[000:00:00;00] negotiations, ah, i believe that our capacities for next year will be fully loaded at 100%, that is, plus or minus there, today, our company is able to produce approximately seven bpls per day, and that is about 200 bpls per month, i.e. for the next year, we will have one hundred percent planned loading, i believe, and therefore everything is still at the stage of negotiations, when you talk about seven bpps per day, then we are talking about the fact that it can be two complexes. per day, so it turns out, just like that, just like that, and one bpla in we go to the repair fund, and by the way, how do you currently have a system for repairing and maintaining complexes that are already in use in the armed forces, or have you already developed such an optimal model that allows you to be flexible both for you and for the military, so this system we have a separate service center that is separate from production

, as of today, let's say easy repairs, i.e. damage to some composite parts, right there wings, stabilizers, fuselages, we can eliminate in a week, if we are talking about some kind of difficult repair, that is, if some expensive, expensive component of our complex is damaged, for example, there is a thermal imager, an autopilot, then the repair can take up to a month, that is , today our service center works without days off, we provide our military with prompt, prompt support for any operational issues. our complex, as well as regarding repair issues, do you introduce such a model, in particular such a floating fund, when you have a certain complex there, and when there is a military appeals to the fact that the complex there is damaged or some of its key components, it is possible to install this reserve complex , and then repair it and replace it with the one that is already at the disposal of the military, there are certain certificates of the crews with whom we cooperate even starting there

since the 15th year and sometimes... if our enterprise fund allows, then we use such an opportunity, and when we are now talking about the expansion of production, about the scaling of production, your pace is quite high, which you talked about two complexes on day, this in fact, well, i understand, 60 complexes per month, and then the question arises, is there a need to expand industrial capacity and what are the main problems now, relatively speaking, it is a lack of... capacity, a lack of finances, a lack of personnel, a lack of components, so what of these areas are the most difficult to satisfy, if the question of increasing the number of samples is really raised, well , look, all these issues that you voiced, that is, with all these issues, all the young enterprises that are now scaling up, such themselves as we once were, they face them, first of all, i want to say

that it is a lack of quality production premises in general, that is, when we are looking for something to rent, when we need to increase production capacity, it is very difficult to find a ready-made solution , in general, these are some old factories that need to be completely restored to our needs, therefore, first of all, it is the lack of buildings for the organization of our production, regarding the lack of experienced personnel, this is the problem and that is why we introduced training courses at our company own personnel, that is, we now practice that we take a person from scratch and train him for a certain position, of course, it is quite difficult when it comes to engineers, designers who work for us in the design bureau of the bureau in our rnd department, so if there is a lack of specialists, it really exists today, as for the lack of components, this is more a matter of service

, i.e. to, for example, ensure the operational service of our birds, we need to always keep receiving the balance in the warehouse, in order to receive the balance in the warehouse, it is necessary it is necessary for the company to invest its own working capital, we deal with this, but this is a rather difficult issue for young companies that have just started their own activities, which have a deficit of their own working capital, which must be invested precisely in components that will work for the service. mr. krylo, now the deviro company is no longer ukrainian, but a czech-ukrainian company , of course the question arises whether this makes it easier for the company to receive foreign components there, or whether it simplifies the supply processes, what are the positives from this step, which did the management of your company?

look, i want to point out the following, that is, the czech company and the ukrainian company are two separate legal entities, that is, they are connected to each other today only by a cooperation agreement, so it is not entirely correct to say that the devi is completely located in the czech republic, regarding, could you please repeat the question regarding the czech company in particular, i.e. are there any advantages for the czech company, obtaining foreign-made components there, there are certain preferences that allow, relatively speaking, to speed up the production of complexes in comparison with its ukrainian partners there, well, look , the ukrainian enterprise first of all faces the export, and the second is the fact that quite a few, many, well-known european manufacturers refuse supply our products specifically to ukrainian enterprises, that is why we solve this issue precisely through our partner in cherkasy, so

yes, it simplified the issue of obtaining, for example, some components, and was it possible deploy capacities on the territory of the czech republic in order to manufacture the lalecke lr complex in the quantities that the armed forces will potentially need. you see, we are currently in the czech republic at the stage of final certification of our production and plan to start production of the stork lr in the czech republic starting from march of the 24th year. the planned capacity of our production will initially be 150 birds per month, that is, it is 50 full-fledged complexes. we already have experience scaling production in ukraine, therefore we plan to transfer this experience to the czech company as well, so i believe that at the end of the 24th year, the czech company will be able to meet the needs of the ukrainian market as well, and when you talk about certification, as i understand it, each european country has its own characteristics:

poland, the czech republic, slovakia all provide the certification process in different ways, how long did it take for your czech partner? about half a year in total, that is, this process involves the certification of both personnel and management, capabilities, opportunities, that is, such a large complex of problems, which and questions that actually come out of all the standards of this or that country. yes, yes, of course, well, first of all, it is preparation of documents, preparation of documents regarding the production itself, production safety, organization of technological processes, so yes, all this takes time, but six months is more than enough. mr. wing, very much. thank you for these explanations, i hope that your and the czech partner and your base ukrainian company will still have many orders for next year, which will allow you to develop new directions, the armed forces to receive effective complexes, i will remind our viewers that on the air

was krylo zabolotny, the operational director of the production and innovation company deviro, which , as we now see, has developed a new model for the needs of our armed forces. and then we will talk about what other samples are created by our private companies, what problems they face, how they solve them, but about this after the advertising and information block, there are discounts on hapargin, 15% in pharmacies podorozhnyk, bam and savings try flebodia 600, pink french pills for acute hemorrhoids, flebodia 600 medicine. hemorrhoids without any oops. kanalal espresso and ukrainian pen present the project of their own names with myroslava barchuk. a series of conversations with ukrainian and western intellectuals who

analyze and comment on the most relevant social debates. we will find out exactly what news the guests of the project will analyze this week and who will be the guest of the studio this sunday. undoubtedly, there will be topics. actual guests special proper names with myroslava barchuk sunday 17:10 at espresso. dear citizens of ukraine, this morning president putin announced a special military operation in donbas. russia carried out attacks on our military infrastructure and on our border guards, explosions were heard in border detachments in many cities of ukraine. we introduce the russian warship did go to the bottom, the flagship and pride of the black sea fleet

of the muscovites, the cruiser moskva, sank. the european parliament supported the provision. we continue ukraine's status as a candidate for eu membership our military program and further about our private defense industry, which creates weapons and equipment for the needs of the armed forces, the private part of our enterprises is more flexible than the part of state-owned companies, if we consider even those samples that appear in use our military, but what needs to be done so that our private companies can really realize their capacities to the maximum, and now we are joined by maksym polivyanyi, the executive director of the public organization national association of defense

industry of ukraine. mr. maxim, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. good afternoon, i would like you to remind our viewers how many privately owned enterprises are currently members of the national defense industry association of ukraine. well, to date, 48 enterprises are part of the association of our association. and this is just a part of them are enterprises that directly fulfill the state defense order, in various sectors of the needs of the armed forces, almost, almost all enterprises that are part of associations, one way or another involved in the execution of a state defense order, either having direct contracts, relationships with various state customers, or acting as subcontractors. under current contracts.

and further, i would like to ask, first of all, about the direction that we have been discussing for at least six months, it concerns the fact that the state audit service made conclusions based on the contracts of the 22nd year, made its conclusion, based on which, state and private defense enterprises have to return earned profits to budget, and literally, it seems, on november 2... yes, your association with representatives of certain defense enterprises held such an internal meeting with the new leadership of the ministry of defense of ukraine, where it was promised to take some measures to break this impasse, which in fact creates such systemic problems in the perception of relations between the state and the enterprises themselves. i would like to hear whether there were any positive dynamics after this meeting on november 2, which allows us to talk about the fact that the situation is really getting better and that

objections to defense enterprises in terms of profit, they will in principle be somehow correctly resolved, that is, at what stage is this story now? yes, such a meeting took place, i also took part in this meeting, uh, first of all i want to thank the ministry of defense, because the ministry of defense takes the most active position among all the executive bodies. authorities to settle this problem, meetings are held, meetings are held with associations, employers' federations, directly with manufacturers, suppliers to agree all problematic issues to take into account the positions of various enterprises and suppliers, this also applies to arms suppliers and suppliers who provide rear support, body armor, uniforms, and food suppliers, after this

meeting a draft of the government's resolution was worked out, jointly worked out, which should settle this problem , this project has been agreed with the employers' federation, and with our association, and with the main manufacturers and suppliers, and is currently in the process of coordinating the government's resolution among the minister the ministry of finance, the ministry of economy is there, and it should be submitted to a decision , well, to a meeting of the cabinet of ministers to make a final decision, and we hope that this will finally put an end to this long, sad and rather unpleasant story, and then regarding the sequence of this story, because on the basis of these conclusions, dasu, representatives

of nabu began to initiate such cases against individual directors of enterprises, does this mean that in case of cancellation of the conclusions of dasu, all these accusations about certain enterprises, they will also in fact be stopped and the continuation of nabu's actions will simply not be, we hope that this is so, because the draft resolution that is being prepared was also discussed by the scholars of the service states, in order for them to have a reason to cancel their decision and, accordingly, those criminal cases, which were violated not only against. enterprises, but also against officials of the ministry were finally stopped, these criminal cases, which were

initiated on the basis of the conclusion of the state service production, and specifically against the suppliers of weapons. of military equipment to date, because on the basis of this conclusion, our control bodies, this and the state bureau of investigation and naboo, can open a criminal case against anyone from the management, any defense industry enterprise, which fulfilled the state defense order in 2022, that is , all, absolutely all heads of all enterprises in the defense industry are under these criminal cases. that's why i asked what the risk really is, it's still up in the air and all the talk, unfortunately, this risk is not for today, it has not been removed yet and it exists and a criminal case can be opened against anyone. and i will touch on one more such moment, one more revealing moment that

, according to our information, when based on such conclusions, the state audit service also comes to inspect the enterprise. for cross-checks, for some reason, among the documents that they seize at enterprises or want to seize present, in addition to financial documentation, economic documentation and design documentation on products that are secret, on products that are new developments and very sensitive developments, this is an issue that exists today, and it also needs to be resolved, but it is not known what. where and in which hands this design documentation can then fall, and what are the motives for removing the design documentation, what do they say when they come and take the documents? without any motives, mr. maksym, but we mentioned that about 40 enterprises are part of sisiatsi and they

participate in one way or another in the implementation of state of the defense order, and is it possible to make preliminary evaluation summaries for this year, have these enterprises supplied defense products, will they be supplied this year more or less compared to last year? ? i cannot give exact estimates, because such a calculation, such a calculation has not yet been made, to date it does not exist, it will probably appear somewhere closer to the end of the year, but estimated, estimated, i can say that yes, we were increased , and that normal, and it should be so, because the country is in a state of war and domestic manufacturers must mobilize and increase their capacities as much as possible today in order to provide the armed forces. for the enterprises that we have, i have available

information, yes, the volumes have increased and quite significantly, but is it possible to give examples of the most obvious examples of equipment or weapons that were developed this year or started to be produced at enterprises that are part of yours associations? you understand, as far as the development of samples of military equipment is concerned, it is a very difficult and long process, because military equipment, a sample of military equipment , cannot be created in a month, even: it is impossible to create in six months, military equipment, both in the soviet union and in western countries , in the countries of our partners , has been created for years, this is the period of first development, from design documentation and creation, prototype, testing, then finishing the prototype,

testing again and so on, this is enough a long and difficult way before the equipment, as a sample of military equipment, will be put into service and will begin to be delivered to the armed forces of ukraine, therefore these developments, most of those developments that were delivered to the troops this year, the beginning was still laid there two , three, four years ago, before, before, in front of me, our colleague, the head of the devira company, spoke about the drones that were put in charge of the drones, that were put in the armed forces of ukraine, and examples of such, such there are examples, but these examples were carried out and started two or three years before , that is, in fact, the main challenge last year and this

year was to ensure, possibly there, the relocation of enterprises, to create capacity in other, safer places, again there to update the personnel and ensure the mass production of those samples that have already been adopted, well, and partly of new systems that the armed forces need, and this was exactly the main challenge for all defense enterprises, this is one of the main issues, the issue of relocation, the issue of, the issue of launching rocket attacks on enterprises, and there are a lot of such cases , er, this issue is also in the adjustment of the production cycle, because the winter that came, we all know, everyone sat without light at home and without heat, but the production enterprises were also without electricity and power supply, and of course it affected the production process, which led to the disruption of production, and to the disruption

of supplies, and to the disruption of contracts, and when we talk about the disruption of contracts, is the ministry of defense accepted this formative things related, in particular, with strikes, enemy missiles against our defense capacity there, or how this, let's say, force majeure, well, was arranged in relation to the change of defense in order to fulfill those contracts that were signed earlier, well the company usually applied in such cases, they applied to the chamber of commerce and industry to obtain certificates about the occurrence of force majeure circumstances, such certificates were provided, but the ministry of defense does not always accept them and , as a rule, sends such, contracts, such cases to the court in order for the court itself to make a final decision, to impose fines, but when the company goes to court, it cannot, conditionally speaking, enter into new contracts, because the cases under

the old contracts have not been resolved, is there such a dead end situation? no, there is no such situation, new contracts are concluded as well, and when we talk about the loading of enterprises, we understand that they have to increase capacity, but the increase in capacity is based primarily on the contracts that should be concluded there i am already thinking about next year, and maybe even three-year contracts, what is the situation, in general , for privately owned enterprises, do they have an understanding of what they will do next year, and are there examples that some of them have more than one-year contracts? three-year contracts for the future, er, concluding three-year contracts, we have the possibility of concluding three-year contracts is provided for by law, but unfortunately, to date, i have not heard of such precedents, when

such long three-year contracts were entered into with manufacturers, supplies would be laid down and payments would be made, advances would be made for several years in advance, as of today, and in times of war, everything is done, so for a maximum of a year, no more, i will tell one example, regarding one of the companies that manufacture mortar systems, mortars... 120- caliber and 82 caliber, the company has contracts, had a contract for supplying mortar systems for the ministry of defense, for other state customers, the contract with the ministry of defense has expired, the products were manufactured and delivered in full, a question arises the conclusion of the contract for the 24th year , a commercial offer of the ministry of defense is provided, and the ministry says: and we have no need. for mortars, it's strange, there is no need for mortars, yes, the ministry of defense answers, we don't need them, we

turn to the general staff, the general staff says: but we don't have them at the moment, but we will increase them, and when we have them to increase by what amount we do not know, and at the same time they are coming to the enterprise in parallel, but literally yesterday i had a meeting with representatives territorial defense battalion, are now preparing to go to the front line in rotation, they have arrived and are asking you to give us at least two mortars, because we have nothing to shoot at, i say i can't, because the ministry of defense says that there is no need to them, well, then i have the next question, you know the one i had for you , it was that the leadership in the ministry of defense has changed, new deputy ministers have arrived, they are talking about fast procedures, about improving the procurement procedure, and i wanted to ask you, that is, whether there are, whether you feel any positive changes in relations with the ministry of defense,

in accordance with these procurements, and now i see that this issue is hanging in the air. because such examples show that, after all, either the bureaucracy or some things are unclear for the current state of affairs, well, it is even difficult to explain, the ministry of defense is not responsible for everything, the ministry of defense carries out procurement directly, but what to buy, in what quantity, are these requests, this need formed by the general staff? therefore , in principle, there cannot be any questions to the ministry of defense here, especially since the agency with defense procurements, contracts are concluded, the procurement system works and as before it was through the department of military -technical cooperation, well, but as regards the formation of the need and the formation of some kind of vision, not just for a year, but at least for two or three years ahead regarding the implementation of procurement and setting up production, well

, as of today, i can't say about it. because there is no such thing, well, then i have an extreme question that i would like you to say, what is most needed now then by our private enterprises from the point of view of in order to look into the future with some certainty, in addition to forecasting with orders, what else is needed in order for our well-known private defense industry to feel that it can really work to the maximum in these conditions, unfortunately, today the defense industry works in today's mode of the day, because no one knows what will happen tomorrow, eh, these are criminal cases, these are the conclusions of the day, this is also a change in the regulatory framework, a change in legislation, the lack of any vision, regarding the development for the next two or three years there, today everyone

directors of enterprises, management of industrial enterprises, they live today, today, analyzing the problems that are on... missile attacks, blackouts, shortage of components, relations with the ministry, with the general staff, conducting tests of new products, testing grounds, and so on , and so on, and so on. i can give many examples when it is not impossible to catch the director, deputy director, chief designer, enterprise in kyiv, in kyiv, because they spend all their time, at the front in the front-line regions, at the training grounds, constantly working there. with his equipment. mr. maksym, thank you very much for the inclusion, for such harsh but clear explanations of what is happening with our private industry, we hope that our mozhan residents will also hear these conclusions, i will remind our viewers that maksym polivyanyi was in filklen express, he is the executive director of the national association of defense industry of ukraine, a public organization that unites private enterprises of defense

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