tv [untitled] November 21, 2023 1:30pm-2:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] all today's guests talk about the fact that during the war there should be unity, unity and no one will argue with this, unity of power, unity of society, because we have a common enemy, this is the russian federation, well, apart from internal forogs, among which corruption, including bribery, which during the war is , well , looting, is simply done with marauders during the war . there was information that the cabinet of ministers dismissed yuriy shigol from the position of the head of the state service of special communications and information protection of ukraine, he and his deputies are accused of having seized a particularly large amount of budget funds in the total amount of over uah 62 million, but this was back in the 21st year, now this
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case... er is trying to go to nabu and sap, or rather nabu and sab are investigating these cases. mr. yaroslav, here is how in this situation and what should be done with bribes and marauders, because there are many of these cases. zelenskyi once said that corruption should be equated with treason and we need to make appropriate changes to the legislation, well, doesn't ukrainian legislation allow planting, sorry for... to the bootlegs of corrupt officials and bribe-takers, and even more so during the war, and we have very good anti-corruption legislation, it doesn't stop them, they still steal , still trying to launder money, why? well, it probably means that it is profitable for someone, because i completely agree that our anti-corruption legislation is sufficiently strict. the fact that there some deputies of the president's office wanted
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to deprive us of the opportunity to investigate before this is the unreformed sbu, well, the scheme is understandable, cunning, but rather stupid, about which, as far as i understand , our international partners have explained to them quite straightforwardly, and as you can see, no one equates anyone with the state council anymore, including corruption, but in addition to investigating the judges, what is nabu really doing, and tomorrow we will vote to increase their staff by 300 people, i hope that there will be a strengthening of some areas in which, well, corruption is talked about every day and quite openly, but there is more one method very effective, it is certainly not so, let's say, bright and the one that fully meets the public demand, but it is definitely effective so that corrupt officials do not engage in corruption, well, they are needed for now, if we see
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such facts even... before they were given suspicion, just dismiss them, well, excuse me, people who are connected with corruption, it is easy enough to list them now, everyone knows about it, everyone writes about it, there are enough journalistic investigations that come out almost every week, names are called, postings , specific amounts, who got rich how, well, okay, unfortunately, or fortunately , within the framework of the rule of law, it takes... from one and a half to two years in order to raise suspicions, as you can see, just this case, which was investigated since 2021, is a fact 2021, but you will say that no one knew about it, that they were kept until the last today, until you suspected it, it is the energy atom itself, which, well, every day we, well, it’s difficult to even say more, but well there, through one
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purchase, we reveal corruption. they cancel it so they don't get jailed, but oh well, if people have already made such an attempt, well, they will certainly not do it a second time, there are specific deputies of the president's office who have already become, in one way or another, but a symbol of corruption, we will also wait until they are given another suspicion from the nabu, which maybe somehow on their own we will do it, so once again, you and colleagues talked a lot about unity, i am honest, i do not agree that this unity does not exist, well, it seems to me, not at all in the last two years, since the full-scale war, we have not discussed the issues that well, unity is being undermined, we are not we discuss the political situation, we do not discuss our foreign policy course, we really all support the military, support the armed forces, and many, many decisions are passed by a constitutional majority,
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including the ukrainian one. parliament, but there are issues, well, to which, well, i think it is criminal to turn a blind eye, well, listen, well, when they steal from the budget, they steal from the army, because all our money now goes to the army, well, it is the same as and eggs by 17, just eggs by 17 - this is an understandable story, and when you say that someone did not buy a turbine, there is no energy there, so who wanted to hold a tender even more, well, it’s the same money, the same eggs 18, just in other shells that are more difficult for the general public to understand, that ’s why we need to speak here, and for this there are political forces, they can have different opinions , but once again, it seems to me that according to the political vector, who is the enemy, or what the state should do, well , we do not have such discussions, the fact that someone does not like that they are called corruptors, well, do not engage in corruption, they will not be called corruptors , it is simple enough, and that
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i see from sociology, closed and open, which now appears a lot, including those conducted by our international colleagues, but there people see the same thing, there is no discussion of who is the enemy and who is the friend of ukraine. who is an ally, who does not support, but yes, the issue of corruption comes to the fore, even though every day we see, this large amount of air rights, yes, it is unfair that someone, like many people from mariupol, where i come from, they lost everything, and someone for some reason started building a house for himself i'm going to sleep, it's not fair that someone collects the last money to spend on drones, and someone for himself, as in the mentioned ... the deputy of president shurma's office buys new cars and receives compensation from the state for the supply of electricity in the occupied territory, well, it's true
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well, it's a bit unfair, and the fact that we talk about it openly on the air, criticize it, submit statements to law enforcement agencies, go to court so that they finally register them, this does not make us those who are trying to embroider unity, it makes us those , who also wants to win. of ukraine, just sees that some people, wearing, well, it used to be fashionable to wear embroidered clothes, now they started wearing military uniforms for some reason, when they are soldiers and, well, they are engaged in, well, excuse me, rather non-state affairs, that’s it, that’s the whole political thing discussion , which is no less the way i see it, i don't see that it somehow creates grounds for maidans, riots, even undermining the authority of the state. well, when it comes to the west, we all support it, we want it to work out, we want the congress to vote, but sorry, we can't to come and tell that we do not have corruption, we need to show how
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we will gather, we could tell in the first six months of the war, now the situation has changed, and unfortunately, people see it and talk about it quite actively , including, by all methods, which are now possible. thank you, mr. yaroslav, ladies and gentlemen, a short break for a few minutes, let's go back to the studio, viewers, don't switch, it will be interesting. do ordinary things become unreal? heavy bags are not for my sore back. for back pain, try it long-lasting cream. dolgit cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. cream dolgit, whatever you want, i will lift. dolgit is the only yellow cream for joint and back pain. laughter, physical activity, sneezing, even during such a small load, urinary incontinence can make itself felt. feminist uro helped me. thanks to its natural ingredients, feminost uro
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ephemeral over a cup of coffee espresso, a lot. this is the verdict program, we work live , my name is serhii rudenko. let me remind you that today we are conducting a survey and asking you, friends, about this, are there reasons to go to the maidan today, why are you asking about this , because zelensky announced that russia is preparing a special operation under the colloquial name, maidan 3. so, are there any reasons in your opinion to go to the maidan today to the maidan, yes, no. if you're watching us on tv you can vote by phone by calling 0800 211-381, no, 0800 211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, you can also vote on youtube, if you're watching us on youtube right now, it's all there it's quite simple, for or against, yes, no, and your option, please write in the comments under this video, today we have... guests, let me remind you viktoria ptashtashnyk, mykhailo volynets
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and yaroslav zheliznyak, we are talking about what now, what is the situation in ukraine, not only in the context of whether there are reasons for this maidan or not, what is happening with the authorities, what is happening with society, what is happening with the fifth column, which in one way or another affects what is happening in our society, ms. victoria, we talk about power, we have power. during war is the only one, it is meant, no one, no, is not such an open position towards the authorities , because we understand that the authorities must be supported, we must fight against the russian federation, but there is a mono-authority that legally has the authority to form the central authorities , to form the government , because monopolies, and it is clear that monopolies, bear full responsibility for what happens
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, in fact, in the central authorities, and with state funds, with budget funds, and we see that these abuses periodically arise, or are talked about , someone earns on eggs in the ministry of defense or there on winter, summer uniforms, someone earns special communications on soft, in your opinion, is it a monopoly. is the equal sign mono-responsible, because power presupposes, full power presupposes full responsibility, and if it is full responsibility, it should be with those who hold this monstrous power, you know, i was recently on the air with a representative of the servant of the people and he said , what are we all for a victory in ukraine, otherwise we are all in power with you now,
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each of us is power, well remember, this is in in the context of the fact that each of us is the president, this is how they live, you know, in the context of this, well , returning to the issue of unity in general, i want to give one small example, it seems to me, despite the fact that we have a monopoly , observing parliamentary activities from the outside, i would like people's deputies who have experience, communication and work in international delegations, have international contacts, due to their previous political experience, yes, are not photographers, kvnshchiks and so on, yes, nevertheless, they have a different experience, so that they actively participate in the promotion of the interests of ukraine on the international arena, because when part of the knesset of israel, the majority part, goes to the united states and speaks with senators and congressmen there, it promotes its
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interests, despite whether they are the opposition or a coalition, and it seems to me that our government should learn from this, and because all these artificial obstacles, i am not talking about the violation of the law on the status of a people's deputy, which are related to the non-admission, the impossibility of the departure of individual people's deputies, in particular, such stories happen all the time in european solidarity, yes, it is a huge shame, and in addition to the shame, it is simply something that does not exactly promote the interests of ukraine, because i remember from my parliamentary activity that when you go abroad, not yours. you support the decisions of the authorities, you don’t, but abroad you are clearly a pro-ukrainian politician , and we have always acted as one unit, i don’t know what happened, why the majority of people won’t come to this and why they don’t understand that even deputies from european solidarity, and who have diplomatic experience, who have contacts
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, who are respected in the european parliament, in the senate, and so on, that they can be used for the benefit of, well, the good of... this state, and that's why i, well, you can only destroy it contesting stepanchuk's actions by the court, but actually here the opposition is showing this unity, because they still do not file a corresponding lawsuit and do not challenge these actions, because, well, it is probably necessary to focus a little on other stories, which concern the state intelligence service, from you know, i wanted to comment on this situation, as for me very strange coincidences happened, and recently you know that the verkhovna rada voted with its monomajority together with the deputies from opzzzh for the deprivation of local councils, military traffic police, that's how we didn't shout, the kyiv council shouted, the association of cities in ukraine, various local councils said that do not disturb, you once carried out decentralization
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, by the way, yes, including financially, there is no need to take money from us, they told the servants of the people that this is giving money in the budget so that they could directly support the armed forces, there and so on, and so on, and very actively, by the way, in the kyiv rada they behaved like a deputy from a servant of the people, they pushed this topic a lot and said that it was just kapets, in the kyiv council it is not clear how the funds will be spent, instead , everything will simply go from the state budget, so i want to tell you, they voted for the military pdp and decided to distribute it. 50 for 50, 50% of the state special communications should have received, and well, the ministry of defense receives 50%, and literally a couple days, as zelsky signs this law , and what we see is that he is making public his suspicions against the leadership of the state intelligence service, which turns out to have made some strange purchases, negotiated
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with his companies, withdrew funds from the state budget for them, and now what we have, they don't have there are enough funds, as it turns out on... and they decided to take the funds from the local communities, what kind of strange coincidence is this , well, do any of us think that naboo, or investigated it in three days, well, obviously not, they were preparing, this, they were collecting the evidence base, they worked for months with the secret service, and do any of us think that the president's office did not know about this investigation , where one hundred percent they knew, i don't know if they wanted to interfere there, interfere with the activities of the nabu or not, there is separate stories of intervention, we remember how they closed the tatarov case, yes, their prosecutors , involving and taking away a specific case from the nabu in order to simply merge it all later through the general prosecutor's office, so what kind of coincidence is this, they took , deprived local communities of the military pdf in
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order to replenish the budget of those who turned out to be rascals and drained and laundered them from the state budget through their companies, a wonderful situation, thank you. ms. victoria, mr. mykhailo, how do you look at this situation, at unity and at how, who is responsible for what , and in the end, who, who is the government, who is the opposition, is there an opposition, or do we share the responsibility, and and including for what is happening in the field of communications, i want to say that we have a very good broadcast now, and at the same time i am worried, i am interested in another courageous hero. people's deputy of his colleague yaroslav zheleznyak, he calls both the president's office and things by their names, back in the 19th year i personally, like many others, spoke against the hybrid war that russia carried out in relation to
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ukraine, which is the supply of coal from russia and belarus, where electricity is not produced , shutdowns of thermal power plants, blocks of blocks of nuclear plants, non-payment of salaries, miners' one-month layoff due to the fact that mines were artificially stopped in ukraine, but at the same time, who supplied coal, this is kolomoiskyi, with certain corruption schemes, who supplied electricity - this is sasha yanukovych, under the cover of deputies, representatives of the authorities in ukraine, and this is firtash, and at the same time, i paid for what was an order from the president's office, carried out... this was venediktov's order, the newly created organs of nabu and sap carried out our instructions for half a minute, excuse me if i want to return to the cheap connection, this is 62 million stolen funds from the state budget, the money was taken
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abroad, six months ago structures carried out searches, only six months later they managed to react to this situation today, this raises the question of who benefited, maneuvering, distracting people to other things, but not specifically in this case of embezzlement of budget funds that were withdrawn for mr. mykhailo, i have to me, the budget is not a budget, but a raid, a regulation, just like you have in the verkhovna rada , i have to finish, excuse me, victoria ptashtashnyk, mykhailo volynets and yaroslav zheliznyak, were guests of our program today, thank you for participating in our program, during the program, we conducted a poll , asking you about this, friends, whether there are reasons to go to the maidan today, so what are the results of the telephone voting , 31% think. yes , 80, 69, no, we also conducted this
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survey on our youtube channel, 42%, yes, 58%, no, we put an end to that, it was the verdict program, hello serhiy rudenko, goodbye. oksana vinyuk has been in the armed forces of ukraine for only four months, but she has already become like a mother to the military, she joined the army with a call sign the hot girl is ksenia, and in the unit they started calling her valide, because she constantly pleases the soldiers with goodies, the woman works in the medical company and feeds the wounded.
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our fighters come to us wounded, tortured, so i want to help them in any way, even by cooking them home-style food, they are both young and old here, but they are already tortured, they are already tortured very much , what about me, will i help them in any way, i am already 56 years old, i have children, i have grandchildren, what am i going to do... i will sit there at home, at least do something, do something for them, the woman decided to go to army, when i saw a message about the need for cooks in the brigade, but then i didn’t think that i would have to officially join the army corps of engineers, i had to go through the army, i thought that they wouldn’t take me anymore, because i didn’t expect to be in the army, i didn’t care about anyone she said, only to her husband, he supported me. but i probably didn’t really believe that i would pass all the commissions
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, everything was great for me in the military, everything passed, the truth is that they looked at me there as an extinct dinosaur, and since i was 56 years old, i came and went east myself, well nothing, when i already received a military service, i then admitted to my children that i was going east, in civilian life oksana. was an ordinary village woman, in volyn she worked for some time as an agronomist, later as an accountant in the village council, raised four children, but throughout her life she cooked, and now this skill of a woman has come in handy in the army as well, cooking for our soldiers, that’s not for me difficult work, i want to cook something for them, almost like a holiday, so that they feel at home. what about them here
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they take care, take care that they can, well, just like at home, i don't cook by myself , we have a team, all three of us cook, and cook, we try to cook them all kinds of borscht with donuts, and olivier, and a fur coat, this is the process of starting work on lenin's varenyky, or kruchenyky from the gotsolka ksenia, but now everything is being cut, very nicely, beauty, here
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and there. dill, oven, how many minutes, 15 while the process with cheese, filling, deliciousness, we cook for 60 people, a little more, when less, and if i want to cook something tasty breakfast, get up at 4 o'clock. i mix the dough, for breakfast we can have pizzas, sausages in dough , pancakes of some kind, pancakes, pancakes, what else do we cook, various casseroles, we have breakfast, our breakfast smoothly turns into lunch,
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well, we already try to eat lunch, first of all , the second, and dinner. most of the potatoes are mashed potatoes, we bake them, in uniforms, with a sturgeon, we can come up with something like that , well, in a homely way, on the day of defenders and defenders, ms. oksana and her team arranged a culinary feast for soldiers every warrior has one a combat task, gunners are good to shoot at, but cooks also have tasks, and for our holiday on october 1, our team prepared such small combat tasks for the soldiers, so that they would know that the cooks are also on a combat task at such a time, so that they do not say that
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we bought a blood cake, and also a cheesecake, and finally we have a saltine with potatoes, homemade sausage with crackers , and the boys are probably satisfied, i don’t know, but they thank me when they leave, hug, kiss, when they arrive, also come in, do not pass by, it is probably the best that can be done to be, what do you see in their eyes, some kind of gratitude, you have to cook in different conditions, sometimes it is calm, but often the process takes place under a barrage of enemy fire. sami, a delicious little hill will be under the cannonade, we are 150 meters away, we have survived in the warehouse, and it has been like this for half an hour, well, it does not affect lunch in any way, however, everything will be
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ready, i... because of the shelling near us, i have to hide in the shelter , but we already know, the boys have taught us when to leave, when to arrive, if there is an exit, then we are not running away, we continue to cook in the kitchen, there is no needs, the most terrible thing seems to me to be in war, as for me, it is aviation, because you don't know when it... flies and where it will fly, and there is no time to hide from it somewhere. however, oksana vinnyak does not regret her decisions. at least, i don't know, a tiny tiny contribution, i contribute to that victory, so that it would be easier for our guys here on the front line, it is very, very difficult for them. but we
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try our best to help them. at least with something, so i will help as much as i can, as long as i have enough health, and i hope that to victory, and we will soon we will win, since people like me have come to fight, then the victory is only ours, and there will be victory, everything will be, then i will be with my grandchildren and children. khrystyna porubiy, espresso tv channel. greetings to all viewers of the tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval, a news release is for your attention,
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