[000:00:00;00] i want to remind you that this trumpist, vivek ramaswamy, who participates in debates, candidates, republicans, he repeats trump's thesis that china should pay humanity for covid, so with this covid stamp, to me, it seems to me that everyone must be very, very careful. it is customary not to irritate the civilized world, because following chinese, or rather american technologies and with american companies leaving china , european technologies, in particular, german and french, may also turn away from china mechanical engineering, well, everything else is there, relatively speaking, if france and germany

turn away from china, from an active economy. of cooperation are beginning to transfer their production to the territory of india, and i want to, er, referring to european experts , remind that germany and several other countries are quite actively beginning to transfer the metallurgical complex to india, so this is such a fun, fun cycle, at first mital bought out metallurgical plants in ukraine, and now europe is buying up metallurgical plants in india. well, times are changing, this metal when, 20 years ago, he bought out the metallurgical plant in kryvyi rih, just continuing the topic, or ending the topic of both biden and xi jinping, xi jinping said that he would return the pandas that were taken away from the chinese pandas, well, that's the way, such gifts

are given by the leader. .. to putin's moscow zoo, the pandas were for a very long time in the zoo in washington and when relations between china and the united states of america deteriorated, the chinese simply took these pandas and said that's it, now xi jinping said that his country came to the united states new pandas and name. their ambassadors of friendship between the chinese and american peoples, that is, i understand that zijinping just poked this dictator and said that we will still be friends and share together, the world, will we have any, well still, will we see the consequences of this meeting, or if it will happen, then in some distant perspective, because china also needs to understand what to do next with putin and how do you feel about the war with ukraine,

because this position they took on february 24 , 2023, that we have 12 points, we have their vision of what is happening in ukraine, but there is no clear demand for russia to leave the territory of the ukrainian state, and this is a minus for us and a minus for china as well, because their position means that they support what putin is doing, well, directly a signal of changes in china's policy. there will be a visit of volodymyr zelenskyi to beijing, if such a visit takes place, it will be a direct symbol of the fact that china has changed its policy, i want to remind you that even during the war, china remained the main buyer of ukrainian grain during this grain agreement, he in my opinion, he took 15% of the grain, in general, the largest consumer

of ukrainian grain among all countries, even during the war. but this is the duplicity of china, on the one hand it buys ukrainian grain, and on the other it arms putin. as for the relationship between the united states and china, it is very important for biden that the republicans all the time accused the democrats and biden personally that he does not oppose china in any way, because the opposition to china seemed like a war for the sake of which it is necessary to side with russia, well these are absolutely utopian ideas, so this meeting is a first freed his hands in a certain way, biden, because of the practical results for the united states, the first is the restoration of the communication line of the so-called nuclear line, that is, well,

the nuclear ... warning system, the telephone line, or the communication system therefore, in the event of a nuclear threat, this is a consultation tool that existed and china has somehow come out of it. by the way, such a line of communication exists, by the way, and with kyiv, this is from the time when ukraine was a nuclear state, and the next important thing is drugs, er, that is, they were transited from china through mexico, into the united states, a large amount of fentanyl, it's a very synthetic heroin that uh, well maimed up to 50,000 and killed up to 50,000 american citizens. this is also a direct result, china is trying to strictly control the traffic of this fontanil, and it seems to me that biden

has a certain set of assurances, from the us, from china, that china will not arrange any unpleasant surprises in the election year for the us, just now for the elections. well, it is clear that china hopes for at least a slowdown in the outflow of american capital from the territory of the united states, and let me also remind you that in china has one more tool left, china holds the largest share among other, well among the countries of the world, of the american debt, it is somewhere over 2 trillion dollars, this is a very serious amount, which, although china itself has a loan in general , is almost 100 trillion plus, so here everything is balanced completely differently, but for china the most important thing is access to the american market, so that this sales market

somehow supports jobs in china itself, for biden this is a good signal, because cheap chinese products against the background of the growth of the american economy will somewhat affect the quality life in... the poorer strata in the united states, and it seems to me that these are exactly the voters of biden, who, well, already feel a certain economic stabilization and an increase in the number of jobs, and now this will also affect the quality of life, mr. volodymyr, one event of this day, ihor kolomoiskyi will still remain behind bars until december 2. and with a deposit or pledge of almost uah 4 billion, that is , kolomsky, despite everything, still did not leave sizo , this week oleksandr

dubinsky, who cooperated with 1.1 and who was considered one of those who was dragged into power by ihor kolomoiskyi for a very long time, let's hear what kolomoiskyi said about his. court and about the verdict of the court, this case is not just falsified or fabricated, it is simply invented and sucked, that is, in fact, this case could not be at all, if someone really did not want this case to be done urgently. i think that both dubinsky and kolomoisky in 2019 could not even imagine that in 2023 they would sit in the office under president zelensky, can it be assumed that dubinsky and kolomoisky sat in sizo then, when, on the one hand, zelensky went to the united states of america, to the un general assembly, and on the other hand, when yarmak went to

the united states of america, it somehow happened so synchronously that the first sat down when zelensky flew to washington, and the second when yarmak flew there, well, this dependence is significant. in fact , the united states discovered, or rather, sanctioned the same dubinsky quite a long time ago, i am not talking about the relations of the american family with kolomoisky, they, she, these relations are very sad, the american themis is looking for him, looking for him, and the fact that he is in the ukrainian pre-trial detention center is essentially kolomoisky's protection from the american themis and not only that. and from, for example, nabu, where are the cases in nabu, if kolomoiskyi now assures the court that he is being held in the pre-trial detention center on a made-up, invented case, then in nabuzh there are not entirely

uninvented cases, and kolomoiskyi does not think that in case of release of these cases that beb and the sbu formed against him, he will not get into the lab, nabu and nabu cases, well , for example, the bail can increase already times in at three, at four, at five, i will remind you that in london there is still... there is also a court on a private bank, and now , the supreme court of ukraine, for example, recognized the case against kolomoiskyi, the case of a private bank, and the nationalization of a private bank, as absolutely legal, that is, here , a lot of factors coincide here, and it is not known who is hiding from which agency now, in ukrainian detention centers. thank you, mr. volodymyr,

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solovya, saw putin alive and can say for sure, in this situation, we are on the screen we see that putin or not that putin, and what are these manipulations connected with, moderate, not moderate, he will lie next to lenin or next to brezhnev , somewhere there he will find a place, why is this being thrown into our information space and why is this death rocking, potential death. or real death of putin. yesterday, i had a broadcast on one of the ukrainian channels with valery solovyi, i said very simply, well, first of all, we don't care, so let's say it like this, whether he died or not, this will not change the politics of ukraine, in any way , and efforts made by the ukrainian people to ensuring their security and destroying the russian invaders, they will be the same.

this is the first and foremost thing, that people like to bury putin, well, i understand that very well, this is a topic that involves a lot of likes, i don't know, the hype element and so on and so forth, i all these ideas, even, what are there, doppelgängers, triplets, this, of course, it all sounds not bad, and in principle we can spread... this idea that the king is not real, or not the king, but the reality is like this, these are all the experts who say that in he has a forehead there, he has one here, he has one there hey, those who have had at least a little exposure to television know very well that depending on how you will be illuminated, for example, what kind of flashlight will be, a person can look completely different, i think, sergey, you support me, everyone who has been to the studios there and knows everything very well, there is such...

even a professional such jargon that it is important not how they make you up, but how they illuminate you, because light, it can add plus 10, plus 15 years, or subtract, respectively, you know what i'm talking about, so these stories, well, you see, ukrainians here talk about this topic, they like, on the one hand, this thesis , only one person, valery silavey, who is in moscow and is allowed to bury putin, maybe someone wants to pay attention to another object, maybe they want just to bring this situation to the point of absurdity, which they say, well, how much can be said about it, whether he died or not, and i just want to emphasize, if we are serious, that there is one criterion, this is the evidence base, all the statements of solovya, whether

we like them or not, they absolutely are without evidence, yes, either there is a corpse or there is no corpse, if there is one, it must be shown or buried, that’s right, well, first of all , show it, we’re even fine with it, let it be in the freezer, but there is no freezer, no corpse no, that is, the war goes its own way, the way it goes in its own way, ah, the situation is developing there, in the part of our external partners, in its own way, life goes on, well, the only thing you see is in the media space, well, that’s enough so lively, but... i really had to ask valery dmitrivych yesterday if he had any evidence, i have selavya mind, does he have proof that he is alive, that it is him and not his double or triple, because everything can be reduced to complete absurdity, but again, my thesis is this, russian bombs are killing us regardless

whether he is there or not, and the most important thing is that there is a change of power in moscow, well, it will probably happen someday... because it will die anyway, and then the salavi will say: i warned you, well, this is not the fault of that , that the approach of the russian state will be different, with a high probability that power will be transferred to the same political to the elites who are currently ruling there, and they will continue to bend this line, at least it is necessary to get out of it, and we will see there , it is clear that any movements in the kremlin, they from... open a certain window of opportunity, but this is again well, it's not a guarantee, so well, i just looked, videos, video views about potin's funeral, so many hundreds of thousands, youtube, he's not

lying anymore, he's really recording, he's just counting the number of people who clicked on it. well, those who work on youtube, they also want to live and eat, bread and butter, i'm up to it i understand, because i myself, well, i, by the way, regarding the death of putin, i always say that for ukrainians he died a long time ago, and this is not news, that is, not even in 2014, but as a person, he died, that is, this creature, simply for us this person does not exist, at the same time, the head of the main divorce office. which ministry of defense of ukraine kyrylo bogdanov says that in 2025 there is hope that this year will be a turning point for russia, because there will be internal, systemic destructive changes in russia, well, he says

that this is not a forecast and that this is an expectation, or do you see these mechanisms now, or these mechanisms, as always in russia, they can arise unexpectedly, this also happens quite often in russia, when some merciless rebellion appears there, which destroys everything there, or are there reasons for, say, that this society may become different, some group of people will appear, some processes that the kremlin will not be able to control, well, for example, some pogroms that they simply will not control, well, it is out of the question to wait for this black swan, something so unexpected , you know how, either yes or no, well, actually, putin is either dead or not, it’s like this, guessing on this, some kind of liquid, or, guess, a paddle on the river, you understand, many things that

are formulated here and now, and to say that there will be some changes in the 25th year , quite possible. moreover, i want to say that i have heard many times, don't ask why i heard it, but nevertheless, people who, well, as my personal experience shows, have some properties, i don't know, some call it malfarism , some by intuition, some by intuition, it doesn’t matter, well, that is, it is absolutely not a proof thing, they also say that the 24th year will be on...' a turning point in favor of ukraine, in the 25th year the war will end, the war. well, you can build a policy and build your decisions on this, well, probably not, because first of all, these forecasts are people. who do them, they are not responsible for anything, kirill budanov in this case, he is an intelligent person in a high position, he is just engaged, under his

leadership, our experts are engaged in the elimination of russian invaders, so i think that instead of emphasizing on the fact that putin is dead or will die, instead of waiting for some systemic crises and changes in moscow. it is necessary to focus on what we are doing, you understand, and to build our policy in such a way that we do not depend on the fact that whether it will work or not, and this and this is important, what i mean, changes in russia, why they can retaliate against us, under what conditions, when we will go forward, when we will destroy them, we are killing a lot of them now, we need to kill them even more, when 2000 from vladimir putin will not be enough

to leave to the front, and it's already happening because they have problems involving contractors, that is, we have to set the agenda, and look, look, all these forecasts of malfars and there experts and analysts, they respectively. will be in life, because in these stories, you can see how with the situation, will putin attack or not, remember this discussion before the full-scale invasion, i thought that he would not attack, and well , someone says, and you are a bad peregnazist, well i still think that in terms of common sense, he shouldn't have done that, but the question is, if a person holds a certain position, the president, well, in general. the political and military leadership, what should they do, they should calculate the situation from the worst to the alternative, and then, well, we've all heard it, prepare

for the worst, ah, hope for the best, prepare for the worst, that's what i remember, even on your broadcast, i repeated this phrase that once our minister of foreign affairs, with such, well, such reproach, at the expense of our western partners, said that they told us to dig trenches, so to speak, instead of help, but himself the experience of waging this bloody terrible war shows what this parade really is, it's great, it's very cool, when you dig trenches, you miss everything, and when you dig, you miss trenches, then the advance goes in a completely different way; for hundreds of kilometers, well, that is, why am i ... i don't want to, i don't see the point of emphasizing how we started the war, how we started the war, and it could

have been worse, and we all understand the price, we live now, and therefore this reflection, what will they have there, it seems to me that in the war, precisely the infliction of a military defeat in a certain direction, and this is a guarantee, if we are talking about the fact that the russians, about this fascist regime, will be... there will be slaps or not, well , everyone understands this very well, it depends on whether will be delivered, to a certain extent, to the necessary extent, long-range weapons, to the necessary number of airplanes, and so on, and so on, well, everyone understands that it depends on this, and everyone perfectly understands, there, you know, now there are a lot of these comparisons with israel, so the focus... of attention has shifted to on israel, we need weapons both here and there, well, listen, well, this is actually, these are such conversations,

ala the level, the kitchen, or something similar, because this also concerns western journalists, i understand that there, there a new theater of hostilities, and it goes well, because a new war, it is different, well, when someone says that there is not enough money for ukraine, because everyone will go to israel. just look at the area of ​​this gas, the gas sector, well, that is, the number of cartridges that are produced in ukraine, if something was there, then it is not there there would be nothing left, not only a single house, not a single person, not a single tunnel, and this is also an obvious thing, but this is the clip-on thinking of people, and so there is a new war, once they have switched over, as it were, and as everyone writes here and ukraine became uninteresting, why did it become uninteresting to the western press, because

, in fact, from the point of view of journalism, nothing is happening, and that's all, the war is going on, in principle, russia says that they are preparing for the elections, this gurul, the general of the army, a member of the state duma of russia, says that he is not doubts putin's victory, those who don't vote for putin can somehow be destroyed, let's hear what he said, there were proposals today. cancel the president, and why? even if we walk today, people pick their noses here, the president will win the election, it is not the merit of someone , it is his personal merit, i know ironically that he will win by a large margin, so i did not dream of all this nonsense that macrony has , the bidens are all there, the sholts and so on, and so on,

this is the state of our society today day, i would like that in this society of ours, which today trusts the president for 80%, and this is precisely the indicator of unity that exists today, so that all this rot that is left, it should be, well, if not it is isolated, even if somehow destroyed, well, that is, they show the perspective of russia and said that those who will be against it will not just go beyond the borders of russia, but they will simply be destroyed. you know, serhiy, it is interesting, yes, this one, lieutenant general boyarishny, general gurul, here he is already in this phrase, he immediately laid out everything that they have for what and who is in charge, and here is where he started, and it was proposed to cancel the elections, let 's ask a simple question, but who

proposed it, and why a whole lieutenant general, excuse me, in the literal sense of the word, to say the name of the person who proposed it, and it was ramzan akhmatovich kadyrov, well, in terms of the fact that it is necessary to destroy the russians, well, here in principle, well, these people went further, because i believe that it is necessary to destroy only those russians who crossed the border of ukraine with weapons in hands, if they want to put it in such a key in their swamps, well, let them do it, but in fact, again , so that, when we analyze the fascist regimes, they are very, very similar to each other, and when i say about the fascist nazi russian regime, this is precisely from a political point of view, this is not a strain of this type, you are fascists, are you not fascists, because one people, one state, one führer, this is modern russia, they are actually this is emphasized,

the way it works, that is, first of all, that means ukraine is an enemy, all neighbors - enemies, then begins such a massive , mass story of the fight against lbt, that is, you take it, we have 30 seconds of any russian talk show, roman, in short, the fight against the gays, the fight against the jews, well, then internal repression and death, millions of russians, amen, amen, thank you, roman, for the conversation, this is roman tsimbalyuk, there was. subscribe to his youtube channel and watch roman sembalyuk on youtube, well, we continue the survey, friends, and ask you about whether you are satisfied with the dialogue between the government and society during the war, we continue it on youtube, we continue it by phone lines, no, not satisfied 94%, 6% satisfied, this is a survey on tv , we will continue this survey in the second part of our program, which will take place literally, will

start in 15 minutes, we will have: there will be people's deputies, we will talk about everything, wait biden and xi jinping have finally met and seem to have come to an understanding, at least agreeing to continue the dialogue. we talk about the importance of this meeting on bbc news ukraine. i'm from london, i'm evgenia shedlovska. they did not see each other for a year. after all, what the leaders of the us and china held four-hour talks, indicating a warming of relations between the countries, although, of course, there are still many differences between them. it is better to talk than to fight, this is how you can briefly describe the long-awaited meeting, the personal