[000:00:00;00] verification must be carried out in a mandatory manner for all civil servants who are appointed to one or another position, with access to state secrets, so i think that i fully agree that this is precisely the moment of determination, it is one of the elements of the possibility of putting pressure on a person who holds this or that position, by the way, this is not the first scandal of this level, we already had people in the security service and in the foreign intelligence service who had access, well, there was a suspicion that they had someone from close relatives, has such documents, that's why one of the factors that should certainly be opposed is the appointment to the post , you mentioned officials, or at least employees, of the security service of ukraine, high-ranking officials, there was information about the former general

of the sbu, naumov, who fled ukraine at the beginning of the war , it happened on the night of february 24, he was leaving ukraine in several bags, took out a lot of valuables, money, er, cash, and now he was detained already in the balkans in serbia, with - six hundred thousand dollars in the car, because he was driving somewhere to buy a yacht or something else. in ukraine, the authorities called naumov a traitor, although he was one of the heads of the security service of ukraine and it was said that he leaked a lot of information to the russians, including about the chernobyl nuclear power plant, well, the zone of the chernobyl nuclear power plant, where the russians entered from belarus, information appeared about , that the serbian court refused to extradite andrii naumov to ukraine and

sent him to prison for a year for money laundering. money and now he has an appeal against this court verdict, but it is absolutely clear that he will probably not get to ukraine, because he has his own arguments that he is here somewhere they are persecuting him, that he cannot return here, have you worked in the security service of ukraine for a long time, have you come across similar stories, and how can it be that a high-ranking official of this level, because he was in charge of the internal affairs. as far as i understand the security services of ukraine and i would have to control internally, the security services of ukraine, the situation when such high-ranking officials get caught, they are accused of having worked for the russian federation, naomov is such an interesting case, first of all, he is a person who had nothing to do with the security service, to

it is clear that before his appearance there in the structure , under him personally, the usual management of internal security was expanded to the main management, under him personally , internal documentation was changed there, and permission was obtained to carry out specific measures at the border. he actually took control of the activities carried out by the operatives of the security service at the state border through internal security and actually managed some processes manually. in general, his stay, his actions, his e, destructive actions, first of all, in the security service of ukraine, they dealt a significant, significant blow to the employees who came into his field of vision, he

prevented the appointment, did not allow... the transfer and so on and so on, well, this is a separate topic that needs to be analyzed, and the question, the question is really, extremely serious, i am once again talking about the so-called political appointments in the security service, not only in the security service, but also in other bodies, when people are unprofessional, who do not have the appropriate education, do not have the appropriate training and verification, get into such, respectable positions and more influence the policy of this structure. unfortunately, we lost the opportunity to get this person to ukraine in the near future. if we do, in absentia, he will be convicted on such a powerful charge, maybe, maybe, then during that period it will be possible to

ask serbia about his extradition. the fact that he will not leave serbia in the next couple of years and will be hiding there is already clear. mr. general, i want to ask you about one more case, because today... the security service of ukraine opened a criminal case regarding iryna farion and regarding the appointment of a number of expert examinations regarding the former people's deputy, who spoke categorically about the russian-speaking servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine and said that she could not call them ukrainians, today the sbu, based on these facts, based on four facts... this is a long the story of the discussions and what ms. farion said opened criminal charges and now her question is whether

or not ms. farion will be found guilty, i just wanted to ask you what farion is saying and how she is saying how she it all articulates, uh, why it somehow coincides in a strange way with... what russia is constantly trying to do on the territory of ukraine, that is, the manner and uh, the aggressiveness that farion presents, his thoughts, they provoke people to discussions, quarrels, on the fact that someone should not perceive someone, ukrainian speakers from russian speakers and vice versa, well, you know, i have such a strange feeling. i have already communicated with people who are close and know her well many times, and i have asked the same questions to their face, and i have not received an answer, so what do you know, a person who supposedly

says the right things in theory, but emphasizes them incorrectly and brings them to society in an untimely manner, is really more like a provocateur. and well, you need to understand what you do, how you do it, how it should be, you can, you can prove exactly that, but calmly, without scandals, i always had the opinion that forion, she is more, i do not really believe in her work there to some russian special services, this is a person who cannot do without pr, you know, if no one talks about her, it is so, you know, energetically bad for her, so i think, rather everything that it has more to do with her. such a personal intention to be constantly in the field of view, and what she says, well, listen , well, everyone, all ukrainian-speakers, in the vast majority, understand the problem of the ukrainian

language, faced discrimination from other russian-speaking citizens, in relation to you, well, in one or another period of life, but let's really think about what is happening now, how people give their lives and whether it is worth focusing on these and such questions, well , i think that it is still more personally provocative and emotional speeches, although i say that a check is needed, even if there is no criminal sentence, then at the very least, at least some preventive work should be carried out with this person, information just appeared that iryna farion was dismissed from the position of professor of the department ukrainian language, lviv polytechnic, from november 16, 2023, yesterday students who study at

lviv polytechnic protested against farion, against farion being a teacher at lviv polytechnic, here is the first part, actually there are already stories, the second part. now the security service of ukraine is checking whether there were signs of crimes in the statements of iryna farion, but well, you are right, mr. general, that during the war such discussions, aggressive discussions should not be held, because it threatens national security and, in the end, sway society, it is also dangerous, on this, i want, i want to add that, you know, it is also not necessary to make a hero out of it, because now a part of society will start to defend it, well, motivating by the fact that the defender of the ukrainian

language, here he is being repressed , are released from work, punishment for punishment, and we get another hero who, well, is not needed at all in the way we have it now, so yes, the situation is really difficult, and i think that after all, society will figure it out and put all dots above her, mr. gen. thank you for the conversation, it was general of the security service of ukraine in reserve viktor yagun, former deputy head of the security service of ukraine. friends, we are working live on telekanaluso. also on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube, don't be shy, please like this video and subscribe to our page on youtube and facebook, in addition, you can take part in our vote, today we ask you about whether ukraine needs a single telethon, everything is quite simple on youtube, there are two options, yes, no, or your option, please write in the comments under this video

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xijin pinen of china has arrived in the united states of america, this is the first time since in 2017, he came to the asia-pacific economic cooperation summit, it is clear that the main events are yet to come, meaning the meeting between xijing ping and joe biden, but before actually meeting with the chinese leader, biden said that china has... . real problems, and he said that all - this is another example of how american leadership in the world is being restored, well, that is, biden on human rights, who, who is a leader, or a leader, forgive a leading country, accepts, sizzinpinia, ot please tell me, mr. oleksandr, what should we expect from this meeting and

whether there will be a place for ukraine at all in this great dialogue , which is being started by the two leaders of the two largest countries in the world, who, as xi jinping said, are responsible for the future of humanity, well , it is clear that the key the issues that they will discuss will relate to these two countries and the complex and rather transitory relations that have developed over the past few years. on the positive side, well, on the positive side , it is the fact that china is really dealing with major internal problems right now, this is the the unprecedented gdp growth that we've seen for several decades, well over 10% per year, it's actually ended this period, now, let's say, international agencies give china about 3.9, 4.5%, gdp, at least for

the next few years, there is a crazy problem, these are the debts of cities and, therefore, provinces in china, about 15 dollars, and a large number of these debts, they are extremely problematic, of course, that there is a process of decoupling, that is , the separation of western or developed countries, their dependence on china, chinese manufacturing capabilities and actually the outflow of the western capital from china, most of which goes either to the united states or to other centers of development, and of course one cannot help but be worried, it can lead to internal instability, and we saw the first such signs during covid and how people went out into the streets despite, in fact, the total control of the communist party over the media, in general over the economy, so there are big problems

, and let's hope that these internal problems will push the people to more peaceful rhetoric and actions, and the departure of the departure from what we have observed for at least the last year and a half, when in the south china sea , the chinese military behaved quite aggressively towards filipino fishermen, well, they are actually militarizing the south china sea, and nuclear capabilities, well, there are actually 60, it seems that the warhead for in the last year, one and a half, they have built up, let's say, in the seym arsenal, and we all remember what xi jinping said to putin, that they are on the threshold of big changes that happen once every 100 years, that is, they mean taking over the leadership in the united states, and china should take the lead, that is, all these things, they are quite a complex set of problems, and the most important thing is that this dialogue

is taking place, this is the first thing, and secondly, the chinese have agreed to resume the dialogue between the military, it stopped last year. in august, when the speaker of the house of representatives, at that time, a democrat, visited taiwan, and after that the chinese actually cut off any dialogue, that is, the most important thing is what will be discussed, that is, how to balance relations and put them in some management system, lest, god forbid, there should be any misunderstandings that would lead to a clash between the chinese and the americans, but yes... they will also talk about the middle east, israel, and ukraine, of course, that these the problem will be less, let's say, attention is paid, but for sure joseph biden will call on china to take a more active position towards ukraine in the sense that it is necessary to support ukraine, since our interests are the interests of the international, international

community, we do not demand anything more than what is laid down in the un charter, the final act of the security council, as well as other international documents , and if china, which had a certain profit from the system that is based on rules, it would be better not to destroy this system and not to set up against itself more more of a western country, so ukraine will be discussed, but briefly, the most important thing is to restore dialogue and try to somehow manage these relations so that they do not deteriorate at all. well, of course, ukrainians are not only worried about the results of the negotiations. and joseph biden, and that how the americans are going to quickly renew the approval of additional funding for ukraine, and as the spokesman for the department of the united states of america matthew miller says, the issue of assistance to ukraine is at a critical point, requiring

the immediate approval of additional funding, let's hear what miller said. respect to aid to ukraine, the pentagon has said publicly that they have exhausted somewhere around 95% of their funds to provide security assistance to ukraine, security assistance that's very important, um, we think it's urgent that the house pass um uh the supplementary requests that we made, not just to fund security. now, said matthew. miller, we are at a critical point in terms of aid to ukraine. the pentagon has publicly stated that it has exhausted about 95% of the funds allocated for security assistance to ukraine, assistance that is very important. we believe that the house should urgently accept the additional request that we have sent not only for financing

security assistance to ukraine, not only for financing security assistance to israel, but and to fund the humanitarian aid that we provide to the people of gaza, which we believe is extremely important, both for their safety and well-being and for the long-term security interests of israel. mr. oleksandr, at the time when matthew miller spoke about the need to restore additional funding for ukraine, israel and the gaza strip, humanitarians on humanitarian issues, there was a ukrainian delegation in the united states of america, and it is still headed by the vice prime minister - minister of ukraine yulia sveredenko, and andriy is included in this delegation yermak andriy yermak made several statements regarding the fact that 2024 will be a turning point for ukraine, and today i see from the statements made by yermak that

the issue of closing the sky over ukraine was discussed, i.e. providing additional air defense, because ukraine will open one of the civil . ports and it will be necessary to solve this issue somehow, how do you evaluate the kind of diplomacy that the ukrainian delegation is currently demonstrating and how effective it is in the current situation, how persuasive it is and whether yulia was from that category of people who conducted the negotiations sveredenko and andriy yarmak, unfortunately, ukraine is the handmaiden of internal political processes in the united states, and there are a certain number of congressmen who want anything to get ukraine out of these aid projects, so that ukraine is not financed. then they put forward, let's say, different claims against ukraine, or they don't talk about ukraine at all, but they say that

the dollars of american taxpayers should be spent on their own american interests, and of course they will be convinced by any ingenious diplomat or politician, or the driver the head of the president's office, the vice-premrem, cannot. but there is also a conscious part of republicans who say that we are ready to allocate money, but we need it. to understand for what, that is, what is, as they call the theory of victory, and the second point, they talk about the tools of control over the spending of these funds, because you know very well that ukraine does not have a very good reputation regarding corruption, of course, that we can , let's say so, to bring out arguments in their favor that the european union and the european commission say that it is necessary to start the process of negotiations on membership of ukraine in the eu, looking at the success, which, or the success in reforms, which the ukrainian authorities have demonstrated recently,

and of course we have arguments, but in any case, let's call this, a corrupt state, it remains , and our enemies also use it, regarding the transparency of use, there are actually no problems here, since from the very beginning the front transfer of weapons to us, mechanisms were already laid, which means monitoring this, and here in the summer, i did not see the latest public figures, but in the summer there was information that about 404 reports of this inspector general of the pentagon have already been prepared and none of them contain violations on the part of the ukrainian military, that the weapons went somewhere in the wrong place, another issue, of course, is economic aid and other types of aid, there may be questions, but there are also tools control over this, and actually what ukrainian officials and politicians in washington can say, of course they can say about what we are planning, that is, what

actions we have from the point of view of military actions, ukraine's readiness to further defend itself and release your own territory, and actually give at least some guidelines, although in fact, anyone who is currently in washington, he cannot but be able to clearly form what we can achieve, because it depends a lot on not ours. freedom is not due to the fact that we have human resources who are ready, let's say, to risk their own lives in order to protect their own state, but what resources they can give us, in fact, first of all, the united states, and there is such a, you know, closed circle, we need to say our goals, well, we have clear goals, strategic goals, the complete liberation of the territory of ukraine, but let's say we can't do it with those, albeit large, resources that have been provided to us since last year, but not... sufficient to cope with the largest country in the world, with

the largest military power on the territory of the european continent, so of course, i think there will be moderate success, the success of our interlopers who are there, i think they will give certain arguments to the administration, which will use them to convince, first of all, the house of representatives, and i hope that was already voted in the senate, aid for israel, or at least two resolutions on the continuation of the american government should be voted during this week, and i hope that in the next week or so they will get their hands on the aid package to ukraine, to the southern border with mexico, strengthening it, and about taiwan, and i hope that the senate, speaker johnson, will show their political skill, in order to... give aid to ukraine, i don't know in what amount, maybe it will be less than $60 billion, but of course it

has to happen, and it is very good that he is his own time said that the united states should not allow russia to win in ukraine , that is, he is personally interested in providing assistance, whether he will be able to find such forms of packaging those things that the extreme right wing of the republicans need, with actual ukrainian interests, this is what we let's see and see, i think that in the next two weeks, and the chancellor of the federal republic of germany, olaf scholz, who assured of support for ukraine, we will hear what scholz said. i want to once again assure ukraine of the incredible solidarity of germany and ours support, after the united states, we are the biggest supporter of ukraine, we have every intention of continuing to help. the only thing that scholz did not say, mr. oleksandr, is that they are ready to give much more to ukraine than

they are giving, although, since the beginning of the great war, it is obviously not... the greater progress is from european countries, well, except for great britain, germany demonstrates, because germany generally started with rather modest aid to ukraine, we are all waiting for the taurus missile, but scholz doesn’t talk about it either, that is, according to you, in germany realizes that the lack of taurus and serious weapons in ukraine can end badly for the whole of europe? i think, yes, they realize that if the ukrainian counteroffensive is not successful, and we already have to say, of course, about the 20th campaign of the 24th year, of course, that this company definitely cannot be called a dead end, as some of our enemies for border, and of course, that's the way it is,

this wording was definitely not used by general zaluzhny in his article. he just said that we need such people means for us to have a qualitative advantage over our enemy and not lead to a positional war, we can use this, feminism, as a synonym there, actually a dead end, so of course the germans clearly understand this and it is absolutely possible to say that what we are watching how the changed policy of berlin from the very beginning of the large-scale: the invasion, this is really a tectonic change, and germany is the country that will say, maybe less than we want, but do more, they have already learned this lesson. regarding the torus, there is a question, fear, escalation on the part of the russian federation , and it is possible from the point of view of how many of these systems actually are in service with germany itself, because you know, with

the large-scale invasion, the germans found out that they have a bad business with the production of those weapons, ammunition , which are actually ready to be applied, and of course, like any country, they care first of all about their own interests, and then the interests of their allies, and only then about partner countries, such as ukraine, but all the rhetoric we hear from mr. scholz and indeed, those actions, since germany took second place after the united states in terms of providing us with arms and other assistance, they say that this awareness is definitely in berlin, thank you, mr. alexander, it was alexander hara, a diplomat, thank you for participating in the program, let me remind you that we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, during the current program we are conducting a survey, we are asking you about the following, does ukraine need a single telethon, this, this survey continues on youtube, on

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