let's talk about everything, wait. biden and xi jinping have finally met and seem to have come to an understanding, at least agreeing to continue the dialogue. we talk about the importance of this meeting on bbc news ukraine. our you are from london, i'm yevgenia shedlovska. they haven't seen each other for a year, and the fact that the leaders of the us and china held four-and-a-half-hour talks indicates a warming of relations between the countries, although , of course, there are still many differences between them. it is better to talk than to fight, this is how you can briefly describe the long-awaited meeting, the personal meeting of president biden and xi jinping, relations between the united states and china are not easy, very not... simple

and such meetings allow to smooth out the sharp corners. neither high-profile statements nor signed agreements were expected from the talks between biden and sidzimpin, and this did not happen. among the key, practical , publicized achievements of these negotiations, the politicians agreed to restore direct communication between the american and chinese military, which is believed to help avoid misunderstandings and incidents that could turn into conflicts. don't ask why this relationship ended. let me explain, i will only say that when the united states shot down what they thought was a chinese spy bullet, the pentagon did not even have anyone to call in beijing, so communications between the military will be restored and not only that, president biden said that he and xi jinping agreed to keep in touch connection, pick up the phone, call directly and be heard immediately, these were the words of biden after the meeting with xi. actually, where they met, chinese leader xi jinping flew to the united states a summit of economic

cooperation, it is such a broad regional venue, while xi jinping previously ignored a g20 meeting in india where he could have met biden, the last time they saw each other was at the previous g20 summit in indonesia at a ball a year ago. after meeting, president biden and xi jinping spoke for four hours, talking about the war in ukraine, the war in the gas sector, about taiwan, about technology, about the fight against drug trafficking. actually, what. we know that they talked about the war in ukraine, president biden said after the meeting that he exchanged views with sidzimpin on a number of regional and global issues, in particular he talked about russia's refusal to stop the brutal and aggressive war against ukraine and separately talked about the conflict in the gas sector. experts point out that biden tried to refuse china to help russia in the war, and also tried through beijing to influence military aid to russia from north korea. constructive, productive. in general.

these were the words biden used to describe his meetings and negotiations with xi jinping, and the chinese leader, after meeting with biden, later at a dinner with the heads of leading american companies, said china is ready to be a friend and partner of the united states. china has no intention of challenging the united states or taking its place, instead we would like to see a confident, open, ever-growing and prosperous united states, just like the united states. should not bet against china or interfere in china's internal affairs, instead they should welcome a peaceful , stable and prosperous china. and what about biden, it is necessary to ensure that the competition does not turn into a conflict, to lead responsibly this competition, these were the words of joe biden. by the way, when he was asked whether he trusts the chinese leader, the american president replied with the saying: "trust, but verify." but there was one point that could from this meeting

, are you going to continue to call the president the dictator, the term you used before, look, he is, he's a dictator in the sense that he's the man who runs the country when biden made a similar comment in the summer, chinese officials were angry, calling it extremely absurd and irresponsible, it was the same now, the ministry of foreign affairs of china also condemned such a replica of china, biden. such words are extremely incorrect and irresponsible political manipulation. china categorically protests against this. so how? biden's words about the chinese dictator overshadowed such an important meeting and added bitterness to already difficult relations. you will be surprised, but in china , the government did not emphasize this. as the bbc's correspondent in beijing , stephen macdonal, tells about it. it is interesting that one would expect that. there will be some government forces

references or condemnation of joe biden because of his response to the question of whether xi jinping can be considered a dictator, biden was asked, as far as we know, he said yes, but i ... i didn't see any reference to that in the media, and at times when the chinese government wants to to avoid certain things, they order the media controlled by the party to keep quiet about it, and thus they simply avoid covering certain topics. so actually the coverage of this visit has been very positive, for example the state broadcaster sinhu news agency is covering this meeting in adjectives such as scenic background, high-stakes meeting, important meeting, most important two-way. relations, and this is proof that the chinese side wanted a good outcome from this meeting, precisely because xizenping himself needs it , politically, the last 12 months have been terrible for him, he had to fire some ministers that he

appointed, china's economy is also not in the best shape, and people here want to see that xit zingping improves relations between china and the united states, there is hope that this meeting will still lead to increased economic activity between the two countries, both leaders said that there will be more personal exchanges, i think they meant here that there will be business visits between the countries, that students from both countries will travel for exchange, so there is hope that the relations between the countries will be normalized, so i think xi jinping is satisfied with how the meeting went, except for one question and one answer. in general, before the meeting with biden and the chinese state media completely changed their usual anti-american rhetoric, and you know what moment they particularly highlighted, this is a video that shows how the leaders walk side by side, smiling, for xi jinping's diplomatic appearance, such a walk is usual, it adds personality and

sincerity, he also walked like this with the president obama, and with president trump, when he used to come to the united states, the states, which , by the way, reminds us how many years he has been in power in china, the most pressing issue between the united states and china is, of course, taiwan. here is this one island: china views taiwan as a breakaway province that will eventually come back under beijing's control, but taiwan considers itself an independent country with its own constitution and democratically elected leaders. what is the position of the united states diplomatically ? washington adheres to the one china policy, recognizes only one chinese government in beijing, and has official ties with china . but biden previously said that the us would defend taiwan in the event of an attack. taiwan is counting on american support in case of escalation. and returning to meeting between biden and xi jinping near san francisco, a senior

white house official xi jinping assured biden that china was not preparing to invade taiwan and would prefer a peaceful separation, but immediately began talking about what under what conditions china can use force, by the way, if you want to know more about taiwan, i advise you to find this article that was on our website bbc.ua last year: china and taiwan, a simple explanation of the essence of the conflict. but how are the results of biden's meeting generally evaluated and sidzinfina, said the american columnist, jake colvin. of course, all this was planned down to the smallest detail. and no one expected concrete achievements from this meeting or any one big agreement that would allow the parties to get rid of long-standing and difficult problems in relations. we are talking about the protection of copyright - the theft of trade secrets, china continues to complain about the introduction of tariffs in the us

, but what has clearly changed is the tone, and this is really important. today we heard statements about the importance of coexistence and competition. said something like there is enough space on earth for both the united states and china. this is of great importance. if i'm not mistaken, this is xi jinping's first visit to the us in six years, and during that time relations have deteriorated significantly. so this was an opportunity to reboot them. it was a delicate balance for both leaders as they both tried to send a signal of strength but also show a willingness to cooperate, according to president biden. i think president biden had to choose his words especially carefully: on the one hand, to inform china uncomfortable messages for him, and on the other hand , to create a basis for building relationships, and in my opinion, it succeeded.

all week, president biden, as well as key government officials, treasury secretary yellen, and commerce secretary raymondo, clearly emphasized the issue of us national security, our economic policy towards china, above all, it is not subject to discussion, but there have been some changes here, and the first place came the need to maintain an open dialogue, on the one hand, the goal is to avoid incorrect interpretation. action by some party that could potentially lead to conflict. remember how during the cold war there was a direct line of communication between moscow and washington, and on the other hand, as we saw this week, we have the search for opportunities for cooperation between china and the united states. and this visit also includes the issue of trade, an important issue for china. the united states and china are the two largest economies in the world, but if a few years ago americans were seriously worried that china was about to overtake them, now many analysts

doubt that it ever can happen. the seemingly unstoppable engine of the chinese economy suddenly began to slow down. with china's youth unemployment at record highs, a wave of layoffs in the tech sector, and a housing crisis unfolding, it's important to understand why xi jinping needed this visit to the united states. for him, this meeting is not only an opportunity to show off. as a strong, influential leader, and also the opportunity to restore at least the appearance of good relations with the superpower, and even better to increase the volume of trade with america. but that's all well, in conclusion, in the global confrontation between the united states and china, this meeting between biden and xi jinping will not change much, but the fact that they agree, disagree, peacefully and talk about efforts to improve relations is already a significant result. the meeting between the leaders of two of the world's most powerful countries begins with a warm personal greeting, it seems that they both want to improve

relations, diplomatic negotiations are taking place in the same room, at the same table, while the tension between their countries has reached an unprecedented level. i appreciate our conversation, because i consider it most important that you and i clearly understand each other as a leader-leader, without misconceptions or misunderstandings. for such great powers as china, the united states... turning away from each other is not an option. none of the countries is able to influence the system of the other, but conflicts between them definitely have negative consequences for both. on the agenda, the gas and ukraine wars, the united states is demanding that china stay out of both of these conflicts. there are many differences of opinion, in particular on the issue of trade, however, the key issue of the meeting, as always, is taiwan. when democrat politician nancy pelosi visited the island last year, it was heaven. how pissed off the chinese government. because of this, official beijing stopped contact with the american

military. so, when the americans shot down a chinese spy balloon over the sea in february and tried to find out everything, beijing did not answer the phone calls. china is concerned about the united states' military maneuvers near its waters while conducting its own exercises around taiwan. the us wants an open military dialogue to prevent any incident that could potentially turn into a conflict. the last sidzinpins of joe biden met one year and one day ago at a ball. therefore , today's negotiations are already a potential success, even if this meeting does not have substantive results. these furry diplomats have lived at the washington zoo for decades and were recently returned to china by pant. beijing has traditionally given animals to allies as a symbol of friendship, but then pantwit... ruled home, these two states may not be enemies, but they are certainly not friends these days.

panda diplomacy is what china does, it has a monopoly on pandas, it is a chinese national treasure. beijing does not sell them, but rents them out, often for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, to its friends. and after beijing took away the washington pant in the united states, the pomant remained only in atlanta, and they should be returned to china at the beginning of next year. but it seems that warming relations between china and the united states will mean that the pandas will return after all. xijin ping hinted at it. about this you can read more in this article on our website bbc.ua. well, that concludes our issue. more news on our website bbc.ua. and we will see you tomorrow.

greetings, friends, the live broadcast of the tv channel continues, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, from now on weekdays the verdict is broadcast in a two-hour format, i remind you that we work from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m.: watch us, we talk with our experts about the most important things war, about the world, about our victory, about the front, today in the program. the truth about the future, how the government should communicate with society during the war. agents of discord, who incite enmity within the country, and who is responsible for this, dear colleagues. the government of national unity will save ukraine, is it possible to create a parliament without division into

monomajority and opposition. about this and other things. we will talk for the next 45 minutes , today we have as a guest sofia fedina, people 's deputy of ukraine, european solidarity faction, ms. sofia, i congratulate you, it's great to see you on our air. good evening, sergey. solomiya bobrovska, people's deputy ukraine, voice faction, i congratulate you, mrs. solomiya. glory to ukraine, congratulations. glory to the heroes, and oksana savchuk , a non-partisan people's deputy of ukraine, is still to join us, we are waiting for her inclusion. during the program, we conduct friends, we are conducting a poll and we are asking you about whether you are satisfied with the dialogue of society, the authorities, society during the war, yes, no, please vote for us on youtube, as well as by phone lines, i will remind you of the phone numbers that, if you are satisfied with this dialogue with the authorities, call 0800

211 381, if not, 0800 2001-382, all calls to these numbers are free, call us, we need to know your opinion, and we want to hear your opinion in a blitz poll format from our guests, what do you say, ms. sophie, or are you satisfied with the dialogue between the government and society during the war? well, in fact, i don’t think that there is any kind of dialogue at all, it exists on the one hand because of single marathons, crowding and packing ukrainians into cities with some... specific information that in most cases contradicts reality, well, on the other hand on the other hand, dialogue with society also implies dialogue with the opposition, which is also completely absent, and the worst thing is that it is progressing towards the establishment of a dictatorship in the ukrainian state. i personally believe that the unity and dialogue and development of the state can be based, first of all, on

the basis of the truth, on the basis of openness, on the basis of sincere discussion of those problems that exist and are common to... how to solve them? thank you, mrs. sofia, oksana savchuk, non-partisan people's deputy of ukraine, has joined us. ms. oksana, i welcome you and thank you for being you with us today good evening. we conduct a number of polls, we ask our guests, we also ask them, as well as our tv viewers, whether you are satisfied with the dialogue between the authorities and society during the war, what would you say, ms. oksano, if very briefly, because we will talk about it in the following. 45 minutes, well, it is very important that there is no monologue, as today, because it would really be necessary for there to be a dialogue, it is very short, because now only a monologue is produced, and there is no dialogue. thank you, ms. solomiya, what do you think about this? you know, in us it's just that today there will be such a sound of women 's solidarity, don't think that it's about

women's, about solidarity, and not because we are all representatives, not monobolshes or presidents. party, but we certainly have a continuous monologue today, where , unfortunately, neither the society nor the opposition, obviously, and i want to remind you that in reality the opposition can only be political, exclusively, no one is an oppositionist to their state, to of our armed forces, and in these and in these issues we are definitely united, but unfortunately also in these moments, somewhere they put up so many obstacles and argue with political ambitions or certain other things, that actually it is not quite on its own, and we could cope well , unfortunately, in the event of a huge crisis and a huge attack, invasion and muscovites on the northern part of the territory of ukraine, i am very sorry , that today we are so fragmented that, unfortunately, i don't want to say about our failures, but

the whole world is commenting on our unpleasant moments today, and it's all in the face of all of us. only certain politicians who today they lead the state. eh, dear ladies, let's talk about how ukrainians receive information about, including the situation at the front, whether this information is enough for you and whether it gives an idea of ​​the real situation at the front, whether there is some kind of military censorship that does not allow it's talking and we can't talk about it, because our enemy may know much more than is necessary, are there still some things that the government does not tell us about, although in principle, you are right to say that there is a monologue of the government, and there is no dialogue that is, for people to speak, and because people have food... and it hurts, the authorities spoke to them as adults, and not to people who constantly need to say something there, to

distract, not to hurt, lady, lady sofya, what do you think, are there any such issues that the authorities cannot speak to ukrainians about, and that is why the authorities do not speak, but it seems to me that the representatives of the authorities, especially the freelance advisers of the president's office, who do not have the right to say anything at all and to comment and do not have the competence to do so, on the contrary, they say too much, starting with that we have already entered crimea 100-500 times the day before yesterday, we already liberated all the territories two weeks ago, concluding with the fact that, for example, representatives of the authorities are still taking pictures and giving geolocations of certain objects, as a result of which the and for them there is no punishment or responsibility in this regard. in fact, today in ukraine i prefer to observe political censorship. rather than military, because too many incompetent irresponsible people comment on military events, comment on the situation at the front, at the same time to politicians who do not

represent the monomajority, and they shut their mouths and do not invite to a single marathon , they turn off the channels, in particular, you yourself feel espresso direct and the fifth were excluded from the digital airwaves, and today the attacks on the fifth channel also began in the context of additional freelance extraordinary shifts believe, we should have military censorship, because the military should, on the contrary, help beat the enemy, and not expose certain positions, or highlight information that the enemy can use. in fact, we do today, there is no reason not to talk about the political things that are happening. we see on the example of israel, which has essentially been at war since 1948, that today they have no marathons, no political... censorship, no closed sessions of the parliament, unlike ukraine, when people cannot see what the deputies are doing. that the deputies vote and even receive

completely leaked information about what is happening in the verkhovna rada, we can actually today build a successful state based on the truth, and the truth is that that information is presented publicly, unfortunately, which is beneficial only to the authorities, and i will emphasize it again. it contradicts absolute reality by many tens of percent. and the last thing i will say is that our people , unfortunately, on the one hand, still watch a single marathon, although the number of those who trust him is sharply decreasing, but also due to the lack of objective information, people go to social networks, especially anonymous ones, and it is a pity that they take a large part of the information from telegram channels, which are anonymous and, unfortunately, very close to the banking channel, they take... channels, they take information from the youtube channels of so-called military experts who were at the front, probably the last time when there was a war in afghanistan,

i mean the soviet union with afghanistan, and this is a shame, because it is the government that should submit clear and regulated information, systematically highlight what is available, so that people understand that, yes, this is where we are fighting, it will be difficult here, we need to concentrate resources here, we need to strengthen ourselves here, help the armed forces, authorities, deputies, so that we can eliminate certain issues , which will contribute to the development, security and defense of the ukrainian state. unfortunately, no one wants to talk about it today, even in government offices. perhaps one of the most urgent issues that the authorities do not talk about, or avoids talking about, is the number of dead in ukraine. volunteers, activists of the book of remembrance community counted the number of dead ukrainian soldiers, initially in the great war, that is, at least 30,000 people, these volunteers say , they made statistics, and which indicates

that among the dead there are already confirmed 24,500 killed or dead, whose names are known 15,000 missing, 3,400 wounded. well, of course, we know that the publication time wrote about the fact that on the ukrainian side there were about 100,000 dead, according to the economy , since november 13, the figures were made public and they talked about 70,000 killed and 120,000 wounded, this is the database of the book of memory of the fallen for ukraine, this book also contains statistics on the daily deaths, this is information published in the press in the ukrainian weekly, so on february 24, 22 , 203 people died in one day, it is

referring to defenders of ukraine. march 18 of the same year 193 february 26 are the most tragic days 182 march 7 138 march 14 133 and so on. why do you think, ms. solomia, we don't have more or less accurate figures regarding the dead, because it is very important for the relatives and friends of those who lost people and their loved ones, and it is also very important for society that society understands at what price we are given this victory, you know, this question is very active, and probably there will be few discussions to find the right solution, and surely there is logic somewhere in something i understand that the nature of the martial law is not to announce the number of dead, because it is very painful, a thing and actually a figure that we can use, in particular and why not, the federation,

yes, when we hear a lot today about the possibility of frozen situations , maybe negotiations, maybe there are some other scenarios, and what is the point of fighting when you only have dead people, and that is, it was an infinite number of scenarios that can be played with this and pressured on this and that, and this is a very painful point for every seven well, that's why i somehow accept this logic and i do not tolerate and do not accept it the figures given by the united nations, wagons, time, economy, who are from abroad, because they mostly have everything, sanitary losses, deaths and civilians, everything is somehow mixed up in such a whole heap, and it seems to me that we cannot accurately even mariupol today to tell the final number of both civilians and military, because let's be honest that 15 thousand of our missing are missing, we have to understand from the experience of a ten-year war, unfortunately, that there will be a large number of dead people and there will be talk

of returning the bodies on which also the russians do business, and this is also a very complicated, extremely complicated topic for ukraine , and it gives a huge field for various manipulations, i would really like that we also paid more attention to the schemes and methods of returning our military prisoners, by the way, today we also we don't mention them much, but this is a serious number of not only the defenders of mariupol, but also fighters, starting from the end of february and up to today, therefore, we even touch on the children and the return of the children home to ukraine, how they are renamed, how they are buried in boarding schools, as they are completely, well, destroyed, that's it such a total soviet kagibi scheme, destruction, identity and the ukrainian gene and the ukrainian nation, because this is actually an act

of genocide, what is done to children. therefore, these are very sensitive moments, very painful topics, they are actually quite dual, and i am not sure that today the truth is worth announcing, this number, we have a problem with mobilization, by the way, in particular, those factors that can demotivate, or be the basis for such informational and psychological operations primarily of the russian federation, they can be used, it seems to me that these are very sacred things, and this is what ukraine has to honor, remember, provide, pay, it should be all protection for families, but, and it should be huge work, but in general, with the number, probably, i would also wait until the end, thank you, ms. oksana, in israel, since the start of the hamas war against israel, statistics are given every day, how many soldiers

died, they say. about these soldiers, well, they honor, of course, there are probably different numbers, of a different order, a different scale, a different one war, we have a full-scale war, of course, according to you, there is a lack of accurate information about it, whether it affects people, that is , maybe we have already passed the period when we were protected there from some numbers, from some facts, that is, for this one year and nine months, we see. the bridge of the city was destroyed, we know what happened in the east, we know what happened in buch, we know that many people died in mariupol, for sure, it is not known how many more, or whether it is only related to this, that we cannot be sure to establish, these quantities, we, well, carefully we talk about it, and the government tries to tell us so.