um, we have now seen over 130 ships moving in and out of the black sea humanitarian corridor. i'm sure martin will talk about insurance which uh from the uk, which is contributed to this, the united states and i know all of our partners are committed to helping the ukrainian government and businesses, continue this corridor and keep it going. now 500 5 million metric tons of of grain and other products uh since the start of this corridor, just a couple months ago, have now gone to the world, and we are determined, we are determined not to let russia and vladimir putin stop food from going to the world, and so with your question, and after such a long speech, i want to say that it is extremely important that we recognize that we understand what is happening, and

not prevent it from happening again, so that we don't allow food to be used as a weapon again, i am very proud to be here, my secretary of defense was here yesterday, and confirmed, demonstrated that the united states stands with ukraine and will stand with ukraine, and with so that this terrible effort takes place, so that ukraine is what it has become the country that the leader and the people want it to be, i want to thank , thank ukraine, this was an outstanding gesture of support, you reminded me that applebaum recently wrote that ukraine, the united states, the european

union, have achieved something outstanding by working together , we not only preserved the ukrainian state, but also rebelled against whether nihilism threatens the whole world, and your highness, tell the ukrainian society whether you believe that we will win, in ukraine, we have a special connection between ukraine and israel, and you, as lesya said ukrainian woman, you fought in ukraine as in israel , and ukraine has unwavering solidarity and support of israel when it was barbaric, attacked by hamas, while the israelis helped.

russian aggression to ukraine, holocaust meant mass extermination of people or death by fire, holodomor means killing by starvation, your highness, what are your thoughts on the origin and consequences of the holodomor genocide, what parallels can you draw here, thank you very much, danyla, and thank you for . that recalled the terrorist attack on israel on october 7. the holocaust you mentioned happened only 10 years after the holodomor, and in the old ehr tens of thousands of jews were killed in a few days, it became a symbol of the holocaust in eastern europe.

in the case of the holodomor, as in the case of the holocaust, the soviet regime, first the nazis and then the soviet regime, did everything possible to erase the memory of this tragedy, and it was only after 1991 that ukraine became an independent state. i think that it is impossible to talk about these historical events without mentioning the tragedy, through which our two nations are passing, now, almost two years ago, russia launched an aggression against ukraine, which led to the death of thousands of people, their consequences for the human economic

and social infrastructure in the country. in october , a little more than a month and a half ago , barbaric terrorists attacked israel and killed more than 1,400 people and took more than 230 people hostage, including women, children and holocaust survivors , after the holocaust, we said, never again, never again, never, again will the jewish people suffer from such atrocities, never again will the jewish people be protected, and these words apply to what is happening now, and these words also

apply to the famine, we must do everything possible to ensure that these atrocities do not happen again, and we must again say that this is again will never happen, neither a famine nor a holocaust, and we must do everything to prevent these crimes, and we must remember all these victims, because this memory of the past gives us the strength to fight evil today, very thank you again on behalf of you kyiv security forum, i. thank you for your participation and for your efforts regarding the memory of the proladimors of the genocide and for the support of the ukrainian people. now i would like to ask the ambassador of great britain, and i congratulate

you on your appointment to this position in kyiv, for two dozen years, british historians and experts have kept the memory of the holodomorga. i remember the year 2003, when as a young ukrainian diplomat in the un security council, i shared information about the holodomors, which i took from british sources, the parliament of great britain made a great contribution, having recently recognized the holodomor as genocide, my question is almost the same, why do you think it is important to remember the holodomor, even more so, as oleksandra matvinchuk said, why is it so important to punish evil, why, if evil goes unpunished, then it is dangerous, very thank you, thank you danilov, thank you arseniy, for inviting me to this important event, our

prime minister wrote an article in ukrainian pravda this month and in the article he wrote: "why are we a memory". we remember as an impetus to action, that is why we must remember, of course we remember to pay tribute to the victims of the past, but we also remember so that it will be an impetus for action, and today, and we remember, i would like to remember a few people, the first is harith jones, a journalist who was, one of the british famine witnesses, as you said, and i think he was quite resourceful and very brave, when he was traveling by train to ukraine, he got off the train

40 miles before his destination, that is , he hid from those who followed him, and as a witness told the world about the famine, that happened in the 1930s, very few people did it, of course he was expelled from the soviet union for these actions, and a few years later he died under strange circumstances in mongolia, today he was recognized and burned with the ukrainian order. for what he did, but why i mentioned garith jones, because he told us how important it is to be a witness to crimes and to create a catalog of evidence of a crime, and that's why i'm very proud that today we support the ukrainian government, the ukrainian people , in creating a directory,

testimony about crimes committed by russia during this brutal invasion of ukraine. second. whom i am mentioning today is my personal friend, volodya, who lives in a house in lviv, i think he will not object to me telling you that he is. was born in 1932, and in 2003, i met him in lviv, we worked together, i improved my ukrainian language there with him, we walked our dogs in stryi park, and he told me about his personal history, about his early memory, early memories, how his mother used to tell how she was tried

to feed a family with dog meat in 1946, when there was another terrible holodomor in southwestern ukraine immediately after the second world war, and i must admit that today we must remember the victims of the holodomor before 32-33, but we must also remember that even after that were terrible. the bolodomore in ukraine, and for me the most terrible thing about it is that , his, his mother had to leave his sister because she couldn't feed her, and she put her in the care of the state because she couldn't feed her children, and the pain of that - this is what always stays with me and it's a memory that reminds us that this continues to happen, that food

continues to be used as a weapon, and that 's why we're here today, because some people find it hard to imagine a regime that uses food as a weapon, but it's what we see now and what we are. let's see, after the black sea grain initiative was launched , russia destroyed 280,000 grains in one month, a ton of grain, in one month, this grain would be enough to feed a million people for a year, people who are absolutely need this, this grain all over the world, i was in odesa last week with the new foreign minister , david cameron, because he wanted to see how ukraine and its partners are breaking through the russian blockade, and we saw the ships on

which grain was loaded, and which walked down the corridor, i was happy to announce that british insurers provide, insure the ships that go through this corridor and take grain for the world, so our memory is what drives us to action, and if food is used...' as a weapon, then we are not this horror must be allowed to happen, we need to disarm russia, we need to ensure and guarantee that ukrainian grain will reach those who need it, and this is why, i want to pay a huge tribute to the ukrainian armed forces, who are successfully operating in the black sea and supporting the humanitarian corridor and also urge ukraine to achieve victory and rise against russian

aggression, thank you. thank you very much, mr. ambassador, for your emotional, very important remarks, we appreciate them very much, and i think that everything you said, everything you all said, will continue what was recorded by an eminent historian. professor timothy snyder, a professor at yale university who is with us today, i want to ask that you show a video of professor snyder. your beatitudes, excellencies, friends, i am grateful that i have the honor to be invited to speak about the significance of the holodomor. it's important to me. we remembered the victims of the famine as individuals, as children, women and men, whose lives were

cut short at the beginning, or within their path, prematurely, and each of them had their own goals, their own life trajectories, which we we will never know. and of course, it is important to remember the holodomor as an act directed against ukraine, against ukrainian culture. against the traditional ukrainian way of life, largely destroyed, we must remember the ruthlessness of the steps, the ruthlessness of politics. directed against people who lived in soviet ukraine , the prohibition of peasants to beg for alms in cities , the prohibition of residents of soviet ukraine to leave for other soviet republics, seizure of livestock, grain, blacklists, measures that

deliberately led to the death of millions of people, who should not have died. question. mora is also important because he stood at the beginnings of a certain system, he stood at the beginnings of the stalinist system, the famine, murder, starvation of millions of people in soviet ukraine - this is the first and main lie of stalinism, the lie that it was supposedly necessary for some greater good, and this lie becomes the basis for lying, eh. and lying became politics as such, it becomes basic, from the point of view that the suffering of some must somehow become good for all, and therefore that any suffering can somehow be justified, that an individual does not matter , no matter how many of those people, how it relates to the events of today, how the events

of the 30s help us understand the war of the 2020s . i think in several aspects: firstly, looking back, i am impressed that the russian state spent so much energy trying to deny the historicity, the reality of the holodomor during the last 20 years, again, looking back, it shows that death from hunger or cold , hunger as a weapon was a very common phenomenon in the official consciousness of the russian federation, and in this sense it is not surprising that hunger was used as a weapon in this war. or to put it another way, the direct denial of the famine was in fact preparation for the use of food as a weapon, and of course, food was used as a weapon in ukraine, the destruction of the dam in the new kakhovka, the mining of the territory of ukraine, raids from other european countries, the deliberate destruction

of ports, ships, granaries , all this in order to put pressure on ukrainians, but since ukraine is a food exporter around the world, there is another aspect, president putin is trying to demonstrate his control over ukraine, and so he is announcing to the leaders of african and asian countries that he is now the master of food, that he now has power over hunger, that he will decide who lives and who die, which of course is very direct. an echo of the 1930s and stalin's policy. and another connection is that just as soviet policy was based on confidence in the future, putin's policy is based on confidence in the past. he i am sure that there was no ukraine, there is no, and there cannot be, therefore everything that is done against ukrainians must be justified, just like

stalin, the stalinists were sure that there is one certain future, one certain communism. union and therefore everything that was done in ukraine was somehow justified, i think that all these events are connected, but of course, memory goes beyond politics, memory occupies its special place, and i am very glad to be able to share this moment with you, thank you very much. professor snyder talks about the main ones the messages sent by putin to ukraine and the world, the main signals that there is no ukraine, no ukrainians, they do not exist, and by saying this, he continues stalin's policy, 10 years ago, ukraine proved that ukraine exists, and ukrainians exist,

that ukraine - this, the people of freedom and dignity, to invite arseniyatsenyuk , who was one of the leaders of the revolution of dignity, who will share his visions, and the 90th anniversary of the holodomor, as well as the anniversary of our fateful events in ukraine, the orange revolution and the revolution of dignity. thank you, thank you all, today we we see a clear proof that your presence here, that you share our pain, understand us, and you support ukraine in our fight against russian aggression. not with rhetoric , but with practical actions, so i am very grateful to you for your support, you mentioned putin's criminals, just now they said that putin

says that ukraine does not exist, the problem is that this is not only rhetoric, he also supports it with his actions this rhetoric, he is a follower of stalin and he implements all the policies of the stalinist empire. he wants to destroy ukraine as a state and ukrainians as a people, so that's it definitely meets the legal definition of genocide, the 1948 convention includes five types of genocide, and every act, even, every action , even the last one, no, no, but the illegal deportation of children, all these five types of actions

clearly show that russia has already committed all these types of genocide against ukraine. i want to pay tribute to the millions of ukrainians who died, who gave their lives, including those who died during the bolshevik famine. those who were killed, those who, 10 years ago, fought in mardan for our freedom and our dignity, let's look at history, the thing is, history clearly shows that the russian empire and bolshevik russia, and the soviet union, and putin's russia, all of them. have a single goal to destroy ukraine and restore something that resembles the axis of evil and they are not alone in this world, the axis of evil is growing, it includes

iran, north korea, russia, terrorist organizations like hamas, and i wonder how in general mogu could happen in the world. these uh, brutal, terrible things, various things, famines, holocausts, what russia did in mariupol, in erpen, in buch, and how, why is the international legal and political system like this, there is such a rumor that they did not warn about this? now we see. and that we must and can bring to justice those who are guilty of this, we must do it, otherwise the evil will

return again and again, as ms. matviychuk said, and will expand and strengthen, we, who need the expansion of the democracy of the free world, and not the axis of evil, and this struggle is happening right now in ukraine. the struggle for civil rights and dignity is the same time, the struggle for humanity for all humanity, the whole world is watching how this righteous war of ukrainians will end and the only end of this war must be the victory of the free world, humanity, dignity and freedom and for this we must naturally improve international law, starting from international criminal court to other institutions under the auspices of the united nations organization, which

should be effective, how could it happen that one of the members of the un security council, who should protect the basic, fundamental principles of the un charter, resorted to such aggression. and that expansion is also related to the need to expand such organizations as the european union, because this is also the way to win, talking about global things, i believe that democracy will win, you represent the free world and so do we, we have closed our ranks , and if... we did it, there is no power that can overcome us, we will win, thank you, thank you, i think you

will agree that. it is especially important for us that we gathered in this museum in the hunger of genocide, this is a special place, i want to thank the museum and its team for what they report to the world the truth about the holodomor, i want to wish them to continue this effort and get a new premises for the museum, i am sure it will happen, we will expand our opportunities, i think the ukrainian government will support this, because what we are fighting for, we are fighting for our identity, originality, for our language, for our freedom, for our memory, and here in the museum of the famine and genocide, we feel in the center of the fortress of memory. and i would like

to ask you, mr. ambassadors, underlining the first part of our discussion, to provide your signal, your message to ukraine, to the free world, regarding our unity and our future victory, since i think that ukrainians have no doubt that we will win, i am asking you. mr. ambassador, share your thoughts on what you can say to ukrainians on the day of dignity and freedom. thank you, first of all i want to congratulate the ukrainians on this very important day, two years ago, ukraine suffered a brutal attack from russia and for all. at

this time, ukrainians show their ability to defend their country and demonstrate how important democracy is for them, dignity, freedom and independence, from this point of view we are very similar, israel and ukraine, because we also paid a very high price for our continue to pay this high price, defending our country, just like ukraine today, so i wish to ukraine, to the ukrainian people, strength, endurance, stability and success in protecting their way of life, their democracy and their

freedom, mr. ambassador, i am glad that you also mentioned the orange revolution in this context, 19 years ago, i remember, i could have been a young diplomat, was a deputy the ambassador of great britain worked in kyiv, it was very impressive for me to witness the orange revolution and see how in 17 days in the terrible cold, they defended their independence and democracy, and what i understood then is that ukraine is this, the nation is this people, a proud and strong people, before that i worked, including with the countries of russia and ukraine, i gave advice to our prime minister, and i saw what putin was doing.

traffic mistake, that ukraine will win, and i also came to the same conclusion during the orange revolution, when i observed it, i what i remember from the orange revolution , this slogan is together we are many, we cannot be overcome, i think it is very important today as well, because we are together, and russia is weak, because it is alone, ukraine is strong. words to you, thank you once again, i think today we also remember this solemn day, the holodomor, but also: