[000:00:00;00] i also see the ministry of defense, and here is antony blinken, that is, i understand that these are different , just equal and different, powers, i understand why andriy yermak went, i can tell you that, because he got his visa, and now we the first thing is that it is necessary and necessary that the nsc national security council, together with the ministry of defense, make certain decisions on weapons for ukraine, and why, i don't know why yulia. because if we talk about the budget, it is more about serhii marchenko, this is the ministry of finance, yulia sveredenko is now primarily, well, i am engaged in what we first ask the americans to do, it is demining, because yes, you will be surprised, but we have demining under the ministry of economy, but why, yes, but why, well, i see now photo, this is just a meeting with congressmen with the ukrainian caucus with marcy kaptor and mr., with congressman quigley, these are the co-chairs of our ukrainian

caucus. i understand that the first reason why irmak went there after all is the key, it was a meeting with sullivan, and i also know that there were meetings with the jewish ones, because the key thing for us now is to stay in one package, and we, as two warring countries, have to support each other in this. i thank you very much, oleksandra ostinova, people's deputy, voices faction, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on monitoring, receiving and using international aid during martial law. thank you very much. there is a serious personnel rotation in the army. the day before, volodymyr zelenskyi replaced the commander of the medical forces of the armed forces of ukraine. instead of tetyana ostashchenko, the new commander was a medical service major, chief of the kyiv military hospital, anatoly kazmirchuk. regarding his predecessor. tetyana ostashchenko was appointed commander of the medical forces of the ukrainian armed forces in the summer of 2021, she became the first female commander of a separate type of forces in the history of the ukrainian armed forces, as well as the first female

brigade commander. already during the full-scale war, there were many complaints about her work, including public ones, volunteers and military medics complained about poor-quality tourniquets, poor-quality first-aid kits, which were purchased by the state for the medical forces. ostashchenko rejected accusations the day before, defense minister rustem omerov, commenting on the reasons for the dismissal, stated that the reasons for such a step are obvious to everyone. if they are obvious to everyone and ostashchenko's job was really contested a long time ago, the question arises why she was fired only now. we will talk about this later, and also about the tasks facing the new commander of the medical forces. anatolii kazmirchuk, before that he managed a military hospital for 11 years, and already in the circles of military doctors and volunteers there are rumors, well, i wouldn't say that such criticisms are critical, but a warning, can such a person without experience in the military to make the qualitative changes required by the ministry , but to begin with, we spoke with the spokesperson of the ministry of defense about this personnel rotation,

listen to... presentation of the minister of defense, volodymyr zelenskyi replaced the commander of the medical forces of the armed forces of ukraine. tetyana ostashchenko resigned. combat medics, in particular, demanded her release. why did this change take place, was the opinion of combat medics listened to, or did the ministry have complaints? obviously, certain changes are due, and we understand that the medical system into which the soldier falls, well , as of now, it is mildly, let's say, not ideal, and we are talking about the fact that it needs significant changes and transformations. every soldier should receive the highest quality and timely assistance, the highest quality of those that are generally possible to provide him in the conditions of war, on the battlefield and beyond, and accordingly, since these , let's say, these problems, have long been known to everyone, yes, many times in society , problems that one or the other, issues

that require a solution, have been raised, then, a solution is ripe, already approach this transformation seriously and in particular reboot the system, reboot the command, this is a normal process, it is important to note that rotations in the army are an absolutely normal process, they are necessary in order to move forward, you say certain questions or problems, and can you tell me what exactly the ministry was dissatisfied with, i don't think there is any big difference between the issues that we are actively dissatisfied with. s, volunteers, who, who talk about soldiers from the battlefield, military medics, and what a huge difference between what we see and understand, we in the ministry of defense, that is why we are talking about all the same problems in general, all the same all the same need to improve, as such, the system of providing medical care to soldiers, anatoliy kazmirchuk became the new commander of the medical forces of the zsu , before that he was

the head of the main military hospital in the city of kyiv. why his candidacy? can you explain the choice of a new leader? it is correct to ask such a question to the person who made this decision, it is correct to ask mr. it's definitely a balanced decision for a long time, the candidates were considered for consultation, and accordingly, if general kazimirchuk was entrusted with this, then it means that the ministry of defense believes that he will cope with the tasks assigned to him, why i ask, because in the community of combat medics, it seems are not too satisfied with this appointment, have you consulted with them, i think it will be necessary to express my own. satisfaction or dissatisfaction based on the results of a person's work, it's another matter what tasks are being discussed now and what needs to be done first of all, that's how the ministry is

defense has a clear vision, and here are the primary tasks that are set before the new head of the command of the medical forces, and actually from how these tasks will be performed, it will be possible to form an opinion of your own. regarding this personnel decision. can you voice these key challenges facing the newly appointed leader today? i think that we can talk about the three biggest areas where changes are needed, this is, such a task as, let 's say, the automation of processes, there should be such a system as the formation of a request from the armed forces forces, property accounting, process control. supply so that what is delivered clearly meets the demand and clearly meets the quality criteria, all this must finally be in electronic form, in the form in which it is easy to manage,

here probably the most important element is the ability to have a clear, constant feedback, from soldiers, from military medics about the use of certain means, any means from turnstiles to the extent to which they meet the requirements, and so on. the second is that there should be a training system the system is built so that all servicemen receive the same quality according to the standards of training in tactical medicine, and we have to resource the military in such a way that this knowledge can be applied. a more difficult challenge is to introduce a system of transfer of experience in such a way that experience from... the front is received from the tactical level, so that this experience goes to the strategic level and there it can be systematized, so that it can also become part of the training system there, because it is necessary understand what this is

a huge challenge, such as a large-scale war, of such a scale as is going on in ukraine, in ukraine , it adjusts a lot of theoretical systems, so we have to adjust a lot, a lot , based on the realities of the war, and accordingly, this is the third such... direction to introduce this system of transfer of experience, which will certainly consist in a system of constant rotation between the tactical and strategic level, so that this experience is constantly transferred and systematized. if you watch us on the internet, like this broadcast, in this way, support ours work, and then we will discuss personnel rotations in the medical forces with people who are directly involved in medical services at the front, maria nazarova, combat medic, tactical medicine instructor, joins our broadcast, maria, good evening, good evening, you know, i i even saw that you were personally congratulated on social networks , if i understood correctly, with the release of tetyana

ostashchenko, that is, if i understood correctly, in the circle of combat medics, it is like this, well, if it is correct to say a holiday or something, well, i would not said, this is good news, because the president noted that it was thanks to... the discussion in the community of combat medics that this decision was made and in this way we showed our visibility, the problems began to be voiced finally, and accordingly, i think that the next the commander also now understands that even generals are not eternal and that discussion with the community is important. okay, maria, then please tell me for people who may not be related to this topic, and only now that this story has come out and this rotation has taken place publicly, what are the main claims in community of military medics medics to tetyana ostashchenko? first of all, this is medical provision, i.e. poor-quality tourniquets, which we saw in the photo, which were provided by servicemen from very different

brigades, from different types, branches of troops, poor-quality first-aid kits, lack of medical supplies for combat medics, i.e. backpacks of combat medics, this is 90% , probably, this is volunteer support. because the command of the medical forces did not pay attention to this and did not consider that combat medics were somehow related to them, because the command seems to deal only with hospitals, who then deals with front-line medicine? that is, there was no understanding of front-line medicine, there was no responsibility for providing front-line stations, front-line medics, evacuation teams, and so on. the second is my personal pain - it is the prohibition of combat medics to transfuse blood at the front, which, apparently, thanks to the government, thanks to moz, it is possible to overcome and the sticks in the wheels appear again, that is, we already have the opportunity to train people, provide them, deliver

blood literally to vanguard and command of the medical forces comes out and says that it is against this, that in no case should it be done, it is very demotivating for people who understand that bloodshed, what hours and days from an injury are, well, it is absolutely necessary, and the third , this is probably the main problem that has also been talked about a lot, and it already applies not only to medics, but also to all military personnel, it is absolutely. failed military medical commission of the vlk, inhumane conditions, corruption, unprofessionalism, in many respects, and as a result huge problems with military medical commission, please tell me how long ago the community of combat medics signaled about these problems, to the minister of defense, for example, or maybe someone else higher, and how long ago, perhaps, this medical volunteer community demanded the dismissal of the head of...

medical strength? well, we cannot demand dismissal, these are such loud words, there was more about paying attention to these problems, and we understand that not one person is responsible for these problems, there are people who are directly responsible for procurement, by the acceptance of a humanitarian woman into the register, and these people, they just remained to serve, in the command of the medical forces, that is, she never had such a position that it was necessary to change one person specifically there, there is a request in principle for changes in military medicine, and if it needs a change and a larger number of people, then maybe it will be right, i think that such an active discussion has been held for the last six months, and frankly i will say that it is quite difficult to take part in it, when some strange information is being pumped out there about, about what cannot be there to shake or something like that, and we fully understand that the enemy will always use against

us any internal strife there, but there are things that cannot be silenced and this is what makes us different from our enemy, so i think it is very important that we have talked openly about these problems for the past six months, and actually now it is certain that this led to this personnel decision , ihor shcherbakov, lieutenant colonel of the medical service of the armed forces of ukraine, also joins our broadcast, and we also include yours in our conversation, or you me... yes you hear and see, i hope, igor, yes, i welcome you to our broadcast, igor, how, how did you react, or more precisely, the people who in the system reacted to this personnel rotation, do you welcome it, do you understand that in the rotation, it's constant, it's fluid, it's expected, that's why we have a new commander, we thank the previous one, and we hope that the new commander will hear the voices of the people in the system,

hear the voices of the volunteers, and together we can change and reform military medicine so that to preserve the life and health of our soldiers. minister of defense, when, there, turning to the president with a request for this replacement, briefly outlined the requirements for the new commander of the medical forces, i propose now to briefly listen to the tasks before him , and we will discuss further. what is needed? the first is the maximum digitization of processes and compliance with all standards of medical care, including the supply of quality medical supplies and medical equipment. such problems as with low-quality turnstiles simply should not exist in principle. the second is the development of a training system for tactical medicine according to nato standards with appropriate resources provision, implementation of all necessary front-line medical practices that prefer to preserve as many lives as possible of our soldiers. the third is

to ensure constant rotation of personnel between the tactical and strategic levels to ensure the acquisition and transfer of experience from the entire cycle of treatment of the wounded, traumatized and sick. well, these are the tasks facing the next, more precisely the current , new commander of the medical forces, anatoly kazmarchuk. maria, how do you rate him, so to speak, his ability to perform all these... reforms and tasks set by the minister? given that the first two points, ensuring the standards of training, training and supply, they are precisely within the competence of the ministry of defense, there is a relevant department in the ministry, it has reappeared, it was not there for a while, now it has reappeared and we put hopes that this department will do it, so the commander will have to control the actual implementation of this in the troops, and here it will be important precisely

the communication of the commander with the troops, because again i would like to emphasize that if there is no connection between the command of medical forces and front-line medicine, but only with hospitals, then we simply do not see absolute responsibility for this front-line stage, so if this control and cooperation with the troops is ensured, then it will be possible to talk about something to talk about rotation and personnel, this is exactly what is within the competence of the command of the medical forces, i do not think that this is the most important thing that should be, that should be in front of the commander, but if this is the vision of the commander-in-chief and the minister, then it means yes it is necessary, i really like you thank you, maria nazarova, combat medic, instructor, medicine, and i thank you, and we continue the conversation with igor, igor, from your point of view, what are you as a person from the system, what are the main problems, what are the main problems now, what are the main problems the medical forces are facing problems, but if you can enumerate, well, the first thing about what has already been said is personnel, personnel potential,

personnel hunger, this is a big problem not only for the medical forces, but also in the armed forces in general, it is a big problem especially for specialists. here and here it is partly due to the fact that there is a constant migration, that is, specialists from military medicine go to the hospital segment, and the second question is the number of whom we are training, it is not only combat medics, it also applies to officers, doctors, medical supply specialists, there is dentistry and other military medical specialties, because in we have to say that there is not enough training. the institutions that prepare them and the insufficient number of graduates of these educational institutions, and the state in general makes a revision, and the state makes a state order, there are combat medics in general, of course, in the structure of the command of the medical forces, there is the ukrainian military medical academy, which trains officers

of the medical service, and there are training centers that train combat medics and, let's say, the sergeant corps, that is, these educational institutions exist, there is indeed a state order, but the number it is too few, you understand that in order to have the necessary number, this is also a question of military departments at universities, there are medical or pharmaceutical departments, this is a question of increasing the number of sets, expanding the departments, creating their branches, if i understood correctly, they are being prepared even under the conditions of peacetime now, the program is adapted to...' preparation, but it does not have time, because combat experience is quite difficult to describe in protocols, in programs, and also here is a very important issue, it is that people, who are in the scientific component of military medicine, they are , well, it must be said, quite detached from people

who are in the practical, front-line component, so when there is an exchange of experience, then it is beneficial. and programs and graduates, so i support the initiative, which should be an exchange of experience and academic education, military, and with front-line realities and realities of front-line medicine. i have the last question, evacuation, we know a lot of combat medics, volunteers are involved in the evacuation process, why yes, why can't the medical service of the armed forces of ukraine fully ensure evacuation? according to the governing documents that are now available, it turns out that the combat medic is essentially subordinate to the company commander, according to the statutes, evacuation is also a matter for company commanders, in fact, we see that this link, the lowest link squad commanders and rot, they are very understaffed, we have a huge shortage

of young officers, the result is that there are no people who can organize on the ground, there are no combat medics. because they are either not prepared, or they are not there at all, that is, these positions are vacant, and it turns out that volunteers who have the necessary transport, have the necessary flexibility and willingness to work, they can close exactly that piece of the evacuation chain, which due to the lack of trained personnel and recreational activities cannot be confined to a military component. thank you very much, we. only very superficially touched on the problems and challenges facing the medical service of the armed forces of ukraine, ihor shcherbakov, lieutenant colonel of the medical service of the ukrainian armed forces, was on radio liberty, thank you very much. finally, i urge you to subscribe to the radio svoboda page on the internet, like this broadcast, in this way you will support

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already this sunday, clearly, the topics will be relevant, the guests will be special, their own names with myroslava barchuk, sunday 17:10 on espresso. a terrible tragedy: an emergency helicopter crashed in breweries in the kyiv region. as a result of the plane crash. the leadership of the law enforcement agency - reported the head of the national police ihor klymenko. replenishment of the armed forces in ukraine from germany killed 18 tanks leopard-2. the russians blew up the kakhovska gesshtabs of the destruction, the speed and volume of water, the probable areas of flooding are being specified. an extraordinary event happened in district 145 supports of the kerch bridge, as the occupation authorities of crimea called the collapse of the span. we will return crimea, no one will stop me, such a promise was made by the commander-in-chief of the armed forces valery zaluzhnyi in an interview for the

washington post. he declared that the peninsula would be under the control of ukraine, even if the allies were against it. at the place of shelter, a restaurant or a shop. is it normal? it? so. in the fund of protective structures there are rooms with a dual purpose. they can be a shelter at the same time and be used for another purpose, but if this place is on the map of shelters, during an emergency you can hide there, be safe everyone's right. congratulations. we have already talked on our broadcast about the fact that now the continuation of the war is practically the thing that keeps putin and the kremlin in general close to power, that is, it is the main thing that they can give to the russian

people, and the main thing that allows them to keep power in general in the parameters that are because they cannot, in principle, fulfill any other social, monetary, or other requests of society there, and here is what is interesting, in connection with this... the fact that this is such a directly forced step and that everyone is so forced to fight, no, now the main trend is to tell how wonderful it is to fight, how wonderful russia feels when it is at war, how wonderful it is in general, that there is a war, this is what russian propagandists constantly tell how they help russia develop sanctions. that is, you can think that it is only for external consumption, to show how strong they are, but no, it is also

to convince the russian population that the war itself is the main purpose of russia? it seems to me that everything is going normally, everything is going according to plan , and this is proven by the hysterical cries that are fanned out there in our country, yes, there, now the second extreme has appeared, i don’t know, i have already noticed, he says, why don’t we have such a rapid offensive with a breakthrough, an exit to, well first of all, the policy in this war that we adopted in the svo, from soaking , from destroying everything that is in ukraine, in the bad sense of the word, the economy, crazy people who decided to go against our

you fellow citizens, and it passes, it passes wonderfully, so that every ukrainian family receives a funeral, well, yes, that is, that is the purpose of russia, you know, to destroy ukrainians, and no one hides it, and that is how they talk about it in principle, right? more, they now speak about the fact that, actually, it finally allowed all the souls of the russian people to be revealed, and this is the war - this is what shows what he is like, this is the main thing that is in him, on this i am sometimes told that, well, yes, im it's hard, but it 's hard on us. but here i categorically disagree, with those formal deprivations, yes, which are not very noticeable, we, unlike those who betrayed, because of this war, because of this special military operation, we return to our present, to those whom since the end

of the eighties, we have forgotten about real russians, so what well, everything is clear here. this is to murderers, robbers, rapists and so on and the like, this is the real thing, to which the russians have finally returned and they seem to be terribly happy about it, well, in principle, this has already been said by, let's say, the retired, tatar, when he said that everything will be as we like, we will rob it, we will kill everyone, and this is what the russian neo-nazi milchakov, who is so famous for once killing and eating a puppy, is saying. and now he is fighting, well, it turns out that the russian nazis, they are fighting against some other unknown people there, this, and this is not is nazism, so here he generally tells that, well, finally, war is what allows you to simply steal and that's all and be happy that you steal, we are in the newly liberated territories and shamelessly throws a washing machine at the position among

the local population, they themselves happily say: toilets, washing machines. pick everything up at the tachyte position, well, that is , i have a refrigerator, a washing machine, i have a toilet there, of course, i did not buy it, i imagine people who offer to rob them, you can imagine, i have great difficulties, there are probably no such people who want to rob them, so they tell themselves that literally the ukrainian population wants to give everything so that some russian freak could steal it and to put yourself somewhere...' but what is interesting is that another such thing, which is now a major trend, also of russian propaganda, is a story about how they cannot leave, literally, but they are not satisfied with any conditions that would could be nominated there, and what even they are

themselves put forward, in relation to the cessation of the war, and this is also a very interesting story, because it literally started like this very actively, well, last week, when they suddenly began to tell massively that russia is not enough and it literally needs to expand some borders, it is not known where, well, for example, this was practically said by margarita semenyan, who simply said that we must fight until we move some more borders there somewhere, and it is not known where, probably as long as they are there, not because they will come trump or vasya pupkin or roman bobayan, for example, putin will not make any concessions at all, putin will go for a ceasefire at the moment, as it seems to me, when the new borders of the russian federation will be permanently secured, and these borders will

be where we are too we will consider it necessary, based on... our security and the interests