do you associate it with a certain time and place and with certain events in the global world and in general, do you think it is a working proposal on the table? well, if possible, i just appreciate that this is an absolutely unreal thing, for several reasons, the first moment, the most important , the nuclear factor did not go anywhere, and how did they not close the sky to us last year, did not shoot down missiles, did not shoot at russian planes, and as for missiles, this will not happen either, this year and accordingly they will not give us, let's say, membership in nato, part of our territory the second point, such nonsense was considered by the germans before they reunified, i.e. united, and the germans were ready to make concessions to gorbachev in this sense, the americans said, it is impossible to divide security, there can be no frg, so in nato, east germany is yours will not be in nato, so this is the second moment, the third moment , let's imagine, we have not the second, we are already, today mr. orban from... will definitely not vote for such

things, yes, i understand that you can find leverage on him influence, but overall, i don't think even that the germans don't want to risk escalation, not even nuclear with the russian federation, so it doesn't work, as to why it's happening, of course, that the waves are, according to what's happening on the battlefield, and you remember let's just say, the voice was raised by zaluzhnov's article, they interpreted it there from the headline without reading that he never once used a dead end, but they said, well, you see, they can't do anything, then surely diplomacy, that's one story, second story let's see now objectively, what are our limitations, now we see that the house of representatives is blocking, we have been allocated aid, i hope that after senkiv, yes, it will happen, the second point, november next year , the elections in the united states, if someone other than biden comes and not niki gelli, so there is

a probability that we will be moved and we will be put to perifacts, that there will be no help. the europeans will not drag out this war, not financial, yes, not anything else, then, of course, we need to see what is happening in russia, mobilization is happening, i mean economy, yes, they have the resources, it’s a pity that the sanctions are painful, but they don’t work as planned, and russia still has the opportunity to wage such a war for a few more years, therefore , putting these things together, we can understand for ourselves that our theory victory, it is possible to focus on actually next year with an eye on the elections in the united states, but there may still be gray and black swans, let's imagine, the russians let's go without swans, we don't count on them, wait, well, one didn't fly to moscow, against us, i mean, imagine, now something is being measured in israel, that is is no longer a problem, but the russians control the sahel and control several more, let's say, regions in africa in the near future can

create certain, let's say, problems, and then these refugees will run to europe, and remember 2015, when angela merkel's government got a little scratched thanks million syrian refugees who got to the european union, more precisely to germany, so there is also a black and gray swan for us, let's hope that we will have a white swan with mr. putin, that he will roll around, but that's not part of the strategy. we take all this shit together with the lions and this henhouse, and we say, here we are in such conditions, well, we have nothing left from the point of view of diplomacy , it is impossible to solve with russia, we know all this, but let's even look at this, japan has to say and speak to the temporarily occupied , what will happen if all this falls on us, and i lost the thread, what will fall on us, because about the swans, of course, we rejected them, right? migrants are flying,

lack of weapons is flying, incapacity is flying , i’m sorry for your provocation, i’ll imagine a scenario of battles, my god, it’s always necessary, listen, everyone the generals at the front are talking about the worst, first, the worst scenario , let's talk honestly with the people about the worst scenario for ourselves, but those who are watching us are doing such a thought experiment, although we will understand that this is not a purely real experiment. some, if we let everyone there, some trump, in the states, some, yes, let’s say, some swans, gray, black, there afro-swans fly to us there, yes, it’s unpleasant, really, we are told there that in nato, they don't accept us completely , they don't take us in any way, and so on, will this reduce the number of ukrainians the desire to fight, to liberate our territories, and somehow, god forbid, we suddenly have the desire to surrender completely to putin, to wash off, does this reduce the desire of ukrainians

to fight with what, what to fight, what to fight for, before all europeans, europeans , especially our closest neighbors, and thanks to britain and germany, now they will definitely... help us, that is, i have no doubts here and the change of governments there or hardly anything, the second point, it depends on us, let's times, we potentially even we can, well, god forbid we lose american support, but europe has already woken up and joined in, most of it, at least screams, from france, i don’t know, there may be nuances, but with britain, let’s say, it will give us the opportunity to conduct a positional war, that is, no, that is not so that they advance, and not so that we advance. in fact, yes, to go on the defensive, strategic defense and not to give the opportunity, to fix , let's shock people in trump's plan a little bit, that in fact the closest advisers who helped trump make the 20th year, who are with him worked in the 16th year, they are currently saying a very interesting thing, trump will have no choice, not

to give ukraine anything, for one simple reason, the key donors of the republicans, who still think it is possible to support trump, are the opc, the defense-industrial complex , thanks to the attack. to the full-scale aggression of the us defense-industrial complex on ukraine, dozens, if not hundreds, well, these are inflated numbers, hundreds of thousands of jobs, factories grew by one and a half times, and even 3,000 jobs almost every month during the past year, well, the past, it is meant, the past part of the 23rd year, and what, and here comes trump , whom these businesses gave money for his campaign, whom these businesses supported, whom they promoted and says: that's it, i'm closing the richest project of the century for you, i close the gold for you. which created your industry now, and what will they say to him then, remarks, contradictory, just discussions, the first point, this is trump's second term, and he will not be re-elected for a third, precisely because if he does not want to become a bolshevik and not give out power anymore, it is in

there is a second point, which is extremely important for us, that those who say that ukraine should not be helped less or should be stopped not for demagogic reasons, but for real policy, they say that we should focus on taiwan, help taiwan . russia is not such a threat to us, but to the european contradictions, maybe we will help somehow, but we need to concentrate on taiwan, and therefore it is most important for us to show that all this is connected, that hegemony in europe, russia will mean the weakening of europe, and europe - this the most important ally for countering china, mr. oleksandr and mr. maksym, but tell me, please, today i listened to oleksandr ustinova, who said that she is long enough. spent time in washington and communicated with various circles there before that, well, money is needed for the war, and she says: the congressmen come and ask one thing, what is the strategy, you say what is the strategy, what are you going to do at the front, and then we will well, think about money,

we need you to say clearly, we are going to do this, this and that, like this, like this and like that, well, if i may, i would say that the theory of the victory of ukraine, from the very beginning, was based on those... resources that were provided to us, because the first, most important thing that we have, if i were to talk to the americans now, i would say , first, we are fighting a country with which the whole of nato, and the united states and its european allies, were preparing for war, this is a huge country , this is the first point, the second point, our military goals, they were, let's say, worked out, worked out, considering on what you gave us, what means, how technological they were better and in quantity, this the second point, the third point... of course, if you gave what the guy wrote last year in zanomy, it would be a different situation, or if you gave what you promised for this counteroffensive in the spring, it would be a different situation, there is no dead end

, in fact there is a positional movement there, but sorry, well, just him, he was accused and our enemies use a dead end, although he has never used this article, but we have a black sea and look that we have actually liberated the western part and restored the free shipping and trading with world, we strike and in fact crimea becomes less and less capable of being held by the russians . next, what can we say, we also have powerful arguments, i am not talking about the budapest memorandums, we have been guaranteed something else, this is peastden, that is , the united states, its allies since 1991, how the soviet union developed, in fact these the money that was spent on defense, they began to spend there on civilian life. and now you are actually issuing this debt because you relaxed, you were unprepared, and therefore we are even short of certain armaments, and very another important point, if russia is a threat to the world order, in fact it creates a precedent, then there is no need for any theory of victory at all, there must be deterrence, as

was the case during the cold war, they did not say that we would deter the soviet union for 5 years, but if it doesn't work, well, then we will surrender another part of the territory there, so we have to return to the terminology and idea of ​​the cold war, nuclear deterrence, the russians, with their cartoons about strikes on florida, deterred the most powerful and working nuclear. car in the world, american, i mean, and for us quietly gave some weapons there, surely the americans need to wake up and say that it is necessary, both rhetorically and from the point of view of the means that are deployed, to deal with this matter and restrain russia so that it does not even spit and does not talk about the possibility of using nuclear weapons , we can now reverse this logic and do as it should be, offer our partners that vision of victory that we see, yes, at least the liberation of the entire south and entering the territory of the 2 14th and we will be there later

to prepare some kind of positional history and for this, so that the partners already provide the necessary measures and means for the implementation of this task , there are articles, articles of merit, we need a technological advantage, because well, 140 million ba are offensive, and in our country every life is valuable, and of course, that in order for there to be changes, such technological things are necessary, he clearly wrote, it is difficult to argue here, i am not a military expert , there is logic, the second point, of course, that we are fighting a very gentlemanly war, we cannot beat the russians with these means territory, but the meaning of the war, which was prepared by nato, and actually all these atacoms , hymars, in order to hit deep trenches and destroy the places of accumulation of the power of means, and will never crawl around there to mean trenches and the like, that is why it is deterrence, further of course, what is the question, thank god we will get these f16 goods, for which the americans have already promised us and spare parts for how many years in advance, and this is actually ... dominance in the air, because if it is not there, then it will be ours, someday again anyway, well, it should be next year, but here it seems to me, very much

an important question that the americans must solve for themselves, because these 16 will strike at targets located in the airspace of the russian federation, that is , shoot down planes or missiles, and then this principle does not apply to american strikes on russian territory, it will somehow be violated, whether an exception will be made, it seems to me that these are the most important things. i don't think it's possible to hand over the f16 and say don't use fighter jets, in the sense, it's impossible to hand over the missiles and say just don't let them fly there, che american, we we will cut off your wings, so it makes sense then, you know, there is a technological limitation , you know that reprogramming is the first thing, then it is the link-16 system, which guidance means everything , the whole guidance, we don’t have our own either, we use the american nato one, that is, this may be technically impossible. and how do you remember musk and the shutdown , avoiding the third world war, as he said, when

he shut down for our drones, this his systems, we know, the pentagon did his homework there with him educational, yes, but the pentagon takes upon himself, that is, he takes upon himself all the responsibility, but whether he will allow us to strike on russian territory, this question is decided by president biden and jack sullivan, who forms his strategy, by the way. regarding the strategy of our victory, which was saved, always by the council, regarding the strategy of the ukrainian victory, there is, for a long time already lying in the house of representatives, a copy of it lies in the senate , resolution 322, the same one that is very loudly and very beautifully called resolution on ukrainian victory, that is, the resolution about the ukrainian victory, and actually, well, first of all i agree that we do not have an adequate communication of our goals, our general goal is for everything good, against everything bad, but some point-by-point cool smart strategy that is required of us... the americans are not there, and that is why in april of this year the americans themselves said , let's clearly define what

we and ukraine are before victory, biden says a lot, scholz, a very important story, let's now we are forced to put three dots, i will remember, if not you then me. chevorons approaching victory, i am a uav operator, i save lives and teach others, i destroy enemy shahedis during air attacks, i am the driver. i am an infantryman, our tasks are different,

the goal is the same. choose your specialty and fill out the questionnaire on the website of the national guard. we will win together. i don't know if i can. what i have is enough for me. women are not paid that much. he is more professional than me. can i change anything? i don't deserve that kind of money, can i get more, and what if i'm denied, a high position, probably not for me, there are many people like me, i won't be able to. of course you can. anything that can work at night must work at night. heating the boiler, charging gadgets, warm floor and heater, dry laundry in the washing machine, unload the electricity grid in the morning and

in the evening, use the simple rules of a warm country, we will win together, well, as you can see, we have such a tough discussion, it continues, but you no less, we stopped alexander on a very important body, come on, we started talking about communication, about strategy, there was an attempt to communicate what it means for the americans to be with us until the end, because honestly, this is one of those problems, we said about the problem of our communication, the americans and our western partners also have one and it is key: we are with you until the end, until what end, that is, when, as we see the end of this war, as they see this end, and here is the american congressmen, by the way, it was a ukrainian caucus, there are 50/50% republicans, democrats, they proposed resolution 322 , which clearly say what a victory for ukraine is, that is, when you can stop aid,

roll back sanctions, the first is the territory of 1991 , membership in nato, reparations from the side russia's trials against war criminals, that's all, and here we come across a more pleasant problem, it began to be considered before the adoption of the new budget, or rather, it was in general, it was submitted in the spring, it first came to the committees, and then it started already after the summer break, the problem with the budgets started, and he, it is still there, or rather, this project still has not found its development, so when we were told about what is being thrown at us, give us a strategy, why don't we remind the american partners that let's from our side, our vision, and from your... because you have a cool vision, well, let's accept it, why not, and here 's the question, you know, i'll still come back to ms. natalie, so what's the news, what's to fight about, yes, i can't is to leave, yes, well, in what plan, what, if we are speaking for our audience, those who are watching us now, the question is strategy, strategy, strategy, yes, indeed, here is mr. alexander, mr. alexander, before that, mr. alexander , together it is correct that there are

goals that we are trying to achieve, but the discussion about how this is done tactically, no one expects that the ukrainian general staff will send a map on which there will be an offensive, which populated areas, according to which schedule they will take turns freely, this is absurd, right, but in order to tactically, tactically understand how to carry it out, first question, ukraine , and even those who do not really sympathize with us admit it, that ukraine has shown that it knows how to master the weapons it receives, knows how to correctly use the resources that we receive to the maximum, that we need more resources and already the day before yesterday , it is also understandable, therefore the conviction that we use anything that is given to us, not that we are able to produce the maximum results with our bare hands as a minimum, such a cost-bet is that we implement what is invested in us, and this is true despite the fact that ukrainian society also feels tired when we hear such international conversations, they depress us from above, but as you said, they press on us so depressingly, but this does not mean that ukraine is ready to simply surrender to russia and expect that if we freeze this line, that several years, it is still advancing

further, and then the war is even more terrible, and we lose even more, so the question here is how to do it step by step, it is really given to us. correctly, i understand that each, i apologize, mr. alexander, that if people say , for example, again to people what they want to hear, that the war will end soon, if we enter nato with one foot, if we focus on our own problems, if we will, that is, make our military industrial complex, and then russia will not attack us, and in this way they will give people this ephemeral peace, then such people should be told about the counterargument that russia... will do the same thing and that next time russia will definitely not just river irpin will not stop the russians right beautiful beautiful metaphor, i agree with you we are saying that it is a pso or something, is it an idea that is actually being considered, we are talking about the fact that if such voices are heard, it is necessary to speak an argument that is absolutely real and it stands out, we need these arguments, it seems to me

that ukrainians who survived 14, 23, understand very well that there could be the 25th, excuse me, 28, well, what else to explain? not all, well, how, if possible, what doshi, one quote that he said churchill, yes, about hitler, you can't negotiate with the predator, he always sees you as a victim, the question is when he will gather the strength to attack you again and move even further, you know, we are beautifully so narratively, that's what we said about china, that we have no right to show weakness, because as soon as we show it, it seems to me that this is a very important point for our western partners, especially the americans, to make up their minds, they want ukraine to win one hundred percent. because so that ukraine does not lose and russia does not win, this means then giving us gradually those things that would not provoke russia to use weapons of mass destruction are the first point, and the second point is not so much. there was a defeat of the russian federation, so powerful that russia began to crack there and disintegrate, because everyone, sorry, every village had nuclear bombs, yes, that is, in principle, this is

what is restraining this fork, the collapse of russia, which means nuclear escalation, this what held us back from the very beginning in helping us was, of course, a little distrust of our armed forces, they did not believe that they were capable of systematic repulse, but after a few weeks, a month or two was clear and already ramstein was the answer. and then there was a quiet, these are the red lines of possible de-escalation, they limited themselves, they thought that we will give tanks and there will be the third world war, you remember what olaf scholz said, that's what they said about stingers in december 21- th year, but i have one more question that you didn't mention, i'm sorry, but there is a demographic question , well, men in ukraine are not unlimited either, and every month, yes, what are we waiting for, until they decide to give, not to give, 300 km, 100 miles, 200 miles, still hangs like a fighter jet, how someone pays for it with blood all the time and we lose and europe loses, well , they know, they still counted, i mean primarily about the americans, that the ukrainians will show some serious successes

and russia will sit down for negotiations, ukraine, which means it will cause some damage to these mobs and all others , and then the women there will go out on the street and protest, that is, in fact, we show that the americans, first of all, their vision of russia was wrong, they were constantly wrong, and little by little , thank god... revolutionized in the help that we have, but i absolutely agree, i even have this, there is this metaphor, it's the trump trap, the sullivan trap, sullivan, the national security adviser, in fact, that if we were given what we are now in the first month of the war, then maybe the war would have already ended, russia is not capable of doing this, but we lost the most precious people, and now it is the sullivan pasca, it may be in the future, but the war ends tomorrow, god grant everything with our victory ok, but the russian federation is not collapsing, fascism is flourishing there for 140 million women are giving birth, they are ready to repeat it, and then what to do when we again

differ demographically, and by that i mean that even in the future after the victory we will have demographic factors that will restrain our ability to have a powerful economy, so that buy weapons and produce weapons and have a large armed forces, so this is really a problem, it will be solved. it is possible only by providing what our head asks for, all the means to have a techno-war there is the european union and it is still an alliance, and there everyone is talking about the fact that it is obvious that in the 24th year we are not threatened by nato, because the war will continue, but already after the washington summit, well, close let's get to the point that we will still be in the alliance, but tell me, please, because we talk about all this very theoretically, but the people issue a mandate to the authorities for certain actions, correctly, and well, very often

the phrase , that no one would like to be in the place of the president or the military-political leadership of ukraine in such a situation, but that no less, they are there now, and when they go to certain meetings, when they model their conversations, their negotiations there , of course they rely on certain opinions, on certain expert points, on think tanks and so on, and so on further, and therefore if it is possible here, right here and now, a positional war , israel, by the way, which is approaching, as they say, to the solution of this situation, then the icing on the cake, they blew up the parliament, and they say about the fact that the cychal is winning and the sector... they are taking control, hostages, this is the question of the hostages, this is the last question, the third, which they have left, but one way or another, it looks like, i am afraid to even mention that the near east,

they will cover up, that's right, this conflict, and then there remains again the ukrainian war, help the military and political leadership to talk to the world now, there should be some kind of conversation with the chinese, at least in the price help, let's simulate, simulate half a year, half a year, let's simulate, well i would say yes, first of all to our american friends and partners that look, you have, first of all, if we are talking about the current administration, there is a year, yes, that is, until the election, and that is why it is better that you give everything necessary, so that we win this war in the 24th year, do not postpone it for who knows what, otherwise then it will be actualization in euros. it is useless to talk with the chinese elsewhere, because they will not hear ukrainian arguments, they are not interested in it, but because they have basically formed their position, there are 10 points, that is,

a large-scale one for a year. they betrayed this position, europeans and americans can talk to them only from the point of view of what is not want technological restrictions, even more than we currently have, because of course the americans will not give up the fact that they diversify the production of chips and do not make themselves technologically dependent on the chinese, but we can do even more, press on you, as you support dual non-dual purpose goods, chips there are some other things. buy russian energy, but if you want us not to go into a confrontation with you, then let's solve the issue here, there is the issue and ukraine is of course fundamental, that is, we have to press on, it seems to me at times that there is actually no time, there is a lot of uncertainty, it is not known when they will start such a massive election campaign, when it will start, it is actually just madness, when the descent of the blessed fire begins, on march 5 .

well, yes, in fact, yes, but, well, these are a few months, but it seems to me that the frenzy will begin on march 4, when trump will be tried for an attempted coup d'état and when he may lose the opportunity to run for office, but that is a separate topic altogether, so you can now, wait for us to continue this one topic, i would like to ask you to display the photo that everyone was looking at, very much for the economy, i drew such a map of the main players who have to make decisions, and so that when answering this question, what and who will play for the next six months, it would be possible to show whether there are these i like the intellectual woman so much, i am making a prepared joke, i am joking that i will start to solve it when mr. yermak translates it into the language of emoticons and gestures, and then we will be able to decipher it, well, then it will be easier, you can wait, and who knows, i will be more than convincing , that there will be one gesture, so what you yes, i think there will be a beautiful smiley emoji, yes, because this one, but we have then you know that we discussed what kind of woman there is, we had a question such a circle over zelsky,

yes, we already have several here. mr. maksym, you are not used to the blackboard, give me a pen, mr. maksym, give me a pen, yes, if you can go to the board, we are not, so i will just show, and then i will pass the pen to my colleagues, we will take turns on the notebook, i have a last name since the end of the past, we talked about this young lady so that i don't jump, yes, and we had two versions, ms. mesyachuk, please, your version, i say it's hillary clinton, as the head of the democratic camp, which is what it should be. to such a mother of god over ukraine and over zelenskyi, if, god forbid, something happens with president biden there, well, what if she held back the democratic camp like this and yet he supported ukraine and continued, thank you, the answer is credited, i pay, i pass it on to you pen and i will say that you had a version, my colleagues and i will just discuss that it could be niki, i am now the last name, hayley, yes, and you then about her, so that we have a disagreement here between colleagues, so

i propose to defend mr.'s version. two days ago, you would have asked me and said, well, who is counting on geli, well, it is a maximum of 3% of support, everything is bad, but just the other day we received information that those donors who previously supported desantis are part of pence's donors , who dropped out of the race, and even some of the independent donors trump is counting on , said haley is the most balanced, moderate republican candidate, and we 're seeing that after the last. and after we see the last debates, then give a full answer, explain to the audience who ms. haley is, why she is so important, ms. hailey, a former representative of the united states of america, one of the leaders of the moderate republican camp, currently one of the candidates for the presidency of the united states, she absolutely supports ukraine , she is absolutely for the fact that ukraine should be given weapons, ukraine should be helped and so on, and she probably got the most points after the last debate, where she very deliciously smeared kermaswamy's viva, so in fact,

this is a version of helium, but i will also add such a hype about... considering how in oleksandr, this year barbie and barbenhire as a film phenomenon came to light, maybe it is her, well, at least the symbol of barbie is a logo just like that, i wanted to show the audience on an ipad, and it’s like this ipad, well, okay, let’s push the theory that it’s olena zelska, so as an option, because she’s just olena zelska, well, sometimes she wears a tail, to what mr. barpheimer said those flying bombs, yes, just them. yes, the only thing i don't really like it's nice that the dove of peace, which carries some kind of news, you see, there yes, for some reason hangs over trump, trump putin, so i 'm a little confused about the fact that zelensky is watching, or maybe a white lebi is flying there to putin, the colors of swans we discussed in the previous episode, about the fact that the green ones, the swan, because the white swan is also a strategic raider, was soviet, and the black ones are what is needed, but you know