[000:00:00;00] right now, internal issues are much more serious than external ones, so i am not sure that he, and whether he even wants to play this kind of geopolitical game that orbán is playing, for fico there are much more important things, well, much more important things, it is not just to return to power, that he did it through the elections, actually to consolidate this power, because he does not have the confidence inside the country that viktor orban has, neither from the point of view of the rating, nor from the point of view of the government, nor from the point of view of the coalition, they generally have a problem with selection personnel, i.e. in certain ministries people are working who say, mr. dmytro , i'm sorry, but i have to interrupt you, dmytro tuzhanskyi, director of the institute of central european strategy, an expert on ukrainian-hungarian relations, we talked not only about ukrainian-hungarian, but also about ukrainian-slovak, we touched on at least , our conversation, well, you

understand about now what is happening: in the central-eastern part of europe with our neighbors, with the slovaks and hungarians, with the magyars. now to berlin, igor eidman, russian sociologist, political expert, publicist, etc no, but they say that maybe he will appear, let's not talk about berlin in the first place , but let's actually continue our conversation, or rather my conversation with oleg sahakyan regarding the elections, or what the russians call the elections in the russian federation, i have today is such a ukrainian-russian day, or in the evening i switch to russian again and will speak in this language with igor eidman, a russian sociologist, political expert, and publicist. hello igor, thank you for finding time for us, if you are, show me, please, i'm here,

it's great, it's great, look. i would like to hear your thoughts as soon as possible, here we cannot know anything, for sure, but in the second decade of march there will be such an event , which some people in russia call an election, other people say that at the time, well, such sociologists, politicians, historians say that at such moments the situation is very difficult for any dictator, because he still needs to somehow publicly... say that he is popular, but here maybe he is not popular, and even if you fool around a lot, it’s still uncomfortable for him in general, it’s not some internal awkwardness, as far as the elections can play, some role, as far as the russian society can offer something, some option, to show that it is not satisfied, maybe without a demonstration, here they tell me, friends, that there is simply such a proposal in the opposition, to come

exactly at... exactly at 12:00 in the afternoon to the ballot boxes in general, create a lot of queues there everywhere people as an indicator of the fact that what are we against when the whole of russia goes out to vote at 12 o'clock, well, there are some not-so-bright outbreaks of protest, what is possible, what can be expected from this, in my opinion, this is march 17? yes, no, of course, this action, which is supposed to take place in march , has nothing to do with the elections... it's such an absolute farce, i would say that there will be specially selected actors, and the main tasks of all actors, except for the main actor, except for the premiere of putin's performance, the task is to highlight with his insignificance, to somehow emphasize the greatness of the main, main means the russian

dictator, and he is the main actor in this... a farce, quite dirty, and a farce called elections, that is interesting, that this time , apparently, they will deliberately select people according to certain criteria for the elections, as putin's partners, that is, even such people as prokhorov in his time, you don't have to wait, there will be people, the main criterion is that people must be older or something like the same age as putin, obviously his ego is not physically healthy, and people who are clearly completely unable to pose any kind of threat, gain any electoral potential, even meganov passes under all conditions, you listed everything, as it were, all the frameworks for zyuganov, absolutely, here is zyuganov, that is why the communists are nominating zyuganov this time, last time they nominated older, younger candidates, so he suddenly started gaining quite a large percentage, the authorities had to extinguish his popularity with the help of

a black pr campaign. and zyuganov in general absolutely, this will be such a show of living corpses, yes, that is, an absolutely living corpse of the zyuganovs , i don't know anymore, i have the feeling that he rotted from the inside back in the nineties, that this is only some kind of shell. finds him, gives an interview on tv, it somehow glows, and there is already a corpse behind her, rotting, that is, there is a possibility that they can pull out evlynsky, he also meets all the criteria, there is another liberal potential candidate, boris boryvych nadezhdin, so he he even said directly that i am an old , sick person, and i have no chance, and so, the kremlin is afraid of me, like, please let me go to the elections, so... it can be allowed, so this will be a show of this kind, and now can the opposition somehow use it for protest, for politicization, etc. - well, it should be said that such discussions are going on in the russian opposition, i know this for myself from

the discussions that are going on in those organizations with which i cooperate, such as the forum of free russia, different opinions are expressed, of course, how boring is sitting at home, but i am not yet i see some, i don't see any real ones. in order to turn this farce into something real, i am afraid that any participation of the opposition in this will be either in the role, in the role of spectators in this farce or in the role of actors in this farce, which i do not want to do the second, actually , i have such a forecast that until finally the presidential administration puts on this show with complete confidence, putin is generally quite calm, he believes that he has nothing to fear, on the contrary, they are putting something in favor of... an unprecedented amount this time for putin to attribute and i think they will not have any problems with this, i think that how problems can begin with putin only in one case, if by the time of the elections,

some force majeure events will occur for him, as at the front, for example, for example, yes, for example, the russian troops will suffer some kind of resounding defeat there, and this will cause some kind of... intra-lithic irritation, an intra-lithic attempt to get rid of him, because by and large the elite of the ruling russian elite, it is definitely motivated to get rid of putin, it is far from not in delighted that he wants to put himself in the kremlin again, that means on the throne, there are still another 5 years, they do not want this at all, because putin knows that for them this is a breakdown of the usual way of life, they are generally syborites, they not some ideological cheer patriot. imperialists, it’s all chatter, they’re crazy, they want to live well, beautifully and peacefully, all this nervousness that putin arranged with military sanctions, they are completely unnecessary, it happens here somehow, different russians come to europe, russians,

from russia are still there status people, status people people tell all kinds of interesting things, for example, just recently , one such high-status person from the liberal part of putin's, let's say, camp, told me that when two people... they meet, they are putin's henchmen, they are all against the war, putin is fed up, but as soon as three or four people appear there, they immediately fall down, which means prostration caused simply by fear, people are simply afraid for now, i think that at some point this fear may end, they will simply understand that putin is for they are a bigger threat , than whatever it is, i mean his continued stay in power, igor, look, it's a very important question, i'm following it, i, i think i'm in the minority, but i'm very... . i am carefully trying to watch what is happening in russia with the opposition, not with the opposition , now i will tell the audience, because you probably know about it, but everyone knows that there are bots, such automatic machines, which, well, or semiautomatic machines, who say, well, some

narratives are bad, and now it means that someone in russia from the russian opposition said that let's make elves, that is, these are such boots, but good ones, and i was terribly surprised when i saw a huge... not even a discussion, but a quarrel among russian oppositionists, that this is bad, no, it's good, it's right, it's wrong , this is what i will say nonsense now, because all countries are different, but i remember ukraine 13-14 hours ago, nationalists and liberals gathered here, because everyone understood the danger of yanukovych, everyone understood the danger for ukraine from yanukovych and from his friendship with russia. therefore the whole spectrum

completely opposite ideological people gathered and began to oppose the power of yanukovych in russia, any match turns into some kind of fire, everything is against everyone , there is no opposition, there is no logic, there is no agenda, how is it in russian, but tell me, i don’t remember how in russian, well, in short, in general, there is no scheme how to... act, tell me, your version, maybe i am wrong, maybe there is some at least the rudiments of unity understanding that the main enemy is not the second opposition , and he is sitting there in the kremlin. you understand what's the matter, i think that's what these are problems, they were maddened, yes, because when the ukrainian opposition united, they understood that protikovych was the same, that victory is possible, victory is possible, with their forces, and it is necessary to unite for this, because now, even if disparate groups of the opposition unite, they will not do anything with this regime from below, because the regime, the regime can, i think, now fall only from above, which means that some popular demonstrations in the conditions of an absolutely totalitarian already essentially regime, dictatorship, totalitarian,

outrages about these so-called security forces, the reality of rapists, it is almost impossible, recently such a girl, a skolpinka, was imprisoned for 7 years for the fact that she replaced the price tags in several stores with anti-war, but completely, completely herbivorous appeals, there was nothing there, no luck to putin, but there is simply peace for peace and against war, here she was imprisoned for 7 years, for 7 years and... there are many examples, people in such a situation are simply afraid to stick out, as they say, or run abroad, where they cannot do anything , here like me, for example, in germany , that we feel to a great extent the disconnection of what is already happening in the country, or in russia then there are two options: quickly go to prison, you will not have time to do anything else, change a couple of price tags in gastronomy and you will already be crushed and for 7 years, he has been resting on naaras, yes or... they quiet down and sit, what is called no, no, some heroes, i

just can't name skolchenko in another way, they preferred to go to prison in this situation, but heroic behavior, it is not characteristic of most people, heroes always little, so i think that putin 's regime can fall most likely from its own internal contradictions, which are very strong, and we see how in the summer during the rebellion prigozhin was just a hair's breadth from collapse, then it's just not a polo card... yes yes, he survived, but this does not mean that such events will not happen again, i think that they may well happen again, by the way, these elections may be the detonator of these events to some extent, why? because they psychologically speak, the same russian belief that it will take another 5 years - tolerate this nonsense of an inadequate person in power, who can directly drag him into a confrontation in a larger party and in anything, therefore, as i have already said, it can be purely like this, look at it.

i have a question for you, as for a resident of berlin, now , i will call the name and surname hubert seipel, this is a person and for the viewers of the program, i will say that this is a person who wrote many different books about putin, met putin, they loved him terribly, respected him terribly, were terribly proud of him, everything is such a person, a wonderful journalist who somehow managed to understand putin, went to him and spoke directly with him, then it turned out that this was an fsb special operation, that he was specially paid money, specially told to putin that this person should be accepted, such questions should be heard on and this is how they are answered, in short, all this is absolute , well, fiction, and not the work of journalists, as far as it is known, and as much as the press writes about it, as far as it is some factor in life? germans, this, this is

what they paid attention to, or this is so, we only ob to those who don't like putin, we have everything that is against putin, of course, we pay attention, but what in germany, no, they also paid attention to it in germany, it's a megascandal, a megascandal, they write a lot about it and talk about it on television , up to the fact that the hamburg publishing house, which published his books, refused to cooperate with him, removed them from stores, that is. emu oxygen after this will be cut for sure, because he even lied even more brazenly, he was asked on all kinds of tv shows, and you love putin for free or still for money? he was indignant, made an innocent face, such a person, you know, or a complete girl, who has not yet managed to lose her virginity, how is it possible, i yes for money, yes never, in such a spirit, of course they reminded him now of all this, but the second question is not in this, in the fact that he is not the only one, there are a whole lot of such idiots in putin's, the special services of the oligarchs there were paid by the oligarch melnichenko,

so they have herds of these idiots there in germany, and there is a much more popular one, there is such a shmalaltz crown , which belongs to, by the way, the term putin fershter, that is, to understand putin, that you need to understand putin, her books differ much better, she is even more popular, they have not taken her hand yet, they just took him by the hand completely by accident, just his last name, agreement with him, there was a dossier in the papers, which... made public the cypriot , actually, they did not get into these documents, he would have continued to function normally in germany, the crown prince continues, they have not taken her by the hand yet, and people like her thank you, thank you, igor eidman, russian sociologist, a political expert, publicist, from berlin was with us. thank you, mr. igor. and we go, we go further, further to us, finland. somehow, you know,

there are different events happening in finland. somehow we always think about finland that it is quite far away, it is quite cold there. well, as it were, if some russian factors appear nearby, then we mention finland , right now these factors appear daily, i ask with your permission, anna lena, you already hear us, see, hear us, yes, and i would like to say that we will try to avoid the russian language, because anna lena lauren, a finnish journalist and writer, she studied the ukrainian language and i'm learning the ukrainian language right now, it's not a percentage, but i'm trying very hard, uh, oh, you see, and i, so far, not 100% yet, will be , it will be, i will try to speak slowly in ukrainian so that anna eva would understand, and

also answer slowly, i understand that i would also speak finnish very slowly, believe me. so, why did finland close the border with russia, that there was such a thing on the border that the very calm finns decided, we don't want anymore, to keep the border with russia open, well first of all, filenne did not move, they did not completely close the border, we have eight points. at the border crossings, they closed four, four that are close to peter , and well, what happened, a week ago they began to observe that suddenly the russian border guards began to let in people who have a schengen

visa, eh, that is, there are reactions, including there were, there were a lot of reactions, somalis , yemenites, citizens who do not have the right, i do not have the right to come to finland without a visa, but even before the russians did not let them in, like finland they don't let people into russia without a russian visa, but now they started letting them in, and finland, to be honest, i'm a little surprised myself, because i usually go to finland... well, it reacts slowly, but now it reacted just instantly, they don't want the same situation, as it was in belarus, when lukashenko sent thousands of madmen to poland, and they immediately closed four

crossing points, and now i, it seems to me that it is very possible, will close the last four, i am. well, if the russians don't continue to send these migrants to finland, then i will close, i also want to add that so far there has not been such a situation as in belarus with poland, that is, there are now, i think , a few hundred, there are not thousands, so far putin has not covered a direct flight, moscow was erbil, moscow, or erbil, st. petersburg, as lukashenko did, that so far the situation is not, well, it is manageable, but it is not the russians who are going, it is exactly that, africans, asians, as you said, somalia, iraq, yemen, it is not russians, yes, it's not russians, it's, it's

migrants who, well, many of them have been for a long time live in russia, and we, we understand that they have organized it all, and they come with bicycles and scooters, since in finland it is impossible to walk, but you have to go by car or bicycle, and then apply for the status of obbechnitsa in finland, which are not receive, i think that 90% will not receive it, and if a russian has schengen, he can pass, have the barriers been closed? fully four eyes, such a woman can’t, she can only when he has a job in finland or a close relative or goes to treatment, but this treatment, that ’s all, that doesn’t work at all, well, i don’t

i know, i don’t know a single russian, how did i come, these are only those who study, work or have relatives, one more question is important, it seems to me that there are people who in the past, in the past, came to finland, got real estate, apartments, houses live in finland, and there is a threat for them, there is danger, does the finnish government think about these people, well, for example, in latvia they said, if you do not know latvian, the latvian language, you have not passed the exams, you have problems, in finland, as far as residents, residents of finland, who a year or five or 10 ago moved to finland, they may have...problems, well, now we have a nationalist

party in the government, the real ones are called phils, and they want, not only them, i think that the ruling party, as well as the biggest parties, also want to tighten the rules, in order to get citizenship in finland, you need to know finnish or swedish, finland is an official country, you need to... they will increase the term when you have lived in finland permanently, and they also talked about some kind of exam, so that you need to show that you you know about finland, the history of society, but not yet decided for sure, and that’s all , i think it’s not, it’s not related to the situation with russia’s war against ukraine, it’s generally such an answer, because now globalization, a lot of... migrants, we need to somehow protect our society, language, but

, but this is also connected with the war, because in general the situation has radically changed in finland, in many ways, before, but i would say that the finns are finns on one side, well, according to our history, we know that everything, whatever maybe, but the last 15, 20 years, we began to think russia attacked ukraine , a lot of ideas have changed a lot, and you are a finnish person, but of swedish origin, the question about sweden, well, i'm really me, i'm a finnish person, i know finnish.

against the ussr, but we are simply all swedish-speaking, like you have hungarian-speaking or crimean tatars, we don’t care, we are finnish anyway, okay, but the question is, what happens to the fact that in sweden, the door to nato opens, then it closes, the action of the swedes, what are the swedes, they just sit and wait, do they somehow do something, somehow try anyway to join nato. that turkey, and turkey, and hungary, also, the magyars, your brothers, by the way, finnish brothers, the magyars are finno-ugric , they are your brothers, well, i think when, when they started, this process, finland and sweden, we are both they said that we would join nato hand in hand, until it seemed that erdoğan started

all kinds of trouble, finland, since we have a border of 1,300 km with russia, erdoğan had no problem with us, we went faster in the morning, it's just a question security, and the swedes, the swedes understood it, i think they were a little offended, but they understood, of course, and well, the enemy had such a tactic that we tried to negotiate with erdoğan, the prime minister was trying to go to istanbul to negotiate, but it turned out that he was simply destroyed, so that was very, very bad, bad visit, and now sweden, i would say, is doing very little, sitting, waiting and waiting for the americans, really, they are the americans. they just have to show erdoğan their place, they haven’t really shown it yet, and the swedes are waiting, i

have absolutely no doubt that sweden will davolna soon in nato. but erdoğan constantly comes up with all kinds of new so-called problems, although there is no problem, it is that there are many kurrov in sweden, that is the problem , and yes, well, by the way, in sweden, it is about finland, we are returning from stockholm to hellka , in sweden there is. the problem of migrants and crime, hooligans, i read from time to time that what is the situation in finland, how much finland does not have these, these, these problems, these groups, and foreign ones that create mafia such and such mafia groups, and sweden also has a problem, and now i have a question

finland, as you have it, well, we have it in finland. there are also, but it is not at all on such a scale as in sweden, because there are a lot of migrants in sweden, and there now i am afraid to make a mistake, but i think that now more than 20% of swedes, well, citizens of sweden, either, or of second origin or was born in another country, and well, i want, i want to emphasize that they gave a lot to sweden, there, culture, music, there is a lot, there is a lot... progress, but there is such a thing, this is the problem with banditry , unfortunately, it is growing every day, and the problem was that before they didn't want to talk about it, they were afraid that they, well, that someone would think that they were racists, but now i'm

speaking very firmly, but that's really the case, now they say , in finland, we have less, well, we have a problem, well, why, why did the finns treat migrants cautiously, and the swedes carelessly, let’s say, this is a very, very good question, well, there is one very simple, simple answer, in finland , well , we are still always waiting for the loudest, finns are very careful, we need to, we do everything quite, usually, quite slowly, all changes are slow, don’t need to... i don’t immediately think that everything will be good, although i only said that they started to think that the world was good, but it turned out to be wrong, even though we have a mentality of - due to the fact that we had so many wars with russia and the soviet union, that we understand that we need to be careful, and sweden is an old empire, the whole of sweden destroyed the entire baltic

sea, 400 years ago. and the culture is more, it is more, it is more open, and also, which is very interesting for me, the swedes, they are sincerely believe that the whole world wants to live like us, that the whole world wants to be swedes, they believe that those who come, they really want to become swedes, they are sincerely surprised when it doesn't work out, not quite. well, it works with many, but not with everyone, and there was such a mentality, for a very long time, only now they understood that it was not quite , thank you very much, anna lena lauren, a finnish journalist and writer was with us and we even spoke in ukrainian, maybe not so perfect, but still definitely better than me speaking finnish or swedish,

this is the end of our conversation, ours with you, as i promised, it goes on until 8:00 p.m., and now exactly 4 seconds later 8:00 p.m. begins, all is well. it's 8 p.m. in ukraine, which means it 's news time on the espresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval, greetings to all viewers. russia shelled the nikopol district of dnipropetrovsk region several times during the day. with heavy artillery , the occupiers fired at marganetska and chervonogrihorivska communities and the city of nikopol, the head of the region, serhiy