even when they adopted the law that women... wingman positions, is to change the size grid in the orders, because the smallest woman is not equal to the smallest man, that is why girls for a long time received bouchlads from the type of the father's shoulder, graduation, there is like a 46 there, i am very confused about these things , you must understand that i am not a technical performer,

we have a super team, and anna sogorkina, our designer, she developed it, we, that is, there is such a size x, say if our helper will come. even xx, but just the size grid - these are nuances, yes, it does not go in letters, but it goes in numbers from here, but according to army standards, i have big breasts, yes, there, and, and, he has narrow hips, that is, well, they changed uniforms, then she went, sewed something there , and it seems convenient, women do not have such a large choice of clothes, neither tactical, nor simple, some kind of military, so it is now such a universal autumn uniform, it is already winter , already winter even, well, i mean autumn, this november, when it's already cold, for women, i know that you also created a workshop where you can feel the shape, right, also with partners, but no, here it's already on our own, yes,

well, on our own, this is our team, well, actually , well, this is a rather complicated story, i will try to tell it now, i have a very close friend and step-sister of mine, with whom we served together in the hospital, and with whom we called together on february 24 and founded a volunteer company , wound up the car, wound up the start-up capital, left to buy everything in the epicenter, that's how everything turned around. cuba is your girlfriend yulia sidorova, one of the medics who is currently defending, was also a guest with us, so she is familiar to our viewers, yes, and eh, before that, she was still in the women's veteran movement, we once had a program for girls who want their own business, as well as a mentoring program from ukrainian entrepreneurs and an entrepreneur, learned design, presented her

collection as part of her studies at the ukrainian fashion week, and was very inspired, especially by the fact that, well, she was received very warmly, and there eli her noted as young giving hope, a designer, and she bought machines, and then a full-scale operation began, and in may she already mobilized, and here they call and she says, katya, the machines have arrived, that’s why they are there because they don’t know what to do, they don’t take them to tro, they want them so much to help, come on, think of something, i'm already at war , so, well, they came, and you charged these machines to work, we charged these machines to work, they moved their machines to work, and volunteers began to come and so on and so on, and then, there was a competition from the ukrainian veterans fund it is worth a plus for veteran entrepreneurs, and we are in but we initially thought of it as a social entrepreneurship for our organization, that is why

we have such a cluster, we have a workshop, we have a charity fund, and actually there is a public organization, a public organization advocates rights women, is engaged in what is our goal, and the biggest one is women who went through the war, and also men who went through the war, i think i will be understood very much that when you are many years old, i am there for like 10 years already. and health there, sometimes something, friends, that's it it is important for me that our country be as i went to fight for, not as it actually is, yes, with this corruption, debilitation, sometimes, some immature society, but in order for this vision, and for the country for which i want to have, to have it with me, and i will do it with my own hands together with my sisters, with my brothers, and this is the motivation of many military personnel, you cannot afford what a person, in the army, has, although like some non-obvious thing for victory, as if, yes,

it is important to all of us, it is not obvious, but it is important component, this is not what is important, i just came to the opinion that this is a type of foundation so much, look, from human rights that goes, this is also your career growth, your opportunity to realize yourself, your safety, and your dignity , and i, not a little out of order, mentioned about that. in that, if you value safety, if you value human life, yes, you will train the personnel , you will prepare them, you will provide them, you will do everything so that the losses are not in vain, and also, you will engage in education these people, this about realization, yes, it's about dignity, it's about their safety, it won't be bullying, if there is, well, it's impossible to eradicate the human, sometimes. there is a very bad old law, for which we, well, say as much as you like, do not say, but

we understand the situation of the country, yes, it is strategic, that we do not have enough people in the army, and that it is all very a difficult story for us, and a long-term one, so we understand that there are some reforms that we demand, and there are personnel reforms, it is very difficult to do it, but it must be done already, because now yes, well, i have that. to change something, to save us, because the army that we have, well, we have two within the army, the newest one is our people, well, there is no type of better, better ground for... the structure of a professional army, than what it has now, this is a large number of motivated people who understand what they are going for and what they are defending, well, it is like , i am running ahead, this is a good part of the army, but this is what you said, and there is not a good one, yes, this is what i think, talk, just me, only what is on the ground gives me hope, yes,

caring people who are inside the army, they can really change something, they just have to go through the circles of hell, they have to fight... inside with this hydra turporila , yes, to kind of do something, and well, that is, and this is due to the lack of this professional the values ​​of the army, meritocracy, and this is all so interconnected, how people get what they deserve, there is a struggle on the part of such organizations and on the part of the government, that's how we see it, you just have to understand that corruption in the army is savkov, well, there is a maximum what type of apartment is there? it's confusing, yes, that is, it's like how it was in the soviet union, i just remember that everyone rubs something from work, yes, like everything that was bad, there, who worked at the factory, told how he came out with some kind of hanging there is a thing, well, that is, the ministry of defense has the same levels, yes there are political ones, 32, nine years , well, eight years is also not enough, because before that it was

almost 30 years, the consequences of the soviet system, and people left, you are engaged in advocacy, about this a little later, because we did not agree with you about machines that sew, so your shop sews not only the uniform, you recently presented, it seems, how it happened, that is, you were invited to present the collection, but no, unfortunately, yes, i just again, when they spoke, they spoke for the organization, the foundation is what deals with... armies and the shop, which, in fact, supports, we have many types of our life activities, because we have female veterans working in the shop, in the shop we train female veterans as their resoci brand , this is the military brand cubitus day, this is cuba and stas betus, yuliya sidorova stas beetus , they are

both now serving, stas was a cuban teacher, became her partner, huh. this is stanislav - he is one of the authors of this collection, he is currently in the national guard, yes, in azov, and - our brand bayteranka is such civilian clothing, we are still working on the strategy there, but now the military personnel create cool , designer clothes to sell and to earn something for the army, yes, and one more motivation, well, for example, i really want that when cuba returns from the war, so that it has somewhere to return to, well, it continued , continued, yes, so that it does not start life from scratch again , because once you came back from war, well, it's a very, well, tragic story, she just returned from the war, she was in ato for six years, treated for depression, and

like many people who return from the war, and only she started to get better. life really started full-scale right away, and so many people, well, it was just an illusion of a peaceful life, i am sure that she will succeed, because she is a really talented girl, she has a cool collection, which, by the way , they said in france, because i i know there were some tall ones at the presentation, but we weren't invited, we were we asked ourselves, our team went into a ukrainian smoke house in paris, that is. and it was organized there, and the french press was also there, not as many as at paris fashion week, of course, it’s, well, completely different levels, but the hall was really full, and people were crying, and the interesting tales that cuba got out of there

war, pushed into paris, it was super, ugh, and i know that it was already possible to sell something from this collection, that is, the money went, and i know that the brooch began to be sold, here we are actually trapped by the fact that our guys in army, them of course, not to design very often, a lot of work, and yes, and the only thing we did was one of the elements of our costume, cotton, oh, no, not cotton, damn, i forgot how you one of the costumes, one of suits, yes, or a bird, well, in short, the one with ears of corn, yes, we made this ear of corn also as a charity brooch, and we opened a sale and they... they sell just great, we don’t even make any effort just for this, military monks, who were injured, this is one of the directions

of our fund, we are still accumulating money there, because, unfortunately, treatment, medical issues, it is very expensive, but we work for the long term, understanding that it will be necessary and and then, further, further, yes, oh, yes, and part of it is not from the zsu, well, that is, these are the funds that go to support our foundation, ugh, by the way , you still sell very well merch, this is not an advertisement of your products, because you are a charity organization, you also sell it, for me , for example, they are beautiful, it is very beautiful, and we have a t-shirt, and whoever takes it, wins the world, it also sold very well, and this one. of our alaska, print, that is, in us, this another one, and we're waiting for alaska , she's also now on a scholarship

that we partner with the spotlight to give to female veterans, and she's now, she's still in further education, as she was recently injured, she's not working yet, if full-time, but she is already in service, but she has the opportunity to teach a little. we expect that we will have a comic one day, the directions of work, very cool , we would use it for the benefit of everyone , we try, this is our main goal of the organization, it is the support of women like all-round, yes, of course, but we focus on them social realization in the first place, i.e. for their political participation, we want veterans, these girls who go, what a large number of barriers to serve, to fulfill their civic duty to the people, and well, just to that

there were many of them who had some kind of creative profession and now had to go to the army, yes, and what will happen next , well, this is what i was talking about, why we work, it is important for us that all this is not in vain, that all these deaths, yes, which ukraine transferred, its sons and daughters, so that they would not be in vain, that's why that if we leave it here... and the russians, ee fail state there, whatever, it will all be lost. indeed, those who were at the front, there are civilians who fought, who help, who come, join, how did he appear at all, this movement, when you came after the war, whether you did it right or not, everything is very complicated there , in fact civilian women joined us before, it’s very conditional, you know, like on the fringes of the free military - these are military volunteers, from the 14th