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[000:00:00;00] with mike johnson to put him on camera and show mitch mcconlove to show that the white house is fighting, joseph biden offers this line, he sticks to it, why they relaxed and already gave in to their opponents, i don't know, but there will be more it is more difficult, now for our part, we have made under this package , in principle, we have taken all the steps, by the way, in this package there is money control, there are funds for the office of the inspector general, there are other issues, that is... in ukraine, issues regarding there should be no control of this package. we should of course earlier to show the effectiveness and success of our actions with these funds. now you have to work as hard as you can. it is necessary for the ukrainian diaspora to write letters to the office of mike johnson, to the office of these candidates. that is, now we need a spurt, literally two or three weeks, i just see where it is going, because what we have always said is bicameral, bipartisan
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support, it does not give. this is a priori, it is necessary to fight for it, if all this does not happen , i conclude, there will be no catastrophe, but the military part will be allocated, i have no doubt about it, because it is in the national interests of the usa, most likely, it will be done through the military budget, then the question should be raised, after all, to remain a lendlis, the possibility of a lendlis and to switch to such, after all, undesirable for us, as all our official representatives said, we have lost our understanding of which topics. we lost the tools in the united states, and now, when the cancer has already whistled, we just have to run now , you know, faster than the americans, because we need it, ukraine needs it, and it's good that our representatives in washington now speak on the fax , different shades, which working for the republicans, but you know, it 's always like that, at the last moment, well
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, there's no guarantee, so i really hope that everything will be fine, but it won't exactly come, you have to work as hard as you can. thank you for joining us, valery chala, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine was with us live. the final discussion of the bill on the legalization of medical cannabis in ukraine may take place this week, the head of the parliamentary committee on health care, mykhailo radutsky, said in a telephone interview with an american publication. bloomberg. one of the anonymous legislators said in the newspaper that the law could be approved this month. the exact schedule of parliamentary sessions is not disclosed for security reasons. we will remind you that at the end of june, volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, addressed the verkhovna rada with a call for the legalization of cannabis-based medicines. on july 13, deputies approved the draft law in the first reading. we will discuss this initiative in more detail together with my guests, oleksandra usinova, people's
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deputy, voice faction. co-author of the bill on the legalization of medical cannabis, as well as mykhailo tsembalyuk, a people's deputy who represents the position of the batkivshchyna faction in the verkhovna rada. mr. mykhailo, mrs. mrs. oleksandr, my greetings to you. i wish you a good evening. gentlemen, before we start our conversation, i suggest to all of us and the tv viewers to look, to remind about what medical cannabis is, what its medicinal properties are, and in which countries it is allowed and, in general, what it will provide with its legalization in our country. cannabis hemp is a plant that contains hundreds of different psychotropic cannabinoids, two of which are used medicinally, cannabidiol, which has no narcotic properties, and thc, which has minor intoxicating properties. medical cannabis can be used to relieve the well-being of patients with oenological diseases,
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crohn's disease, epilepsy and others. seizure disorders, depression, ptsd, epilepsy, parkinson's disease, multiple sclerosis and alzheimer's disease. medical marijuana is used in treatment in 56 countries, in particular in norway, germany, great britain, the netherlands , austria, spain, italy, france , portugal, the czech republic, poland, greece, denmark, belgium, israel, the usa and canada. i would like to remind you that oleksandr usinovov, people's deputy from the voice faction, as well as mykhailo tsimbalyuk, people's deputy from the batkivshchyna faction, are in touch with us. ms. oleksandra, since you are the co-author of the bill on the legalization of cannabis, i want to hear your opinion regarding this legislative initiative? well, i can say first of all that this is exactly a government bill, yes, i was the author of the previous bill, i very much support the bill that was voted in the first reading, i am very
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glad that after all... our government and the ministry of health have taken it up. in fact, understanding that medical cannabis is now being used more and more. civilized countries of the world, i would say, in all, almost without exception, the countries of the world, it is very surprising that until now we have, especially considering that our country is currently facing very difficult times, i am not talking about those serious diseases , which were before, you already have them listed in their plot, but we are talking about the fact that we will have a huge number of wounded from the front now , not even wounded, but simply our soldiers will need medical cannabis, i can say that, for example, in the same israel it is three months is mandatory after you graduate, if they find you... dsr , which i think now, not only will be in our soldiers, but also in all ukrainians, and therefore, frankly, it is very surprising that we are up to these they haven't done it in a while, it's not about recreational at all cannabis, so if someone is going to tell you right now that
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someone is going to go and smoke weed, it has nothing to do with weed, we're just unlucky that it's the same plant, the cannabinoid that's used to smoke weed, but actually, you know, if it was valerian, i think this question would have been resolved a long time ago, we are talking about the same effect as partially valerian. ms. oleksandr, thank you, i heard your opinion, mr. mykhailo, your position regarding medical cannabis and its legalization in ukraine? well, i think this is also the position of our team, that medical cannabis should be used for medical purposes in ukraine, and it is very surprising that the ministry of health does not purchase medicines for the seriously ill before this, so this is a question for the government. and the position of the minister, because during the first reading, when we asked him a question, directly, during a meeting with the faction: and when do you think medicines will be made from cannabis in the case of the adoption of the bill, he
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said no earlier than 3-4 years, after i have questions for the government, and what are they so far? our patients will be treated with medicine, i agree with my colleague that it is necessary not only for the military. next. as for the bill, for the sake of justice, put it in perfect condition for the second reading, i carefully read the amendments that were taken into account, in fact, this is what i demanded and some other colleagues, we will divide industrial and medical cannabis, according to industrial, there is still control it is up to the internal affairs bodies, the ministry of internal affairs, er, yes, the government, in particular the ministry of agriculture, will establish a register of all individuals, or rather, persons, who will be engaged in sowing and harvesting, but still the ministry of internal affairs must carry out protection, the same as for laboratory research, there is a clear list of not all laboratories, but state laboratories will
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check the content of narcotic substances, this is also an important truth regarding medical cannabis, so there improvements have also been made, i thank my colleagues who worked in the committee on... making amendments, it is clearly stated there that these are crops in closed ground, this is also important under round-the-clock video surveillance and also under control of law enforcement agencies, the system of the ministry of internal affairs, this is also important, an amendment was made and it was taken into account, which concerns how much a person can have in himself, transporting or, that is, all that is written out according to one prescription, that is , it seems to me that before the second reading it became bigger a balanced document, i think that we will discuss it at the faction meeting and decide how to vote on it. thank you, mr. mykhailo, we heard you. ms. oleksandra, mr. mykhailo mentioned that it will take three or four years for this possibility to fully work in our country
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to use medical cannabis for the purposes for which it is prescribed, and is this transitional period laid down in the draft law, which will take place in these three or four years from the moment of the adoption of the law? in fact, i want to explain what the minister meant, and the problem is that there are only two medicines based on medical cannabis in the world, oh, not in the world, but registered in ukraine, they are more than 1000 dollars, one package costs, so we couldn't afford in most of the world medicine based on medical cannabis, that's what we call it almonds, i.e. biologically active substances, this is something that you can easily buy in our country now, i don’t know how, there is spirulina, valerian, and anything like that, so it would be difficult for us to import and buy medicines that we cannot at the state’s expense buy bads for the population. the second is what the minister had in mind for about four years. 3-4 years - that's until we can start production here in ukraine. and this is very important, and we strongly insisted that we in ukraine be allowed
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to grow and produce medicine based on medical cannabis, because it is a huge, a branch of industry that can bring additional income, because many colleagues from the parliament suggested, let's just allow importation and thus allow it. easy to use, we fought for it to be possible to grow in ukraine under strict supervision, because then these drugs will be many times cheaper, besides, it will be additional income to the budget, so the first years, yes, they will be imported to us too this was allowed in the draft law, raw materials on the basis of which it will be possible to make, while our farmers, while our agrarians, while our pharmacists will sow, while our pharmacists will reap this harvest, while they will register these drugs and while they will be able to safely enter the market, it will take several years, but people will actually be able to import it without hindrance the day after the signing of the president's bill, because now i personally i know mothers whose children have epilepsy, excuse me, like a drug... the guys carry these drugs in their suitcases
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or ask me to bring them or acquaintances, because they are illegal, and it is actually a drug, of course, ms. oleksandra, mr. mykhailo, and i did i understand correctly from your words that your faction is considering the possibility of voting for the legalization of medical cannabis in ukraine? i expressed my personal opinion today, and before the second reading , we will definitely have a meeting of the expert council in the next few days with the participation of all people's deputies, and that's when we will decide, my position, i expressed it , and i am sure that the draft law before the second reading has become completely different, it is more balanced, and what i personally put, as far as the control of law enforcement agencies is concerned, it completed, there are certain nuances, i think we will discuss them, and i will express my position, thank you, mr. mykhailo, according to the data
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of the research center, we have such data, the services of the razumkov center, 37% of surveyed ukrainians are against the legalization of drugs on the basis of cannabis, 35%, instead of. the research was conducted in july of this year, and please tell me, well, we, we, voiced the opinion of ordinary ukrainians. gentlemen, what is the reason for this reaction of people? ms. alexander. it is possible, i will answer this question, yes, first of all, i want to pay attention that when a similar survey was carried out in action, the vast majority of ukrainians supported the legalization of medical cannabis. i understand why the razumkov center gives such figures, because mr. razumkov is probably almost the only opponent of medical cannabis in the verkhovna rada. i want to say that this data is a manipulation that is now used by certain politicians to show the so-called mood on. if you look at what was done, like the same actions, most
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people supported it. second, unfortunately, some of our politicians, including others, speculate a lot on what medical cannabis is, and they tell us that we will have rampant drug addiction, marijuana smoking and tap, and when i explain to them that they have probably never seen in their life what medical cannabis is, that it is pills , that these are oils, that this is something that children take, for example, i don’t know , in the form of drops in the mouth, and not, excuse me, two-year-old children sit and smoke cigarettes, as they tell us now from tv screens, then of course, whatever - what beautiful screens, ms. alexandra, no, i'm just explaining to you how it is now manipulated by these, of course, if people see such stories, if they think, oh my god, they want to force two -year-old children to smoke and whatnot, then of course such people will vote against, but this is purely a manipulation used by some politicians, ugh, thank you , mr. mykhailo, let's summarize this topic already, in relation to the data of the sociological survey conducted by
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the razumkov center? well, first of all, i want to say that after all, the majority is in favor, and this must be taken into account, and indeed, a large number of citizens, as patients, they faced with the high cost of drugs or their absence at all, it is not always possible to overcome something with a ban, here the task of law enforcement agencies is to prevent the uncontrolled and illegal circulation of... any narcotics, and if we talk about the survey, with all due respect to the respected agency, what a survey can be during a war, it is not always objective , representative, and it seems to me that it is still necessary to carry out broader explanatory work here, but i emphasize once again, i agree with my colleague that we have will be to increase the number of those people, in connection with demobilization, who will need not only psychological, physical, but also medical
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treatment and assistance, the state needs to think about how to create conditions in order to make any drugs cheaper, to increase control over the circulation of narcotics, drug-containing substances, and of course, to jointly follow the path and take an example from the best european and experiences of other countries. gentlemen, thank you for joining the broadcast, for expressing your opinion, oleksandra ustinova was with us, a people's deputy from the is voice faction, co-author of the bill on the legalization of medical cannabis, as well as mykhailo symbalyuk, a people's deputy from the batkivshchyna faction. the only news marathon continues, we continue our work. let me remind you that once. with you until 6:00, the first channel of public broadcasting, the sisters-
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in-law approaching victory, and another year in which we do not celebrate, but choose our independence. and one more day when they try to deprive us of the right to be ourselves, and one more fleeting moment of a terrible war that has been going on for centuries, but the whole world is already convinced that our independence should not be trampled, not drowned, not to burn, not to shoot, and the greater our hatred, the stronger our independence, the closer our victory, independence, we prove every day, i don't know if i can, what i have is enough for me, women are not
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paid that much, he is more professional than me, can i change anything, i don't deserve this kind of money, can i get more, and what else? i will be refused, a high position is probably not for me, there are many like me, i will not be able to, of course you can, then we will briefly listen to the main topics of this hour, russian troops shelled the shipping area of ​​kherson and the community. region, what is known about the victims, military aid from the eu, what consequences will the delay in supplies from the allies have for ukraine. training of f-16 pilots in romania, when ukrainian defenders will test the fighters. meanwhile, very
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intensive russian assaults continue, especially in donetsk region, and this is putin's political goal. this was announced by president volodymyr zelensky in his evening address, let's listen. i wish you good health, dear ukrainian men and women. report for this day. ours for the first time soldiers, today the intelligence, the head of the sbu, the minister of defense reported on the selector , the general situation at the front, specific directions, shells, equipment, everything for the front. avdiivka, kupyansk, bakhmud, also southern directions, very intense russian assaults, and especially in donetsk region. we have to understand that putin. once a very cynical and concrete political goal, and he is ready to kill as many of his people as he wants, because he wants to show at least some tactical result in the first half of december, when he plans to announce his elections. russia is already losing under avdovka and soldiers and equipment faster and
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on a larger scale than, in particular, under bakhmut. it is extremely difficult to withstand their onslaught. and every one of our soldiers who holds positions, every one of our soldiers who performs combat tasks, right there deserves our extraordinary gratitude, real heroes, the more russian forces are destroyed now near avdiivka, the worse the general situation will be for the enemy, the general course of this war i want now to especially mention the soldiers of the 53rd and 110th separate mechanized brigades and the ar' of the 55th separate artillery brigade, all of them are fighting precisely in the avdiyiv direction, and these days gave ukraine the best results, thank you soldiers. i will also note the brigades that are fighting in other directions and deserve gratitude. this is the 57th separate motorized infantry brigade, its soldiers
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defend the kupyan direction, very powerfully. thank you. thank you. lyman direction, 68 separate yegerska brigade. well done guys and of course the bahamud direction, the artillerymen of the 26th brigade, the 92nd separate assault brigade and the 30th separate mechanized brigade, i thank you all soldiers, we continue to work with our partners, primarily in the united states, so that support for ukraine remains exactly at the level that is needed now, i am grateful to the partners for their understanding of ukrainian needs, these are the ukrainian delegation in washington, first vice prime minister yulia sveredenko, head of the office andriy yermak, representatives of the ministry of justice and of our teams moving forward, including strengthening sanctions against russia and using frozen russian assets to
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support our nation. important meetings were held, the us secretary of state and his team, national security advisors of the us president and leaders of france, germany, great britain, representatives of american public forces, heads of international financial institutions and development agencies are preparing. next year will be difficult , we are aware of this, but we are doing everything to ensure that ukraine's position remains reliable, and in the coming weeks we plan to work with our european and other partners. a few more things: today i would like to acknowledge the work of our entire team and those who helped to save the citizens of ukraine from the gas sector. it is very.
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a very complex, sensitive, multi-level operation, more than 200 people were saved, we are also preparing the next groups for evacuation, i want to thank everyone, i thank the authorities of egypt and israel, the ukrainian diplomats who are involved and effective, the sky-up company, which helped a lot personally, they also want to thank the rabbi, yonatan markovych, and of course the officers of the gur, who are there on the spot and here in ukraine, performing the relevant tasks. thank you all very very much. ukraine's success in such operations once again demonstrates to the world, how much our state values ​​its citizens, wherever they are and how effective our state institutions are. today i also held a meeting with international experts and government officials regarding preparations. already the second summit of our global important humanitarian initiative grain from ukraine.
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ukraine not only maintains its role as a guarantor of global food security. our sea exports through the new corridor have already reached almost 4 million tons of cargo. but we also remember that we can give more stability to the world by helping those in need with food, in particular in african countries. we are uniting partners around such a humanitarian initiative of ours, news soon , and today, i met with journalists from african countries, a large group, 11 countries of the continent, different parts of africa, leading media people, i thank you for your attention to ukraine and i believe that in the protection from aggression, in the protection of international law, the world majority will always be with ukraine. glory to all who... fight for ukraine, who save human lives, thank you to all who
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help. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, so president volodymyr zelenskyi in the evening in the address, he said that intensive offensive actions of the enemy are continuing on the front line, especially in donbas, but the occupiers are not only attacking our positions, they are also shelling civilians. in the morning, in particular, the shipping area in kherson was attacked, a 54-year-old woman was injured , oleksandr prokudin, the head of the kherson regional military administration, writes in the telegram channel, about the consequences of the shelling of kherson and the kherson region for this day, not only about this, we will talk further with oleksandr telokonnikov , head of the press office kherson regional military administration, mr. oleksandr, good evening, glory to ukraine, glory, good evening. mr. oleksandr, please tell me in detail. about the consequences of the shelling of the shipping area of ​​kherson and what other settlements were
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under enemy fire today? yes, today in kherson in the shipyard district itself, at first we had information about one person who was wounded, then one more was added, they were all taken to the hospital in medium severity, one person was then released, and another. .. a person turned around, as a result of yesterday's shelling, this is when the russians covered it with massive fire in the middle of kherson, and the man turned around, he was wounded in the hip and was hospitalized and a fragment was removed, now he is still in the plane, also under fire, today there was osokolivka, this is boryslav district, where two people were injured, also in good condition. of medium severity were taken to the hospital in boryslav as well, as we have
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this settlement under fire every day, and there is also a person there, and lo... recently they also received a message from novoraisk, there a man decided to leave after working at one of the farming enterprises, there were russian fortifications outside the village and decided to go there to look for something and found grief, came across a mine in the fortifications themselves, and unfortunately, in a serious condition, he was already being transported to ... a traumatic amputation of the leg almost completely severed the leg, and unfortunately, such grief occurred, in total, seven people were injured today as a result of russian aggression. mr. oleksandr, regarding yesterday's shelling of the suburbs of kherson, in what condition the baby who was injured yesterday, together with his mother, so we called
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today, went to the regional kindergarten. the hospital to mrs. holanyak, this is the head doctor, she assured that everything will be fine, they conducted an examination, conducted an mri of the child, there is a bruise of the internal organs, including a concussion, but she is now in a stable condition, under the supervision of doctors, unfortunately, in the mother is not like that, the situation is good, as for the child, one of the mother's legs was amputated, and now the relatives... are asking to take the family to odesa, there for rehabilitation, for additional treatment, yes, mr. oleksandr, regarding yermak's statement, andriy yermak, head of the president's office, i also want to ask you, he said that during a speech at the american non-governmental analytical center hudson institute, he said that the armed forces of ukraine seized a bridgehead on
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the left bank of the dnieper, it is said , that's how i understand kherson oblast, exactly. er, maybe you have more info on this? well, indeed, our courageous soldiers have been constantly working and are working on the left bank, and before that, and this is very happy news, and well, i don’t think we need to say much about it, of course we are going to the left bank, this is our main goal, we are following our brave soldiers, we will go and help all the civilians, that's why we passed here on the right-hand rope, when ours are from there, so the communication is letting us down a little bit, i hope that we will be able to to continue the conversation, mr. oleksandr, what can you say, please, regarding the information that near the occupied skadovsk, the occupiers have deployed a camp of former wagnerites, this is the center of national resistance,
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do you know what is known about this camp? well, regarding this camp, to be honest, i can't tell you any specific data, but we see a movement, of the military, what the communities tell us, that they are slowly rotating, but there is also a simple transfer of some forces to that side, to the side of genniche, zladovsk, we will look at the situation, what they will be doing there, but there is indeed an increase military, and here on the contrary, closer to the river of reduction. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for the information. oleksandr tolokonnikov, head of the press office of the kherson regional military administration, in particular, we talked about the consequences of russian shelling, during this day, seven people were injured as a result enemy attacks, this is only since the beginning of the day in
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the kherson region. putin can resume his plans for victory. in ukraine, said the minister of foreign affairs of lithuania gabrielis lansbergis, we will hear more about the reasons. the situation now looks like putin is preparing to dust off his victory day plans , which he has shelved for a while, but seeing the debate in washington, europe's failure to move forward on military support for ukraine, and the growing pressure on ukrainian forces at the front, i think he can happily join our conversation now we are attaching additional members of the national security and defense committee of the lithuanian parliament. welcome to the marathon broadcast. please tell me, in your opinion, what are the risks of this kind of optimism in putin's labia, due to, well, plans, the renewal of plans to win in

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