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[000:00:00;00] emotions on this topic, because this is simply neglect of people , our people, real, normal, classy, ​​our ukrainian people, and also such a public, alleged misunderstanding that in fact everything, everything is clear to everyone, and i just want to clarify for you, on what, what result of this investigation, well, i'm not talking about it personally, even there ms. forena, what, what kind of society's reaction to, do you count on? when you want this person, irresponsible, to be brought to justice, what do you want to say to society, actually, not only to her, specifically, look, i have experience, i will approach the answer to your question a little from the other side, i have a very long experience of working with temporarily occupied territories, from the beginning, initially of temporary
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occupation, i do not stop working on it. er, in different, let's say, different forms, yes, i did it in different roles, er, i already have experience working with temporarily occupied territories and with the people who live there, and for me really, as for you, now it remains er, a very big surprise, when people from various spheres of activity, including from the public sector, do not understand it, and do not fully understand the conditions in which the inhabitants of... temporarily occupied territories live, so there is a wider scope of work here, because this is not only a question for ms. farion, in fact, it is a question of working with the residents of the temporarily occupied territories in general, for example, from our side, yes, as i already said, we are publishing, because we are the mandate of our work, we are publishing about the opposition , which is carried out and we try spread information about it, besides, for example, when working with various legislative documents, yes, or with some strategic
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documents. the more people start working with temporarily occupied territories , not even in the context of the military component there, yes, but more in the context of reintegration legislation, forced acquisition, passporting, all these, all these aspects, they delve more into the context of working with, with the occupied territories, and there is also the issue of personal responsibility, any correspondence, whether a resident temporarily temporarily resident of the occupied territory. occupied territory, there are rules for publication, there are rules for reporting this, and as a representative of a state structure, of course, there we , for example, work with appeals from citizens, yes, but we never publish, we give general figures, or we publish some impersonal case , that is, these are violations that can generally be regarded as violations of general legislation, yes, which regulates this area, there is the processing of personal data,
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confidential information, and it is not enough experience of working with temporarily occupied territories, that's why here, that's why it's such a big, yes, global issue, from our side, as i already said, we are trying, like you, yes, spreading information in the mass media, creating such news, raising these the question is careful, talk about the fact that everything that happens there can have very significant consequences for the residents of the temporarily occupied territories, and the only thing i still wanted to add was, for example, about these administrative fines, administrative proceedings, etc. , it does not end only by this, since, if it is repeated, any actions of a person are regarded as discrediting the armed forces of the russian federation, there is already criminal responsibility, with very specific terms, the detention of a person, that is, this is only the beginning, if it is already done the first time, it is administrative responsibility in the form of a fine , this already means that a person is very much under
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great e, under a great focus of attention from the power structures of the russian federation on the territory of crimea. mrs. olya, and briefly, please, finally, many were surprised, because in the temporarily occupied territories, russia allows, i am already silent about this format , he, he is just, well, this is a fiction, but one way or another, russia allegedly allows to study the ukrainian language, the guy who wrote wrote that he studies in ukrainian of philology, many consider this a sign... that he lied, this cannot be, they cannot teach the ukrainian language in the crimea. why are the occupiers creating this fiction, an alleged permission to study ukrainian. well, yes, i will try to answer this question briefly. er, this faculty, it existed, before deoccupation, in fact there were three of them, after the occupation the three faculties were united into one, and it, that is, it operated from the 14th year on
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the temporarily occupied territory, just like and in schools, the russian federation declares the presence of classes in which studies are conducted in the ukrainian language, in fact this is not the case, at best, the ukrainian language can be taught there as an optional subject. the number of these people is extremely, the number of people studying is extremely small, it is 0.1/0 of all the training that takes place in the temporarily occupied territory, they teach it on the basis of russian textbooks, just like the studies that take place in universities, also according to russian programs, on the basis of russian textbooks, the russian federation wants to show its alleged tolerance for what is happening on the territory of crimea, here you can to talk not only about the ukrainian language, for example, about the crimean tatar language, because the russian federation does not deny the possibility of the development or use of this language there, this is purely declarative for the fact that
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to show the alleged non-imposition of all russian, but in fact there is practically no teaching or teaching or any other possibilities of using the ukrainian or crimean tatar language. speech, no speech at all. thank you, ms. ola, for this inclusion, it was extremely, extremely important to actually talk about this. olga kuryshko, deputy representative of the president in the autonomous republic of crimea, was in touch with us, izet, what is your opinion about what you heard? my opinion is that we should be clear understand that in the 14th year, when the occupiers entered crimea, there were 2 million of our citizens at that time. and they actually took them hostage, hostage to the fact that our armed forces did not have the opportunity to resist at that time, there it is a separate topic, but our citizens remained in the territory of the state policy
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, there was no way to leave this territory and there will be no, because if we had implemented such a state policy, then the occupiers would have gladly brought it from russia, and even completely changed the demographics. the situation on the territory of crimea, that is why our citizens are still staying and holding on in this territory, awaiting release, we from the mainland of ukraine have worked and are working to establish contact with them, to provide the opportunity to obtain documents of the state standard, to provide the opportunity to receive education, secondary, distance, higher education distance and help.. . how is it possible under all the conditions in which we and they are, and when you understand these questions clearly, you then understand that it is not possible, given or simply that a person applied for
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a state passport, for a passport to travel abroad, somewhere to show, therefore that the occupiers are trying to take this information, to take these people who are in contact with...ukraine, they also keep them under control, in a special place, in general, all our citizens are kept under control, in a special place they keep those who apply, i want to make one important remark, look, first of all, how is it possible to publish private correspondence at all, just not even in relation to crimea, it's just not possible, it 's not, i don't know who needs it, how many higher educations and a general violation. deliberately created, she can't, she, she's not stupid, she knew what
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she did, just her gype works, yes, now she says, i'm tired, so don't do it and you won't get tired, don't do that for other people offended or dangerous, it's , well, i think, i'm sorry for my emotionality, i'm just about i've been thinking about this for a week now, i don't understand how many people can not understand this, as well as about passports, we will continue about this, the crimean process visas that were provided there, for some reason, once again, such a stereotype reigns that if you do not support the russian occupation, if you support ukraine, it is either in the 14th, you had to leave crimea exclusively, or, well, i don’t know, settle somewhere in the caves there , not have any social life, dissolve into the air, unfortunately, well, reality throws up completely different conditions and yes, sometimes people have to go to certain steps that they don't like, for example, taking russian ausweiss, which are illegal anywhere in the world and distributed
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borkovsky at espresso. at the shelter, restaurant or shop. is this normal? so. in the fund of protective structures there are rooms with a dual purpose. they can simultaneously be a shelter and be used for another purpose. but if this place is on the map of shelters, you can hide there during an emergency, it is everyone's right to be safe. and we continue our program together beraber is a joint project of the tv channel and the atp tv channel, my name is khrystyna yatskiv, my co-host is ayder muzhdaev, we have a guest in our studio, this is izet gdanov, and we have time and a good opportunity to actually talk about a rather important story, arsen dzhumadilov, who is launching an agency of the ministry of defense in the near future, which is supposed to deal with rear support, and just a few days ago made public... a post that, they say, started, as
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it often happens, in ukraine, but started the campaign against him, he cites things that relate directly to his work in the ministry, at the end he notes, i quote, recently data on my wife's receipt of the so-called passport of the russian federation in crimea was dumped into my personal a full-scale invasion, why so -called, because the current legislation defines documents issued in the occupied territories as null and void. no and nowhere in the world once again, i emphasize this from myself, these passports are not recognized with the exception of belarus and a few more marginal players, let's say, but the legislation determines that in the eyes of the public such a passport can look quite real , and we focus on the topic we want to discuss, which is actually, first of all, how to survive in the occupation, or how not to lose contact
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with a place to whom you have an attachment, whether you want it or not, without receiving a russian ausweiss, and can you blame it, but i think that izet is a very relevant person to comment here, because i will remind you, simply no one is obliged i have to remember everything, it's just that iz bodanov was the deputy minister of transport and the republic of kazakhstan before the occupation, and then after the occupation he organized a blockade on mainland ukraine, actively participated in the blockade of crimea in the 15th year. then he was a deputy and acting for a certain time as the president's representative of ukraine in the temporarily occupied crimea, and he knows all these specifics, i do, but before i give you the floor, i just want to. to ask people, and i personally know some of them who started writing, and such things, you know, as if , allegedly, arsen zhimadilov, zhimadilov, an honest person who proved his decency many times, he was even fired there for the fact that he is inconvenient, well, for corrupt officials there, other people there, how
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can he be there on the basis of the fact that he has a friend there, his wife ended up in the occupation and was forced to take zeis, not to run away from the fact that he's not ours there, he's a stranger, people, he's a crimean, people live there, millions of people live there in crimea, who were imposed this passport, it's just a disgrace, disgraceful behavior, i want, and i want to experience emotions in that's right, i don't know mr. zhomadilov specifically, i didn't communicate with him, as they say in ukraine, i didn't baptize my children, but it's enough for me that the security service of ukraine checked this person, he passed a polygraph, which means that, well, if there were any questions, were already given. how do you like it, well, i don't know, i would start with what is really in in the 14th year, when the occupiers entered crimea , they created such conditions that people, our
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citizens, left crimea, and those who remained, they silently did what they did not... forbid, or allowed the occupiers, they did so forced, everyone, everyone, i emphasize, our citizen of ukraine, who found himself in the occupation , received the so-called auschwitz, because neither seek medical help, nor pay for electricity, if you don't pay for communal services, they will be given to you property, property will be taken away, property, let's go to property, this is such an important question question, but... to the property, they came back a little later, after several years, at first they said that if you have ukrainian documents, they said that they would attach them, so at first they said that if you have ukrainian state documents for the right to property , whether there are plots of land or houses or the property of some immovable there, they remain, at first
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there was such a position, then, of course, they changed their position and forced to receive documents again, but in our... registers, the property remains with the citizens of ukraine, even if they sold it to someone, so-called. returning to the issue of so-called passports , this issue is regulated by the current legislation of ukraine, full stop, it is not a document. all those who received, who have roots, who have, what, what they live on the territory of crimea, really live, and they have. the so-called document, this is not a violation, and i ask you not to give reasons for an informational attack on us by the occupiers, because our main task is to liberate crimea, our main task is to have our citizens in crimea join the armed forces
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forces of ukraine, when we cross the administrative border from the kherson region, when such cases occur, the occupiers pick up and show them. ugh, you are our citizens, you are not their citizens, no, these are our citizens, and they have nothing to fear, except for those who have really committed criminal offenses, committed violations against humanity, against the state of ukraine, in general, the law on collaborationism, adopted literally recently, let's be honest, answers all questions, read and compare, if certain actions match, then we understand that there will be responsibility, but the fact of receiving the russian so-called crimean documents is not a crime, and it should simply be a bold point on this listen, well, even, even during the second world war, even the stalinist regime did not punish directly for
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the fact that people those occupying ausweiss used to take birth certificates there, it was completely understandable, even when now educated people, you know, put... people at fault, well, what cannot be put right, absolutely, in any way, that's me i think that it's just that, i said in general terms in words, i will say this, when you take part in this, when you take part in shackling people for nothing, you take part in russian ipso and everything, that is, they count on it, to shake the country, to make us all quarrel, and when in this well-known public figures are involved, i give them a straight 10. even more in fact, i want to add, if it is ignorance, before saying anything, let them find out from those who know, that is the first question, like if want to hype about these, then this is not a topic for hype, and it must be proven,
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to report and respond to this, it is very critical to such cases, as far as crimean , so-called passports are concerned, as far as citizens of ukraine who permanently live in the territory of matric ukraine and for some reason have any passports of the russian federation, there are questions for them, for what, why did they take them, then, i want to emphasize, kherson region. it was occupied there for a little more than a year, and even there i have a question, if a person has so-called passports, that is, there was no such situation as in crimea, and god forbid there will be no more that is, the territory will be free in the near future, i hope, and the armed forces of ukraine and all law enforcement systems are working on this issue, but those people have a question, why is it important to prepare, why is it important to her that the crimean unit, which will enter crimea, must prepare for this
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issue, i.e. they must be knowledgeable about the military, when they cross the border, our main task is not to turn people against us, these are our people, and we are their armed forces, and they must join us , in order to free their territory, their homes from the occupiers, well, besides, the defense forces of ukraine, when they appear in crimea, they should see people with ukrainian eyes, with ukrainian eyes, i don't know if they were able to preserve ukrainian flags during the 10 years of occupation, but someone has to meet the defense forces in crimea, and there are people who are waiting for this and are already ready, let 's not reject and turn them away from us, people , i just completely agree, people, i am sure, there most of the people in crimea are preparing to meet our army, and when
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troops will enter there, including 48 separate command post battalion, they will be met, absolutely, you will simply see all this, it will be a shame to become those who doubted that, well, i don’t know, maybe someone will judge for themselves, but there are a lot of people in crimea even now and just now helping and protecting and themselves, as citizens of ukraine, their dignity, to help the troops, this is all fun, crimea. in the pamuk language, yes, clappers, as they say, yes, this is also happening with the help of our people, well, how can you be disrespectful, and traitors, traitors, we will punish, punish, unequivocally, thank you, on therefore, the time of our program today is over , thank you for the opportunity to have this conversation and zeta gdanov, thank you to your brothers and sisters, as i learned, who are already preparing for the liberation of the occupied crimea.
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thank you to ader muzhdabaev, with whom we work every week now in this difficult work of ours, sometimes, sometimes not in the mainstream, because you know , unfortunately, even now in ukraine there are sometimes moments when some very bright things go ahead of healthy logic, sometimes legislation, rational thinking, and just common sense, you know, yes, it is necessary to fight for a healthy stupidity, because people go crazy from time to time. thank you, it was a program together beraber, a joint project of tv channel uso and tv channel atr. see you in a week. it 's all good. attention, an incredible novelty from unbox tv: super warm and very comfortable alya boots. perfect fit, water-repellent material and a feeling of warmth even in 30-degree frost. alaska style boots have a universal design and
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from 799 hryvnias. call greetings, chas noviny is on the air of the tv channel, kateryna shirokpoyas works in the studio. they launched shahedis in several waves, in groups and in different regions. in total, the attack lasted about eight hours. the russians launched 38 missiles over ukraine, 29 of them were shot down by our defenders - they declared in force, the drones flew in ukraine from the northern and southeastern directions. that night, the russians attacked odeshchyna. they hit an energy infrastructure facility in the region with mortars, a large-scale fire started there, which was quickly extinguished by rescuers. as a result of the shelling, one person was injured, the man was hospitalized, this
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