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[000:00:00;00] questions arise again, yes, and who is the regulator, so to be honest, at the level, actually, i would perhaps partially agree with and actually victoria that we have such a serious enough state monopoly on the media, but here i would more correctly say, that the authorities are sure, because we have a state broadcaster, a public broadcaster, which at the previous convocation received enough... serious independence and, thank god, preserved it, and if you look at the results of the research of the institute of mass information, then this is the most balanced share in the single marathon , that is, is it possible to present materials in a balanced way, it is possible, well, but if you are not dependent on the authorities, that is why it is a big challenge, we as a parliament have now taken a step forward by adopting a law on media in accordance with european standards, but now there is
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a question about its implementation. and this is a huge question, because in fact, if you analyze what should be and how it is implemented, then of course there are more questions than answers, and here it is possible to move in a positive direction from only two, let's say, directions, the first - it is really in the process of monitoring compliance of our media space with the standards of the european union, we are actually integrating into this space, and we will be forced to answer a very large number of questions from our international partners, already about the fact that there should be a much more balanced and independent information policy, is already heard in the reports of the european commission, well, the second is the professional associations of journalists, but in fact , why
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are those people who worked there not even on the inter or plus side, but very often, totally presented in the single marathon simply on the channels of the media empire of medvedchuk, well, to be honest, for me the question arose, in principle, whether to consider this as journalism, and whether independent associations of journalists should react, in particular, to fight for raising the ethics and prestige of journalistic practice, work, so that it doesn't look like, you know, how it happens very often, just a beautiful stand, i'm sorry, under the microphone, and, regardless of gender, regardless of the channel, so there is still a lot of work, the only marathon showed very clearly all the challenges that are now, well, we are forced we will work with this, it is very unfortunate that, unfortunately, even analyzing the budget, we understand that the situation here is rather not on the way to correction , but rather to complication, that is, the strengthening of those negative trends that have existed so far,
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thank you, mr. kostyantyn, and victoria and yaroslav talk about the fact that these channels are related to oligarchs in ukraine, and these groups that participate in this single telethon, we know under what slogans zelensky came to power, we know with what fanfare the law on de-oligarchization was adopted, we know that by the first of may 22nd year there should be a register of those who are called oligarchs in ukraine. there is no such thing, the war is going on, they said, after the war they will do it, this register, and zelskyi even slandered the fact that there are practically no oligarchs left in ukraine, here a completely logical question arises, here is uah 2 billion, which next year will go to this single telethon, should it be perceived as a subsidy to these groups, which, well, in this situation, of course, are supported by the office
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of the president and zelsky, or are we talking about, er, the appearance of new oligarchs in ukraine, which ones, which are not will be in these registers, even when these registers will be drawn up after our victory, well, you know, two such, two such points that i would like to emphasize, we recently, about a month ago, opened a canteen, verpini, where free of charge, 300-350 people, every day people receive hot lunches, we made together with the mayor of the city with benefactors in spanish, this is such a contribution to help the development of the city, but at first there was a tv, and then we removed it from there, you know why , because people
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asked us, they... don't accept what today, the same, the same sentences, as if from different tv channels, have every day, every hour, and people today ask for a newspaper, that's not surprising, they ask to print a newspaper, provide a newspaper, a paper newspaper, yes there, people are old, maybe this is such a specific generation, but there is no trust, but what has changed, yes, if you look deeper, what did we not have for television, did we not know which channel belonged to whom, and because of what prism we should perceive this or that information, i do not
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perceive, very happily, the future, together with with a new law on the media, because, unfortunately, we do not create certain conditions at the state level... for the growth of an independent fourth branch of government, which journalists should be, we do not have independent journalists, they receive money in the form of salaries, not always, it happens transparently and not always their fortunes and their property , they correspond to them, the taxes they pay, and we actually have such a basis for the growth of independent journalists, journalism, and as a
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consequence, this is the reconstruction of independent communications with society, all this is not there, so i fully share the opinions of my colleagues on this discussion. about the fact that today we have a certain bias towards the government, there is a monopoly by the government, the office of the president, on communication by society, by means, the media, but, well, the same problem existed before the war, but it was not the president's office, not business groups, so i'm sure that we need to work in this direction and find compromises, the supposed law that
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was supposed to drive away the oligarchs, from the communicative of all these things, and from the media, the law that was adopted before the war, well, he received a lot of substantive criticism. because we expressed the position that this very law will lead to the fact that there will be full influence from the authorities on all media, and in manual mode they will decide who is an oligarch and who is not an oligarch, and who will be recorded as bad businessmen , and who will not be, and the influence will be completely 100% from the office of the president. on all tv channels, but the war came and a single telethon was born, we see its consequences today, people don't want to watch, why, because
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they don't trust me, i brought you our dining room in irpin, as an example, that is why it is necessary to work and work in the direction of building a normal journalistic community, because what he said about telegram channels, well, it seems that danilo said that the anonymity of telegram channels is the main problem, but telegram- channels are also, mr. kostyantyn, the basis of the current media policy of the president's office, because they gather telegram channels at a meeting of managers, editors, let's say so, and say that this is also media, we are them, i am with you, i am with i agree with you, but that's all after all, the issue of anonymity, certain media or communication systems with society, well, it also raises many questions, because whose
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opinion is conveyed, who exactly is behind this anonymity, well, the same, it is impossible in the future, that is, on the one hand, we do not understand who it says, on the other hand, one must... understand that there is a war going on, and any sayings or slogans must have authors, and society itself already gives an assessment. to these authors, and when there are no authors, but there are certain anonymous ones who may be in the office of the president, may be in other places, they can be anywhere, it is necessary to work with it, but still, it is necessary to create a journalistic community and names that are trusted and provide the opportunity for these people to have a discussion with society and give their opinions, that is, there are two questions here, this is the
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communication system itself from journalists to society, and another issue is journalistic ethics and rules, the lives of these people, and we also need to work with this, because we all understand that any famous name in journalism has customers, we know their names, who pays that's why we also need to work with it, we worked with the declarations of officials, deputies, well, in my opinion, we need to work with the declarations of journalists as well, well, i understood that you think that the most important problem in the country is the lack of declarations by journalists, and journalists should be the first to answer, if you want, i can answer for myself, that is, i am not afraid to declare my profits and income, they are all in the tax
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inspectorate and you have no questions, i will correct you a little bit, the main problem with us is something else is, in the course of the discussion you and i touched upon the problems of journalism, i asked yaroslav yurchyshyn, who was engaged in anti-corruption activities, when the draft law was passed and the anti-corruption officers were still to be declared, then somehow the corrupt officers disappeared from the field of view, well, yes, that’s how it turned out, and the anti-corruption officers were forced were to explain, that is, i am asking you about whether we will not have a single oligarch in the form of the office of the president of ukraine, yermak, the chairman or president zelsky, you tell me, well, in principle, we must work as journalists, we must to make them answerable to society in the same way, there must be a balance in power , you understand, when... unfortunately, today we have
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a completely usurped system in three branches of government, then people see, at least have hope that there will be a fourth the branch is independent, but when we see that there is no independence here either, the question arises that it is necessary to work with all the branches, branches, i agree with you, ms. victoria, regarding the anonymity of the telegram, well , to be honest, this is my statement... danilo surprised the secretary of the national security service of ukraine, because now they are suddenly realized that the telegram channel, which belongs to a former russian, or russians , actually poses a big problem for the security of ukraine, and suddenly it turns out that those telegram channel managers who went to the president's office to meet with media curators, that they are not they do that it is still necessary to conduct a separation, what do you say about this? i will still allow serhiy to return a little to
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the previous one, because i believe that the attempts to monopolize the information space were generally made by the authorities very actively before the full-scale invasion of 22, and the de-oligarchization law that you already mentioned, that was one of the tools, actually, there was no fight against monopolies in that law, with a lot of things that had to be done, to strengthen independence there antimonopoly committee and similar things, but there was... a direct hint, so you don't want to be an oligarch , give your zmi, sell your zmi, that 's what this law was about, that's why the venice commission criticized it very seriously, and there the definition of what media is was more than the definition of everything that could be related to some oligarchic politics, so let's fix this moment, then a full-scale invasion begins, channels that are not controlled by the government go off the air, and all the rest of the tv
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just merges in the marathon, which, let's be frank, well, it is censored, that is, it is directly controlled by certain people, there, at least, before it was from the ministry of culture, and no one came to know how it all happens, unfortunately, even public broadcasting, in the creation of which i was involved, is also, unfortunately, governed by reports, because it also depends on budgeting and they understand very well, they simply will not be given money if they do not act in accordance with this positions, yes, that is, the positions of agreeing on guests, agreeing on topics, well, everything that there is censorship, that's why it's very important. to show that it was such a deliberate policy of the authorities to monopolize the information space, what did it lead to, serhiy? that's just me it seems that this leads to the killing of television in ukraine, because people, when they do not have information, or they understand that they are being lied to, and they do not trust, what
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do they do, they go to social networks, and here ukrainians went to social networks, they went to youtube, and they watch us, i hope, now, for example, on youtube, and many others, by the way, and channels and autotor youtube channels, you see how they are growing today, youtube is growing at a crazy pace, it simply says that there is a distrust of traditional television, gone here, but just messengers, social networks also include telegram , that is, yes, by the way, facebook does not crash, although everyone said that there facebook disappeared, now tiktok appeared, no, we see, it does not crash, but telegram - this is really a number. there is a whole set of problems related to telegram. you are absolutely right. i do not believe that russians are the same. i do not believe that the fsb does not control this messenger, because recently there was very interesting information about what, in general, telegram channels of small nations of russia, which are not agree with the central policy, were turned off, were blocked in fact in
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the telegram, which basically proves the influence of the fsb on everything that they are uncomfortable with. telegram is really anonymous, that is, you can get any information and absolutely not be responsible for it, i want to tell you that you can order virtually any information there, as well, on different telechans on different channels, telegram channels, and they charge for it , realizing that it is anonymity, through cryptocurrencies, through wallets that are practically impossible to trace there, whether it constitutes the danger, of course, is, we must be aware that, first of all, anyone there actually reads russian, telegram, channels, and from there, by the way, there are very serious influences on the temporarily occupied territory, countries, today, accordingly, there very diverse propaganda is spread, yes, this moment of anonymity works there, which we have already started to talk about, but what is important and what we have not said yet, and let's be frank, and
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part of these telegram channels is also controlled by the ukrainian authorities today, so what on what telegram is supported, every media, it must be supported by something. television depends on the picture, yes, there, on some entertaining content, telegram depends on the promptness and relevance of news, that how can you get current news, well, we understand that the telegram channel cannot simply find out how a rocket flies, people watch , in order to trace, in general , planes fly, take off, they generally fly on the territory of ukraine, there were rocket launches, who has this information, this information is available to law enforcement agencies , law enforcement agencies. which actually should have this private this information, use it purely for themselves, but it is under these state authorities as well as law enforcement agencies , these gram channels are actually created, which receive exclusive operational information at the expense of this, and accordingly, of course, this is how
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the loyalty of these is formed telegram channels to the authorities, to the authorities, direct cooperation and similar things, here is the phenomenon of the telegram in ukraine, in ukraine, which , according to... promotion of their telegram channels, from there they actually left and appeared, so in fact , this is also another tool for the authorities, and it should not be hidden, it should be talked about, we have to take a short break, we will return to the studio, literally in a few minutes , do not switch. usual tasks become unreal, heavy bags are not for my sick back, for back pain, try dolgit cream. kremgit relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. with dolgit cream, whatever you want, i'll lift it. dolgit is the only yellow cream
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you draw your own conclusions. starting tomorrow, the government introduced a three-week quarantine in ukraine due to the coronavirus. the government allocated 100 million for the additional purchase of masks and disinfectants. earthlings movie. 2005 watch everyone. the sbu announced the suspicion to a man who hijacked a bus with passengers on july 21 in lutsk. friends, this is the verdict, we are working live, today we have three people's deputies as guests, and these guests are, of course, online, they are victoria syumar, yaroslav yurchyshyn and kostiantyn bondarev. we are talking about the most current things, i cannot but ask you about today's events, because today the security service of ukraine filed
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charges against iryna farion, regarding her statements against russian-speaking military personnel, appeared in the evening information about the fact that iryna farion was dismissed from the position of a teacher at the lviv polytechnic, he already wrote about it on his page, ksen lisovyi, minister of education, yesterday students protested against iryna farion, i want us to be quite brief, for an hour and a half minutes, my dear guests, have responded to this event, because over the past few days we have seen simply very active media activity, donate for taftology in social networks, in the media, some are for, some are against, is it fair or unfairly, regarding farion. and how to perceive it and the fact that the scandal that accompanied it and the actions of the sbu and the lviv polytechnic, mr. yaroslav
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, we will start with you, well, we have law enforcement officers to investigate all the components of this case, and to be honest, any political comments, in this regard, will probably rather politicize the process, i am more concerned about the situation not, actually ...' on the topic, the actual use of the state language, as it should be used, after all, it is unlikely that we can simply ethically put the question is what language do the people who are defending you and me now speak, if they are engaged in education in the language issue, it is clearly not because of mutual images, i am more concerned about the fact that despite - advice, yes, sir.
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iryna not only publicly illuminated a student who is in the occupied territory, who supports her views and thanked her for the work she is doing, and in fact then tried to justify the fact that she actually burned, endangered life and health of this person, so i would all... still, once again, i tried traditionally to remove any politicization, especially of cultural and linguistic issues, and, this is mostly from the sly, it mostly leads to a completely different result than i would like, we have very good legislation, again, a lot in which, thanks to the previous parliament, and thank god in this parliament, this trend continues about the state language , there are a lot of people who now, especially in times of aggression, voluntarily switch to and practice the state language, even at
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the everyday level, that’s why right students to go out and protest? when they believe that the actions of a university teacher actually damage the image of the university, definitely so, whether there were grounds for dismissal , if there were not, i think that this decision will be appealed, and under any conditions, i think that it will be appealed, thank you, mr. yaroslav, mr. konstantin, well, you know, from the point of view of ethical behavior, ms. farion, she cannot stand any criticism, because we know, we have all seen that the language issue always arises before elections and is exploited for destabilization of society, for the division of society, and today during the war, to publicly raise this topic and raise it in the direction of what language our
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defenders communicate in, well, this is madness, the assessment... of the activities of ms. farion should be given a legal assessment by the law enforcement officers, they, i sure will be provided, we know that there is a reaction, accordingly, after we see the assessment that concerns her, there is suspension or dismissal, the person who appointed her for this job makes the decision, and accordingly the assessment can also be given... the court, if will be an appropriate appeal, i cannot comment on whether he was fired correctly or not, the right to protest , students and all citizens, in what form, that is a different question, today, wartime, there is an issue with gatherings, but the youth raised this
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issue, and i believe that it really is, we don't have much time in '. it remains, mrs. victoria, you know when the bill on the english language was initiated, by the way, about the fact that civil servants should all know english, by the way, i share this opinion, i told this to my husband, he studied german, he says: well, it's good that in okop, on the front is possible without english, therefore, in fact, the key here is that it was really contempt for the defenders of ukraine, we have no right to this, and today, you know, we are under threat of losing ukrainian statehood, and the statesman is the one who thinks about ukrainian statehood, not how to split ukrainian society, that's what i would focus on today, unity is a huge value, and i simply thank those people who are switching to the ukrainian language today, and among my acquaintances, well, among my acquaintances, there are a lot of such people , who do it out of patriotism positions
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today, ukrainians have understood who their eternal enemy is, they understand this every day under the shelling of the east of the country, under all these airstrikes, air bombs, and this realization comes, i think that this is the best propaganda for the ukrainian language, which today is carried out by our history itself ukrainian, in which we live in such a bright time, so you should not add oil, you know, to such a topic as contempt for the defenders and the growth of society, unity, thank you, thank you, viktoriya syumar, yaroslav yurchyshyn and kostyantyn bondarev were guests of our program today, thank you for your participation. in the program, ladies and gentlemen, during the program we conducted a survey, we asked you during the telecast whether ukraine needs a single telethon. so what are our tv viewers saying who voted by phone, almost 2000 votes, 91% no, 9% yes.
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voting is also ending on youtube now, and i see 85% think we don't need a single telegraph. 15% yes, 318 votes already in the second part of the program. friends, i'm putting an end to this, it was the verdict program, it was hosted by serhiy ordenko, i wish everyone good health, take care of yourself and your relatives, goodbye. problems with suglobas are limiting. the spirit is unpleasant and painful. strengthen them with the help of long joints. these are sachets with collagen and vitamin it is for the restoration of articular cartilage. dolgit joints contributes to the normal functioning of the joints and has a positive effect on the health of the bones. dolgit joints will improve motor functions. stretch your joints and move freely. the story of new york girlfriends

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