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this is a positional war, it is definitely not in our interests, because economically, geographically and demographically, we are much inferior to russia. i do not think that very many ukrainians follow the publications of the economist or bloomberg, they may read reprints of it in our press, although i also doubt it, but i wonder, mr. andriy, why we learn such, openly sobering, sobering some forecasts, news from the foreign press, but, but not from ours, not from the first source, why, why are we not being prepared for some such reality about what is this, for a long time, well, from valery zaluzhny, we read the article, and here i hope that all ukrainians have already noticed it, even though it was published.
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all the same, then fight not yermak and not zelenskyi, well, they won’t go with machine guns, well, i don’t know what will happen at the very end, and then, i think that this is the very end, they will meet somewhere giving lectures in oxford about how they lost the war, and it was up to the ukrainian people to fight, and therefore the ukrainian people have the right to know more or less the real situation, but now look at what is happening, for example, in the congress, they tied, that's what daria koliniuk is writing about now, they actually tied the decision to finance the future of ukraine. to the adoption , the republicans tied to the resolution on financing the construction of a wall around mexico. biden has said that he will never sign that, so that means we're probably going to have funding restored next year at best, so we're going to have a few months ahead of us without american aid, without american funding, like, what would our plan be? well, look, this
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the issue is so political, frankly speaking, well, i don’t have such a complete idea, but i am concentrating on military issues, here i can truly tell you that this is a positional war with limited resources, and it is not to our benefit, that’s for sure, secondly , well, as for the style of providing such information to the population, well, i think that , well, you understand, until 1991, ukraine was part of the soviet empire, in order to , well, get rid of these, let's say, this soviet management, proof information, it will take time, but now you have us, yes, unfortunately, it is so, here, we have certain sprouts of the fact that information, it is, well, through independent mass media.
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it is really proven much faster and it is much, well, let's say more objective, but now , there are such, i think, objective positions, i think that after a certain time, indeed, well, we also have state mass media, rather, state eyes, so the means of proving information will be more operational, although i will tell you that when the iraq war was going on, i remember, at that time, i was studying in the united states america, and all the first news, on the battlefield of the iraq war, they came from the cnn channel, that is, they were not official messages from the white house, or i don't know, the pentagon, but these were correspondents from the cnn company, who
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were at the places of the events, and they... the events, they actually broadcast everything online, i think with the development of this, i think it is in ukraine, but i can say for sure that the situation with this is much, much differs from, well, for example, the russian federation or belarus, well, if we will to compare ourselves with them, it is clear that everything is much better here, but these are not the ones, not the models that should be modeled after, thank you, mr. andriy, andriy ryzhenko, the first-rank reserve of the navy of the armed forces of ukraine was with us on yazku, we are going to take a short break, then we will come back and talk about israel, we will talk with sergey danilov, deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies, stay with us. oh, there are no potatoes, you will bring them, already, something has caught my back. i remind you, the match with dr. tice's live bone and again. you get up for work, ointment with comfrey,
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on espresso. we're back, we're on the air, dear. now we will talk about israel and what is happening there, also about the gas sector , serhii danylo, deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies, we are in touch, i am already sir, good afternoon, good afternoon, can you hear us, mr. serhiy , yes, we hear you too actually, what is the latest news from israel, what, what now, what is the next special operation? wait, what are the last ones, the cleaning is going on, or rather the hospital itself, the upper part , the israel defense forces is there, now the question is what to do with the underground bunker, which is located under the shifa hospital, where it is actually
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expected that sinwar is there, the hostages are there, and now a plan is being drawn up, how to get out, some things are going on, very intense negotiations are going on until yesterday, there, or rather, the day before yesterday evening, the leadership, this is the military, the leadership of hamas said that it comes out of the negotiations completely, and the qataris could not leave, could not get a call, relatively speaking, to yahi sinvar, who is actually running the gas there now with all these hostilities, but today there is already a message that israel is ready to make some concessions for the sake of that all the hostages be released, well, the situation with the hostages, it will be used by hamas to try to stop the offensive operation, in general, this offensive has already gone through many stages, which were marked there, probably also some red lines,
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other arab countries and neighbors said about it that there would be consequences, but now it seems that this military operation has a chance to end without turning into a major war, and here, too, several factors contributed to exactly this scenario, well, in addition to the powerful even the excess... of the american military presence, this is on the one hand, in principle , relatively successful, the speed with which the israel defense forces is advancing in the gaza sector, well, there was no certainty that they would be able to cut there, for example, the way they they cut into sectors to wean off gas, seize ports, cut off, isolate, now isolate and clean every quarter, this is quite a big city, this is on the one hand, but you know, a regional war is still possible, because in israel now there are many voices that
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hezbollah is active , but i see another thing, that to keep a very large group of troops in the north, in the north israel now keeps more than in the gaza sector, the military, to keep them there for a long time is impossible, not for economic reasons in view of the state of the army, the army that is standing , does nothing, begins to er, well, loses its fighting capacity, let’s say so, and in israel, i think, netanyahu is tempted to take the chance and, on the contrary , provoke hizbullah to start hostilities, and together with hamas to solve the issue of hizbullah in the south of lebanon, at least up to latakia , to the river in order to throw away hisbola from the south of lebanon, so that the lebanese army could enter there, mr. serhiu, please tell me, this is what
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happened to the hamas tunnel in the hospital, this is some kind of cynicism, as we remember how they said there would be, at first the children, women and children, it was the russians who told us that we were let's cover ourselves with women and children, in fact, that's what they did, and this too, we also see a very similar one, and this is a children's center that was built by the united states in 2019 in the city of gaza, and there was also a whole bunker under it , where they even held the same hostages, it looks like that cover-up by peaceful people, and the fact that it was discovered, it affects these pro-khamas sentiments in the whole world, well, i don't think that it affects, because well, these pro-khamas or about the palestinians there, well , some of them are not pro-khamas, but
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pro-palestinian speeches, and some of them are simply anti-western and the material that will be found is represented by both the dismissal and the appeal , for example, by israeli feminists to feminist organizations in europe, in the united states, which now remain unanswered, it will not happen, because part of these protests, not everyone there, they are very diverse, in fact, part of their protests is a protest against the west, against the place where you live alone, and therefore such findings will not affect the mood and the slogans that will be used at these rallies, this it's very similar to those ukrainians who live in ukraine, but love russia terribly, somewhere you can pack your things and go to the country you protect, after all, and live there.
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actually, i already subscribe to the polish edition, i read it today, and there, in particular, one of the polish intellectuals recently wrote that she is really horrified, she is shocked by the level of nationalism that has engulfed israel, and she writes about the fact that it is terrible to see slogans with which , for example, people sometimes come out on the street in support of the actions of the government there, unity, actions... the tzahal of the israeli army in the palestinian territories, where, for example, you can find the slogans, a good arab is a dead arab, and of course, it doesn't matter here...' you correlate with our situation, and and and and this too, this is this is also some, some some certain , certain history, where where we are and where the western world is, that is, how sober it is, because today in our country, we talked about the fact that in in kherson, for example, even an international mission, doctors without borders left a hospital operating in the city, after
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shelling of the hospital, how many people think that it is dangerous for them to stay there, but i don't... see that any student campuses, now in western europe or the united states , are shaken and students jump out with the slogan, stop shelling the hospitals in kherson, russians, and with protests, they threw out trash, for example, teachers of russian literature along with portraits of pushkin and there , i don’t know who else is dostoevsky and fat, and why this is not happening, why there is absolutely no such case, where is our account, why our lives don't matter? ukrainian lives matter? yes, yes, this question is heard in many similar conflicts, and what is important for us here, the war in the middle east, the war in gas, turned out to be much closer for europeans and
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americans than russian aggression against ukraine, it is some kind of... . it tugs at some of their strings and they take it very personally, it's a nearby war , in the middle east outside the west, no, it 's kind of exciting, that can activate, the receptors that are responsible for emotions, and that's a big difference, yes we saw protests last year that expressed solidarity with ukraine, but they were not nearly as massive as the pro-israeli or pro-palestinian rallies that are taking place, and there has never been an anti-ukraine rally that aggressively attacked them rushed, there were individual cases where the russian diaspora in
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europe or in the states tried to insult our friends and ukrainians. who went to these actions, but there was no such confrontation, which sometimes resembles a state of civil war in the states or in some european cities, and even here, what is important for ukraine to understand, along with this wave of support, is also hamas, but there i emphasize, not everything there is pro-hamas, it is simply about palestine, but it is simply anti-western, and it is really starting to grow, is the right wing, and this right wing may not be very good for ukraine, what the israeli press is talking about now, about how good orbán is, about the fact that hungary is one of the few to vote in support of israel, about the fact that, significantly better for
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israel's vote, which is a bit surprising it looked, it didn't even work out, yes, about what. biden is bad, and trump is the solution, that lee pepin has now led pro-israel rallies in europe, and this, and the uprising against the background of pro-palestinian protests, the crystallization of this, the right course, the right wing of the political spectrum, which is mostly also anti-ukrainian. this is a trend that must be followed in order not to fall into these millstones of someone else's war. and what do you think, where do the legs of the one who writes the israeli press come from? how from where, well, le pen leads now, le pen leads all the actions in support of israel, now madame le pen, who has
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every chance to become president, and on this she completely abandoned anti-semitic rhetoric. speaks with the usual anti-immigrant speeches and in support of israel and the same is now being done by all the right-wing in europe, but what are the right-wing ones who were the ones who were not given a hand, i will not be surprised if they are joined by the alternative for germany and that's it those right-wingers who will quite possibly be in favor of severing relations with russia, for example, er, this whole story is interesting, in fact, on the one hand, we understand that israel is a part of western civilization, and for sure, this is already a good argument for why we support israel, because it is a democracy, because it is a country that is part of this civilization, until
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to which we hope we will belong, on the other hand, why the russian federation is evaluated in such a way remains a mystery to me, however, now we have a difficult situation in the united states, i want to broaden the focus a little and say that as far as i understand , we now we have, we may have a big break in funding, let us remind you that we had about 10 billion dollars of funding literally for a month and this allowed us to go through the burden of the war quite painlessly, at least in the economic sense, right now i am reading the same daria kaletnyk from the anti- corruption center , which writes that we can now wait until january 17, at least next year. freeze aid consideration in congress, as it is also now tied to funding for the wall on the border with mexico and
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reducing funding for the tax of the us administration, which, according to kalynyuk, is political suicide for biden, especially on the eve of the elections, and therefore, in general , the prospects for the restoration of funding are becoming quite vague, mr. serhiy, or for us. do we have a plan b, do you think europe will be able to compensate now for the weakening and such dysfunctionality of, let's say, the united states to a certain extent. i'm not an american, it's hard for me to say whether we have any plan on how to work with, congress, with the american government, with the republicans, how to overcome, it is obvious that the attempt to tie ukraine into one package , well, it is not successful, at least for now, it is that, looking from this perspective, there was hope that it
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would give an opportunity to push ukrainian interests, however, as we see, at least for now the situation is not so clear-cut, maybe it will be possible at the next stage, and israel seems to be able to manage more or less without this package, as it looks now, which is a little... not even playing in our favor, well, but this is already such a tactical history er, military aid, by the way, goes to israel without any package , and it is quite large, and they do not talk about it in particular, but the unprecedented operation of transferring weapons and equipment of the united states to israel, there, well, some colossal number of large transport planes were involved, it has already took place, and the short-term bases in cyprus, for example, in malta, where the nearest jump is, there , too, enough has been accumulated, or in sicily,
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nato bases, stocks have already been accumulated, this is the case for example, in ukraine, in israel, yes, that is, hamas is a bigger threat to them than russia, or israel is a more important ally, yes, the second is very correct. i say, these are indigenous interests, well, there are, they say, 80 million voters in the united states who consider themselves christians, adventists, who consider it a holy land, and accordingly will always vote for those politicians who will defend the interests of israel, but these politicians , whom they choose, they are the same, adventists, and they think the same, it is theirs, it is their sacred. therefore, it must be understood from the very beginning at the beginning, i watched how
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the israelis reacted to the combination with ukraine, well, there was no enthusiasm, no, there was definitely no approval, they looked, well, so skeptically, at this proposal by biden, mr. sergey, thank you for the explanation, serhii danilov, deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies was from we thank our viewers for staying with us, we still have one more hour of the marathon ahead of us, volodymyr yatrovych, historian , publicist, people's deputy of ukraine, illina chechennina, an art viewer, with whom we will talk about ukrainian series, which dulling, all this will come later, stay with us. attention, an incredible novelty from unbox tv, super warm and very comfortable boots alaska style is perfect. fit, water-repellent material and a feeling of warmth even in 30-degree frost. alaska style boots have a universal design and practical black color. therefore, they will fit both men
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