barchuk. a series of conversations with ukrainian and western intellectuals who interpret and comment on the most relevant social discussions. we will find out exactly what news the guests of the project will analyze this week and who will be the guest of the studio this sunday. undoubtedly, the topics will be relevant, the guests - special. proper names with myroslava barchuk. sunday: 17:10 at espresso. the eurovision song caused a great sensation and even if you don't pay attention to the eurovision story, the song resonated so much that we got into the billboard charts. on the eve of district operations of the united forces, ukrainian fighters used the bayraktar reconnaissance and strike unmanned complex for the first time. good health again, my name is mykola veresen, as

i am... oleg shamsho, diplomat, ambassador of ukraine to the united states from 5 to 10 years, and ambassador of ukraine to france from 14 to 20 years, i hope now will appear, good health, mr. oleg, thank you for what you found for us, on saturday, thank you for the invitation, well, look, i have such a first question, there is such an edition of aksios, which is translated from greek, worthy, this means they spread decent information, and this information is like this, trump is planning to establish a dictatorship in the united states, the question is for you as a person with experience in international relations, it is even theoretically possible in a country like the united states, with a balance of power with a huge centuries-old history democracy, to establish a dictatorship, this is theoretical, and even if it is possible, it is difficult to say theoretically. maybe impossible, but

again theoretically, i think it's impossible, at least in the united states that we know that exist now, it is impossible , because there are safeguards, there are institutions, and i think that it is impossible, at the same time, it is absolutely clear that, if god forbid, there will be a new reshuffle. trump, this will be the presidency, he has already said about it himself, revenge and it is quite clear that it will affect the issue of democratic principles and everything that was done by his successor, and in this case his predecessor, that is, i don’t think a dictatorship , but there will certainly be serious attempts to take revenge, another

very delicate issue, that is the republican party , which would probably nominate trump in the election, in the race, there are some things that it will not be able to accept, that is, one thing is my party, not my party affiliation, and the second thing is that i am a citizen of the united states, and there are some principles. which i cannot go to under all conditions, and putin wanted to say, and trump can create something that even the republicans will say, listen, well, this is too much, well, we cannot tolerate it, whether it is false, gender or party politics is higher than the state politician, i would be happy to answer your question in the negative, but this, after all

... or rather, when looking for an answer to this question, one must understand the state in which the republican party is now, this party is in a state of crisis, trump is practically managed to complete its transformation, it is no longer the reagan republican party, that is, the one we knew before, er, the core of the party... are trump fans who believe in all his nonsense, but at the same time there is, well, a wing that is now definitely in the minority of traditional republicans, and on alas, after all, they are not the ones making the weather in the republican party right now, but precisely those who appear, are not just supporters of it, i would say fans of trump.

that's why i'm quite pessimistic here, the situation, in my opinion, will be quite difficult, now to international affairs, i would definitely like to ask about the internal party, but i'm not convinced that this is interesting to the viewers of espresso tv, this meeting, the president of the people's republic of china xi jinping and president biden , if what i see, most of the emphasis, so very careful, says that well, it is not yet the de-escalation of tensions that existed between the ussr and the usa in the late 80s, but this is definitely not an escalation of relations, and both leaders decided that we will not escalate, at least we will be more silent about the escalation than speak, what is your impression of the meeting between xi jinping and biden? you see, i had about the same allusion, association, this meeting,

it reminded me very much of those meetings that were between the leaders of the united states, or at least high officials of the united states, soviet. union during the existence of sovdypia. that is, the purpose of this meeting is to reduce the level of tension, it has reached a really high level, which is no longer satisfactory and is considered dangerous both by the united states and by china, so both leaders of the establishment of the other country decided to lower the tone a little. but at the same time, one must understand that contradictions remain, they are serious and i even believe that these contradictions are of the nature of such that cannot be settled, they will always remain,

so we will see that again we saw in soviet times, certain increase and decrease with... decrease in the degree of contradictions between these states, if you look at the results, they are quite small, i would say even so small, but all observers consider them to be essential, well , approximately what was expected, this restoration of communication between the military, in order to avoid the occurrence of such dangers. situations, the second is the creation of a working group to prevent the export of illegal united states, a number of drugs, and the third, agreed to start working again on negative climate changes,

that is, very little progress, little gains, but the main thing, and in principle, i believe that it was successful , it was achieved, this is a reduction in the level of tension, that is, it is certainly not a detente, of course, these are different states with different priorities, with different strategic goals , these are, as you call it, adversaries, or competitors, one way or another, but of course they will remain so, they will remain, this is , let’s say, the exceptional position of the two sides, that is, if xi jinping changes, which no, no, no , well, well, unlikely, or, because america, well it is more or less small, it has some established policy , except for that same trump, there is little correlation, that is

, america, i think, will remain, and trump, he can even worsen relations, he really does not like china, he really wants to prove something to him somehow. but basically the status quo, as you say, that tension will increase , then decrease, then increase , then decrease, it will remain so, that is, these two superpowers will continue, will continue their disputes, because of course, this does not depend on the personality of the leaders, as you remember, well, this one is more sober , one must pay due attention to relations with china, this orientation began under trump and biden, although he declared that it would be different, but even during the election campaign he said that he would, let's say, fight china's influence in the travel arena, unfair

, as they say, economic competition, that is, in principle, this continued, if we take china, well , if we imagine such a fantastic idea, situation when china becomes a democracy, will become a capitalist state, well then, of course, relations will change, but we understand that this issue is not for tomorrow and not even for the day after tomorrow, it is still a small issue, it is interesting that you did not mention the possibility of the transformation of the united states into a communist country, but they mentioned the transformation of china into a capitalist country, this is to me, i now more or less understood everything at once, and the visit of mr. yermak, the right-hand man: the president of ukraine, to the united states, we have not heard much, not so much, it is so without, as i would

say you are without a pump, but you have some information about what was going on, about what, what was there, whether something was agreed upon, or was it just some kind of consultation, what was it, and we must give credit, well, so far there have been no leaks of information other than what we saw in the press , that is, uh... the information that the participants in the vkontakte negotiations wanted to convey to the public, if you look at the result , it seems to me, well, in general, i believe that any contacts, especially in such a military, wartime period, are necessary, but mainly it was an opportunity to prove our position, our, maybe some concerns, to give... information to hear from the americans, that is, i think that it was implemented, obviously

there was also, there was, there was such a task, to influence the consideration of the so-called ukrainian issue in the congress, as we see, it was not implemented, and it seems to me , one must definitely try, as i say up, never to give up, at the same time one must understand that the ukrainian issue is only one, well, important, but not the key issue of this complex political game that is currently taking place in the congress, in the relations between republicans in congress, the white house and, the democratic faction, so this visit definitely did not affect it, but i think that it was useful in principle precisely from the point of view of exchanging information, proving the position and taking into account the position. and assessments of the situation by our american friends. i would like to thank oleh

shamshur, diplomat, ambassador of ukraine to the united states, ambassador of ukraine to france. your excellency, thank you for being with us. now we will have a commercial break for 3-4 minutes, and then we will talk in more detail about east asia with the master of foreign policy, mrs. natalka plekaksie. in kobutyr, but under all conditions, first we need to see what they offer us to buy and receive, it's called advertising on espresso. problems with the frontal joints limit movement, it is unpleasant and painful. strengthen them with the help of longit joints, these are bags with collagen and vitamin c for recovery. articular cartilage. dolgit joints contributes to the normal functioning of the joints and

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finding time for us, and i have a question for you, suddenly i am a journalist, you know, i have a problem. these questions arise from time to time, see how correlated the internal and external are politics in the people's republic of china, which i mean, internal economic policy, to put it mildly, is not brilliant in china , everyone knows it, everyone investigates, everyone writes about it, that there is a possible mortgage crisis, and a banking crisis, and so on, so similar, it can affect the fact that if there is a real crisis, that. that china will go to america with a bigger, let's say, a smile, maybe not with a lot of friendliness, but at least without a big tough position on washington from the side of beijing, well, in fact, the first step has already been taken, because xi jinping's visit, it's very

it is important from the point of view of establishing relations between the two countries, and you mentioned the economic situation, between the two countries, they are very closely connected by trade and economic relations between them, and moreover, by the investments made by american companies in particular, and on against the background of this deterioration of relations, against the background of the internal crisis, for example, the last month was very serious, there was a very serious outflow of investments and a serious investment crisis, that is why sidin pinen went to america today, they are very nice spoke with biden, it is important that, for example, the chinese media noted the positive atmosphere of this conversation, and moreover, sidzimpini took part in a meeting with american businesses, where he told them that china is not closing, as many think, china will create

the most open the conditions for their business are also favorable, and this is another goal from trust to to the chinese market, to china, to the capabilities of china as well, i want to emphasize, for example, the difference, because literally the brics summit, it was in the summer, and there was also brics business summit, so xi jinping did not speak there, everyone noticed, but instead sent his deputy vice president of the country, that is, understanding that american business, the american establishment is very important for china today, he sent the maximum signals during his visit, and a plus, look... the apec summit, 21 asian countries that are closely connected with china, xi jinping also spoke about openness, inclusiveness, innovation, development, and

from his side he gave signals for these countries that are around him, because the markets of these countries are also very important for china, well, for example, the asean markets, these are one of the main key for him, and it is also important, this meeting, and biden, we will not talk about the results there, because, as we already talked with you, just last week, no one expected that there would be any agreements, that some papers and even concessions would be accepted, no, but the very fact of this meeting and a signal to the whole world that the two countries are ready to bypass the differences that exist between them, keeping your competition in your hands is a signal: for the rest of the world, as an example, for example , prime minister of japan fumeshida and xi jinping

, the leader of china, met on the sidelines of this atech summit. why is this important? because the relations between the two countries are very tense, lately, they are of such a geopolitical nature, because japan is an important partner of the united states, both in the political direction, and in terms of such a certain, certain criticism of china, he followed the united states, well it is obvious that china does not like it, and these relations were like that acute phase, china informed japan, because now , as we know, japan is releasing water from fukushima little by little into the ocean, night waters, and china does not disagree with this, and thus he expressed his disagreement in the form of what he doesn't buy, now...' he doesn't export seafood at all, and that's billions of losses. and since japan did not try to involve the chinese in that commission, which

is actually engaged in monitoring whether the child is really vulnerable, the chinese did not agree, that is, there was such a political demash, now they met, discussed and even found ways in which they will decide, it is about how important it is when the united states and china gave to the world and why it is important for china, because trade, relations with those countries that support the united states, it can have such a positive basis, to settle in a certain way, also the next one, yes stop stop, ms. natalya, i have another question, i work here as a journalist, journalists always have a lot of questions, but let's focus on the people's republic of china, what i mean, here we have been talking about this for at least a year, and we are more attentive people they have been talking about for more than one year, what i said, that there are problems, there are crises, there are mortgages, there

are, in short, there are problems, but nothing is happening, no such crises, crises, are not happening, as far as we can be convinced, that the power of the chinese economy is such that china is not needed, it will simply survive, you know, like a cold, cough, bandage its throat, gargle and move on, or is this really some bigger problem, and it will be necessary to somehow adjust the internal economic and financial policy of official beijing, well, official beijing deals with this, they her are adjusting and they are more in control of their economy, obviously there will be a number of measures that will be taken so that the economy does not go down the wrong wrong path, and i think there will be opportunities in china to stop the negative processes, and it is not

the first crisis that the country was going through, according to many economists, even though this is what is happening, and you mentioned these factors, there is still some hope that china will be able to correct the situation, another thing is that now everyone clearly understands that china is not will be able to... develop economically at such rates as this there were previous years, i.e. 6% of gdp and so on. china, china's gdp will be at the level of 3%, the economic slowdown, and accordingly this slowdown, it will be reflected in a certain way to the world, because many countries of the world were dependent precisely on the chinese economy, and the chinese economy was the engine of the world economy, and in in this regard, of course there will be some influence, and so even the fact that bai biden met with xijin pini, they talked a lot about economic issues, obviously the united

states for its part ... will also do certain steps that are not related to their national security, that is, there are matters of principle, these are technologies that they don't want, high technology that they don't want to put in the hands of china now, but other things that they can continue to do in terms of trade that will help china to level its economy, why, because the united states, for its part, is also closely connected, no matter how it is, but they recognize this fact . in addition, in addition to the united states, a number of countries, the european union are also connected and the world in general . and therefore, ms. natalya, the last question, because i will be fired from my job if i don't remember about ukraine, and now i remember, china is lost for ukraine, there were several in my memory, i have a political, journalistic memory of 35 years, there were some such outbreaks, i even remember i remember some leaders of the people's republic of china who came to kyiv, but

nothing happened after that, then we can say that there will be some sluggish, normal relations, but we can say that ukraine can at least not restore, but build some specific , warmer, hotter relations with beijing, perhaps because ukraine is not one belt, one road has become one belt, one road, and since ukraine is trying to escape from it, china also does not want to do business with ukraine, because if you take money and dependence from us at the same time as money, then well, and if not, then no, well, in fact, now there is more russian aggression against ukraine and the confrontation of the united states, china, china opposes the united states in any case and it will not stop, and russia in this case is its fellow traveler, and while this factor exists, ukraine is not a sphere of interest.

china's strategic interests, trade interests, yes, regarding the belt and road, well, it's good that we have not fallen into such dependence as other countries have, because chinese investments must be seriously weighed, very, very seriously approached to what china gives, on what conditions does china give and what should we give them in return, because we also had examples when yanukovych took a loan from china, and now ukraine still gives that loan. well , we also had a history with motor cutting, when china almost introduced a very strategic one into us an important factory. therefore, thank you, everyone, please excuse me, ms. natalya, unfortunately, from the news , yes, you are right, i also understand the situation in sri lanka and pakistan and africa, where china entered, as if gave money, and then made dependence, all countries, these territories on himself, and very, very much they are not sweet now, but

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