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[000:00:00;00] there were a lot of questions about the commander of the medical forces, both from volunteers and from the military, regarding medical support , here, in principle, the story is clearly speaking, whether it is through the head and whether he can do it through the head of the meritorious person, this is taking into account the fact that he is, after all, supreme the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, and where there is the authority of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, well, conditionally speaking, can he solve the issue above you... important, through the head, he can, of course, because he is supreme, because he is the president , he even has the authority to change the hard worker, if you want to lead ukraine to victory, of course, you need to consider all sides , but if we are talking about the hard worker, then i believe that it will demoralize the personnel, if, god forbid
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, there are hot heads the president's office will look at the ratings, and not at... what is happening at the front, because the rating -dependent team of the president's office is a disaster for ukraine, well, there is nothing sacred about them, about the fact that it is necessary to prepare for a long journey in the north atlantic alliance talking about that the struggle against the russian occupiers will be difficult and long, and progress will be difficult to achieve, well, actually, what in ukraine, in the last few months, has already been... talked about at the highest political and military level, that is, they already recognize that this war will be very long, in your opinion, what does a long war mean for ukrainians? well, let's be frank , what does it mean for europe, well, if, as soon as we see that the entire western world stopped cooperating with the russians, stopped transporting and selling their oil and so on, then this war
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will end sooner. if greek tankers will continue to go to spain with russian oil and unload it there , it means that the war will last longer, it means that the weapons manufacturers will make money, and we will fight, we have no other option, as for whether russia is so great and powerful, it trade, it is a great power, a total embargo on russian companies and on those companies that provide services to russians to circumvent sanctions. this would cause much faster processes, well, but the world is not ukrainian-centric, which means for us, as i already said, on the shoulders of those who are in the 22nd year broke down, what are we going to do, these abductions of people in the middle of the road, there in the middle of the highway, throwing them out of cars, throwing them into military buses, sending them to the front, this does not solve the problem, well, this is a kidnapping of a person, in fact it looks like it will be too late for this someone will be sent to prison for this reason,
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including tsc employees, and they will be right. that it is not done that way, well, it is simply not done , well, as we know, there are many of these stories, but none the less, which means that the state does not want to demonstrate a different approach for the time being, the new composition but where else can he be recruited for, well, at least for the rotation of units, i’m not saying for demobilization, but for rotation, but politicians continue to engage in politics, they , unfortunately, do not deal with the country’s defense capability, and they are lying in this direction, say whatever please, who still does not know what the military brotherhood is, tell me, please, if people who are not ready to take up arms are initially called up to dig in the second line of the trench and advance to the attack, will they help their to my brothers, they will be, just like that this is how brotherhood, our soldier's, is formed, and this has always happened, in the 14th year, volunteers came, and some of them simply stayed in the units and continued to go into battle with us, that's how it was, that is, this experience
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is needed then...' cohort security forces, well, of course, in order not to go to war, they will carry out any political orders , they will pack their significance, they will do it, carry out commissioned, as they say, criminal proceedings, or they will fabricate, if only not to go to front, and so on our cohort of security forces will grow, state officials, 2,000 state officials , well, they say there are somewhere around 40 or 50,000 of them men, i think that in this situation there are many servicemen who have finished their combat career due to their health, were wounded and so on, they can busy themselves, and here now not only law enforcement officers and so on, transfer from the country to military rails, well, of course, this will be a strong centralization of power, because military rails is a very strong centralization of power, here i can say, that's how it will happen, but well the economy of ukraine, it must work
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, it's all for the victory of the front, i understand that the service sector will not be able to ensure our victory, with the production of coffee, cocktails and so on, but with 50 percent taxes, well, for example. for example, i won’t go into the economy there now, but before the war, an entrepreneur paid 5%, and today he also pays 5% and he hides all this through the media, that he is engaged in the economic front, and how did it change in terms of percentage, how much did you pay before the war and how much you pay today, by no means, this is the same front, what is it economic front, then we also have a cultural front, in restaurants, in taverns and in various shows, well, some... this has nothing to do with the front, so we need to change the fundamental approaches, we have ukraine's mobilization resource, if i don't i'm wrong, more than 6 million, somewhere they said up to 9 million, the russians have 25 million
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, we have nine, okay, a million in the trenches, where there are eight or seven, or six others, well, there are students, okay, let them study, then five, well, where are those 5 million, then go out to people to do your, your... work, and the rest, what the hell what kind of armor, what kind of armor, it's not armor, and we have such armor, listen, we have such armored ones now, believe me, several million, it's not an interesting story for those who today without rotation 24/7, the second a day in the trenches, well, if we don’t change the mobilization approach, what kind of victory do we expect, to hold out for years, well, okay, putin is going to be... the president until the 30th year, that is, zelensky is ready to fight until 2030, well, me it is interesting then, by what forces, on the shoulders of those who broke in the 22nd, and we will finish earlier, that's all,
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therefore, all these things need to be solved in a complex way, we need to land our , let's say, landing forces in western countries in the context of cooperation with the parliaments of other countries, states and somewhere else. well, he won't make it and zelsky won't make it himself, then one wonders how much more stepanchuk earns for himself in good faith, article 364 of the criminal code, abusing power, not letting deputies go on business trips, to un meetings, hovering there and so on, for what reasons, why else no criminal proceedings have been initiated against stepanchuk, they transformed ukraine from a parliamentary-presidential to an office-presidential one. in power took place indigenous. changes in the context of the fight against corruption and so on, okay, since we cannot change those whom we have elected, well, because the martial law and this cannot be done, replacing the army of officials is just what the elected
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positions have appointed, well, that's all. in this way, we can solve the issue of anti-corruption, well, for example, what kind of structure is there, the president's office, i don't know such a structure, in the constitution we have such a structure no, full-time advisers, advisers, contractors. a company of personnel, well, okay, company, well, let's keep half of them, half a platoon. this story is what they are doing there, they are money-collecting guides , then, yes, they are not officials, they are not responsible for anything, but nevertheless, the fair can come out and say, i have instructed the prime minister to find out who you are , what authority do you have to give instructions to the prime minister, the head of the forge is not appropriate, but nevertheless he and i have to... we will fight, that's true, it will be difficult, more of us will die, it's true, corruption is slowing down the decision on aid, this statement was not always made by the president of lithuania, the delay in the decision on giving us planes is causing the fact that my two brothers
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have now caught a kab, well it's a guided aerial bomb, and are now lying in hospitals, physicists, taxi drivers, that's how slow the decision-making regarding airplanes is, i brought this trash to power for nothing, all the trash came in the name of the president, he did not come in the name of yermak, we didn't even know who yermak was, he wasn't even on the electoral campaign lists, you see, but all this trash went to the name of the president, let them be responsible, what the hell my two boys are now in the hospital from being caught by a cabo from the fact that we were delayed with decisions on planes, well if these are related things, and who will be responsible for it, society's demand for justice, self-judgment is a loss for the state, i don't want a loss. thank you, mr. igor, for the inclusion, it was an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, major zsu, igor lapin, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, and also
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vote, at the end of the program we will tally up the voting results, we will be in touch later , people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine, valentyn nalyvai, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. mr. valentyn, today the security service of ukraine handed over suspicion to people's deputy of ukraine oleksandr dubinsky, and the sbu accuses or accuses. dubinsky in that he worked for the main intelligence agency of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, and dubinsky's call sign was, as it were, pinocchio, is it possible that russian agents are present in the highest echelons of the current government of ukraine? in my opinion, it is necessary to separate two cases, one specifically of oleksandr dubinskyi, people's deputy. deputy from the servants of the people faction and the second
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, more serious situation is really a hostile agency in the authorities and in the ukrainian government. let's start with the case of oleksandr dubinsky, the court session has now started in kyiv here at and people's deputy vidsluy narod is suspected, and the sbu and the sbu have put forward, as in the case of a criminal organization, participation in the work of a criminal organization aimed at undermining. the international authority of ukraine and the second is cooperation with the special services of the aggressor, that is, in treason. both articles are very serious, the only thing that is a little surprising is that before the court session, before the official start of the proceedings, even in the court of evidence, so much information appeared in the press, who provided it, declassified it and so on, i think, in including that will now be clarified in court, but as for the serious issue, this is the agent of the enemy
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, the enemy in the authorities, this is actually a huge problem, because we have been in the opposition for 4 years now, but it is clear that the opposition is not it is interesting to the agents of any enemy special service, always the special services in the government and in the authorities, that is why i urged and urge that really during the war, now during the martial law, it is possible and necessary to conduct a serious, one hundred percent, i emphasize one hundred percent counterintelligence checking everyone, and now who should be checked, the people deputies of ukraine, there are not so many of us left, less than 400, all ministers and deputy ministers, starting with the defense and security forces, and on, those who are responsible for the budget and so on, and in addition to government officials, i would also conduct a background check judges, and from the most key courts of ukraine. in addition to the counter-intelligence
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check, i also believe that a lie detector check should be carried out during martial law . how it is done, the relevant agency or the relevant firm, have a license, and so on it is possible and necessary to conclude a contract on outsourcing and check on a lie detector those same people in power or in authorities, and the third, what is already underway, and i fully support it, is an anti-corruption check, because there is always espionage, the state council and hostile activities of the special services is connected with huge money, and make no mistake, if what the officials or civil servants or people's deputies of ukraine have in relation to dubinsky, there were also journalistic investigations regarding the large fleet of vehicles in dubinsky and this phrase "mom loves speed", how he answered the question of where he got so many cars and
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why they were registered to his mother, and it turns out that since 2016, at least, if you believe the investigation materials or the materials of the operational work of the sbu, he, about the success or failure of the security service of ukraine , obviously, we have to talk not only about establishing the fact that we caught dubinsky, who has been a people 's deputy for 5 years, the story that is spread today, especially by the russian mass media , that ukrainian special services, or rather, colonel of the sso, roman chervinsky, who, we remember, testified in the wagner gate case, and then he was put in sizo for luring russian planes to one of the airfields on ukrainian territory, and then a flight arrived at this airfield. so the washington post and der spiegel, a respectable german magazine, write about the fact that the special services of ukraine were preparing
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a special operation to blow up the gas pipeline nord stream two, and well, considering the materials that and the references to the materials published by the washington post and der spiegel , it looks like ukrainian, ukrainian special services are quite strong in carrying out such special operations, why did chervinsky appear there, was he involved in it or not, the publications write that zelensky did not know about it, from his experience and from the knowledge that you have has, as a member of the parliamentary committee on national security. and intelligence, what is happening around this case of northern stream-2, the blowing up of a gas pipeline and the involvement of ukrainian special services in this? i will make the only circle small, i work in the committee on european integration, but twice i actually managed the ukrainian special service, which is called the security service
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of ukraine, so i claim precisely from my experience of the national security of ukraine that there is no security service of ukraine. neither operational nor other opportunities for this kind of sabotage, as happened on the northern stream 2 or not only on the northern stream 2. moreover, the word of security of ukraine mostly works on its territory, that is, protecting the territories of ukraine, including the temporarily occupied territories, therefore balttia, northern streams are far enough and enough. problematic, it's mine personal opinion and my personal professional conclusion, but regarding what is happening in the foreign press around, including the information that western journalists collect from various sources and then present in their materials, i think that this is the normal work of the free world, free journalism,
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and it must be acknowledged that journalists such as bilt and other publications, the washington post, by the way, american, usually work from sources. different, and these sources can prove, it is clear that different information, for me, the first source regarding those or other operations, special operations, especially now during the russian aggression, it is officially the general staff of ukraine, the official security service of ukraine, and so the president of ukraine, because the security service of ukraine reports directly to the president of ukraine, nor to the parliament, nor to the parliamentary committee, nor to any other bodies . directly and directly , i tell you this as a two-time head of the sbu, and moreover, my subordination meant that for serious operations, for the serious use of the forces of the security services, i always received approval from the presidents, i worked with more than one president of ukraine, but about serious operations, the head of the sbu reports
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to the president, about serious results, both positive and negative, he reports to the president of ukraine. roman chervinsky, through his lawyer, denied any involvement in the sabotage of the pipelines and how, in your opinion, can the russians in this situation be one of the sources of information for respectable publications, where, in principle, they could influence the information that then appears in the world media, as much as this one is the practice widespread in the special services of the world? i think so, mr. sergey, you as a professional immediately grasped the main point. yes, journalists could run into, talk to, or listen to agents of the russian federation, or directly impersonators who, for money, will tell any kind of tale to journalists, passing it off as some kind of
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reliable, operational, or intelligence information. my conclusion is the same. i also want to ask you about information that today... is quite widely discussed in social networks and online publications, i don't know how whether or not they are talking on other tv channels about the possible rotation of three commanders in the armed forces of ukraine, the commander of the medical forces of the armed forces of ukraine tetyana ostashchenko, the commander of the operational-strategic group of troops tavriy oleksandr tornavskyi and the commanders of the combined forces of the armed forces of ukraine serhiy naev. sources, including ukrainian pravda, say that ostashchenko had questions. regarding the medical provision from the military and from volunteers, there were a lot of complaints about tarnavskyi, about naev, then here the edition guess... says that they are closest to general zaluzhny, and this may be one of the reasons why they want to change her, do you know
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about possible staff rotations, if they do happen, or are they within that authority , which are in the country , well, that is, there is a minister of defense, he submits a submission to the supreme commander-in-chief, and he can submit these submissions, as far as i understand, and without... coordination with valery zaluzhny, right? yes, now during martial law , why? here's my short answer, i don't see the intrigue, secondly, i'll add why i don't intrigues, because during martial law, all power, yes, we gave it to the supreme commander of ukraine, the president of ukraine, and he can at least change 100% if that is his decision, and we all have to fulfill during martial law, and our servicemen must comply with any orders and instructions. as for personnel decisions, and i understand that we are mostly talking about this now, i still think that this is, you know, the continuation of russian special information
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operations, so there are probably some rumors about they disbanded, now that they asked and did it right, ukraine questioned these rumors, now the other commanders-in-chief , well, my questioning is very short, look where the head of special operations, general naiv, was not so long ago, he worked with western partners, they are preparing, as far as i know, everyone they and the leadership of the general staff until the next ramstein, which will be right, after tomorrow, that is, in fact, there is serious and combat work, and international work of both commanders, and the general staff, and the commander-in-chief, and the supreme commander-in-chief of the president of ukraine, therefore intrigues and such, you know, half-russian information operations, i suggest to all ukrainians to keep calm, as we did at the beginning of the aggression. began to believe in the armed forces and in our
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victory. but, mr. valentin, if the russian information and psychological special operations prevail or defeat us, it means that we are not doing enough to prevail over the pso, not just enough, here i am sergey, i’m sorry, i apologize for interrupting you a little, i in fact , i react emotionally because i am convinced that you, journalists are now needed in the verkhovna rada. long ago will allow you to work with us, to be the first, you know, from the primary sources of information, other authorities should also work professionally with our professional journalists, just as i believe that freedom of speech can and should be restored both on digital and on other youtube channels, give ukrainian journalists more opportunities to cover the true situation, true events, listen more to the press center of the armed forces of ukraine, broadcast and show more truth about the combat work of our defenders, in my opinion, the time of training
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operations. at the very end, a question for you, as a professional, regarding the work of the ukrainian side on international media platforms, earlier in the times of the soviet union there or soviet ukraine we had other broadcasting there or publications that were made for abroad and influenced abroad, and it is clear that at that time, in the soviet union, why did the verkhovna rada of ukraine not initiate the creation of such platforms in order to outplay russia on the international stage and create its own the media field, including submitting truthful information through their platforms, without using time magazine there, because it is not clear what they write to journalists later, or
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