[000:00:00;00] pages on social networks, and in particular on youtube and facebook platforms and take part in our vote , today we ask you about whether you are satisfied with the dialogue between the government and society during the war, yes, no, on youtube there are quite simply options, yes no choose, and the third option is to write a comment under this video, of course, write, we are interested to know your opinion, and those who are watching us now, on tv, on tv, you can call us on 0800 211-381 if you are satisfied with the dialogue power with society, and if not, 0800-211-382. call, all calls to these numbers are free. next, we have a political expert, people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation volodymyr tsybulko. mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast, much, much,

glory to the heroes, we expected a lot from the meeting. xi jinping with biden or rather biden with xi jinping this meeting has ended, we know that biden described his meeting as constructive and productive, noting that the leaders reached agreements, including restoration of military ties and joint efforts in the fight against drugs, they also talked about ukraine, and in this case, what biden said, biden said that they would like china not to supply russia with weapons, not to arm russia, but the ministry of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china already after the end of the negotiations and after what biden said said that their policy towards ukraine is consistent and that it will not change, well, it means that they are for peace and for everyone to find understanding, as

you think, behind the scenes... of what we are have you seen whether xi jinping should convince putin to withdraw his troops from ukraine, or at least end the war and move towards a conditional, at least peace, well, one must understand china's dependence on the united states, the greater this will be addiction, the more active. will try to put pressure on russia, because in general , the flow of finances is as follows: uh, the negative balance of us trade with china is 300 or 350 million dollars, that is , china receives 350 billion from trade with the us, then it trades with russia and the pose is negative

china's balance in trade with russia is, in my opinion, 30.35 million dollars, that is, russia receives from china 30-35 billion dollars, which it can easily spend on weapons, and on everything else, and the strangest thing is that, in fact, support, well, the negative balance in trade, plus the purchase of goods critical for russia, i.e. hydrocarbons, is actually a subsidy to russia and russia's aggression, therefore. it is only worth mentioning that without the will of beijing, neither iran nor north korea would be likely to supply anything from weapons to the russian federation, so china is here, cunning, but now, in my opinion, has matured a situation where china's dependence on the us is becoming too acute.

first of all, i want to remind you that the united states, joseph biden , ordered to limit access to microcircuits and chips on the territory of china, with a restriction on the supply of chips . russia is producing its own weapons, but this has significantly affected chinese industry, and most importantly: what about china against the background of the collapse of these construction pyramids, which in many provinces of china were the basis of their economy, and these pyramids began to fall, and to cause enormous damage to the chinese economy, accordingly, now some american investors are beginning to undermine and withdraw funds from america and not just funds to withdraw production, for example, the same

apple, well, iphone, which they already produce on the territory india, in my opinion, 15 % of its production, and now on the territory of india... vietnam is starting to massively relocate other production from china, and china understands this, and if they do not stop this, then the tendency to slow down the chinese economy will begin, becoming a landslide, it throws hundreds of young people into the streets, especially this one, well, this is industrial, industrial bio-robots, people under the age of 35, among them mass without... beating, which potentially makes an explosive street, explosive protests, and china, well, for china, any street protests are always expensive, tiananmen-men

is too etched in the memory of the beijing, communist authorities , by the way, no matter how much biden and xi jinping praised each other there, biden still couldn't help himself even after the negotiations with the leader china... again called him a dictator, and in beijing they criticized such a statement, because they wanted to present it as a victory for the chinese leader and chinese diplomacy, let's see this rote brawl. yes, he is a dictator in the sense that he rules a communist country whose form of government is completely different from ours. such statements are extremely incorrect and irresponsible political manipulations, against which china strongly opposes, it must be emphasized that there will always be those who will try to sow discord and cause harm sino-american relations, but their

attempts will not succeed. here is biden, he, he always characterizes the leaders of other countries quite accurately, do you remember when he was asked if he considered vladimir putin a murderer, it was precisely in april 2020 of the first year, he said: yes, i consider putin a murderer, do you consider xi jinping to be a dictator, yes , he is a dictator, i have met him, but he is a dictator , does it somehow affect xi jinping's desire, his proposals to the president, the united states of america to take responsibility for everything humanity, as he said, that is, in fact, xi jinping suggested to biden to divide the world, or spheres of influence of the world and how to take responsibility for humanity, and is there a place for putin in the middle of this division, or does he look at all moscow against the background of two elephants?

the fact is that putin's dependence on china is becoming more and more impressive, and when putin tries to build a political triangle between washington and moscow, it causes such an uproar, both in washington and in beijing, because except for nuclear weapons, in principle no nothing, what, no trump cards putin has no, especially since russia's economy is 1/10th that of the chinese economy and one , perhaps, 15th that of the american economy, but the point is different, the point is that sish deliberately builds the field, the pole is dictatorial, why does everyone work mainly with dictatorships . although let's recall that in the decade of one belt and one road, for example, orban appeared from europe, there were two leaders there, this is uchich, the president of serbia and orban, orban has long been

considered as such, a european misunderstanding, well, it is obvious that the leader hungary pulls around native peoples, because the closest to the hungarians ...' peoples are, well, the twin brothers are the khanty and the mantsi, it should be reminded, so, well , for the record, we can say that in the soviet union, the khanty-mansi autonomous district was very often called the khokhlomansi district, that is, whatever cool, but you will have to live next door to the ukrainians one way or another. as for the dictatorship , it seems to me that china is in such a ... that it can be called whatever the chinese government wants, and china will flow around, but it will

smile and hold on to the economic case, because in the event of a collapse of the economy, hundreds of millions of chinese will be on the streets, hundreds of millions, this means that the compta is completely failing its entire doctrine on increasing consumption, we saw what terror china introduced during the covid, and i still want to remind you of this, that biden got away with so much. because, for example, trump actually called, well , called on the world to hang all responsibility for covid on china and demand compensation, i want to remind you that such a trumpist, vivek, ramaswamy, who participates in debates, candidates, republicans, he repeats

trump's thesis that china has to pay humanity for covid, so uh, with this covid stamp, it seems to me that it should behave very, very carefully and not irritate the civilized world, because it follows the chinese, more precisely, the american technologies and american companies , who are leaving china, european technologies, in particular, german and french mechanical engineering, and everything else, may also turn away from china. conventionally speaking, if both france and germany turn away from china, from active economic cooperation and are starting to transfer their production to the territory of india, and i want, well, referring to european experts , to remind you that germany and several other countries are quite actively starting to... transfer

the metallurgical complex to india, so it is such a fun, fun cycle, at first mital bought out metallurgical plants in ukraine, and now europe is buying up metallurgical plants in india, well, times change, it was metal, when 20 years ago it bought out a metallurgical plant in kryvyi rih, just continuing the topic, or concluding... the subject of both biden and xi jinping, xi jinping said that he will return the pandas that were taken away, the chinese pandas, well, this is the kind of gift that the leader of china gives to those whom he trusts, and such a gesture, a chinese gesture, in in 2019, he presented these pandas in the moscow zoo to putin, and the pandas were in the zoo in washington for a very long time and when relations between and the united states of america, the chinese just

took those pandas and said that's it, and now xi jinping has said that his country has come to the united states, the new pandas and called them ambassadors of friendship between the chinese and american peoples, so i understand that xi jinping just poked this dictator and said that we will still be friends and share together, the world, will we have any, well after all, we will see the consequences of this meeting, or if it will be, then in some distant perspective, because china also needs to understand what to do next with putin and how you feel about the war with ukraine, because this position , which they occupied on february 24, 23 , that we have 12 points, we have our own vision of what is happening in ukraine , but there is no clear demand for russia to leave the territory of the ukrainian state, and this is a minus for us and a minus... for china, because their position

means that they support what putin is doing, well , a direct signal of a change in china's policy will be the visit of volodymyr zelenskyi to beijing, if such a visit takes place, it will be a direct symbol of the fact that china has changed its policy, i want to remind you that even during the war, it was the main buyer of ukrainian grain during this grain season. .. agreement remained china, he in my opinion, 15% of the grain was taken, in general, the most among all the countries that consume ukrainian grain, even during the war, but this is the same, well, the duplicity of china, on the one hand, it buys ukrainian grain, and on the other hand, it arms putin, so what? to relations, the usa and china, here for biden it is very important that the republicans all the time reproached the democrats and

biden personally that he does not oppose china in any way, because the confrontation with china seemed like a big war, for the sake of which it is necessary to side with russia, well this absolutely utopian ideas, so this meeting, first of all , freed biden's hands in a certain way, because what are the practical results for the parties. states, the first is the restoration of the communication line, the so-called nuclear line, that is, well, the nuclear warning system. a telephone line or a communication system in case of nuclear danger is a consultation tool that existed and china got out of it in a certain way, by the way, such a communication line also exists with kyiv, this is from the time when ukraine was a nuclear

state, and the next important thing is this drugs, i.e. transited from china through mexico to the territory. the usa has a large amount of fentanyl, it is a very synthetic heroin, which, well, maimed up to 50,000 and killed up to 50,000 american citizens, this is also a direct result, china is trying to strictly control the traffic of this fentanyl, and it seems to me that biden is just now for the election has a certain set, for certain... on the part of the us, on the part of china, that china will not arrange any unpleasant surprises in an election year for the us, well , it is clear that china hopes for at least slowing down the outflow of american capital

from the territory of the united states, and let me remind you that china still has one more tool, china holds the largest among others, well, among countries. the world share of the american debt, it is somewhere over 2 trillion dollars, this is a very serious amount, which, well, although china itself is credited in general, almost for 100-plus trillion, so here everything is balanced completely differently, but the most important thing for china is access to the american market, so that this sales market somehow supports jobs in china, for biden, this is a good signal, because cheap chinese products against the background of the growth of the american economy will somewhat affect the quality of life of the poorest classes in the united states, and it seems to me that these are exactly the voters of biden,

who, well, already feel a certain economic stabilization and growth in the number of jobs , and now this one will affect... one more thing, mr. volodymyr, one more event of this day, ihor kolomoisky will still remain behind bars until december 2 and with a deposit or bond amounting to almost 4 billion hryvnias, i.e. kolomoisky despite still did not get out of sizo, this week oleksandr dubinsky, who collaborated with odina, who was considered one of those who dragged into power for a very long time, ihor kolomoiskyi, sat down in sizo, let's hear what kolomoiskyi said about his trial and the verdict to the court, this case is not simply falsified and

fabricated, it is simply invented and highly publicized, that is, in fact, this case could not have existed at all, if someone did not want it very much. i think that both dubinsky and kolomoisky in 2019 could not even imagine that in 2023 they would be sitting especially under president zelensky, can we assume that dubinsky and kolomoisky sat down in sizo when, on the one hand , zelensky went to the united states of america for the un general assembly, and on the other hand, when yarmak went to the united states of america, it somehow happened so synchronously , that the first sat down when zelensky flew to washington, and the second when yarmak flew there, well, this dependence is symbolic, but in fact, the united states opened, or rather, sanctioned the same dubinsky

quite a long time ago, i am not talking about relations american famida with kolomoiskyi, they, she, this relationship is very sad, the american famida is looking for him... and the fact that he is in the ukrainian pre-trial detention center is, in fact, the protection of kolomoisky from the american famida and not only, but from , for example, naboo, where are the cases on naboo, if kolomoiskyi now assures the court that he is being held in a pre-trial detention center for a far-fetched made-up case, then there are not entirely uninvented cases in naboo, and kolomiskyi does not think that in the event of an exit of these cases, which beb and sbu, formed against him, he will not get into labeta, nabu. and in the case of nabu, well, for example, the bail can

increase three times, four times, five times, let me remind you that there is still a trial in london, regarding the private bank, and now, uh, the supreme court of ukraine, for example , recognized the case against kolomoiskyi, the case of the private bank, and the nationalization of the private bank as absolutely legal, that is, there are a lot of factors that coincide and it is not known who is hiding from which agency now in ukrainian detention centers, thank you, mr. volodymyr, it was volodymyr tsibulko, political expert, people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube and facebook. like this video, subscribe to our channels and you will have more information from telecananaluso, well, in addition

, we conduct a survey during the program, we ask you about whether you are satisfied with the dialogue between the government and society during the war, yes no, quite simply in vote on youtube, by phone the lines you see now it can be voted by those people who have a smartphone and dial these two numbers, so if you're happy. dialogue between the government and society 0800-211-381 no, call 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we have journalist roman tsimbalyuk in touch. roman, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on the air. hello, serhiy. i will immediately say to those who are watching us now on youtube, be sure to subscribe to roman tsimbalyuk's youtube channel, he is a millionaire blogger. a person who has more than a million followers, and you can become his two million followers, or i think

roman already has 300 million, well, i can't say for sure, but roman gives quick, quick comments and very quickly comments on the events that are happening and in ukraine and in russia, so i invite you to subscribe, and how about a person who has much more information than valeria. levey, who has been talking here for two weeks in various interviews, about the fact that putin is dead, putin is a freezer, putin will prevail, somewhere out there, and everything else, i will ask you, as a person who, unlike valery solovya, saw putin alive, and can say for sure that in this situation, on the screen, we see that putin, or not that putin, and with what are these manipulations connected with, he died, he didn't die, will he lie next to lenin or will he find a place next to brezhnev somewhere, why is this being thrown into our

information space and why is this topic of putin's death, potential death or real death floating around? yesterday, i had a broadcast on one of the ukrainian channels with valery soloviev, me there he said very simply: well, first of all, we don’t care, let’s say this, whether he died or not , the politics of ukraine will not change in any way from this, and the efforts made by the ukrainian people to ensure their security and destroy the russian tyrants, they will be the same, this is the first and foremost, that people like to bury putin, well, i understand that perfectly, this is a topic that involves a lot of likes, i don't know, the element of hype and so on and so on, i all these ideas, even that there are doubles, triples, this,

everything sounds, of course, not bad, and in principle we can spread this idea that the tsar is not real, or not a tsar, but the reality is this, these are all the experts who say that he has a forehead there, here he has this one, there he has a little one, those who are at least a little bit have come across television, they know very well that depending on how you are lit, for example, what kind of light will be, a person can look completely different, i think, sergey, you will support me, everyone who was in the studios there and knows everything very well, there are such even professional jargonisms, which is important not how they will bury you, but how they will illuminate you, because the light can add plus 10, plus 15 years, or subtract, respectively, you understand what i'm talking about. therefore , these stories, well, you see, here, ukrainians

like to talk about this topic, on the one hand, this thesis is broadcast exclusively. one person, valery salavey, who is in moscow and is allowed to bury putin, maybe someone wants to draw attention to another object, maybe they just want to bring this situation to the point of absurdity, which they say, well, how much can be said about it, did he die or not, but i just want to emphasize, if we are serious, that there is one criterion, this is the evidence base, all the statements of the nightingale, no matter how they are to us, because no, they are completely without evidence, well, either, or there is a corpse, or there is no corpse, if there is one, it is there, it must be shown or buried , that’s right, well, first of all, show it, it even suits us, let it be in the freezer, but there is no freezer, and there is no corpse, that is, the war goes on its own way , the way it goes in its turn,

the situation develops there, in the part of our... external partners in its own way, life continues, well, the only thing you see is in the media space, well, this topic is quite like that, lively, but you really should have asked valery dmitriyovich yesterday if he has any evidence, i mean selavya, if he has any evidence , that he is alive, that it is him, and not his double or triple, because everything can be reduced to complete absurdity, but again, my thesis is this, russian bombs kill us regardless of whether he is there or not, and the most important thing is the change of power in moscow, well , it will probably happen someday, because it will die anyway, and then the salavi will say, i warned, well, this is not a drawback of the fact that the approach of the russian state will be different, with a high probability that the power will be

transferred to the same political elites who are currently ruling there and they will bend this line and further, at least it is necessary to proceed from this , and we'll see there, it's clear that any movements there in the kremlin, they open a certain window of opportunity, but again, this is not a guarantee, so, well, i just looked, ah, videos, viewing videos about funerals sweat, so much... then hundreds of thousands, youtube, he he is not lying anymore, he really records, he just counts the number of people who clicked on it, well , those who work on youtube, they also want to live and eat, bread and butter, i understand this , because i myself am well, by the way, regarding

the death of putin, i always say that he has long since died for ukrainians. and this is not news, that is, not even from 2014, but i, as a person, he died, that is, he is a being, simply for us this person does not exist, at the same time, the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, kyrylo bodanov, says that in there is hope for 2025 that this year will be a turning point for russia, because there will be internal, systemic destructive changes in russia, well, he says that this is not a forecast and that this is an expectation, do you now see these mechanisms, or these mechanisms, as unexpected things can always happen in russia, this also happens quite often in russia, when there is some merciless rebellion that destroys everything there, or is there any reason to say that this society can become different, some group of people with there will be some processes

that the kremlin will not be able to control, well for example, some pogroms that they simply will not control, well, it is out of the area to wait for this black swan, something so unexpected, well, you know, either yes or no, well, in fact , putin is either dead or not, that’s it, guesswork zhizhi, or how to guess, a paddle on the river, you understand, many things that are formulated here and now and to say that there will be some changes, in the 25th year, quite possibly, i want to say, moreover, that i have repeatedly heard, don't ask why i heard it, well , nevertheless, people who, well, how, shows mine