[000:00:00;00] weapons as a whole, we can expect some other results, that is, if there is no provision, and we discussed it with you , now we already have armed equipment, we, i think, will solve the issue of replenishment one way or another in terms of personnel, then we can expect significant changes, well, taking into account the objective laws of war and the situation... it doesn't happen, well, thank you, mr. igor, igor romanenko, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, in the 10th year, and the lieutenant general was from we are in touch, well, we are now going on a short break, and then let's talk about what this recruiting should look like, and we'll talk about it,

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some small changes here. happened due to the fact that one of the participants of our broadcast, whom we planned to put on the broadcast, got sick with covid, by the way, take care, be careful, check. your health and take care of it, so olga bandrivska, head of the military department of the lobbyix organization, as well as pavlo dyokin, junior sergeant and head of the recruiting center of the third separate assault brigade, will be with us, we welcome you to our ethers, gentlemen, congratulations, everyone can hear us well, yes, yes. actually, let's start with ms. olga about this signing of recruiting, defense changes, what it should look like, that is , these are announcements, we are looking for such and such a job

, you apply, and then people send their resumes, just like in principle for civilian announcements react about finding a job, or how, exactly, signing a contract with the ministry of defense. means that we have become an official partner and support for the ministry in its area of ​​attracting people to the armed forces. and yes, you are right, this means that our website has posted, already posted about five hundred different vacancies, different specialties, for all branches of the military, for different military units, this means that a person can choose that specialty, that vacancy , which corresponds to his experience qualifications, and to apply for a vacancy as well as for a civilian job.

ugh, those five hundred vacancies, what kind of vacancies are they, please tell me, they are the entire range of military professions, from combatants, moovyki, machine gunners, tankers to anti-t specialists, to people who work in in the field of cyber defense, to project managers, videographers, photographers, graphic designers , whom every brigade also needs now, and whom the entire spectrum needs most, whom our army needs most now, and one of the most popular... vacancies is the bpp operator, because we are going to the digitalization of the armed forces, and drones are increasingly used by our

military at the front, that is, both by employers, that is , by military units and by candidates, one of the most popular job vacancies is the operator of free aerial apparatuses, i... i want to understand one such thing here, 500 vacancies, that's fine, but we just spoke with the retired lieutenant general, igor romanenko, who was the head, was the deputy, by the way, of the general staff, at one time, and so he believes that in this phase of the war, the recruiting system cannot in any way replace mass mobilization, what are your thoughts here, and especially since i understand that the greatest losses are borne by the infantry, stormtroopers of some kind... batalnoy , where actually, probably, i don't know, just compare again the drone operator and a person who storms enemy

positions with small arms, these are slightly different things, mr. pavle, can the recruiting system replace the system of mass mobilization, well , look, in my opinion, anyway. in order to completely replace it, it is somehow difficult for me to imagine, rather, the recruit itself should be, as such , an additional field of pre-term service, and for some improvement in the education of themselves, military personnel and conscripts, nevertheless, your experience is recruiting, because just the third separate assault brigade, it seems, has already shown itself very well in this in these in this i do not know the art of attracting even people to assault squads and again shows very good results of motivated fighters on the battlefield, if i

understand correctly, what is the secret? and here there is no such secret, people simply come to us and understand that we have, let’s say, good... education, recruits, training of personnel at a fairly high level, and provision of the brigade itself, also one of the best, and motivation, this is such a personal link of fighters, and that's all, we sometimes hear stories about the fact that there a man was standing at a bus stop, a civilian car drove up to him, representatives of the tsk came out, in different uniforms, we hear, someone says that in a well-mannered uniform, someone in the hall talks about how they broke their hands, threw them on the floor and so on further, that is. as

in our country it happens in many different ways, but nevertheless, they then get caught, then very quickly go through the commission, and then very quickly end up on the battlefield. mr. pavle, how quickly the person who came to you turned and said what i want to serve you, how long does this training take place before it gets into the field conditions, at the beginning, when a person comes to us for an interview, we talk with him, we look at his peculiarities there, moral and psychological state, physical training, after that , if everything is fine, the person goes directly to the recruit, there he already lives with the recruits themselves , trains, eats, passes the military medical commission, let's say, he is registered for the ranks

of the armed forces of ukraine, after that we send them to general military affairs, i.e. notification with the military service itself, and this, if i'm not mistaken, lasts approximately two months, the training itself takes place, uh, it's a car hundredth, that is, a rifleman, that's where they teach. medicine, handling of weapons, safety techniques with weapons, and in general as a military matter, mpd and the like, after that we already take them directly to us, and there they are already intensively training with our instructors, gaining some experience from the instructors , improve their

physical fitness, their professional skills and their improve, and, that is, if you take it as a whole, it is a minimum of three months of training, after that it gets into the reserve of our company, and further on, as needed, gets into the combat part of our brigade, look, there is such a thing that we have official, unofficial measurements of unemployment in the country, and the official ones claim that our unemployment has fallen, or because not so many people register on the labor exchanges and officially receive this status, the unofficial ones say that unemployment is probably more than 30% now, that is, it at least people who don't have permanent earnings or official employment and possibly avoid it, fearing to be mobilized again, that is, these people are in principle not ready to fight as soon as possible, accordingly, that is a difficult issue, that is, on the one hand, there is a huge reserve of people who do not have

a stable salary, who there could be, who could get good money in the army, on the other hand, it is unlikely that these people would want to go to war so much, that is, do you consider this reserve of unemployed as exactly, a field for recruiting, and how to want these people, somehow dispel their fears, or strengthen them, i don't know, some other considerations, how to encourage them? ms. ol, thank you for the question, mr. andriy, i also wanted to say two words literally to your question about whether recruiting can replace mobilization at this stage of the war, and it seems to me that not only can, but also should, because precisely the difference in recruiting and mobilization approaches is that recruiting gives people the opportunity to volunteer for military service, and motivation is one of the key factors, because you

can train a person, hold two in your hands, give him motivation is much more complicated, look, here is one note, if we need, for example, we have conducted some major offensive operation, and for example, we have, i am now taking numbers from the ceiling, do not be afraid, please, for example, we have a number that we need now 2,000 for the additional staffing of people. recruiting 2,000 per month is realistic, i don't know, trying to mobilize 2,000, well, at least the state has repressive and other methods for this. such repressive methods, and what will happen to those two two hundred thousand people, a week later, after they are forcibly recruited to military operations, we can only guess, because motivation, it

directly affects the effectiveness of a fighter, if he wants to serve in this or that role in this or that unit. and clearly understands, or does not understand, but is ready to accept the risks that this or that position entails, then he is interested in learning, and in development, and in the protection of his country, and in service in this or that team. eh, if we are talking about forced mobilization, about the quality of personnel that are there, let 2000 of them be involved, but what is the effectiveness of those people if they do not have health, no qualifications, no desire, the main thing is that they will desert, run away and disobey the orders of the commanders, so is it necessary to recruit 2000 people in this way, are we doing a good service to foreign military commanders by adding such personnel to them,

this is a good question , i am not sure that the commanders are ready to accept, the quantity, not the quality, it is precisely for these mobilizations that gives a difference in quality, of course it will be longer, i am talking about, there is a case with a set, for example 2000, yes, but instead we and military teams receive much more qualified motivated and effective fighters. i am one more such moment, if i may, what i often hear from many acquaintances is that there are certain ... temptations, in people who in general do not mind going to the army, to the military, but they are worried that they will end up in some random , relatively speaking, commanders, in some random units, because as far as i understand, including from what yuri butusov himself writes, that the survivability of a soldier, relatively speaking, depends very much also

on how competent the commander is immediate, as well as the commander of the commander, and that is, there is also a moment here when you you you just you do not know where you will end up after you are mobilized, or recruiting could also solve this issue, perhaps by arranging, i am now so , i don’t know, i’m probably fantasizing, but some kind of competition system, as it happens, i don’t know, by family doctors, that is, this is a good example when people actually show the quality of a doctor, when they say, i want to see this doctor, and when we see we understand that the number of patients waiting in line for this particular doctor is decreasing in 47 storm troop, 40 there some there in 548 no one wants, well, somehow yes, yes, of course, this is actually one of the features of recruiting, because we specify not only a specific position,

but also a specific unit in which open vacancy, this means that in our time, when ... you can google any unit and find information about the command of this unit, about what videos are there on youtube to watch, how the combat operations of this unit are conducted, then of course it affects the candidate's decision in choosing one or the other unit because if the same a uav operator, or a combat medic, and even an attack aircraft, because this is really one of the most in-demand positions now, then attack aircraft, or shooters, there are at least a dozen brigades open there, and a candidate,

submitting a resume for this or that brigade , he makes a choice, and it is recruiting that gives a person the opportunity to choose, meanwhile, not only a profession , but also specific units in which he serves, and this also means a specific commander in which, in whose command he will serve, because the army - it's a big employer, and here it goes competition is also for personnel, between teams, you can take, for example, the competition of family doctors, or simply the competition of employer brands, because each team has its own brand, has its own internal culture, there are its teams that have earned this or that reputation, and definitely, candidates when choosing, take into account all these factors, what recruiting does, it removes... the unknown factor, it gives people the opportunity to understand and know what awaits them, at least at

the next step, that is, it is not a random selection, who will offer you the mobilization of the tsk, it is not known, you will now go to tsk, the procurement center, and where you will be sent, it is just a mystery, a lottery. we suggest that while at home or currently in military service, you should choose not only the occupation itself, in which, in which you will be able to fully realize your potential and acquired skills, but also a specific place of service, a specific brigade, a specific commander, in whom you will serve, this removes the unknown and fear, pavlokin listened to us with a little smile at the beginning. mr. palo,

your thoughts on this matter, er, well, this let's go, it's probably good after all, some kind of contribution to our general mobilization , when people will understand specifically where they are going, to what position and what they will do, because if we take general mobilization, it is a little difficult with people, so that people do not fully... realize that it is still their duty to protect the state and their home, and yes, if they know where they are going specifically, maybe it will be a little easier, mr. pavle, but please tell me, now in this period in the second year of full-scale invasion, can you somehow compare the queues of those willing to join you, and what was at the beginning of the large-scale invasion, and here it is even difficult to compare, i think, here everyone

sees and realizes, if you take the beginning of the full-scale invasion, what were the queues of people before tk, and what is happening now, but during mobilization, that is, at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, people went motivated, and knowing specifically what they were going to do and why they were going, now , unfortunately, there are fewer such people, but still people come, which is not a little pleasing, mrs. olya, and i don't know how it is during the competition at the university, and some specialties have a huge number of applicants for one place, these are now the 500 vacancies, then the most cvs come for the operator of the uav, as i understand it.

and not only, most of all, the biggest competition specifically for, vacancies, it-specialists, on the one hand, there is a high demand from units and from the commands of various branches of the military for specialists in this field, on the other hand, there is a high demand among candidates, because ukraine is famous for: the number of its developers and their quality, therefore among civilians, and among those who have already been mobilized and wish to transfer to another place of service, we observe the greatest competition in the it specialty, and in second place is the operator. thank you for participating in our broadcast, thank you for explaining everything in such detail, let me remind you that on our broadcast we talked about recruiting in a new way. now, olga bandrivska, the head of the organization, the military department of the x lobby organization, which this organization has now already signed the change defense contract and

will actually post, is already posting vacancies to troops, and also with us was pavlo odyokin, a milk sergeant, head of the recruiting center of the third separate assault brigade. dear friends, stay with us, our marathon continues, there is still another hour ahead, and we have more interesting topics to discuss, the language scandal in the dnipro. and iryna fereon, where would we go without her, we will also talk about that, but everything will be discussed later. laughter, physical activity, sneezing. even during such a small load, urinary incontinence can make itself felt. feminost uro helped me. thanks to natural ingredients, feminost uro will help restore control over urination both day and night. femininity uro - urination. under control, ask at pharmacies, buy with a 10% discount at the antz pharmacy, the kopiyka pharmacy and the shar pharmacy.

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