congratulations, it's 12 o'clock, which means that it 's news time on the tv channel, kateryna shirokpoyases is working in the studio. the russians shelled kherson in the morning. several explosions rang out in the central part of the city. the enemy attacked from the temporarily occupied left bank of the dnieper - reported the head of the city military administration, roman mrochko. the consequences of the attack are still unclear. one person

died, three others were injured. at night, the enemy fired four rockets at the residential areas of the city of selidove in donetsk region. ruined entrance of a two-story building. rescuers recovered the body of a dead woman from under the rubble. probably, there is still at least one person under the ruins - the state emergency service reported. the injured man and woman were taken to the hospital. in addition, shells hit one of the streets. there is local. the resident suffered concussions, she is in the hospital with a hypertensive crisis in a moderate condition, 20 private households, six high-rise buildings, a car and an outbuilding were damaged. rescue operations are still ongoing. a russian mine crippled a man on kharkiv region, in a field near the village of sorokivka. a 42-year-old man was blown up by an enemy explosive device. he was left without a lower limb and is currently in the hospital. children should not

be afraid of constant explosions, 91 more children and 38 adults were evacuated from the right bank of kherson region, they will be settled in yaremche in prykarpattia and in korostyna in zhytomyr region. travel, accommodation and meals are free. also, people receive all state payments provided for by law - said the head of the region oleksandr. kudin, children will be able to resume their studies in schools. let me remind you that forced evacuation of families with minors has been implemented in 23 settlements of the kherson region that are under constant shelling. a drone attacked the tambov powder factory in russia, telegram channels write about it. the drone fell on the territory of the ukotovsk enterprise, a fire broke out in the building of the mass mixing shop. the fire

was extinguished, the roof was damaged, there were no workers at the plant, so no one was injured. an ideologue of the denazification of ukraine was sentenced to prison in absentia. according to the sbu, in 2018, armen gasparian issued his a book that promotes fictional narratives about the failure of the formation of the ukrainian state and called on the leadership. before the military attack on ukraine, it was he who spread the term denezification in russia, and this was the beginning of its use in relation to ukraine. gasperyan was sentenced to 10 years behind bars with confiscation of property. the term of punishment is counted from the moment of his detention. the associate professor of the university corrected missile strikes on kharkiv. the security service detained another russian agent. the associate professor

of kharkiv university recorded the consequences attacks on the defense enterprise of the region, monitored the routes of the armed forces and the locations of warehouses with ammunition. another of his tasks was to monitor the work of foreign volunteer organizations and the political position of university teachers. during the searches , a mobile phone and a computer with evidence of cooperation with the aggressor were seized from the man. he is currently in custody. the swindler took possession of other people's money while pretending to be a volunteer, the swindler promised war victims significant discounts in a chain of hardware stores. according to the kyiv police, she convinced victims, to buy goods through her at a favorable price, in this way she took possession of almost 1 million hryvnias. 15 people lost their money. for the damage she caused to the victims, she faces imprisonment for... up to three

years. the war in ukraine will be one of the key topics at the talks between us president joe biden and the leader of china's scd. the relevant information was confirmed to journalists by the strategic communication coordinator of the us national security council , john kirby. according to him, china could help the united states support kyiv and contribute implementation of president zelenskyi's peace formula. i mentioned that the american and chinese leaders will meet in the united states during the summit of the asia-pacific economic cooperation forum. launched a military operation in the main hospital of the gaza strip, the press service of the israeli army reported, referring to the shifa hospital, which is used as a base by hamas militants. the israeli military launched a raid on a hospital, the idf said, intending to protect

the civilian population, which hamas uses as a human shield in military conditions. it is important that ukrainian defenders have the opportunity to receive medical services for free, because they sacrifice their lives and health for the sake of peace in ukraine. in the regional dental polyclinic, they help treat, replace and remove teeth for every budget, lyubov gerashchenko will tell you more about this opportunity. warning. a free project was launched in kyiv region. dental care for military personnel, this regional polyclinic, located in belaya tserkov, joined it. according to the target care program , the list of services includes surgical, therapeutic and orthopedic care. all those who defend our

country and war veterans fall under the program. the situation that we're really seeing, people are coming in, they're, they need that help, and our doctors are doing everything to... masticatory function, to restore the ability of our military, and to basically restore their health, in that direction . the procedure is quite easy. the patient applies to dentistry, provides a passport, an identification code, as well as a certificate from the corresponding status of either active military or veteran. next, the soldiers are examined by a doctor and begin treatment. according to the results of the inspection , contract, and then the department of social protection of the kova population pays for all services. the first 18 contracts worth 534,000 have already been sent for reimbursement. the doctor prescribes in the patient's service card, the types of necessary work, then

the cost of these works is determined and this is the basis for drawing up an act of dental services provided. all those problems with which we are faced military veterans of the war, this is a long-term course of treatment, it is planned by doctors for a certain period, and after its completion , all the necessary documents are drawn up already then, the head of the orthopedic department volodymyr shares, he has already accepted many patients in uniform, the cases are different, from complex to easier, but believes that any problem can be solved, the main thing is to support the defender. and to be a kind of psychologist for him, there are fewer bullet wounds, and more explosive mine, fragmentation and so on, if they are protected with a bulletproof vest, the ribcage, the head and face are not protected, and therefore there are injuries to the face, the maxillofacial system,

that is why a lot goes with a defect in the dental rows, which we restore today, or remove or insert implants and replace them with ceramic ones, well, and other types of dental prostheses. the military are also satisfied that the state supports them and gives them the opportunity, if not to return the whites. the air alert is spreading across the country, so we're wrapping up, reading the latest news, wrapping up our release and heading to the shelter and i'm asking everyone, where are you now the alarm sounds, also follow our example, do not ignore and find shelter. so, as you can see, yes, the anxiety has spread practically throughout ukraine, all of ukraine is red, friends, let's not ignore it and please take care of ourselves, because we still have a victory

to meet. for today, that's all the news i told you, i'll see you tomorrow, please go to shelters and take care of yourself. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy ordenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health, from now on every weekday the verdict will be released in a two-hour format from 20 to 22. we talk about ukraine, about the world, about the war and our victory, about everything that interests you today, our dear tv viewers, dubinsky on narakh, students against. farion and why 2024 will be a turning point for ukraine, today in the program. the occupiers

intensified their offensive, what is happening on the hottest areas of the front? russia is stockpiling missiles, is the aggressor country preparing massive attacks on the energy sector, and will the second military winter be dark for ukrainians. talks about the split, who is profitable to spread and about the competition between zelenskyi and zaluzhnyi, and whether there really is a conflict, we will talk about this and other things during the next hour with our guests, with people's deputy of ukraine roman kostenko and diplomat pavlo klimkin, therefore, before starting a big conversation with our guests, i suggest watching a video of how students today lviv polytechnic protested against iryna farionova. her dismissal from the teaching position, our goal is simple, to achieve

iryna's appeal, this is very important in order to show the concern of ukrainian students, people, here dialogue here dialogue here dialogue here lviv polytechnic is open to dialogue , you have questions today, we invite you, representatives from your organizations, to dialogue. our position is published on the official website of the university, a commission has now been created, which is studying this issue, the results of the commission will be published on our website.

we will ensure that the parion, iryna dmytrivna , is not a teacher at this university or any other university in ukraine, well, you see, a real student riot, we are talking about it let's talk, continue our next two hours, of course, and in the meantime, friends, i want to remind you that we are working live on the channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube and facebook, either please like our video and also subscribe to our pages on these platforms, in addition you can participate in the vote on youtube, today we ask you this, are you ready for a long war with russia, yes please vote on youtube, as well as our phone lines. on on the screens you now see phone numbers, all

calls to these numbers are free. so, if you are ready for a long war with russia , the phone number is: 0800-21-381, if you are not ready, call 0800-21-382, i will remind you once again that all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will here are the results of this vote. so, we have the first guest on the call, this is roman kostenko, people 's deputy of ukraine, colonel of the security service of ukraine, mr. colonel, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you in our virtual studio. good evening, to each other, mr. colonel, let's start with the topic of iryna faron , which is not surprising, because the riot that was staged by students at the lviv polytechnic today, it concerns, including, iryna faryu's statements about incorrect statements about military personnel and

she immediately got into two scandals related to language issues regarding servicemen who speak russian at the front, to a student who was in crimea, and now after it was made public, after how faron made public the message he sent to iryna, the fsb came to this student, this story... svarion went far beyond the language issue and far beyond the limits of the lviv polytechnic. you, mr. colonel, as a person who has been involved in national security for a long time, how do you perceive the varion story and the fact that the russian media has now begun to pump this story professionally, using this topic and this scandal in general, well, we see that the russians are constantly using the language issue, they don't need to be given another chance at that

to play, yes, we understand that we have our language and to raise the issue once again, and yet... the question, you say correctly, has already gone deeper than just the language, we give the russians the opportunity to play on what they do , on those statements made by our former intelligence officers or, uh, opinion leaders who are there, who speak, including in the mass media, so it is necessary to support , first of all, this is information hygiene, and it is necessary to follow very closely , if you have the opportunity to join the mass media information, if you have the opportunity to formulate an opinion, you must clearly understand what your statements can lead to and how the enemy can play on this during the war, and without any doubt, iryna farion is trying to appeal now to volodymyr zelenskyi

, as to the supreme commander-in-chief, that some military personnel there were very , shall we say, incorrect... she was commented on, in particular, by the deputy commander of the third assault brigade maksym zhororin and the chief of staff of the azov brigade bohdan krotevich, those people to whom she appealed that the azovians, they do not speak their native language, it is very bad , according to your opinion, but in the current situation, during the current war, it is correct to rebuke a non- military person, people who are at the front, who are taking risks. to scold every minute that they speak russian among themselves somewhere in their daily life there, there is no need to knock, we definitely have it, look, language is our weapon, and i myself, too, once spoke most of it there, in russian, when i studied in odessa and there, when in the security service

served, yes, i also made a decision there now, he speaks ukrainian, of course it is necessary ... to try to speak ukrainian, and we understand that in a year we will not make it so that the whole country will speak, i know many people who have been all their lives russian-speaking, and now they basically speak ukrainian , and this must be done, it must be talked about, it must be motivated, given such an opportunity, but definitely, definitely not reprimanded, because someone reprimands the people of azov who are beating... every day there for our country, that they are not patriots, because of the fact that, because of the fact that before that, everything was built that way, that we had two languages, one russian, one ukrainian, i think that it is definitely not necessary to do this, mr. colonel, at night

on november 14, the pechersk district court of kyiv in closed session chose a preventive measure against people's deputy of ukraine oleksandr dubinsky, he was taken into custody for 60 days, he will be in prison until january 12 , 2024, he is accused of treason, that he was an agent of the ministry's main intelligence agency defense of the russian federation, let's listen to what dubinsky said at night, when he was chosen a preventive measure in court, support for the petition, accusations, a preventive measure was chosen for him. detention of 60 virgins for 12.2024. that is, the new year is called vyzizuvam. of course. well, he is most interested in whether there will be tangerines. well , he's trying to joke, but it's not really funny, because in the last two months

, at least two people's deputies of ukraine have been expelled from the verkhovna rada on suspicion of treason, that's not... shufrych and oleksandr dubinsky went to sizo. in your opinion, mr. colonel, in what way can people's deputies and senior officials of the ukrainian government be checked for involvement or non- involvement in working in russia. it can be a lie detector or in some other way, because somehow it looks very strange, when in the 10th year of the war and in the second year of the great war, we have agents of the geru. under the dome of the verkhovna rada, draft laws are passed, laws are passed, and they propose their draft laws, and the state lives on those legislative initiatives that are proposed russian agents, well, the security service must work in the process, it’s not a question of checking the people, well, of course, if you do it, you can do it with a polygraph or

even with consent, although this is not a hundred percent proof, but if the polygraph examiner is normal and quite clearly asks a question, it is possible to understand many questions, i think the question here is the following, that the security service should carry out constant work with and it does this with politicians and public figures and already at the stage, let's say so, the way a person sees comes to power show one or the other information, if there are any reservations, if it is not an electoral issue, but there, for example , the government, then, as a rule, the security service should... provide such information when there is an appointment of ministers or deputies for each of them in order to a correctly made management decision

, therefore, the work here should not take place specifically when a person already comes to power, in the process, yes, certainly, if according to the sbu investigation, dubinsky was recruited in 2016 into the game. of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, he was elected to the verkhovna rada in the 19th year and only in 2023 did the sbu raise suspicions against him, well, obviously, look who we have in the 19th year , bakanov was already in the sbu, right, yes, definitely, right, the lists were already formed then if available, he followed the lists of the servant of the people party , not a pastiche, he was a majoritarian, if i’m not mistaken, and well then it was necessary and necessary to do , if you were sure that there was some information behind him, then it turns out that he came under flags, and now he turned out to be a traitor,

so so the security service did not work well, well, he was not only a majoritarian, he was one of the leaders of the servant of the people party, because he was in charge of the kyiv regional organization of the servant of the people, and we do not say, now the most important question is, yes, what is a person, until there is a trial, we do not accuse anyone there , we don't say traitor, not traitor, there are a lot of questions that may arise in the protest, in the investigation process , we see everything beautifully, there pinocchio, malvina, the court, arrested, now the main thing is the evidence, because, well, we are still legal state, and now the main thing is to wait for which ones there will be evidence, and how the trial will proceed. very directly, well, i already mentioned shufrych and dubinsky, and obviously,

there are still enough russian agents, or agents of the gru or fsb in the ukrainian government, according to you, according to your feelings, just how many of these russian agents in the current government, tens, hundreds, thousands, usually, well, these are the networks that are created in... do they make up the specific weight that allows them to simply sabotage the government during a large-scale war, after during the great war? well, i think that there are definitely not thousands, i think that they definitely exist, it’s just that they are of different levels, there are real agents, there are moles, there are agents of influence at the highest levels, which russia keeps and grew and, let’s say, pushed into our government, who can accept there to be involved in making complex management decisions, there are, as they are called, feelers, how they still remember the soviet past there, uh, who somewhere

remember how good it was for the soviet government there, and try somehow to help the russian federation, they do not carry there of particular harm, but they also provide some certain information, well, the most common problem is the agents of influence, those who , with the help of russian manipulations, with the help of russian money, occupy, medvechuk the same others, occupy state positions there in the supreme council, or there in the president's office or in the government, and then they make certain decisions, economic, military, political, diplomatic, not in favor of our state, but in favor of other countries. mr. colonel. i will ask you as a person who has been working in the security service of ukraine for a long time, that is why there are such moles and representatives of the russian special services in the ukrainian government.

and apparently the special services also know about it, but the fact that they were not, in some way , not distracted from the authorities and stopped, well , is this a violation of public service and service in the security service of ukraine, no, well, if they know, have them, isolate them from the authorities not always , maybe sometimes there is no evidence, sometimes there are some questions, sometimes, maybe everything is much more complicated than you and i think, so of course, at the first appearances, at the time of evidence, these people should be removed from their positions , or they should be monitored around the clock,

all their actions should be subjected to... analysis and this is work, well, look, i don't want to reveal the forms and methods now, as it happens, but the work must be carried out, and if there is one or another evidence, they must not be destroyed, they must not be silenced, they must be shown, concretely and at the very least , counter-intelligence cases must be opened, and then criminal ones based on them. colonel, me too i am interested in one topic that has been actively... circulated in the press for the past few days, it is the possible resignation of three commanders, it is the commander of the medical forces of the armed forces of ukraine, tetyana ostashchenko, the commander of the operational-strategic group of troops tavriy oleksandr ternavskyi and the commander of the united of the armed forces of ukraine serhiy nayev, yesterday the ministry of defense of ukraine officially announced that there are no talks about the resignation of these three generals, and

it is about the fact that someone leaked false information to the press, at the same time, at the same time, according to the way this information appeared yesterday in the media space, because i followed how it all happened, that is , the information clearly came from the higher offices, and that it was yours, a leak of information, or was it after all , a special operation of an enemy state, let's say, it's hard to say, we saw how it all spread, i also tried to understand yesterday, i called the top military-political leadership there, they said that they also did not know anything about it, and that it was someone's specific throw , which is at the level of the ministry of defense and general such issues were not discussed at the headquarters.

therefore, i think that in principle i believe what i was told, and i think that this is an issue that was dispersed by someone in particular, maybe for as an informational and psychological operation, i have no other information yet, which i say again, i i called, asked, they told me that it is such, well, what is not being discussed at the level of the ministry of defense, well, maybe in order to avoid...' such throwing and dissemination of this information, maybe after all, we need to adopt changes to the law , which would predict that the change of commanders including with the approval of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, that is, the minister of defense of ukraine, according to the current legislation, he can submit both appointments and dismissals, but in wartime, well, obviously there must be... a visa of

the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, so that when khurenko was fired, they said that everything was done procedurally correctly, the fact that he was not informed, yes, but it all happened without valery zaluzhnyi, yes, that’s exactly how it is , i think it is necessary to work out the mechanisms directly so that in during the war, the commander-in-chief at least understood what was happening in his, er, in his army, which he leads, and not where today you have one commander, tomorrow some politician wanted, gave you another commander, and you agree, i don't agree, come on, who is responsible for its success on the battlefield, and you can't appoint personnel yourself, another fact of the success of the armed forces of ukraine of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine is