[000:00:00;00] in the president's office with the division of roles, they understand, but they have already publicly bet on the victory of ukraine, and this , they understand it, they also suffer reputational losses in their countries, thanks to these things, but they cannot change zelensky's will , eh, as he said, i came with the ermak and i will leave with the ermak, well, they can’t influence it, they tell zelsky like day of souls that the applause is over, dude, look, either you do something or you don’t , what zelensky said in an interview with western journalists folks, don't worry about american money, no one steals american taxpayers' money, only ukrainian money is stolen from us , what yermak said on fox news when he appeared there, for an interview in america, what he said on the republican channel, american

no one steals money, help, that's all. under control, well, what other reforms do we lack in foreign policy , of course, lloyd osin came today, of course, that there are some possible theses related to what zaluzhny voiced for adults, so to speak with adults, well, because i don’t know, they don’t have adults in their house, in the bank , there is not a single adult there, don’t even dream of a rescue government, and don’t even dream of a political government of those technocrats, well, well, well then irmak will come out and he will be there, and the political prime minister will be given an order to deal with some situation, he will be sent, because he is nobody according to his position, well, but i emphasize once again, we have a serious problem now, we have us now, if we run out of cartridges and shells, we will go back to partisan war, and those in dovb still do not understand that it is necessary to change something in their internal policy, so as not to embarrass our western partners in front of their voters on the eve of their elections, well, that's

the story, and what should they... change, mr. igor , in your opinion, in what way? well, we have already decided with you that it is not possible to hold elections during the war, so it is necessary to completely reload the officials, those whom they appointed, and this should be done by the butycrats, and not by the quotas of the political party, which is all in the name of the greens, they have a bench the spare ran out, with those a few days ago, normal people don't even go to work anymore, and those who did, they were simply used as rubber products number two, that kaloshch. and that's it, they used it and threw it away, well, we had 17 eggs under reznikov after the scandal, young, handsome, promising volunteers came to us as deputies of the minister of defense reznikov, and what did it do, well, that's all, there's no reznikov, not those volunteers, that's all , everything is back to normal again, only in the name of yermak, in short, they use normal people as lightning rods for their wraps, but the instinct of self-preservation in them

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weapons are most needed by the armed forces, but what did the west do wrong? viktoriya ptashtashnyk, deputy of the kyiv city council, european solidarity faction, is a guest of verdict today. ms. victoria, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our air. good evening, mykhailo volynets, people's deputy of ukraine, fatherland faction, mr. mykhailo, good evening and thank you for joining our broadcast. good evening. yaroslav zheliznyak, people's deputy of ukraine, voice faction. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening, today we are conducting a survey, we we ask our tv viewers about this, whether there are reasons today. to go to the maidan, yes or no, please vote on our youtube and facebook platforms, as well as our phone lines, if you see reasons to go to the maidan, call

0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382 , all calls are free for you, it is important for us to know your opinion, and we will start with a blitz survey with our guests, ladies and gentlemen, do you think that there are reasons to go to the maidan today and whether or not it is necessary to go to the maidan during the war , that's probably there should be an additional question, let's start with ms. victoria, ms. victoria, please, i just wanted to say that i am missing a clarifying question, because it seems to me that the reasons for going to the maidan were, and were before, but the situation in the country such that it does not... endure some kind of competition among themselves there, yes, i don't know, demands on the authorities and so on, well , today, it seems to me, as a state, we should be united more than ever, despite the fact that which political forces

we represent, and whether we represent political forces, or simply citizens of ukraine, at the moment all support is aimed at the fact that all our forces, all our actions should be aimed exclusively at one thing, at victory, so for sure, and not even for sure, but definitely, i would all- she still said that although there are reasons, there are certainly no frequent maidans, i think i understand it better, thank you, ms. viktoria, mr. yaroslav, are there any reasons for going to the maidan and whether something can provoke people to go to the maidan, as far as i remember, is even legally prohibited in our country during martial law rallies and actions, the fact that we sometimes observe it. i think, including with the support of the authorities, well, they certainly opened this pandora's box, but i hope that it will also be closed, so no, first of all, i do not believe that

it is possible in our country at all, especially in this development society from the outside to organize a maidan, it is impossible, and it was not possible, especially now during the war, it is impossible, and secondly, no, i do not see such reasons, thank you, mr. yaroslav, mr....' mikhail, i was an active participant even not the two maidans of 2004-2013, but the tax one the maidan, when 60,000 representatives of medium-sized small businesses were on the maidan under the president's office, and if then during the tax maidan i made a decision to storm the president's office, people left, but now i am not a supporter of going to the maidan, because as yaroslav said that we are banned, it is very difficult to ban when a million people leave, but in the conditions of war, it is better to solve the issue in a peaceful way, at

the negotiating table, is the bank ready for this, with all those blunders that are often in ukraine today , there are, for example, people who defend our country, all of us, and relatively peaceful life in most territories of ukraine in the trenches today, these people are being stripped of their rights by changing labor legislation, ignoring social dialogue, it's just stupid. ignoring the million people who will return after the end of the war, who needs them and whether it will turn out that without us, without me, without zheleznyak, without victoria ptashnyk, completely different people will lead the movement on the maidan, and in a radical way, people will win back their rights well, i'll join this survey too with your permission, since i was part of the granite revolution in 1990, and i can.

to say that during the war, of course, no one will go to the maidan, because only collaborators or people who do not understand the consequences of their actions, i think that it is very easy to explain to such people who do not understand that they are wrong, but that such people can be, zelensky said, said that russia may be preparing some kind of protest actions or, er, disinformation actions there regarding the creation of the conditional maidan 3, and that there is such data from ukrainian intelligence that moscow may think that they can incite someone, and may create the conditions for that in ukraine , if there was, well, i wouldn't say that it is maidan-3, i would say that it is anti-maidan. three, because this maidan would be four, and this

anti-maidan is three. mrs. victoria, what could be the motives, reasons, or what forces could do this, because we know that there is a very large front within the state, collaborators, former members of opzh, who sit in both the kyiv rada and the verkhovna rada, in all local councils, there are more than four hundred people who were elected in 2020 in local elections, are a branch of the russian orthodox church. that is, there are instruments and people who can do it, can they do it, does russia believe that the maidans in ukraine will necessarily take place, with the active participation of other parties, and you are very correct, mr. serhiy, you have listed the instruments , yes, which can be today, and that is why it seems to me that we just have to fight,

to clean up these tools as much as possible and clean them up and minimize their danger, and when, well, i, in particular, recently became a deputy of the kyiv city council, but i was deeply shocked that even in the capital of ukraine, and the deputies from the now-banned opzh party, they were not just there, had deputy mandates, they absolutely took an active part in various closed meetings of the kyiv council and also headed various commissions and internal bodies that were created by the kyiv council, well, this is an unacceptable situation, thank god, we are at the initiative of european solidarity were removed and at least deprived of executive positions today, although i cannot say that it was easy , but nevertheless, and by the way, my dear colleagues, we appealed to the verkhovna rada with a request to adopt and unblock those draft laws that today there are some of these collaborations. statesmen and so on, who are still in the parliament to this day, and

to adopt the appropriate legislative framework in order to clean up all local councils and the verkhovna rada as well and to make it impossible for the future, and some of their active political activities, because they are now sitting quietly , in fact, as soon as they have such a possible opportunity and such a chance for revenge, they will definitely use it, so i call on the verkhovna rada to finally pay attention to it. because we do not have enough legislation regarding the so-called maidan, you know, well, first of all, it seems to me that it is inappropriate to use the term maidan here at all, yes, because to organize a maidan, and well, only russians can think that maidans are organized , maidans are not organized if someone there still didn't understand it, well, actually, i understood why they are so weak, ah, they are actually taking over kyiv and ukraine and so on, yes, and because not all of our maidans are, in fact,

a protest where people came out, none of them was not organized by those who were inside both the revolution of dignity and the orange revolution, this is absolutely fine. and as for the instrumentality, you know how well the rashists are able to organize it, despite the fact that there is still a moscow church in which fesbeshniks still work, there are still collaborators on the ground, and enough of them it is difficult to fight, and criminal cases, not all of them, have even been initiated, yes, i am not talking about the corruption in the verkhovna rada, but for which articles of the criminal code, separate crimes against the foundations of national security, and despite all this, and that, that russia, i am convinced, is not capable of organizing anything here, is evidenced by such facts as the capture of kyiv in three days, and the parades on the christening, victorious, yes rashisht federation, we have all seen how they

can walk here and so on, and all those other narratives they propagated actually, a ukraine has shown, well, first of all, that it is an absolutely independent sovereign state, and which has a rather beautiful people, and despite any obstacles, the people are capable of uniting, and politicians are also capable of uniting, so everything can be shaken here anything , to wage any hybrid war, whatever they are trying to do, to send messages, now in the american media there are a lot of messages that our political bamon, the so-called, is quarreling with us. i mean representatives of the authorities with our military, that will be russia to use, but that is why the ukrainian authorities must demonstrate unity more than ever, and when it appears from the president's office, i remember strange comments there, for example, regarding zaluzhny's article, and do you remember

the economy and the reaction of the president's office, but it seems to me that this is just a way to play along with the destabilization that the russian federation is trying to carry out, on the contrary , today it is very important to do the opposite and show a unified position that the government supports the armed forces, supports the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, there are no disagreements, and so zaluzhnyi's article is a request for the truth , yes, which we lack a little, to put it mildly, a little due to the existence of a single marathon and such a single, very single information policy, but there is no such thing to be, this... must be, and then there are no risks at all, on the part of the russian federation , to scatter something inside, i honestly do not see, thank you, ms. viktoria, mr. yaroslav, ms. viktoria mentioned how in the kyiv council they fought with former oppositionists, they

were deprived of management positions there, but the mechanism itself what to do with deputies of various levels, including the verkhovna rada of ukraine, from parties that are banned in ukraine and that worked for russia, so far this mechanism does not work, well, except for re-elections, that is, when re-elections take place and you can change people , there will be no re-elections during the war, and obviously these people will continue to rule the state, including because the highest legislative body creates laws and the whole country lives outside of these laws, in what way do you think it is necessary to fight against the forces that still were yesterday pro-russian, and today they pretend that they are pro-ukrainian, but continue to sit in the ukrainian parliament, continue to sit in local councils , continue to divide local budgets, continue to divide land, locally, let's

take turns then, as for your question, i am the author , if i'm not mistaken, the second, after my colleague, by the way, from the servant of the people, is surprisingly galina yanchyka, who submitted a bill on the ban on being, yes in electoral positions, people from the banning parties, and moreover, about, well, name it, the future ban on any election, their participation in the next elections, because if even there we already had a reference to the maidan, then we perfectly remember how the same people who were in the same party of regions, then repainted into different non-factional groups or blocs were in these statuses before , including, after the start of a full-scale war. shufrich is shown as a vivid example, this is number one, we passed this bill through the specialized committee with battles,

unfortunately, it is still blocked by the mono majority agenda, as you understand, i as the author and my the political force fully supports this, secondly, as for specific people in positions, well, listen, you don't need to go far, we have several offices of the president, deputies of the office of the president have a clear political interest. one of my favorite examples is mr. shurma, who was there in the first five, banned now as a pro-russian party, oplock in the 2019 elections, before that he even headed, a local cell, well, it seems to me that a person who is now sort of is responsible for economic issues, through small long enough, in my opinion until 2020 or 21 even a year, a clear political ban is prohibited by a political party now as about russian, this is point two, point three, indeed, i am sure that as soon as the war ends our victory, there will be elections immediately, this is

a demand constitution, because our convocation was supposed to be re-elected on the last sunday of october, as predicted by the law and the constitution, unfortunately, the war made its corrections, now what can be done, and it is right, at the level of all councils, thank god and in the verkhovna rada before that, it is already somehow to the tele. it deprive them of any positions of influence, and in parallel i would like to see the work of our law enforcement agencies, something tells me that it is not so, it is difficult to prove the obvious treason of most of these characters, and judging by their, well, enough synchronous voting in to the parliament from the pro-government majority for any issues , something even tells me that such preparatory actions... have already been taken, why is this not implemented further, as is the case with

the same mr. shuvrich or another unknown person, but nevertheless, opzzheshnyk from berdyansk, well, this is a question for the authorities, now returning to your topic regarding the maidan, i will surely once again refer to the quote of my respected colleague, to this colleague of yours, mr. serhiy rakhmanin, who is enough, well, a lifetime and describes political life. in ukraine, maidans outside ukraine are impossible, period, why was this said by mr. president, in what wording, as translated by bloomberg, i cannot honestly comment to you, because i am neither the president nor a journalist bloomberg, but once again it is quite obvious to me that ukrainian society, especially now, is mature enough not to fall for any, even the most audacious attempt of our enemies somehow...' chat society, we can criticize each other, and we we do this, we can quarrel, but it seems to me that everyone in society

has a clear understanding of where the enemy is now, after the victory there will be a maidan, but it will not be in the squares of kyiv or other cities, it will be at the polling stations where everyone will come and do your choice according to that list of parties, candidates, who will be at that time, well, mr. mykhay. but yaroslav and viktoriya also talk about the fact that it is impossible for someone to take over and organize, and i, i call it the anti-maidan, i will not call it a maidan, but about conducting a special operation in ukraine, at the same time we see that this front, the internal front against of the state, against the state of ukraine and about against you and against all ukrainians, it is big , that is, if in the last two months two deputies are suspected of treason,

it means that something is wrong with the deputies, something is wrong with those who came to power and with those who sit in various echelons of power, in the central echelons of power, and so far the question is quite open, what to do about it, because i believe that both corrupt and bribe-takers, and former opzh, and filier. pc, this is also antimaidan, well, that is, they exist, they can simply be activated at a certain moment, 10,000 parishes throughout the country, well, where is such a network, a huge network of agents can be, if not in a branch of the russian orthodox church, and in what way it must be overcome and in what way it must be done and stop it for so that we don't have this trojan horse inside ukrainian society, mr. serhiy, for me the maidan is almost sacred, as well as for those who were on the maidan, the president, there are more entourages, the president of ukraine, were not

participants of the maidan, that's why the president he obviously said so easily about maidan 3, but he obviously has more information under his command, not only the armed forces, but also intelligence, counter-intelligence and the entire diplomatic corps, he knows something, but if he knows, then by saying a, you have to say b , who cooks this one the maidan, on which the forces in ukraine should rely, or the president does not have enough information, or it cannot be ... today , it is a very narrow circle of people who are being monitored and controlled, but the following, i would like to draw attention to the following , that very often positive laws are passed in quotation marks in the parliament, we do not have, we have not only a monomajority , where 258 deputies from the slukh faction vote

in a consolidated manner, but there is a super super small majority, where the voice also votes in a consolidated manner and the opjj also votes for good laws and deputy groups, v as a result, for some reason, the ukrainians are not satisfied, and this worries the president's office the most , because if it is not during the war, some movements may be active, and i agree with my colleague...' now, i am just as worried about the fact that ukraine is not able to accomplish many things, and he sincerely talks about it and feels the same way as i do, as does victoria in the studio, today we are all like-minded people, since you, serhiu, being the host, you and i are in the same boat, and

we know who is rocking this boat, we know, we are taking... all measures, and where necessary, we vote, all of us, in a consolidated manner, but the question arises again, why does the parliament discredit itself, who benefits from it, who uses the parliament to adopt laws that cover up corruption schemes, endless scandals, why is it allowed in the parliament to divert the attention of the country and the entire society of the country from those urgent problems that exist today in ukraine and we need to look ahead , ahead i as a person, already the fourth convocation of the parliament, i want to say that in the office of the president they understand well that after the end of the war or martial law, people not only will they vote correctly in the elections and decide, but there may be other rather ungovernable processes, and then, again, i

will repeat myself, who will lead the radical movement. will the military want to hand over their weapons, and there are a lot of weapons in their hands, including hidden ones, and i think that our security forces know this very well, and that is why today there is a demonstration massacre, not against those who work against the country, but mostly over patriots, active patriots of our state, who were not to... tell the objective truth about certain situations, for example, about the wagnerites, who were supposed to be arrested then, on the territory of ukraine or elsewhere, and this worries many who are really interested in politics and the situation happening in the country, but one way or another, all today's guests say

that during the war there should be unity, unity and no one will argue with that, unity of power, unity of society, because we have a common enemy, this is the russian federation, well, except for internal enemies , including corruption, including bribery, which during the war are, well looting, simply and with marauders during the war are quite easy to deal with, this has not happened in our country so far, and marauders continue to exist, including when in power. today there was information that the cabinet of ministers dismissed yuriy shigol from the position of the head of the state service of special communication and information protection of ukraine, he and his deputies are accused of having seized budget funds, in a particularly large amount, in the total amount of more than 62 million hryvnias,