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for decades, which in principle ensured the success of his state, that it must be understood that this success was largely ensured by this very procedure of transfer of power, i can explain why? ugh, because the normal procedure for the transfer of power is democratic elections, in countries such as the people 's republic of china, because the communists won there in the civil war with the help of joseph stalin, there are no democratic elections. the island of taiwan remained the only center of democracy. and that's it, i would say the monopoly rule, not even by a party, but by a man, which we observed from 45 to 1976, until the death of mautzedoon, led to a complete collapse, political life, economy, degradation of everything, clan struggles, so that after the death of mautzedoon, his associates had to to arrest his wife, dzyantsin and the closest associates of the leader, this is degradation. denziopin, who essentially led
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the country after this crisis, was able to offer china, a change of leaders, a rotation of leaders, this rotation of leaders somehow ensured, the ability to polemic, the ability to debate, the ability to make the right decisions. cidzenpin, considering only the fact that he has... both powers, broke it, and when a person breaks such a system, one can only expect disaster, because he stops consulting with others, he stops taking into account other opinions, he becomes vulnerable to with his manias and phobias, and by the way, what is happening in china lately, the mysterious disappearance of the minister of foreign affairs qinghani, where is he anyway, where is qinghan, the mysterious disappearance of the minister defense of lishanfu, where is he, where.
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there is also no one, there is no one, these are people who were the closest associates of xi jinping, whom he promoted to these positions, not only ministers, but also members of the council, they did not leave their positions, they disappeared in an unknown direction, this happened only in the times of mao, a disaster with economic policy, first a policy of zero tolerance to the coronavirus, then an instant one, a whirlwind. from this policy, which may have led to the death of hundreds of thousands of people, and the lack of economic growth results, so of course the president the united states can be considered an adult, but his interlocutor is an ordinary totalitarian dictator, and he is talking to him only because his situation is no better now, as the president of the united states himself said, so the only thing that is important to me in this
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meeting, that this dialogue is taking place at all, but it... does not guarantee anyone from anything, i do not think that the meeting between the president of the united states and the president of the people's republic of china somehow moves us away from the third world war, because in general i think that the third world war no will be, and it is impossible, because the third world war is a nuclear component, it is the death of tens of millions of people, it is the disappearance of a large part of civilization, it is not beneficial for dictatorships and democracy , there will be no third world war that could resolve the contradictions between democracy and dictatorship , there will be... constant local wars that will lead to the death of a large number of people permanently throughout the 21st century, the entire 21st century will be spent in local wars, there will be no peacetime, so i would advise our compatriots to abandon the word peace, understand that the last peaceful day in their lives was february 24 , 2022, then there will be a war, and this is the life of them, their children, their grandchildren, great-grandchildren - this is a war, we just live in it, but it is necessary that it not
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was on our territory, if it will be on the territory of other countries , if we monitor this war, if we count other people's victims, if we spend money on humanitarian aid to other countries, if we look at humanitarian disasters in other countries, of course it will be marked and on us, on the climate, on ecology, on the continuation of people's lives, as long as they live, people will fall into unexpected disasters, all this will be and all this will be such a commonplace that no one will pay attention to. in addition to the direct victims of these disasters, but there will be peaceful parts of the world, you know, this is like an ocean and there will be land, and our task is simply that we are on land, for now we are one of the great training grounds of these wars, and our task is not to be recorded as such landfill for the next ten years, which is very profitable, therefore that ukraine is an ideal training ground , it is not a member of the european union, it is not a member of nato, a large population, a large territory, you can test missiles, you can test drones, you can test new weapons, you can.
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not to risk anything, because it is not a nuclear power, it cannot respond with nuclear weapons, if anything, so in principle, if i were the president of russia or the head of the people's republic of china, i would experiment with ukraine for another 20 years, but there is another democratic world that we should hope for from the point of view of the end of this war, at least on the major part of our territory, let's talk about it, this week anders fogh rasmursen, i will just remind you that he is the former secretary general of nato, said that ukraine can join the north atlantic alliance before the end of the war with russia, and without temporarily occupied territories, such a scenario of the country's partial membership in the alliance will not mean a freeze in the war, the guardian expert is convinced, in particular, but rather it will serve as a warning to russia that it cannot prevent ukraine from joining the western defense bloc, and i think that will reduce the ambitions of the russian federation, attack that
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part of our country that is a member of nato, on the other hand, no part can be a member of nato, only the entire state can be a member of nato , but the umbrella will function... exclusively on the territories controlled by us, the umbrella will function exclusively on the territories controlled by us, but a country can join nato only if all its territorial integrity is internationally recognized, it is important to simply emphasize once again, because after this statement by the former secretary general of nato, conversations began that we should pay for peace with the territories, and this must be clearly said, first of all, no one says that we will pay for peace, there will be no peace, the russian federation. does not want any peace, she wants to fight here as long as possible, to the last ukrainian, so she will fight on those territories where she can fight, the question is what are the borders of these territories. the former secretary general of nato had in mind the idea of localizing the conflict, what if we enter
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to nato, then we are told, you know, that ukraine's security is guaranteed only in these territories that are controlled by you, i even allow the option that russia does not... this can also be an option, here she wrote something stupid in her constitution, we think that this is stupid, but we do not distribute security guarantees, but we distribute what it does not legally claim, we say in russia, but this is not your territory, you certainly do not distribute, you do not have anything to do with it nothing to do with it, here we are giving this territory a security guarantee, this is complete madness, of course, but it can also be so, there may be nato member countries that will offer such an option, you understand, but in any case it is a way to localize the conflict, because russia will know for sure that if it crosses the red line, the demarcation line, then this is not a conflict with ukraine, huh, but with nato, let’s go the other way around, but does this idea not interfere
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with our desire to recapture our territories, if no one prevents us from recapturing our territory, why does it interfere, well, if we we become a member of the northern and umbrella though would partially cover the territories of our country, will we not have to coordinate more carefully with our nato partners all our movements towards the deoccupation of our territories, will they not stop us because they are afraid of a confrontation with russia, because we have already seen how missiles fall in poland and what kind of reaction it causes, for example, we see that the world is in principle occupied, and we cannot condemn a balanced position for this... because not wanting war and confrontation with a major nuclear power is normal. i believe that if no one will ask questions about our territorial integrity, then as a sovereign state, we have every right to defend our borders, and i as by military and political means, but why don't you want to look at it from the other side,
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if we are not a member of nato and do not receive security guarantees, will it not lead does it result in the loss of some more territory of ukraine? that is, will a few more ukrainian regions, with a large number of refugees, join the regions currently occupied by the russian federation, with their transformation into subjects of the russian federation in quotation marks in the russian constitution, with the new suffering of the ukrainian people, let it happen not on the 24th, but on the 25th-26th, because i repeat, we are talking about a war that does not have its temporal end, and which is, one can say for the russian federation a real festival of power and self... attention, if we talk about the chauvinist complex, which is now welcomed by the vast majority of the citizens of the russian federation, let's not forget that vladimir putin in his war and desire to destroy the ukrainian people relies on the absolute support of the citizens of russia,
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sure that they are fighting for the territory of historical russia, for the return of which any price can be paid, how to stop this influx of people who are sure that they are fighting for their own, when we know for sure that they are fighting for someone else's, that's the question , i will honestly tell you that i... i do not think that the idea of the former secretary general of nato will be implemented, most likely there is a negative option, and not a positive development of events, and therefore i looked at the possibility of an intermediate option. of course, we are unlikely to be nato members if our issue is not resolved territorial integrity. i don't even think that we will ever be members of the european union, if the issue of our territorial integrity is not resolved, because for many countries of the european union, it will be confusing, and how do we accept ukraine, and what do we do with its territories, that is as now the president of moldova says that let's accept moldova without transnistria, and how? that is, between ukraine and moldova there will be such an enclave surrounded from all sides by the territories
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of the european union, but in fact controlled by the russian federation illegitimately, i do not know this is a question, the world is changing, anything can happen, but i say for today, i would think that at the washington nato summit we should at least receive an invitation to the alliance, and as part of this invitation we should demand security guarantees from the country . members, from the united states, from great britain, from the nuclear countries, as sweden and finland did when they applied to nato and received an invitation, and maybe in this situation we could get such security guarantees, but in this situations on a limited basis territory, it would not be a question of membership, but simply security guarantees for a certain territory, it would not tie our hands and stop russia, of course, because membership in nato, to be honest, is an illusion. well, if you really look at things, it's very good that rasmosen is talking about it, and i, as you
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remember, talked about it, told you that such ideas are functioning, they have been functioning since the spring of last year, it's just that they have finally been voiced, and there will be more and more people who will voice, with the time of the war, just imagine, now 21 months of the war, when 24 months will pass, and then 48, and then 56, and then 78, and then 122, and then 248, their ideas will be even more, with every year of the russian-ukrainian war, there will be more and more ideas on how to stop it, if and about it will certainly not be forgotten in wedge conflicts, and again, this is real, we understand that we are in a conflict that looks long-lasting, because it gives our enemy an opportunity, not destroys him, but gives him a real opportunity, russia literally lives by war , i don't know at all what they will do if they end this war, they found him a second wind in this war. political, fortunately not economic, so there may be a thing here, and i would like us to stop it
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until these 48 months are gone, 56, so that at least we localize the conflict, especially there is another danger, i i think that the continuation of the russian-ukrainian war will fuel new conflicts, but the middle east is not an accidental conflict , no, we talked about it in the last program, so there will be a lot of new things, but it is clear that now there when sidzelpin met with joseph biden, he is preparing for new ones conflicts, he just wants these conflicts to be discussed, to have a consultation mechanism, not to go beyond some limits, to feel safe when the united states will stand behind some proxy powers, especially when china will stand behind some proxies - with the forces that will paralyze the united states, moreover, you understand how all this is already beneficial to the chinese , look at the russian-ukrainian war, russia... is weakening, the west is weakening, ukraine is weakening, everything is just lying there, ready for
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economic conquest, the entire territory of europe and eurasia, for a few more years, opportunities are still increasing in china, will come up with the idea that china itself is not growing, it is in a marginal situation, and then it needs all of us to be marginalized even more, so that the situation here, in this conditional world from vladivostok before lisbon was worse than in china, and then he will be able to beat it, huh, and therefore, of course, it is very important to him that we fight each other, that russia attacks ukraine, that ukraine receives help from europe, that europe spends resources to help ukraine, this is all a wonderful situation, but in this situation, it is necessary not to quarrel with america, here is a bipolar world in sidzenpin's editorial office, where we will be marginal, and china will negotiate with the americans on cooperation. that's all, the fact that putin, in fact, against not only our interests, but also
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russian interests, creates such a world for sydzenpin, this is the level of his madness, simply because, in fact, russia has no special place in this world as an independent player. colleagues from the woll street journal note that sydzenpen in the united states did not, did not no attempt to bring back us investors who had distanced themselves. in recent years, why? because the economic situation, we talked about it, they are not very cool in china, and they were, should be interested in this, but xi jinping. does not make these attempts, well, maybe because we overestimate his economic competence, or maybe because he wants to blackmail the united states, but if he invites american investors, then they realize that he needs them, he is one of those players who want to they came to him, he is the emperor, the red emperor, the first
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red emperor after mao, and he wants these investors to come to him, especially since the behavior of people like elon musk, we see that he is right that it is early sooner or later certain people will definitely turn to him, here a lot will depend on the extent to which it will be possible to move and repurpose the production that is currently located on the territory of the people's republic of china, india, mexico, mexico may become the burial ground of the chinese economy, now many observers say that mexico is becoming a new economic tiger. as you understand, for the americans to put production in mexico, it's much closer, much, it's just there what you have to go over with the ships, all these tankers, all these huge steamships that go between the oceans, just get on a truck, and in a few hours you are in
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the right place, so i am for mexico, vivala mexico, that's it. i really want mexico to put an end to chinese influence on the world economy, so that china takes the place which it should occupy in the economy, of an asian state that should find its own ways to economic development, and this may help the destruction of the regime of the communist party of china and the democratization of this country and the unification of taiwan with china under the flag of taiwan, and not under the flag of beijing. do you think this is possible someday? i think democracy. always wins, even if it takes ten years of waiting, because an authoritarian regime is always ineffective, of course, along the way it will shed rivers of blood and tens of millions of people will die, but after he will lose this, let's move a little closer to our internal topics, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyy said that russia actually included another
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disinformation plan, which has the code name maidan-3, referring to the 2004-2014 uprising in the central square of our capital, our intelligence has information that also came from our partners, the maidan for them is a coup, so the operation is understandable - says zelenskyi, speaking to foreign journalists. to be honest, i tried to feel the connotation of this turn of maidan-3, with from the mouth of the ukrainian president, and i think i caught something so unpleasant for him. very often, i understand that the president spoke about maidan 3, precisely the russian interpretation of the maidan, not his own, said that the maidan for them is a coup, not for us, as we know, the maidans were not coups, so the first is yes, but, again, the maidan for the politicians who are in power at the time of the implementation of this revolution is, well, not always
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a good story, both maidans ended with a decision that will be made in the verkhovna rada of ukraine and what about the resignation of president viktor yanukovych, who left our country, all these decisions were made by deputies. in the current verkhovna rada, the majority is held by the servant of the people party, whose deputies appeared in the session hall only thanks to one single circumstance, that the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky campaigned for them. these deputies are their careers. owed to one single person and i don't really understand how they can stage a coup so i don't understand what they are talking about maybe the president has more information, perhaps he means that such a coup can take place outside the parliament, but then the question arises, what will be the legitimacy of the power that will be established in kyiv, what kind of power will it be, who will obey it, again,
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if we if we imagine russia, then of course in russia with its centralism it is enough to capture... the kremlin so that all the regions of the russian federation, although i don't know now, by the way, but it was like that before, swore to the new new government. it was so in 1991, it is true because it prevails the majority of russian regions, not the majority, all but moscow and st. petersburg supported the gkkp. well, the gkp was not supported only by moscow, the moscow city hall, headed by havriy popovov and his deputy yuriy lushkov, is asking. led by anatoly sepchuk and his deputy putin, but everyone else supported, and as a result they won, those who were against the ghp and all the other regions said, well, that's how it should be, and in this situation it would be possible to think that in russia now, if there is a putsch, then the one who wins will be the one
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to rule, but in ukraine the situation is completely different, as you remember, even during the maidan, in 2014, our regional authorities did not agree with viktor yanukovych's actions, and i imagine that now some person would seize power in kyiv , in which the ukrainian regions agreed: in order to make decisions related to the orders of this person, maybe only an ordinary beekeeper would do it, there would be no one else, and they are already subjects of the russian federation, well, in the benches, yes in the benches, of course, in the benches for sure, that's it in any case, well, a bushy beehive in itself is a subject of the russian federation, not donetsk and luhansk regions, and in this situation, of course, i don't really believe in it, so i don't understand what it's about, but this the president's conversation with journalists, could it be that he wanted to somehow emphasize the destabilizing activities of the russian federation, i assume that this is so, and recently
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there is a lot of information, which, again, fortunately , is not confirmed, about the possibility of resignations in the military leadership of our country, we with you talked about it last week, this week there was such information again, it was again not confirmed, and the ministry of defense of ukraine had to come out... and say, everything is okay, in principle there are no problems, and at least we definitely do not have such plans , maybe the president of ukraine is talking about this coup, when the military can seize power at the request of martial law, well, i don’t know why and for what, but why should the military obey if they take it, why are we even discussing some kind of conspiracy, i i am not talking about the fact that reshuffles in the military command are the prerogatives of the political leadership of the country, citizens may have sympathy for certain figures in the military command, but they are also created on the basis of information in the media, and not on the fact that we know exactly who performs which functions
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, who does what, this must also be realized, and if we have an effective tandem of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, the president of ukraine, the commander of the armed forces, general zaluzhnyi, then these are the personnel decisions, these personnel bases, on which now effective work of the armed forces is based. but it can be different, so what, that’s also clear, eh, tell me, and you, you understand, the results and in general the intention of the visit of our, i emphasize the government delegation and the head of the office of the president andriy yermak to the united states, the other day this one, well, if we need to hold a conversation with american government officials, taking into account the difficult situation that is now with our support, which is strange here, many people... call it a congress fair in the united states, as if the head of the office of the president of ukraine is performing his duties , which correspond to
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duty national security adviser to the president, he is a confidant of the national security adviser to the president of the united states, mr. sullivan, exactly the same role he played when there were consultations with the russians, he played the role of a confidant to the deputy chief of staff of the russian president, dmitry kozak , so it's not a question of what it's called. these positions, the question is what functions a person performs, if andriy yermak is perceived in washington as a person who conducts consultations with mr. stalivno, then who should go to the liaison office staff, i don't understand, uh, he doesn't have them, so leave all questions about it, well, of course, it's official duty, if the president has some other person who can perform these duties informally, we don't have such a position, the secretary of the national defense security council is a different position, if the president believes that the head of his office performs similar duties within the administration, and not... logically, those performed by mr. sullivan within the administration of the president of the united states, then they should meet and talk, that's all, what questions, okay,
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thank you for this thesis, and operation pinocchio, many, many people in ukraine were shaken this week, you know, this has never happened before, and here again, in fact, the deputies of dubinsky are now suspecting treason, and we return to the thesis that the ukrainian parliament contains a large number of people who actually entered the verkhovna rada under different brands, sometimes even under the brand of president zelenskyi, it is possible that scoundrels could get into the verkhovna rada, again, law enforcement agencies should dot the dots over and, and the court decision should be, first of all, but what is this story about? about the fact that the parliament is a mirror of society, the citizens of ukraine voted for mr. dzubinka, as far as i remember, he is not at all a deputy from the lists, or a deputy from the lists, i don't remember if he was elected by majority vote. speaker, yes, this is a question not only of the responsibility of the president of ukraine, under whose brand, indeed, this famous tv journalist, a colleague of volodymyr
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zelenskyi on the 1.1 tv channel, appeared in ukraine, and this is also a question for the people who he was voted for by those who watched his television programs. yes, it’s not nooneim, you see, in the servant of the people party, 95% of the people are unknown people, and the people who voted for them can say, oh, but we didn’t know anything, we’re not responsible for anything, we just i really like volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi , and you don't like him, he is the best president who was in ukraine, and we can hear that, but you can't say the same about dubinsky if you see the person on the television screen. you know who it is, well, that's all, so that's it the responsibility of ukrainian citizens, who for all the decisions they made, in general, for everything that happens in our country, is always the responsibility of the majority that votes for something, you understand, well, the president said that each of us is a president, and if you vote for an fsb agent, it's not as if each of you fsb agents who voted for him , you can't say that, well, you can't, probably, but next time be careful, 94th
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district, kyiv region. well, that's what i'm talking about, because all, you know, people, we are small people, we were cheated here, we voted, it doesn’t happen like that, you are citizens of ukraine, not russia, it is in russia that you vote for everything that is pushed, the hero of your sympathies, president vladimir putin, in ukraine you should vote for those you you consider worthy of a deputy's mandate, all the more so, i repeat, deputy. when he was a journalist, he did not come to anything special, he underwent a certain evolution, he was first an economic journalist there, wrote some texts about the economy, i remember it well, because i talked with him a lot at that time, he was a guest of many of my broadcasts, and then some political transformation took place, i think, connected with his acquaintance with a well-known ukrainian oligarch, who is also now in detention, maybe it happened earlier, because when i now analyze
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the economic experts that sasha recommended for programs, then all these people later turned out to be in a camp, to put it mildly unsavory, to put it mildly, associated with viktor yanukovych and pro-russian forces, so he was targeting them even then, but then somehow he succeeded and they succeeded it to hide, at some point they probably decided that it was no longer necessary to hide, that they had already grabbed this oligarch by the beard, and that was it. and everything became clear, but not only to me, everything became clear to all ukrainians , i simply made one conclusion, and the vast majority of ukrainian citizens made another, now, thanks to this conclusion, we live in those realities in which we live and do not have no real chance of getting out of these realities in the lifetime of these voters, uh, pessimistic, but, come on, not out of war, okay, do you have some caveats,
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fears, maybe about? how many such networks and agents there are, perhaps, once again we are waiting for the results of the work of law enforcement agencies , actually incorporated into our system, into the state system, into various institutions, may i explain something to you, come on, we do not have any state system, look at the countries that joined the european union, from the former soviet republics or socialist countries, latvia, lithuania, estonia, what they did in 1991, even earlier, before that, imagine, i was at a meeting of the lithuanian parliament, even before the collapse of the soviet union, where a new prosecutor general of the republic of lithuania, arturas paulaus, was appointed, who was tasked with forming a new prosecutor general's office of the republic of lithuania, because it was believed that the people who were the heads of the prosecutor general's office of the lithuanian ssr were not prosecutors,
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the prosecutor general's office of the lithuanian ssr could not to be the prosecutor's office of lithuania, because it is not lithuania, but an occupied territory, in 1991, after lithuania finally regained its independence and the soviet troops had to go for its territories, the soviet troops had to go for its territories, ugh, a new army was formed. the state security committee of the lithuanian ssr was closed, all of its employees were dismissed, officials of almost all state institutions of the lithuanian ssr, all new structures were created, maybe some people remained in the criminal bodies of the ministry of internal affairs, but i am not sure either, because as far as i remember, many people who were simply there as policemen or militiamen recertified them.
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