[000:00:00;00] they stated that there was a regrouping of the forces of the russian army, they already asked the center of the national resistance, they say that no regrouping of forces was recorded, and in general they say that it was an attempt to distract the defense forces, and from what to distract and for what, let's say , are these kinds of information thrown in ? it seems to me that this is just a false start, i kind of admit it, i think that this decision can be prepared by the russian command. is now 60 km long from north to south, here we see these settlements, krynyk, then the cossack camps, the sandbank, the floodplain and the attack to the antoniv bridge, in fact, what does this mean, it means that the enemy cannot displace our forces, if he cannot displace, and they would like to do it, it is obvious and they have tried, means yes, but i would not rule out that our forces can

apply some actions further south of the directions where they are now going, i mean landing an amphibious assault, that is, it seems to me that crimea may not be the case yet, but the fact that they will go 20 kilometers deep, i think that is quite a probable scenario, which would give us the opportunity, let's say, to overturn and operate with more equipment, and create a more protective zone for kherson, but here, too, we must understand that there may still be certain risks for us, this does not mean that the enemy completely leaves the left bank of the kherson region, therefore, of course, our forces understand this, i think, as does our command, and are working to push out as deep as possible, to create a suitable springboard for us that is more protected in this area, and most importantly, where the enemy will be to take reinforcements, because they have suffered losses as a result of our actions, they can either transfer

from melitopolz... direction and from there, and it is clear that they do not want to do this, because they are wary of our actions there, our actions are just as certain there, the intensity actually decreased on our side, but they continue, and that's why it's also in principle, let's say, a dilemma for today, it's obvious that they really have certain problems in the defense there, heard, mr. oleksandr, thank you very much for joining broadcast, oleksandr musi. head of the center of military legal research, was in direct contact with us. thank you. the people's deputy was suspected of treason, it is probably about the people's deputy oleksandr dubinsky, his name is not mentioned, but from the photo published by the sbu, it is obvious that it is about him. the sbu and the sbu report that they have collected evidence of his informational and subversive activities for the benefit of russia. according to the investigation,

dubinsky had a call sign. and was part of a criminal organization formed by the main directorate of the russian general staff of the gru. in particular, he actively spread misinformation about ukraine, and as one of the examples they cite his participation in a press conference about the alleged interference of ukrainian high-ranking officials in the us presidential elections in 2019. the sbu charged dubinsky with treason for spreading fakes and discrediting ukraine. according to the security service, dubinsky was a part of... a russian intelligence network, which also included ex-nardeput andriy derkach and former prosecutor kostyantyn kolyk, who are currently hiding abroad. and just now to a political scientist, volodymyr fisenko, joins our broadcast. mr. volodymyr, my greetings, good evening. i congratulate you.

ah, let's start with how many years the investigation into treason can last and...' i understand, it is very difficult to prove such an accusation, well, i think it is not easy, but if there is already such an accusation in the investigation phase, certain there is evidence, most likely, i cannot evaluate it, of course, it will become clear only in court how strong, concrete this evidence is, but i will simply remind you that when the father still has a bad omen, the sad, well-known conference about the conference was already at that time there were many suspicions, and in general about derkacha, his connections with russia, dubinsky, well, let's say, what is his name, what he fought for, that's what he was recruited for, and he, i think, with with whom you behave, with whom you will gather, but i think it is unlikely that he worked directly with the russians, but the fact that he started playing dangerous games with the derkach, well, the consequences

are obvious. how long can the investigation and trial last, listen, in our country it is impossible to predict, i am now looking at cases of treason, it is going faster. lot corruption is worse, for sure it can drag on for many years, especially when the people involved are well-known political or business figures, in this case, well , maybe it will be sooner, although the problem is that the other two people involved, that is, derkacha and kulik , as you said, there are none, yes, and dubinsky can become a kind of scapegoat in this case, so we'll see how it will turn out, but the fact that this is a consequence of his, let's say, too adventurous games with derkach, well that obviously. well, actually, these overly adventurous games are not only with derkach, but also and with ukrainian society, we have been watching for more than a year, but the question is, all this time, while the investigation continues, dubinsky will remain a people's deputy,

what are the chances of depriving him of his mandate? well, yes, there is a problem here, in fact, well, this happens when there is already a verdict, but it can happen earlier, he can himself write a statement that he is asking to be deprived of his powers, or, as it happened, we have repeatedly had such there were precedents, well, they can, but according to the representation of the relevant law enforcement agencies, the deputies can to vote in order to deprive him of the powers of a people's deputy, there were precedents, but there are unconditional nuances here, although, if it is about treason. then the risks for dubinsky are high enough, you mentioned derkach and dubinsky’s flirting with derkach, but actually, if we are talking about one agent network with derkach, especially since the united states called both derkach and dubinsky russian agents back in 2021, why

in your opinion, dubinsky's suspicion appeared only now two years later, but we have many suspicions have appeared only now, for example, about various persons connected with the uoc of the moscow patriarchate, about some other people, well, what can we say about darkach and especially about dubinsky, akiva, today he also received a 14 -year sentence, the sentence yes, i'm telling him that it can happen sooner due to treason, and the same, what kind of characters were these people, but you know, before the start of a full-scale war, they didn't want to possibly cross certain red lines, there were, let's say , fears that it can be perceived as political oppression, we also have many examples of when the answer to some criminal cases began to say no, this is political persecution and so on, so you know

, it's better if it's too late, but for it to happen, now i think there are simply more incentives for the sbu to work on such cases, to investigate them, i assume, by the way, very well mentioned about the united states, that maybe some evidence, i don't know, then or now, the americans handed over to others, in any case, under sanctions, dubinsky together with dorkach, they got caught even then, and from his faction ruled out then, but what about treason, well, it only appeared now, and by the way, it was somewhat unexpected, dubinsky was recently searched, which related, well, to the fact that he was taking relatives, his girlfriend abroad, well, that's a completely different matter, who knows, maybe they were looking for something there in this case as well, and found something, maybe they didn't

want to reveal all the cards in advance, so podubinsky, yes, i think that it's possible, well, theoretically, it could have happened even earlier, but still, as for him, regarding relations with russia, then it was more obvious about derkach, but about derkach there were such suspicions a long time ago , i will say more about derkach and his connections, i think that it would be worthwhile to look more carefully for the connections of derkach and the subsequent branch, because he was in fact, i was a curator and one of those who profited from this industry, which was formally under the control of the state , profited from it, such as derka or some others, so i would have worked in this direction as well, well, i mean the sbu should have worked in this direction. mr.

volodymyr, well, i can't help but ask when the united states announced sanctions against dubinsky, and the people's servant, of which dubinsky was a member, and the president's office did not communicate in any way about this, how it will happen now and how it should happen, what can be announced in power, in your opinion, i don't i agree with you, i already... said that he was expelled from the faction, well, no way, well, they reacted, yes, i will tell you, well, what i heard from some of the servants of the people, well, and even in the open chats from telegram channels were accessed, dubinsky was such a gem for the faction, such a problem, he he simply offended people with his last words, i think that many people in the faction were happy when he was expelled, because they had a lot of problems with him, i think that even now many people were happy about what happened, because the tooth.

on dubinsky, i think that they had dozens of deputies who were servants of the people, because the person was very conflicted, aggressive, but i think that for a certain time the fact that there was a so-called kolomoiskyi group worked in his favor, and well for of getting at least relative unity in the faction so that they there, let's say, they did not create problems, dubinsky was not touched for some time, but just after the sanctions against... dubinsky, well , it was a red line, i think that the americans also demanded a reaction, he was first excluded, and then gradually step by step, they reformatted this group, and now most of the deputies from this former group of kolomoiskyi are very disciplined, they vote normally, without any problems, but what happened to dubinsky, i think that this is an absolutely natural, not yet final final, but i think that what it happened very logically, sir. volodymyr, thank you very much for joining the broadcast. volodymyr fesenko, a political expert,

was in direct contact with us. yaroslav yorchyshyn, people's deputy of ukraine from the voice faction and first deputy chairman of the committee on anti-corruption policy joins our broadcast. yaroslav, good evening. good evening. what do you think of the news that a russian agent could be working in the verkhovna rada, to what extent can it be true, specifically in this case? well, actually. on this is expected for mr. dubinsky, this is not the first suspicion of treason in our convocation, we will also remember mr. derkach, unfortunately, he managed to escape, we will remember mr. boguslaev, he is now under arrest as well, preparing for court hearings regarding the charge of treason, so therefore, the way mr. dubinsky positioned himself, behaved, is a completely logical development of events, and this is not the first criminal case

against them, but i really hope that what is a factual case, namely the investigation of his alleged work in russia in information field, and has moved to the stage of personal indictment, this is a good sign, so our law enforcement agencies and national security agencies have enough facts to prove their position in court. actually, we just spoke with mr. fisenko. than accusations of high treason, and how do you assess, assess the prospects of this accusation, and why exactly now, and after two years after the united states announced dubinsky as an alleged russian agent, these new suspicions appeared, well, i would certainly not i would start now to evaluate which cases go faster, because in criminal cases speed is not important, argumentation is important.

we understand that the indictment of any political person will call for a possible appeal to the european court of human rights, an attempt to show this case as a political one, dubinsky, who in fact is only a member of the state government only thanks to his association with president zelensky, is already starting to position himself almost like a fighter against the authoritarian regime of yermak zelensky, at least that is his rhetoric lately is ongoing, so we as well as i agree with the fact that we should not expect the verdict in the next few months, or even months, and the verdict will actually be challenged both in the appellate instance and in the cassation instance in the supreme court, but i really hope that you and i will witness the transition to court debates, why now, it is difficult to say now, these are not public at the moment, there may be

testimony of people who worked with dubinsky or crossed paths with him, there may be an appropriate level of expertise , his statements, his works, perhaps considering to the fact that he is under investigation in other cases, it was possible to gain access to some private correspondence, which makes it possible to put forward under...' for the defense in this direction, well, even if it is completely logical, so we really hope that in the near future we will have more information and the infamous buprotino agent will be held accountable for creating, creating, endangering, promoting russian narratives and thus actually facilitating russian aggression in relation to, do you know what it's all about, i mean , is it

somehow connected with the verkhovna rada, was it called the same in the verkhovna rada , pozaov, or what is it called, are these some internal schedules of the general directorate of intelligence of the russian federation, do you think, these are the internal schedules of the general directorate of intelligence of the russian federation, mostly they are very gravitating towards soviet, all kinds of nicknames, so, well, if, quite naturally , i don’t know, maybe they just perceived mr. dubinsky, in fact, as such a naive fool who could bury his treasures in... on the field of miracles, so that they would give someone there profit, in fact, it will simply be used in the dark against him and those who are close to him, and i will not undertake to take it in the verkhovna rada , from polite, let's say, pseudo, the most common ones are related to trees, oak and

the like. yaroslav, i want to clarify, in your opinion, we said that dubinsky himself behaved quite aggressively, among his colleagues in the verkhovna rada, and communicated with society in such a rather odious way, in your opinion, if he had the opportunity to leave, and this journalistic investigations also prove why he remained in ukraine, he was sure that he was untouchable , that the case would not reach him, and it is unlikely that he had any serious plans for the future there, and why did he not leave ukraine for good, probably, this is still... a classic story , when popularity begins to make one's head so dizzy that a person thought that it was untouchable in its popularity and that it was unlikely that they would oppose him, the slow

development of this case itself played a role , and we remember how long ago dubinsky was included in the sanctions lists of the united states of the states and only now the ukrainian kumida is beginning to catch up with him, one might say, using this term, ah, so i think that both objective and subjective factors played a role here, but it's positive that he didn't run away, like the dereks too , for some reason remained in ukraine, perhaps counting on someone's guarantee there, but we see that now the guarantees to russian agents do not work, and this cannot help but be happy, yaroslav heard, thank you for joining the broadcast, yaroslav yurchyshek, people's deputy of ukraine from the votes faction, first deputy head of the committee on anti-corruption policy. thank you. don't forget to subscribe to radio liberty's youtube channel, if you haven't already, like this post,

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we already had cases when we had four and five units of equipment were destroyed in one calculation in one light day, the company's ksp reported that there would be an assault, and they began to enter in pairs, pairs of two, at the beginning of a unit of equipment, two bmp tanks, there or just two tanks. these shots were taken by the guys during the terrible offensive of the rashists near make, there are no more, as i assumed, they started shooting at me, well, i don’t know how to say it correctly, everything was in front of my eyes, well, in short, i didn’t understand what i was doing at all , that is, i did everything automatically, i just hear the drones flying, and at this moment we have to go and change the missile , that is, we take off this one, which is enough and put the next one, they drove like new equipment , the next day he destroyed an enemy t-90,

it is noteworthy that he fired from a trophy cornet, i saw him only on the way out that he was shooting, i saw how he was shooting at the boys, and then i saw when he started shooting at me, i guessed the orientation of the barrel exhaust and it turned out that way, it turned out well. i finished it, the guys went a little bit and started changing literally somewhere, well, meters, well, so as not to collect, maybe 20, maybe even a little less the plane arrived, well, we were a little worried, well , because the entire flight, well, that is, all this chaos , but anyway, we put the rocket, well

, it's good, at least it's worth it. fear plays an important role in battles with tanks - the fighters admit that whoever succumbed to it first lost , it happened that. here there are four tanks, and here there are three tanks and infantrymen have left, but these fighters are fighting with ukrainian thighs, or rather with their newer modifications. skiv is our development, the same lean, anti-missile complex, 4 km, it is effective, the range, the range is affected. effective lowering device. technique, although i never actually shot, it somehow