tv [untitled] November 15, 2023 12:30pm-1:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] in wartime, well, obviously, there should also be a visa for the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, because when khurenko was released, they said that everything was done procedurally correctly, the fact that he was not informed, yes, but all this happened without valery zaluzhny, yes , that's right, it is necessary, i think, to work out the mechanisms directly so that in wartime the commander -in-chief at least understands what is happening in his uh, in his army, which he controls, and not like what you have today one commander, tomorrow one of the politicians wanted, gave you another commander and you agree, disagree, come on, you are responsible for, success, on the battlefield, you cannot assign personnel to yourself, one more factor in the success of the armed forces of ukraine, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces
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of ukraine, this is ammunition, the minister of defense of germany, boris pistorius assumes that the european union will not deliver the promised 1 million shells to ukraine by march, let's hear what the german defense minister said. the most important question is whether 1 million shells is a realistic goal, some believe that one should be careful with this, because 1 mlon is not that much and the money is there but the military language has to work , unfortunately they are right, we have done a lot with our framework agreements and will continue to do so, but we are also in dialogue with the industrialists and we are asking them to increase and accelerate the production of their products. as for mr. colonel, the lack of these munitions promised to ukraine by the european union, which is 1 million shells by march, will affect how it will affect the russian-ukrainian
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front, and in this case ukraine will not have to look for and buy these 1 million shells somewhere else or negotiate delivery? i do not think that there are many places in the world , except for those that were promised, where you can find such a quantity of ammunition , as for the soviet samples, there are practically none, in countries that are friendly to us, other countries either do not give us, or they cooperate with of the russian federation, because they have some kind of neutrality, they do not want to quarrel with the wrong ones, with the wrong ones, as far as the western models are concerned, then, in fact, what it can do, it can be said, it can be said about our active actions in our counteroffensive, because we are now and so it is not enough that they will give even less, but i have such information that they can provide less ammunition, then the question
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will no longer be about any active actions. will have to stand in a blind defense and make do with what is available in order to hold positions , well, save at least for any counteroffensive, save, make reserves, which is difficult, if we are honest , to do in the conditions of such a war, in the conditions of the fact that the russian federation has long-range weapons that can cover almost all of our territory, so it is necessary to adopt some solution, i don't know, if it is drowned, it is possible to make some reserves in the neighboring territories or something else. because the heart of blood is always spilled there, when the russians there get into some warehouse with ammunition, and what we have now there is as good as gold. mr. colonel, the lack of this ammunition is evidence that the west did not prepare for such a scale of war, that is, there is a lack of ammunition, they do not have time, but then how can you oppose russia, having a shortage of ammunition, projectiles,
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well, the west has ammunition, but in there is a minimum of them, for example, which they are definitely not for us will give it, because they themselves need the ammunition, we understand that geopolitically the current tensions are such , we see the middle east, we see what is happening in south asia, southeast asia, there is such a stabbing going on there and we understand that everything should be given to ukraine, they will never run out of ammunition, but the production, according to the united states... can produce no more than 3,000 rounds of ammunition per year, and all of europe can produce no more than 3,000 per year at the moment. the russians, they say, and our intelligence wrote in mass media can produce up to 2 million different types of projectiles themselves. we see what kind of discrepancy there is, plus we see that north korea has already started supplying
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ammunition, yes, there are problems with shooting. there are problems with, ballistic tables, but these are projectiles that they can, that they can work with, so of course you need to build up, and we need to build up our own... production, and our partners need to build up, because the next 50 years, i think , the world will deal with how and in the cold war, it means arming again, arming so that there is no war. well, that is, if we take into account the predictions of the americans that in 2027-35 there is a possible war, and a war, or a military conflict between the united states of america, or with china or with russia, this means that we will be in another arms race, that is, yes as during the soviet union, when the soviet union and the united states of america were stockpiling these weapons, and i understand that russia is now winning at the expense of these stocks, which were made even during
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the soviet union, because as evidenced by these satellite images, starting there from moscow, all the way to the urals, there are warehouses and equipment, well, what quality is that a question. but the fact is that russia is leaving now at the expense of these stocks that were under the soviet union, or is it true, at the expense of the quantity, at the expense of the quantity, they also have a hunger for projectiles, i understand that north korea, in we have a slightly different projectile hunger, they have a projectile voice, we understand that they may have a projectile hunger on the front line, due to the fact that we are somewhere in the logistics force, but in general strategically, russia still has large reserves, but what are we talking about, if for a war with ukraine, it has large reserves, there is something to oppose, but russia is not opposing its strength to ukraine, ukraine, in ukraine it wanted to show how strong it is,
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and in order to remain a global player there, a regional leader , in addition to fighting with us, it also needs to have large reserves in case nato, yes we are miterizing there, attacks them, they must have... nz missiles , with which they can strike there, they have, they have to have artillery, tanks to solve conflicts there, in other parts of the world, because the country can be considered either a regional leader or a world leader, when it can intervene in other states, including by military means, and the russians are now spending all their resources on us, we grind it here, burn it, and they try to stay afloat at the expense of production... at the expense of attracting resources from the same north korea, so that they have some kind of reserve, they understand that their partners also see how they cut out, nato as our president said, it has not arrived yet, they are simply handing over weapons to us, but
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at the same time there are old ones, the same tanks, leopards a1, and they themselves remain on the floor, in fact not spending large reserves of weapons, mr. colonel, andriy yermak while in the united states of the united states of america, said that 2024 will be a decisive year for ukraine and for ukraine's war with russia, what do you think should happen in the 24th year to be decisive and turning point for ukraine, i have already heard about the 22nd decision about 23, now we have the beginning of 24, i i would not like to comment on this, we must do everything in order to destroy more of the enemy, we need the fourth decisive step, we need the authorities to do everything, so that we are fully equipped with weapons, so that by this 24th year, we have our own missiles
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that fly 1,000 km, but we cannot do 300, what we used to fly , our defense cannot do, so that we can make our own explosives , so that we can make our own ammunition, so that we can make our own equipment, that is , a lot needs to be done if we are talking about the military path we say, of course, if he knows something about the diplomatic way, about some negotiations, it is possible, but if it is about the military way, then a lot needs to be done, which has not been done so far. thank you, mr. colonel, for your participation in the program, it was roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, colonel of the security service of ukraine, friends, we are working live on espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are now watch us live on youtube and facebook, please like it this video, do not be stingy, in order for this video to be promoted in the trends of youtube and facebook , and vote in our poll, today we are asking you about this, are you ready for a long war with russia, why are we
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of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-19, pavlo klimkin, mr. pavle, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air, again and again, and everyone, mr. pavle, we are asking how long the war of our tv viewers will last, whether they are ready, or rather for a long war with russia, a message appeared today: with reference to the head of the office of the president of ukraine andriy yermak, who is with the delegation of ukraine in washington, and he says that 2014 will be a decisive year during the war with russia federation, a turning point in the war is approaching, said yermak and called on the united states of america to strengthen sanctions against the russian federation and increase military aid to kyiv, in particular to strengthen the pppo, excuse me, i ask you, as
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the former... head of ukrainian diplomacy, here at the head of the president's office has the authority to speak to the excluded states and speak, well, on such a platform as yours in washington and speak there, well, it will be a turning point, decisive, and can the president delegate the authority to manage foreign policy to the head of his office? and the president is in charge of defense, sir, please excuse me, the sound is very bad, we will redial you now, please give me a second, so we are waiting for pavel klimkin to be redialed, in the meantime, i will say that we are working live and also in ours, on ours...
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0800-21382 call, all calls are free for you to these numbers. so, please tell me, do we have a connection with mr. pavel? we are establishing contact with pavel klimkin, well, actually, we have already started a conversation with the former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine about who and how makes political statements in ukraine's foreign policy. why about i asked this because the delegation, the ukrainian delegation went to washington, had meetings with high-ranking american officials , and the delegation was headed by yulia svoredenko, this is the deputy prime minister of ukraine, in charge of the economy, she takes care of economic issues, but the delegation went and andriy yermak, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, and here, andriy yermak, while already in washington, began to speak
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on behalf of the state that in kyiv , the 24th year is considered decisive, during the war, to quote yermak, a turning point is approaching in war, according to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine is now advancing, in the south of ukraine, ukrainian troops have already established themselves on the left bank of the dnieper, which until recently was completely controlled by russian forces, and this is what yermak concludes. the 24th year will be decisive during the war unleashed by the russian federation against ukraine. well, it is clear that such statements came from andrii's mouth. yermak, they obviously aimed to convince his american interlocutors that the ukrainian troops and the ukrainian leadership ready to make a breakthrough in the 24th year and turn the tide of the war on
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the russian-ukrainian front, although this turning point already took place in the 22nd year, we saw how the armed forces of ukraine consolidated their successes. now the question is to drive the russians away from our border and generally from our territory, that is why the 24th year has been determined as the year of the turning point, whether it will be so or not, it is so, the question is rhetorical enough, because the answer, of course, everything will be answered on the battlefield, at least european diplomats, leaders of european states. talking about that this war will be long, they are preparing for a long marathon, because they understand that russia has great resource potential, russia continues to sell energy resources to the world market. last week, the european parliament adopted
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a resolution in which it was noted that seven countries continue to help russia circumvent sanctions and sell russian oil to circumvent sanctions. russian gas, and this is the biggest problem and the biggest challenge for the world, because for some, the war in ukraine is a war of the civilized world against the autocratic systems, for some, the war with russia is money, india, the united arab emirates, turkey, these countries help russia circumvent sanctions, i am told that we have pavlo klimkin on the phone again. mr. pavle, you can hear us, yes, mr. sergey, yes, unfortunately, skype does not like you and me today, we will talk on the phone, but still, i am glad that we can hear each other, mr. pavle, let's return to the question about yermak, about foreign policy, about the delegation of powers
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by the president of ukraine, his powers, regarding of foreign policy in the state, i believe that the president, who... is responsible for foreign and defense policy, in general and especially during war, has responsibility and can transfer it to whomever he deems necessary at the moment, it is his competence, it is given to him, he can determine those who better solve certain tasks. and i really don't see a problem , given that mr. yermak is building and, as i understand it, maintaining a relationship with biden's national security adviser, mr.
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sullivan, uh, that's actually been determined, as far as i understand, also in the dialogue with the americans , namely salevan, to a large extent unites in his hands, the coordination of the ukrainian issue in the white house, that is, from the point of view of how the powers, responsibilities, ultimately responsibility are determined with the president and the supreme to the commander-in-chief, he himself determines to whom and at what moment to delegate it, so i do not see any fundamental problems in this, by the way, jake sullivan said that in the white house they are talking about the need for urgent adoption of a massive package of military aid to ukraine, i quote us national security adviser sullivan, he said: "each week our ability to fully fund what we think is
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necessary is getting harder and harder." that is, i understand that the trip of the ukrainian delegation... is aimed first of all at convincing senators and congressmen, because the decision to provide military aid to ukraine is quite important, do i understand correctly that the ukrainian delegation can do this influence, and is it successful, do you think, i would use a different verb mr. serhiu, i would say, it should be influenced, not only of course by this delegation, but it is very important to talk with the white house now, what will be our strategy depending on options, we do not know how the situation will develop in the congress and in the senate, well in the senate it is more predictable, we also see that now
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the republicans are working together with at least part of the democrats on a new plan to avoid the termination of funding of government structures in the states, the so-called shutdown, in they have a very clear deadline and it is steadily approaching... and it is november 17, so far the decision is that the aid to both us and israel, i emphasize, this story is not only about us, will be put to a vote after how is congress going to vote on a plan to avoid a shutdown, by the way, we have here with the israelis and those who represent, let's call it the jewish lobby, although it's not exactly politically correct, there are common
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issues, and we're not really competing here, but we have to coordinate our efforts, but nevertheless, we perfectly understand what is beginning the election campaign in the states, it will be non-trivial, it will be tough, it will be polarized, and probably ... more polarized even than the last one, many will try to play the card, and let's keep as much money as possible in the united states, and america above all, and we know that it's not just trump, so what jake sullivan is saying, it sounds unpleasant to us, but we have to calculate all the scenarios and all the options, and i think that mr. yarmak's trip is also about that, mr. pavle , i recall
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the previous visit of zelski to the united states of the united states of america and to the un general assembly, and then he met with joseph biden, then ihor kolomoisky , who had, have claims in the united states of america, because of money laundering, got to sizo, now, during the visit of another yermak to the states of america to oleksandr dubinsky got caught, who in 2020 together with andriy derkach released recordings, well , the authenticity of these recordings has not been proven, but where are the two presidents, or rather, the president of ukraine and the then candidate for the presidency of the united states states of america, joseph biden, discussed the case of burisma so-called, where, in which it appears.
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the son of the current president of the united states, america hunter, and is it a coincidence that kolomoisky and dubinsky, to whom the united states of america has claims, and who are on the sanctions lists, americans, got to sizo exactly at the time when the ukrainians went to the americans to agree on something, is it such a common practice, or is it just a coincidence, your hint, mr. sergey, well, there is a well-known, political joke that in politics does not happen by chance, but i would also not exaggerate the significance of this for ukrainian-american relations and american priorities. ukraine is a priority for the americans, they have not only value orientations here , but also a fundamental interest that the eastern european flank was under control, was
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reliably protected, and that there were reliable american allies on this flank, and this is about trust, of course, it is about trust in our system, how it works, it's about the effectiveness of this system and about what we have to become success story, both in the states and in europe, but especially in the states, you know them mentally. success stories are very important, so there are of course stories about individual personalities that you mentioned, but nevertheless, for american relations, who see this world, well, with such, as sometimes they say, americans joke from the height of a satellite, all these things, of course , they are such irritants, but american policy and american strategy in relation to us, in relation
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to europe, in relation to russia, individual personalities, of course. is not determined, and when i sometimes hear there, or they ask me, if i read something there about the fundamental influence of individuals on ukrainian-american relations, well, it actually sounds a bit bad, and you understand it perfectly, well, that is, some of the keys from sizo kolomoiskyi and dubinskyi are not enough for the americans to be friendly to us and plan some kind of strategy or perspective, right? no, of course, well, the american strategy is a global story, and this will not change the fundamental attitude of the americans, they see the world, see the globe, as sometimes
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they are also joking, that is, of course, it is not about personalities, mr. pavle, stoltenberg, the secretary general... nato says that - in the alliance, they do not see putin's desire to negotiate a solution acceptable to ukraine, well, it means, are you included in the some negotiation process, let's listen to what stoltenberg said. only ukraine should decide what conditions are acceptable for negotiations, and even more so, what conditions are acceptable for concluding any agreements. is to support ukraine in its struggle, because it is in our interests to show that we are standing guard over the rule of law and that we are helping ukraine to repel the aggressor in this war. so far we don't see any real will on the part of president putin to negotiate a solution acceptable to ukraine, so the only way to get there is to convince president
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putin that they won't win on the battlefield, and the only way to get there. of this, to strengthen the military potential of ukraine, to provide it with support. so, if you want to reach a solution through negotiation, that's the way to go continue to support ukraine. mr. pavle, is it possible, under the current conditions and with the support that ukraine receives, to defeat russia on the battlefield? of course, but for this. and we, and especially our western friends and allies, have to raise the stakes because we need better, better weapons, we need more of them, we know what we need, we know it's not only political solutions, but also technical
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support and the need for training, we have all already learned what is needed and how it is needed in order for american f-16 aircraft to be worked, we remember everything about tank history, and i completely agree with yents , in order to win, you need to take risks, you need to raise the stakes, and not calculate the risks of escalation, of course, this is also a correct story, and everyone has their own strategy. culture, our strategic culture is different from american , or for example, german or there, french, but nevertheless, hans says things that are completely understandable to us, and when someone there, even from our partners, starts talking about different options for negotiations, the question is , a
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does putin want to negotiate with us? putin, in my opinion, wants ukraine to cease to exist, as you do, either militarily, or due to internal destabilization, or due to exhaustion, or due to a combination of all the tyrants, but for us to cease to exist as such, because he believes that ukrainians are some kind of sick people, or wrong russians, and we belong to the sphere of russian peace, their influence is no different, and the entire ideology of the russian regime will then collapse, if there is ukraine, and ukraine is a success story, i believe that russia can go to another country, when it recognizes that ukraine itself is ukraine, and not russia or anti-russia, that ukrainians are ukrainians, and not wrong russians, that
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