committee of the verkhovna rada on social policy and protection of veterans' rights, lieutenant general of the militia in reserve. glory to ukraine, mr. mykhailo, i congratulate you. glory to the heroes, i wish everyone health. well, i would like to talk about the internal ukrainian political and not only political situation, we understand that it is a kind of triad, a certain complex. yes, we understand that extremely important talks took place in the united states between the chinese leader and the american president. at the same time, in the united states , a huge pata is dedicated to help ukraine, and we understand how much these negotiations can actually affect our internal ukrainian situation, in particular , we are talking about the budget, we have a quite tangible and understandable hole in the budget, and god forbid, if the united states does not dare, if congress will minus and further allocation of increased financial assistance to us, we can receive, accordingly, certain... social

problems, i.e., in particular, when delays will begin, or, for example, inflation will jump and so on, these are, as it were, reasons, objective will be, but on the other hand, we would like to avoid them, and accordingly we understand that here we need to quickly think about rethinking the same budget, that is, we need to prepare, perhaps some kind of financial spare airfield and a significant part of the resource can be located in ukraine, i understand that in the verkhovna rada they are happy to talk about it. maybe it's not too public, share, be kind, some news from this direction. well, taking into account the fact that everything that a ukrainian businessman, a ukrainian enterprise earns, by paying taxes, annuities and others, er, income to the budget, all this goes to the expenses of the defense sector, this is clear, and this is a reality, and what concerns salaries, the budget.

of all social payments - this is a problem that we faced last year, and this, in the end, is covered by our international partners, the lion 's share of funds comes from the united states of america, for which we do not stop thanking them, what is happening with the allocation of funds or the postponement of the deadline the allocation of funds now to israel and ukraine is a serious signal that is unpleasant for the ukrainian authorities and not only for the authorities, for everyone who will live in ukraine today, and it is important that the ukrainian authorities, first of all, the cabinet of ministers, be ready for any development of events, and not only that.

to the delay in the receipt of macro-financial assistance, as well as to its reduction, and today the government is already speaking more boldly about this, although we warned them even earlier, we said that it is necessary to professionally enter into negotiations with the international monetary fund, other borrowers, not only regarding the postponement of payment interest on debt obligations, generally demand from ours partners yes. what happened to ukraine is a very important moment: debt write-off, that is, in principle, it would remove the burden on the budget in terms of percentages, unequivocally, and these funds that ukraine returns to borrowers, they would really go to the development of the economy, including payments

, and social and other, because of that... by the way, there is such an experience in international practice and even in ukrainian practice, when after 2014 we were written off part of our debts, we must speak frankly about this and it is very important that the ministry of finance, the national bank and those all those who speak today on behalf of the ukrainian state have introduced professional negotiations, why is cooperation with the international monetary fund important? because this is almost a fourth part of the funds that ukraine uses, but for cooperation with the imf, observes cooperation with the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, is observed by our other potential borrowers and those who give non-refundable aid, for them this is a marker of how ukraine signs agreements, how it fulfills the agreements, and how the international

monetary fund is behaving, which, by the way, has resumed the work of a full-fledged office in ukraine and they they watch everything, how funds are distributed, how they use them. what is the deficit, what is the currency policy, etc., because of that, we are facing difficult times, but, let it be delayed, but i believe that the united states will allocate funds, because there are two directions, the first, which concerns the allocation of funds and they are used for the production of ammunition of the united states, that is... these are non-living funds for ukraine, and the second part, macro-financial aid, is exactly the funds that go to cover the budget deficit, which currently, according to the draft budget, because it has not yet been signed by the president, for next year, these are, excuse me, colossal numbers,

more than half of the entire budget, this is a deficit, these are loans, these are domestic, these are bonds. intrastate loan, by the way, recently the government held auctions and bailed out several billions to the budget, that is, there is a difficult work going on, as regards the negotiations between the leaders of the united states and china, it is actually very important, because this is the first such meeting in the last five or six years, the result should not be expected to be instantaneous, but the fact that the process of communication between the leaders of the two, superpowers of the world, this gives hope that ukraine will be able to get the support of the united states, uh, get the position of china, regarding the support or non-support of russia, because

it is no secret for anyone that today, the russian federation, it is dependent on china, although here is the visit of the head of the presidential office, mr. yermak, to the united states, that is, it happened literally a couple of days before the meeting in san francisco at , respectively, the euro, at the pacific forum, so accordingly, that according to you , the head of the presidential office brought to the united states chancellery, respectively, it is possible that he heard something important there, well, we should remember that it was a government delegation, which included the first vice prime minister, the minister of economy, yulia svoradenko, and several other representatives of the cabinet of ministers, and andrii yermak, as the head of the president's office, by the way, who heads one of the working groups, which

includes representatives of the government, the united states and ukraine, what is important here, it is important that the diplomatic work of ukraine should receive a completely different breath, on behalf of the state, who authorized to do this, from the office of the president, from the government, from the verkhovna rada, there should be landings in those states where we have a problem of relations, it is necessary to go and sort out who can communicate in the united states, with senators, huh. with other representatives who today form opinions from both republicans and democrats, of course, this is important, we have to talk about the fact that representatives of the authorities of ukraine should go to the european union and convince the representatives of hungary, slovakia, and bulgaria, i.e. get ahead of those

the negative events that we have today with ukraine's closest neighbor and advocate in the world, i mean poland. blocking of freight traffic, that is, it is necessary to anticipate such events, to receive a signal, because i think that this is a positive trip, uh, that signals were received there, maybe certain answers, and i think that andriy yermak and representatives of the official delegation, they also had conversation, and understood when we will receive the funds. to what extent and what ukraine needs to do by this time in order to be voted on although the allocation of the tranche is already in the middle of december, there are such prospects, but i emphasize once again that it is important that the ukrainian authorities here act synchronously in all directions, the government in

the form of the prime minister, deputy prime ministers and the ministry of foreign affairs, the verkhovna rada not only two committees, all other deputies, who have many of the people's deputies, have personal contacts, senators there, representatives of other palaces, this is very important. and here it is not necessary to restrain anyone, not to hold back, here the authorities, the opposition must unite, everyone should go, convince and so on to achieve the desired result, thank you, thank you, mr. mykhailo, and the key signal in the united states, i think, has been heard and seen, in particular, it is about people 's deputy dubinsky, who at one time appeared in the so-called derkach films, well, let 's talk about this and other things after a short break in our studio, people 's deputy mykhailo tsimbalyuk, wait, the usual

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up with economic news and sports news. two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become like family to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two o'clock, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people, in the evening for espresso. on november 25, 2013 , a convoy of five hundred opposition forces marched to the building of the cabinet of ministers. the protesters wanted to express their disagreement with the government's decision to suspend the process of preparation for the signing of the agreement on satiation with the european union. by evening , the number of people on euromaidan and european square increases to several thousand. clearing the so-called independence square of activists. she began around 4 o'clock in the morning. at that time , there were about 400 protesters on guard, mostly students, they were sleeping in

tents, then the square was surrounded by armed fighters of the special battalion. on december 8, 2013, a march of millions passed through the streets of the capital, the vigil continued until late at night, and it was on this day that activists toppled a monument to lenin in the center of the capital on besararab square. the information day of the tv channel is in full swing, more precisely, taking into account the winter season. time , the informational evening is already in full swing, but there is a lot of important and interesting news in mykhailo tsimbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on social policy, to our studio. and the protection of veterans' rights, the lieutenant general of the police in zapas, and mr. mykhailo, i can't help but ask you about mr. dubinsky's case, they dragged on for a very long time, do you remember how many different statements and possibly actions he made, so well and the key story that, well, when attention was paid to him in washington too, i think, so

to speak, it was the story with the tapes, the so-called derkacha, yes, when it was made public... i don’t know some edited or unedited wiretaps, recordings, in particular first-person conversations, and this is a story not only about ukraine, it’s a story about the united states, that is, i think, president joseph biden, the current president identified himself then with with the whole affair with dubinsky, and will any additional steps follow? well, in my opinion, this is a negative example when ukrainian politics, or... representatives from ukraine played the role of interfering or forming a certain opinion regarding the elections of our strategic partner, the united states. it is important that conclusions be drawn from this negative example and that it does not repeat itself in the future. this is a very important lesson

for ukraine as a whole and for the entire political community. next, why is it so late, some ask, well, me. it seems that, after all, the law enforcement agencies, understanding the importance of such a step, did, documented in simple language , certain characters, the first documented, and the second carried out certain investigative actions, her operational measures, and perhaps even conducted these or other, her examinations, which were needed under the time of operational support, because it seems to me that here it is better late, but recorded, and understanding that such a case must receive a judicial perspective, and it can receive such a perspective only in the case when everything is clearly documented according to the current legislation, because of that it seems to me that due to the fact that

there is no politics here, this is purely a criminal process, and it is important that our law enforcement agencies be present. everything was documented so that there was actually a court decision that would enter into legal force, and this would thus demonstrate, that ukraine is a legal state, regardless of who made any statements, i mean dubinsky, he did not make this before, thank you, mr. mykhailo, i am now adding dana yarova, a volunteer, a member of the public anti-corruption council under the ministry of defense, to our marathon. glory to ukraine, ms. dana, i am glad to hear and see you, glory to the heroes, congratulations ukraine, congratulations studio , well, today is a holiday, yes, the day of television and radovleniya, not too comforting news came from arsen jumadilovov, yes, the head of the state operator tyla, and he stated that there was an intention to change the recently introduced nato system of purchasing complex food services according to the catalog and to return to the old system of individual

purchases of products - and services and delivery and preparation, madam... to be honest, i only hear about this news, i didn't read it, the last post, i'm asking you, it's very loud, i can only hear myself, it's very distracting, thank you, i didn't read his post, i heard this news from you, i don't think we should deviate from the standards in food, i will explain why, because this system was introduced from the 15th until a very long time, we changed the legislation to implement this system, and this system provides for the purchase of not only food, it provides for the purchase of logistics, logistics services, delivery of food to the soldier, that is, relatively speaking

, in the lviv region, lviv, and the 24th brigade, this is the city of the pppd, where the brigade, let's say, is registered, if so roughly, at some point it goes to the front line and after it, the food supplier makes deliveries for it to where it is brigade. now in the conditions of a positional war, the brigades are stretched along the entire front line and in one sector there can be companies of many brigades. and still food suppliers, they cope and they deliver food to our defenders, if we return to the system again, this system was soviet, according to which the ng buys, the border guards buy, the ministry of internal affairs buys, and the essence of this purchase is really at the manufacturer, but it will be without logistics, it is again necessary to deploy some logistics hubs

of the ministry of defense and buy again to buy out the logistics function, because it will again be at the expense of the supplier, because the ministry of defense does not have such a fleet, a car. who would deliver food once or twice a day, bread is delivered to us once every two days, milk is delivered once every three days, so the position of the rear on this issue is sharply negative, they do not want to take on the function of logistics, food , these are the first , second, ah, the warehouses that the ministry of defense had for food products, they were disbanded a long time ago, and again their to create, well, let's imagine the budget of this story for the next year, and to build the logistics hubs of the ministry of defense, plus it is necessary to purchase equipment for storing

food, it is necessary to hire people or draft people, we do not have, sorry, people to fight, now let's we will also organize it for them, the supply of food, that is, it is a whole set of issues, i am honestly surprised, because i heard that since yesterday i had a two-hour meeting with zhumadilov, i have not heard such changes from him, and i am very surprised by the information that you to me they said, by the way, now the ministry of defense, in the department of resource provision, is reviewing the food documentation for the next three months. ugh, thank you, ms. dana, mr. mykhailo, maybe you have information, well, in any case, what concerns the state enterprise, state operator tylu and dzhumadilov, well, he says that information attacks have begun on him, we understand that when we we are talking about

the procurement of the rear, it is not only about the fulfillment of the sacred duty, to provide our military with everything, so to speak it is necessary, in particular, that someone wants to make money on it, cook it, and maybe someone wants to steal it, that is, he understands. when it comes to hundreds of millions of hryvnias, there will be very dishonest schemes. i agree with ms. dana, she is actually on the topic of this process, as a representative of civil society, i have not heard such information either, although i am a member of the working group, i did not understand the representatives of all factions, i was disconnected, and the groups that, ms. with us, and i with you, so let's go quickly, i'm sorry. will conclude with a thought after that, ms. dana, well, i will then opportunity for ms. dana to say, i haven't heard that information, and

i'll look into it tomorrow, i don't think it's worth inventing some new bike, in fact , as far as i know, the situation has improved there with the supply and food, i don't understand , that this new management offers something new, maybe ms. dana will explain, yes ms. dana. yes, i apologize to the studio guest, i'm sorry, please, i just thought i was off the air, i'm just finding now in the resource department, we're just right now there is a vote on food suppliers, i ran out of the meeting, so excuse me, i have to go back , i think it is inappropriate, today, during a war , to change a procedure that has been in place for years, because you know, reformation during the war is like doing some complicated operation, and

for example, one surgeon stood for 8 hours operating, another one comes up and says: let me finish this operation, the main rule is both during wartime and in peacetime, so that reformation does not interfere timely delivery of anything to our armed forces, because we cannot pause the war and say wait, we will reform now and then resume the war again, so, well, i can appeal to the senior leadership of the ministry of defense, please let's not experiment, it works, it works normally, for these one and a half years, there were no complaints about the quality , there were about the prices, there were no about the quality, that is, let's still not make sudden movements, food is about trade, now we determine the winners, a large number of suppliers in the second half of the year, even in one region we have 19 participants who

submitted documents, therefore. today you know it, the basic principle, as in treatment do no harm, because even according to nato standards, which we have to implement, during the military, martial law, the first place in terms of supply is timeliness of supply, then quality, and only then price , these are nato standards from the 15th year, which were given to us by our allies to implement in... ukraine, so the main thing is, let's not interfere the timely delivery of anything to the front line, that's the main thing, i have one more request for ms. dana while she's on the air, i 'm still asking you to get involved, i'm the head, i'm the co-chair of the inter-factional group on the protection of rights, volunteers, knowing , what do you represent from civil society and this part

, our... please, let's include, to jointly knock down this resolution that was drawn there in the government, which, who want it to work from december 1, because it is, really bears signs of harm to national security, defense, let's join forces so that it does not become effective, i am sure that we will achieve a common result, but we understand that the government has already approved it ... and we will press on, because it is actually unprofessional, harmful a resolution that no one consulted with people's deputies, i don't know, maybe with civil society, maybe ms. dana knows, no, no, no, no one consulted with us, i didn't even hear that anyone was involved in the process of creating this resolutions, i am with you completely, maybe you will hit on the introduction, so to speak, of trench needs, on

implementation of trench needs, it slows down everything that this, it slows down absolutely everything , it slows down, and maybe even stops this help that goes through volunteers for our military, this is a very dangerous situation in terms of conditions, let's think about the fact that with on the one hand, the ministry of defense is stalling the procurement procedure, and on the other hand, we are still adopting a resolution limiting volunteer assistance, these are very bells and whistles, such dangers... and we as a civil society must respond to them and we must talk about that this harms our activities, because it is true, i will be happy, yes , i will be happy to join you, my phone is known on the channel, so i will be happy to join, and indeed i have heard from many volunteers that they will curtail their activities, then because the war is over with us, the war is not over with us, thank you for your position, lady, thank you, mr. mykhailo,

we have one minute, that is, how long. the deputies will now actively try to cancel this resolution, whether the government will hear from them. this process has already begun, we have adopted the law and we demand that the government immediately cancel this erroneous, harmful resolution and develop by-laws related to the law passed by the verkhovna rada, and we will find, because every problem has a surname, first name, patronymic of an official, and to understand in whose interests , what? he is acting here unequivocally not in the interests of the ukrainian state and not in the interests of the armed forces of ukraine, which today defend statehood on the front lines. thank you very much, ms. dana, mr. mykhailo, for this extremely important conversation and for the messages that i heard from you and our audience. people's deputy mykhailo tsimbalyuk and dana yarova, a member of the public anti-corruption council under the ministry of defense of ukraine, were currently working on espresso. do not

switch, leave. from espresso, my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of the day. see you soon on the air. good evening to all viewers of espresso . the news team will tell you about the most relevant events at the moment, and i will start with something that is no longer neutral. switzerland supported the creation of a special tribunal to investigate the crime of russian aggression. the corresponding statement became notorious at a meeting in berlin of a group of countries that favor the creation of such a tribunal. switzerland is firmly convinced that aggression.