five children, how is he not on the list, this is a family, why do they want to separate our family? my children and i can travel, but my husband can't, i have a baby , i can't do it alone in a new country, i don't want to go to my home in ukraine, i don't know where they will send us, i want to go to moldova or romania. this is the freedom of the mornings, and we are watching all of them. at once, in several ukrainian cities, the wives of servicemen are demanding to establish... clear terms of service and to give their husbands the opportunity to rest from the war and go to leave, because they say the army turned out to be serfdom for them. whether this issue will be considered at the state level, whether there is someone to replace the soldiers at the front who need demobilization, we will talk in detail later. the operation of undermining gas pipelines in the northern stream was probably coordinated by a ukrainian officer named shpigel, who is named after roman chervinsky, who allegedly coordinated the team. executors of this detonation,

chervinsky himself denied his involvement in the detonation of the pipeline through his lawyer. we will tell you all the details later in this broadcast. if if you like our content, then subscribe to the radio liberty channel, be sure, give your signs of attention, it's a favorite, put the bell, it's very important that youtube promotes this video, and you don't miss important videos and streams here on the radio liberty channel . the officer of the special operations forces of ukraine, roman chervynskyi, allegedly coordinated the operation, as a result of which two pipelines, northern stream one and northern stream two, intended for the supply of russian gas to europe, were blown up. this was announced by two publications at once. american washington post and german spiegel with reference to their own sources, who are allegedly familiar with chervinsky's role in this operation. six people who allegedly leased the wind under false names. with the help

of diving equipment, explosives were placed on the gas pipelines. the explosion, let me remind you, happened in september of last year. then they damaged three out of four bodies of the gas pipeline. the washington post writes that chervinsky allegedly did not act alone, but carried out the orders of higher-ranking ukrainian officials, who ultimately reported to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces valery zaluzhny. refers to anonymous persons who are allegedly familiar with chervinskyi's tasks. in the same place, chervinsky, through his own lawyer, denied these accusations to spiegel and the washington post, he says that all statements about his involvement in gas pipelines are spread by russian propaganda, without any grounds for this, and the special operations forces have not yet commented on the journalists' statements. i will note that chervinsky himself is currently in sizo, because in april of this year the sbu informed him of the suspicion, he tried to cross, drag him to the side

of the ukrainian forces of the russian pilot and seize the russian plane, but this operation failed, instead, the russian forces received the coordinates of the kanatove airfield, where the plane was supposed to arrive and fired at it , then the commander of the military unit was killed, and 17 soldiers were wounded, roman chervinskyi also rejects these accusations , he says that he agreed his actions with the leadership that approved this operation, his arrest in another high-profile operation of the ukrainian special services, it is about the so-called va... gate, when in the summer of 2020 the sbu and the central intelligence agency lured 33 mercenaries of the private military company wagner from russia to belarus, who at that time managed to fight in donbas, they were supposed to be tried in ukraine, but at the last moment they were exposed, arrested and returned to russia. chervinsky then said that the operation failed because of you regarding wagnergate. meanwhile, another german newspaper. in october of this

year, i wrote that it was russia that was involved in the undermining of the nord stream gas pipelines. journalists of this edition refer to the information of the polish special services, which allegedly informed about it the federal government of germany. in particular, the article said that the poles allegedly recognized part of the crew of the open-air yacht andromeda, which, as previously reported by the german prosecutor's office, was of decisive importance during the actions, had russian citizenship. they did show bulgarian documents, which were obviously forged, the newspaper reports information from the polish border guard who inspected this yacht. the captain of the boat introduced himself as mykhailo popov. polish intelligence allegedly believes that these men are connected to the russian military intelligence however, the federal government of germany is skeptical of such statements , zeit wrote. let me remind you that the north flow and north flow two gas pipelines were blown up. and the us, great britain and the eu claimed that

it was a targeted sabotage. in march of this year, the american newspaper new york times, citing anonymous american officials, wrote that the gas pipelines were blown up by a ukrainian sabotage group, however. there is no evidence of involvement of the ukrainian authorities in this. mykhailo, adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine podolyak then stated that ukraine had nothing to do with the incident. meanwhile, the russian authorities believe that strategy 21 has joined our broadcast in the programs of the center for global studies, i congratulate you. good afternoon, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, what is your version of the washington post editions and, dan spiegerel, does it seem like this version is so common to the two editions. likely, do you trust this view of events? well, you know, i don't even know where to start, here in chronological order or in importance, here's the washington post publication, you do,

emphasize in italics that it was an investigation, well, who is the author of this investigation, first of all, let's start with this, a woman who in 2008-2019 was the best hockey reporter , it sounds like, of course, she is obviously a specialist in hockey, and here in moscow , and later in kyiv, it is obvious that she has knowledge, professional knowledge in the field of underwater mining, from deep-sea works, which so boldly draws conclusions on the basis of anonymous sources, and the funny thing is that if our german partners stubbornly insist on this lady still makes interesting such a turnover, she says that yes

, it is a ukrainian trace, it is clear, but i will tell you more, the state government of ukraine, the administration of the president of ukraine, have nothing to do with this, that's all... white-collar, and the executor, well, who it is possible to choose a performer, they chose chervinsky, who is already sitting, in prison on charges of flying an enemy plane, eh, don’t you think the authorship and the choice of performers for such an action are strange to you, that is, pavle, for you this whole version, as well as the people who worked on these materials, this is all... not credible, yes, but can i ask you, well, in your opinion, anonymous sources, where did they come from, that is, can these anonymous sources be real, which information, western, which really, well, somehow have access to information, this

it's not just that everything appeared out of thin air, but why not out of thin air, let's start from the second, on the other hand, we are the team of the center for global studies strategy 21, with our partners, colleagues, one of them is the head of intelligence, the former naval forces of ukraine, almost immediately after the detonation of the streams, held their own investigation, we have specialists in energy, underwater energy, military specialists, military experts , conducted their own investigation, which testified, according to completely anonymous sources, including our intelligence, that the day before, on the eve of the detonation. of night currents in that area operated a detachment of warships of the baltic fleet, a detachment of deep-sea research, a party

of deep-sea research with specialists of the baltic detachment of the pdsz. technical means, and the appropriate specialists , specially equipped, scuba divers, just like that from some yacht to descend to such a depth, and even more so, they simply cannot lay explosives, they will die there from oxytocin disease. and we presented this information, in sufficient detail, as a popular briefing for the military attachés from our partner countries , the information did not spread to the masses, our partners

decided to choose another dubious, rather dubious option with some yacht, it must be understood that there is no no on the yacht, pressure chambers for working with divers, not suitable descent devices, winches, and cranes for descent, just like that, take some yacht, rent it, put divers here and there. it is impossible to come to the place of gathering there and implement it, you need specialized pale equipment, these are such practical things, trained specialists , and information about real active persons, mykhailo gonchar repeatedly brought to, to our partners, both officially and unofficially, and this information , that the straits were blown up by the russians, then in fact conflicts on... with the russian federation, the germans really do not want this in nato in the european union, especially

the germans, for certain reasons, do not want to blame the former partners in the nord stream-2 project for this, and therefore ukraine was chosen, but ukraine is also not at least german, the german government, german society, therefore. chose such a very convenient version, as for me, it is an accusation, already accused of something, people who seem to have nothing to do with the ukrainian government, and you do not think that two weeks ago, in the russian public, it was spread through the western, mass media, a conflict, a conditional conflict between the industrious and the president zelenskyi and this verse is a new version in quotation marks about

the undercurrents of the northern streams, it completely fits into this stream. i will add that there it is said in the publications that, in the material, it is said that zelensky allegedly did not know about this operation and did not approve of it, but zaluzhnyi himself coordinated it, and the name of chervinskyi is also mentioned, you correctly mentioned that this person is already under, and let 's put it this way, hypothetically, if you imagine, these people... these special services, they could implement such operations without the knowledge of zelenskyi, without the knowledge of the commander-in-chief, or is that all up to you also raises questions, well, of course, chervinsky is the key to everything, he is our chief pilot, chief tanker and chief sailor, a snow climber, practically, of course, this version is not just russian for me, not only in europe, epso is actively working to discredit our special services, our military leadership, with

the aim of weakening ukraine. enemy work continues, ukraine, well, can hardly respond to such accusations. pavle, could there be one last, very short question about the position of the commander of special operations forces viktor horrenko. hardly whether khorrenka was released on this issue before his release, well, this is a normal process , for the military organization, there is a question about how it was formalized, how this process was formalized, and not before, well, personnel transfers, so to formalize like this, well, it is simply not possible, it causes, and there were cases when servicemen were dismissed without the submission of the commander, or, on the contrary, were transferred to a higher position in another body, this causes at least

the irritation of the military, who believe that they do not count for anything in their position, i let me remind you that mr. khurenko was released at the request of rustem umyerov, and this order was signed by volodymyr zelenskyi, and khorrenko himself allegedly and the washington post, pavlo lekichuk, the head of security programs of the strategic global studies center. e 21 was a guest of our broadcast. actions were immediately held in several ukrainian cities in support of the demobilization of the military. we are talking about dnipro, zaporizhzhia, kyiv, poltava, zhytomyr and ternopil. wives of ukrainian servicemen who came to the picket demanded to establish clear terms of mobilization and rotation of fighters, it is a year and a half. we demand, according to the participants of the pickets... the servicemen who are currently at the front, there are those who have been fighting since the first days of a full-scale war and have not

received leave until now, on the posters of the activists, in particular, there were the following inscriptions: we forgot what dad looks like , the time of others has come, the military is also getting tired, why have we gathered, people who have been in a situation for more than a year where they can die on a normal weekend, people leave their positions and are returned there. because someone dies and is not there who goes out, that is, there is no normal rest, people do not morally communicate normally with their families, and because of this, many families, unfortunately, fall apart. he himself volunteered on february 25, 2022, and now, after a serious injury, he again and the commission of the vlk recognized him as fully worthy to sign contracts. the guys who have been fighting there for 2 years are forcing them to sign a contract, they say we will not do this, let

others come. martial law was introduced in ukraine on february 24 last year, since then general mobilization has also been announced in the country. in as of today, there is a registered draft law in the parliament, which should specify the terms of military service upon conscription during mobilization, according to this document , it is proposed that demobilization in one and a half months of this draft law. so far, the petition has been signed by 1,600 people out of the required 25,000. fyodor venislavskyi, the representative of the president of ukraine in the parliament and a people's deputy of ukraine from the specialized committee, joins our broadcast. mr. fedor, i am you. welcome to the air and it looks like this is an extremely hot question for many, we see that the rallies are taking place in different cities of ukraine, do you understand how the people 's deputy of ukraine has been fighting at the front for a year and a half, it will soon be almost two years? well, unfortunately, ukraine is in a state of full-scale war, an unprovoked

war of aggression waged by the russian federation, and we must understand that now this war is largely ... for the preservation of our ukrainian statehood, for the preservation of ukraine as a nation, and and therefore here it is necessary to take into account, let's say, the ratio of those goals and values, we certainly perfectly understand but the invasions are fought in defense of our sovereignty and choose our independence, but it must also be understood that during the full-scale wars, which ukraine is currently waging, including the fact itself, or the very concept of demobilization before the end of the war, history practically does not know, because when there are full-scale wars, people fight until the country is completely free from the aggressor, as far as they are concerned, they have not seen their relatives there, over a year and a half, 600-plus, 620 -plus days of war, well, i want to remind you,

that we, as a parliament, considered this issue last year and passed a law that provided for the possibility of military...' employees, first 10 days last year, then we increased the annual leave to 30 days, this is the main one, plus possible family leave circumstances, that is why i am on vacation, the military goes on leave according to the established order of vacation, and therefore to talk about the fact that someone will not be given a vacation for a year or a year and a half, i recommend contacting our committee, we will very actively respond to such cases and let's figure out why military personnel who have the right to even... do not receive such leave, but there are actually such stories that it is very difficult to get leave when many military personnel are in line, let's say, standing on it, that is, not everywhere so easily to receive, these are indeed the facts that the families of military personnel are also talking about, do you , as people's deputies, have a plan at all in the state, what to do with this, because the further it goes, the more likely

there will be such calls from native military personnel, there must be an understanding for people who have been in the trenches for the past year and a half find and are fighting, what is there, will there be someone to replace them, how should this procedure take place in general, is the state currently thinking about demobilization, demobilization of these people, is there any action plan? well, i served there for a year and a half during hostilities, at the moment it is unlikely to be adopted in the near future, because it is necessary to understand that these are very significant risks for our state in general, and talk about demobilization, unfortunately, only those can politicians who are not quite responsible towards the state and the statehood of ukraine in general, i am forced to state that the issue of remobilization today is gaining such political popularity, such mechanisms are foreseen, that is, scheduled rotations take place, it cannot be said that the same unit is fighting there at the front without respite, they are set aside

for rest, in accordance with those plans that the military leadership has before those rotations? those plans that will be approved, so now i will not and cannot say that we will solve the issue of demobilization, the issue of vacations is under control and to respond to them, we know that yes, some military personnel are not difficult to get these vacations, we respond to it, we consider appeals that come to the committee and to individual members of our committee, so we are ready to work in this regard, but. .. let's say, to fill with hope that we will adopt a law on demobilization and be forced to replace everyone who is fighting with another reserve, well , for today, for example, for those children who go to these protest actions, that at the moment this issue is like this not discussed at this time serve and we will do everything to ensure that vacations are scheduled, but some plan for

the future, well, how many years will it be, there are two years, five years, 10 years, they will also be at the front, are there any steps to that it is possible to increase mobilization, to do more training for newly mobilized military personnel, well, that is, some kind of vision for the future, what will happen in a year? from 250 - 260,000 military personnel of all components of the security and defense sector, which ukraine had as of february 24, 2022, now we have more than 1 million military personnel, directly on the front line, in combat tasks are performed there, well, there is one fourth, one part, and these changes, rotations, they precisely ensure the achievement of the goal you are talking about, but to talk about what is there in a year we will ensure demobilization, an option or an algorithm of actions, well, i can’t, unfortunately, but for example, in the verkhovna rada there is a bill on demobilization, are you considering the bills of your colleagues

there, although from other factions, but not less, i say that it is a great pity, the question demobilization acquires a political color, i think that everyone perfectly understands that the reality of the adoption of a law that provides for the possibility of demobilization of those who were called up, well, it is not very high and the probability is, if you correct me, but the conclusion is that at the moment those ways which are for demobilization under certain circumstances, these are circumstances related to serious health problems of the serviceman himself, or relatives, or when there is only one breadwinner left, something happens, that is, some big problems with his own with one's own health, with the health of relatives, it is basically this, well, the only reason is provided by law, at the moment, the law on military military service contains a clear list of the grounds for which a person can be released from military service. an incapacitated person is registered there by 5-10 guardians who receive the right to be released from military service, this is obviously an abuse and we

are correcting these gaps or these grounds for abuse, but to talk about any hopes that we will now foresee and adopt a law on demobilization, i still time i emphasize that at the moment we cannot, although the office of the president and our committee are working on this issue, we are looking for options on how to provide maximum conditions for recreation, in the current, let's say, difficult conditions of waging a full-scale war, we are considering it , we discuss, the verkhovna rada periodically adopts those laws that increase the opportunities for vacations, at the committee level , we discuss this issue, it cannot be said that we do not discuss it at all, we think about how to solve this issue, therefore that we perfectly understand the close, family members of the military who are at the front and we perfectly understand that there should be some clear temporal configuration of the time when the right to rest in the form of vacation, etc., but it is currently impossible to completely replace people. thank you for joining and sharing your opinion 1 million citizens of ukraine are fighting, more than 1 million. ugh, i

thank you, fedir venislavsky joined our broadcast, people's deputy of ukraine and member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security and defense. thank you for that joined russian troops shelled the dnipro district of kherson. this was reported by the head of the regional military administration . the 34-year-old was hospitalized with injuries and his wife was also hospitalized. as a result of one of the shellings this weekend , the building of the honchar regional library was damaged inside and out. according to local authorities, a fire broke out in the library, and rescuers spent more than an hour and a half putting out the fire. there were no injured or killed as a result of this hit. the ukrainian government noted that the library named after oles honchar, one of the largest information and cultural centers of southern ukraine. the library's book storage is designed to store more.