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discussion by american politicians of further military aid for ukraine , the head of the us ministry of defense, lloyd austin, arrived in kyiv with an unannounced visit, why and with what news about this , a serious personnel rotation will soon take place in the army. the day before , volodymyr zelenskyi replaced tetyana ostashchenko, who was criticized for poor-quality tourniquets and first-aid kits, as the commander of the medical forces of the ukrainian armed forces, and major anatoliy kazmirchuk became the new commander of the medical forces. what is wrong with the medical forces of the armed forces of ukraine, what changes do they need, and why about the problems there the authorities began to speak out loud only now. about it today in svoboda live, like this broadcast, let's get started. well, let's start with a report about how air defense fighters from the 129th anti-aircraft missile regiment fight on british equipment that they received in the summer of that year, in particular about

the stormer anti-aircraft missile complex, an exclusive report by radio svoboda from donetsk region by roman pagulych . in this direction, in which we drove, we with 20 whole well-type drones, the target was destroyed 1440 different species were, that is, eagles, eagles, superkam, this is a very powerful result, the command is a mystery, there is simply an explosion in the sky, we will destroy 2300, azim. the stormer works at a range of 7-8 km, effective shooting up to 7 km somewhere, well, it’s normal to destroy

the drone, the enemy doesn’t even have a chance, that is, if we know where he flies, and he has 1450, well, we discovered the hall . combat vehicle, he hit, well, three meters from the combat vehicle, that is, it was immediately like that, i wonder if there was a lancet, or artillery, a projectile flew there or something like that, well, it did not hit a person , it was somewhere very close, well, and then, judging by chest overlap. then they discovered that there was a lancet, more than once shells and shrapnel lay in front of the car

, the crew remained whole, well, once they left for readiness , i literally don’t know, we stood for five minutes and began to fire at us, and a shell exploded in front of me, i saw him right away gas pressure and escape. star stormer great britain transferred to ukraine around the middle of the 22nd year, since that time these systems, together with soviet air defense, cover troops near the front line and work on enemy drones, although when this system was developed, the main goals that were set for it were airplanes and helicopters, drones fly a lot, and that is, we try to help the artillery, because if they fly, they fly, but the artillery does not work, the artillery does not work, does not help the infantry, and then, that is, then it is already very difficult to work, and

if everyone is working and everything is arranged, that is, well, and then the work is going well, today the head of the us department of defense, lloyd austin, arrived with an unannounced visit. this visit is taking place against the background of discussions by american politicians about further military assistance to ukraine. the us ministry of defense recently noted that aid packages for ukraine have been smaller recently, as the department does not have additional funding, and in connection with this, the pentagon has already repeatedly called on the us congress to approve this very funding. i just arrived to kyiv to meet with the ukrainian leadership, i am here today to convey an important message. the united states will continue to support ukraine in its struggle for freedom against russian aggression. both now and in the future. i will remind you that

the usa is a key ally of ukraine and the leader in the amount of military aid, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the states allocated 60 billion dollars to help ukraine. however , the white house recently announced that as of the beginning of november, the united states had already spent 96% of this amount. currently, the pentagon has a little more billion dollars to replenish ukrainian stocks before winter. in october, the us president asked congress to praise, or rather, congress to praise the $106 billion aid package, this is joint aid for ukraine and israel, where most of the money, more than $61 billion, was for ukraine. well, however, due to disagreements between democrats and republicans, this annual budget has not yet been approved. both houses of congress approved only the interim budget, which does not include aid for ukraine and also does not include for israel. at the same time, democrats and republicans publicly assured.

that the usa will continue to provide her with assistance, but just now there was news that lloyd austin , while in kyiv, had already met with president volodymyr zelsky, and i will quote, as reported by the media, he said that this is another possibility, or rather this one visit to confirm the unwavering support of ukraine from the united states, these are all words for now, how can this situation actually develop further, oleksandra ustinova, people's deputy, joins our broadcast factions golos, head of the temporary investigative commission of the verkhovna rada on issues of monitoring, receiving and using international aid during martial law. alexander, good afternoon. good evening, well, against the background of all this, these problems and challenges, or rather so to say, that ukraine now has, because of the possible perspective, perspective, or rather, the provision of american aid, against the background of all this, lloyd austin is coming, for what, what does this mean visit? there are two key things

to understand: first, americans they are trying to show, first of all, to our european partners, and of course to russia, that there is undeniably support, and even when we now talk about the fact that the congress is divided and there is no total support for ukraine, as it was at the beginning of the war, it is a little not so, because if the question of ukraine is brought to a vote now, in a package or separately, at least 300 of the 435 congressmen will vote for it. this is, as they like to say in ukraine, the constitutional majority, in our country, i will tell you honestly, there are few draft laws in ukraine such a large number of votes as the issue of ukraine is currently gaining in congress. but of course, there are a lot of manipulations, there are a lot of inciting games, especially between the two parties, which are trying to use the issue of ukraine to their advantage. second, and i, why mr. austin came, i understand that they want to discuss a detailed plan of ukraine, because after the article. general zaluzhny , neikonomst, where he said that after all

, the war had turned into a completely different format, plus taking into account the fact that events are developing in israel now, which attract attention not only america, but also the world, when i say attention, i mean not only that they are now actually the first in all the news, but that the weapons that should be delivered to ukraine, the same, for example, 155- caliber shells are now being shipped to israel. and that is why i think that one of the points that was discussed today, i know that mr. ostyan definitely met with the minister of defense, mr. umirov, and with the chairman gurbudanov, and with mr. zaluzhny, what is the current plan of ukraine in those conditions, which are because we are now we are entering a long winter and we have to understand that on the one hand we will be covered with missiles, because a huge number of them are now in russia and they have stored them, they produced three times more missiles this year than

last, and that is why we see. because right now a lot of the very focus of our international partners is on providing ukraine with more air defense so that we can protect our skies and our civilians, but on the other hand we see that not only our american partners, but also our european partners, i know that there will be several more delegations in in the next week, they want to hear what specific plans ukraine has, because the last time i was in the congress , both the senator and the congressman were asked directly, we are now going to allocate 60 billion to you, what will you achieve with these funds, that is, they... want understand clear kipi, they say, if you need not 60, but need 100, and you can explain that for an additional 40 billion you need such and such missiles, such and such types of weapons and for this you will be able, well, for example, to unblock there ... several ports and earn more money with it, trying export products, become less dependent on us in terms of helping your budget, then we can understand that, what they want to see, this is a detailed plan, not just we will stand to the last cartridge, or we will fight as long as it takes, as said earlier, everyone wants

to understand that we have a clear plan and that we now have to communicate with our partners so that they also calculate their needs. alexander, do you have a clear plan, at least... it is known that it exists and ukraine is ready to communicate this clear plan? i know for sure that we are some individual points, this is what i was brofied about, we can communicate how much , for example, specifically we need weapons to protect our grain corridor, how much we need a certain amount of anti-aircraft defense, a certain number of missiles, as for the general plan, this is known in our country only, general zaluzhnyi , commander-in-chief, the president of ukraine, i hope that they will constantly discuss this precisely at the stake, then there is such a question. and why are you so, you said at the beginning that, if i understood you correctly, you have no doubts that the funding for ukraine will be voted on, and at the same time there is a majority, an absolute majority of votes in the congress, where does such confidence come from, if it is so, if there is an absolute consensus here, why was it not done earlier in time,

as, for example, the pentagon previously demanded, turning to congress and the white house, but let me explain, in fact, the key here is not... how many votes will the ukrainian issue get when it is brought up, and the bringing up of the ukrainian issue, what, what is the difference between the american, let's say , legislation from ours, in them, even if 434, 435 deputies will be in favor of considering the issue of allocation of money from the budget for ukraine, in favor, only one person can bring it to a vote in the hall, this is the speaker, that is, only the speaker has the opportunity to vote in the hall, everything related to the budget , the problem is that, as you know, america has not had a speaker for a long time, and this is also the issue that now the republicans have a minimum number of votes, that is, plus one vote that can remove the speaker, for the speaker, it always became and for which in fact mccarthy also partially paid, the question is what if even if one person does not like what he

puts to the vote in the hall, he can be removed, now we have about 10 people who categorically do not support it. and it was these people who blocked the presentation of this issue. as far as i know, there's an agreement within, even within the republican party, we've been told by republicans, and we have pretty strong support in three key committees, it 's the foreign relations committee, it's congressman mccall -- it's the intelligence committee, congressman turner and the committee, armed services -- this, the defense committee, this is mr. rogers, that is, these the three key committees that are now actually taking care of ukraine issues, i know that this issue was raised with the speakers, i know that there was a preliminary agreement that the ukraine issue will be put to a vote, as soon as it is put to a vote, it will definitely have the majority of support, because all the democrats will vote yes and at least half of the republicans, you will be ruled, if i understand correctly, after about december 23rd, after thanksgiving, that was

the last information, november 23rd, november, the states have, the states have a bicameral legislature, after november 23, i.e. at the next session, it is expected that the question will be brought up, because this week they have a day off, next week they have a working week, next week both the house, the lower house and the upper house will sit, initially it is expected that it will be voted by the senate, the upper house, after that go to the lower house, that is, we will now have this week off, then three weeks of working congress, that is, during these three weeks, this issue will be resolved, i hope, by december 15, because after the 15 everyone goes to christmas in december. holidays until the month of january, let's say so, theoretically, because we cannot now exclude the development of any scenario, if during this period this issue is not brought up, and the financing package is not voted, what will this mean for ukraine?

in fact, it will be a very difficult time for us, because the key thing, apart from the budget support, which we will not receive for two months, is $1.1 billion in non-reimbursable aid, it is not a loan, as other countries give, it is direct aid, and the problem is that we are running out of money for weapons, and if our main program , the ukrainian security system initiative usai, ended a long time ago, then what allows us to drain our internal drains is the presidential draw down program . the money is currently going to ukraine for the supply of weapons, so they will continue to go until the end of the year. if it is not voted by january then we will have to find ways to cover our needs primarily with 155 caliber from britain and our european countries and i understand that since now britain european countries have only started production, and it will really reach the necessary minimum that we need only in the month of march, now three months, well

, for several months we will definitely ask the americans, we have already openly talked about this with them, to supply us with more and 155-caliber cluster ammunition, because this is what they have in their warehouses , it does not need to be manufactured and it is something that the israelis will not use, but we can use it, and this is what can cover the need for our first of all in the 155th hummingbird alexander, well, you often visit the united states, in particular, and advocate for further support by the states of ukraine. just the other day, us president joe biden's column for the za washington post edition was published, where he specifically noted that putin and hamas, hamas - let me remind you, are recognized as a terrorist organization in the usa and the european union, that putin and hamas pursue one goal - to erase the grievances of the neighboring democracy and for the american society, the american government justifies the necessary further assistance to ukraine from the us. how are you

do you think how convincing this explanation sounds to ordinary americans, because after all , american politicians rely on their sentiments and will rely on them, making decisions about aid to ukraine? well, i think that the main target audience of this column was ordinary citizens of the united states, primarily congressmen and senators, who will vote on the allocation of additional funds to ukraine and israel, and the main thing that president biden wanted to achieve with this is to show that this package should remain a package voting, it cannot be divided, as the lower house tried to do, a separate vote for israel, separately for ukraine, separately for abroad and other, why, because and we, because the war of ukraine and israel are very connected, we are fighting with by the same countries, we are at war with iran, which has been supplying drones here for a long time, we are at war with russia , which supports hamas, which has supported them even

diplomatically, that is, we are two countries that are now fighting this axis of evil, that is why these wars, they are interconnected and there is no need to divide this aid and these voting packages among themselves, that the key thing that biden wanted to convey, first of all, i still think not only to the american voters, but also to the people who will make decisions about the need to vote for one package or its division. today we started by discussing the purpose of lloyd austin's visit to ukraine, he said, after meeting with volodymyr zelskyi, so to speak again on the unwavering support of the united states to ukraine, but you know, i here, if we have already talked about hamas and israel, a parallel arises, when lloyd austin came to israel, what did he say, he said that washington does not put any conditions on the use of the aid that it provides to israel. why does ukraine not hear such similar statements from the usa? because

everyone is afraid of russia, and i want to tell you that the way the position of the united states has changed over the last year and a half is phenomenal. remember that at the beginning of the war, in the months of march and april, the provision of old migs by the poles or soviet tanks to ukraine was an escalation. and just then washington opposed. in order for the poles to hand over to us its old weapons, after that washington was against providing us with anti-aircraft defense systems such as patriot or nasamse, then for us it was considered an escalation to provide ukraine with hymars, then an escalation was considered to provide ukraine with modern tanks, then aircraft, that is , remember how we went for a year and a half, convincing them why, because putin has a red button, and everyone has already understood that, although he does not have the strongest army in the world, it is not the second. stronger army of the world, as he showed it, but he still has a red button and is

a huge amount of ah, nuclear weapons, and that's what scares the americans, and they always thought that they could somehow negotiate with him, now they realized that he was just bluffing, and every time he said, oh, if you give the ukrainians hymars, i will use nuclear weapons there, oh, if you give them tanks , i will use nuclear weapons, they understood that this will not happen, if they understood, if they understood that putin is bluffing, they must have increased the aid significantly ukraine, obviously they don't think that putin is bluffing, if they do are they afraid of russia? actually, i don't think, i think the main problem right now is that even in washington there is no understanding of what to do if ukraine wins the war and russia collapses, because guess what happened when the soviet union collapsed, our partners came to us, and it was the american president, and bush and margaret thatcher, who came here and told us that we should remain one big country, now... when they look at russia, they are even more afraid of it, because they understand , that they will have 20

tatarstans with nuclear weapons, it is better for them to leave everything as it is in the status quo than to see what will happen when russia... collapses and may have to fight with a much larger number of countries, but the issue of providing weapons is not only a political issue , in terms of new types of weapons, yes in terms of quantities now, especially what we need as a matter of priority, there are the same 155 -caliber cartridges, missiles for air defense, this is a question of the insufficient number of weapons in the world, precisely, especially what concerns artillery, well, i will tell you for example, we, for example, transferred a large number of howitzers, there3trimky, for example, yes, it is the largest now there the most used artillery installation now is 155 caliber in ukraine, except there susans, crabs and others that we use, and the problem is that, for example, the barrels, the production of barrels was shut down all over europe, that is, the british shut down, the europeans, shut down, left only a small production remained in america, because everyone thought that it was already old technology that no one would ever use, and that

there would be no more artillery wars, and now everyone starts to think that it is necessary to open these productions in a new way quickly, because the barrels wear out, and if you look at them, according to their canons of warfare, how many times a day it is necessary to shoot and how much the ukrainians actually shoot, it is heaven and earth, i will tell you , that if you look at the european manuals, they fire 120 shots a day, or 60 mortar shots, this is during the most intense warfare, we fire 120, but we ask for 240. the same goes for our howitzers, they wear out very quickly, and that’s what by which they were very surprised americans, because they're not used to shooting them like that, and there's 3,500 shots and that's it, you have to change the barrel, and there's no barrels, so it 's actually a huge problem in the world right now, if you look at how the world in one year has tripled all your spending on weapons, then you will understand that this was a real problem when people did not overestimate and at the time when russia was buying weapons, building up

weapons, as well as countries, for example, others here... then europe, on the contrary, that's all sold and cut into pieces. oleksandr, i have to see you last question recently, andrii yermak, as part of a delegation led by yulia sverdenko, it would be more correct to say, was in the united states, yes, it's just this visit and memes and jokes have already made the rounds in the ukrainian information space. so, do you know what the practical positive, possibly results of this visit are, because you know, from commentators, americanists... i must say, i had to hear such theses that the american side was not very satisfied with the fact that only representatives came the office of the president and the government, but the deputies did not come, and they said it was enough , well, not commensurate, to put it this way, people who were not elected, government officials and employees of the office of the president, met with people, with

congressmen who were elected, who were very the delegations were quite out of proportion, this is one, one such negative remark that i had, but maybe you heard more, or maybe you heard everything positive, well, i can tell you that i personally headed the delegation, and we have been for two weeks, or rather a week before this delegation left, were in washington, almost two weeks, that's why i'm surprised to hear that, for example, there were no deputies there, because we had a delegation that consisted of all factions and groups, and where everyone was represented, and we were just the opposite, that is, there were also representatives of various committees and defense, and anti-corruption, and there were no deputies in this particular delegation , well, i understand that this delegation was precisely more governmental and presidential, focused on the office of the president, but for sure the deputies of this delegation spent two weeks in the united states, just advocating more help ukraine. i'll be honest, when i said , well, i had pretty good feedback from the state department, but now i 'm looking at the photos, in fact there is

a state department there, and i see a minister. the ministry of defense, and here is antony blinken, that is, i understand that these are simply different levels and different capacities, i understand why andriy yermak went, i can tell you that, because his visa was jack saliv, and now the first thing we need and it is necessary that the nsc national security council, together with the ministry of defense made certain decisions on arms for ukraine, and why, i don't know why yuliya svorodenko, because if we talk about the budget, it is more about... serhii marchenko, this is the ministry of finance, yuliya svorodenko, now in the first queue, well, i am doing what we are asking the americans for the first time, it is demining, because yes , you will be satisfied, but we have demining under the ministry of economy, but why, yes , but why, well, now i see a photo, it is just a meeting with congressmen from the ukrainian caucus with marcy kaptor with mr. with congressman quigley