[000:00:00;00] well, i also can’t help but mention the fact that one of the speakers of the security forces of viktor yanukovych’s government at the time, oleg tatarov, during the maidan, he held a senior position in the ministry of internal affairs, he even received the title of honored lawyer of ukraine during the maidan from the hands of viktor yanukovych, now he is the head, deputy, excuse me, head of the office of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi. and this is such a very irritating, i would say, moment for the current ukrainian government, which is constantly in fact are mentioned to the current ukrainian authorities, but i think that on this day it is important to remember it again, oleg tatarov said, he called the protesters persons, radical persons who are capable of anything, that was his communication at that time, although he said,

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can hide there during an alarm. to be in... everyone's right. congratulations, today is the tenth anniversary of the revolution of dignity, and you know, every year is a date that russian propagandists cannot miss, every year they tell how terrible the maidan is, this year it is a particularly active story, and every year it is clear that for them it is indeed , some direct tragedy and something, you know, that they are terribly afraid of, and it is clear why they are afraid of this, because, you know, the kremlin's fear, putin's fear, that he might be overthrown , the way other dictators were overthrown in other countries, they remember the fate of those

who, well, abandoned wars, killed their people, and not only their own, someone else's as well, and obviously, they are afraid of it, but another reason why russians are so, for them, it is such that they concentrate on it, this is that myth. which they create and the fictions they create around the revolution of dignity, and the first is an attempt to replace the very consequences of the revolution dignity for the ukrainian people and tell that this is literally an attack on ukraine, the only reason is the revolution of dignity , although, to tell the truth, then if you go and look for some roots, then probably the roots are that at one time in 2000, the russians chose hibist putin as their president with an absolutely insane desire to restore the soviet union, and this was not only his personal desire, it was the desire of the entire

russian population, and this is precisely the reason why they attacked ukraine after the revolution of dignity, but here they are they are talking about it, and look at how they are trying to, you know, shift the blame from themselves to the ukrainians themselves. today is exactly 10 years since the events took place in ukraine, which essentially became the point of no return for what is happening in the country now. november 13, kyiv euromaidan began with protests, the participants of which demanded association with the eu, and then radicals joined, riots, clashes, more than 100 people died. 10 years since the events that led to numerous victims and the coup d'état. it all started with street people. where they chanted anti-russian slogans and demanded association with the european union. 10 years since the beginning of the terrible events that destroyed our brotherly country turned into a nightmare for all ukrainians. during the reign of the criminal kiev regime, ukraine has already lost 53%

of its population and a fifth of its territory. the beautiful slogans of the maidan and the cookies of the state department turned into a war. here are the cute furry messages that came. then good, yes, nothing like that, take a cup of tea, a cup of coffee, we will eat a bun there, stand, dance, play music послушаем, and now ukraine is in our nostrils, well, you see, the attempt to tell, although it is clear, no, the revolution of dignity, led to such victims, led to this attack by russia. there would not have been an attack on russia, there would have been no victims, after all, there are a lot of countries, the internal affairs of which russia did not interfere, even when russian citizens were killed there simply directly, and here suddenly,

here they are, they began to interfere, because they did not could tolerate beating the unfortunate berkut, and this intervention, it was already during the revolution of dignity itself, is one of the dense propagandists, who were even given a place in the state duma, he was a member of the papuv state duma, he was in kyiv during the revolution of dignity and actually worked, well, you know, as a person who highlighted the activities of berkut and whitewashed berkut, and told how the unfortunate berkut is suffering, look, i have a militia shield in my hands, i took it from one of the soldiers of the berkut special forces on the front line, such shields as... there are thousands of them here now, i hope you will see four field holes, they even

gave me a ruler, to measure, look exactly 9 mm, this is a makarov pistol, there are also holes from other types of weapons, here they are through, the owner of this shield, thank god he was alive, what else is written here, this cartridge is a hunting cartridge, this is a cartridge case from a kalashnikov assault rifle, this is a round, the sixteenth , there will be a whole lot of trouble, because they are already being captured... but it is not clear why, if they were captured like that and killed like that, why in fact so few berkut citizens were killed and in general, these people who tried to suppress the revolution of dignity, i.e. for all time, that is all the time of the euromaidan, the security forces were killed, there were something like 16 deaths, 13 of them on the days

of february 18-21, actually, when they tried to clean up the euromaidan and when they killed all the security forces together with aunties, almost a hundred people, that is, the ratio, i.e. where were all these killed, wounded, there again , the ministry of internal affairs itself, well then the ministry of internal affairs, kovicha admitted that there were 80, it seems, seven wounded, 83 wounded law enforcement officers with gunshot wounds, again with 18 until february 21, just then when they shot the maidan, not before, but where are all the terrible wounds , it is unknown, they simply dissolved into the air, nothing, nothing, it was all a lie, one big lie, and again... as

russian propagandists told and tell now in general, about what and how all the battles on the maidan took place. the first rallies on the maidan were quite small and peaceful, until the west saw the potential for a color revolution here and began pumping money into it. a broken helmet, really? yes, as possible pierce such a helmet, it is in general, well , you see, a scarf, wrapped, a stone, and here? what's going on, here every day they beat the police to death, and they don't give up on the cameras. at the same time, with the broad support of the european and american mass media, fighters of the berkut detachment began to be accused of the murders committed on the maidan, but who actually did it has not been officially established, the investigation ultimately ended in nothing. well, in fact, this is also a lie, because all the legends of the russians about georgian snipers

completely crumbled, the investigation continued, it ended, literally on october 18, 2023, the court in kyiv handed down a sentence specifically to the soldiers of the berkut police unit, determining that the majority of those who were shot were precisely them, and they killed them, others were killed by uncles, or again by the same policemen, but a little earlier, during the skirmishes there, which were still in january, in the end, you know, when now the details are starting to come out, and some stories are appearing, for example, the former head of the sbu, ukraine under yanukovych, yakymenko, is already telling russian television , that he always wanted to kill euromaidans in general. oleksandr yakimenko, ex-head of the security service of ukraine. when this revolution began, we understood that

but it will not end so peacefully, it will be impossible to come to an agreement with them, it is simply impossible, i initially told the president that it should not end with some kind of negotiations, we had to use force , disperse, force people to leave the square and then it is already necessary to introduce some negotiations, and actually, they tried to do this several times, the propagandists did not they talk about it for some reason, but the clashes and serious such actions began there after they first tried to disperse the students, beat them very badly, and then tried to disperse them more than once, not to mention the fact that the fsb officers came to the police training ground russians, including this same yakymenko , who is not even known at all, whether he was once a ukrainian citizen, there is simply no information about it, although it seems that his citizenship was taken away from him and everything, but this

person was, in fact, until 1998 military of the armed forces of the russian federation, after that she worked somewhere in donetsk for donetsk people, again, there were various businessmen and politicians there, in security structures, in their companies, that is, no relationship, in general, this person never had any connection to the civil service in ukraine, just after that... rather after all, she put him in charge of the security service of ukraine as, again, a russian protege, now he fled to russia, after that, for the last year , he tried to be... he was put there as the head, actually, of such a security service in the kherson region, and he kherson escaped with the russian army. such is his inglorious career of this, in fact, absolutely not ukrainian figure, such people managed the security service during euromaymay.

no wonder there were murders of people on the maidan, no wonder they constantly tried to kill the people of the maidan, and now all the fables are being told to one eye and another. history is also important, which they constantly talk about, it is actually about the fact that the civil war began, very much so, i think it is an incriminating story about how they tried to talk about this civil war to disperse from tsarev, let's see, there were a lot of serbs, georgians, in the country they are preparing for a revolution and a civil war, that is, we have a classic yugoslav scenario, i read it, i went on the air, i... go on the air and we we argue, including with deputies from svoboda, then they come out and say, oleg, well, of course we understand, you say all this in a cool way, you play it cool, well, you understand, well, what kind of civil war can there be in ukraine, he says, we are ukrainians , such a people who are not inclined to this, and i am

i myself spoke about it, i read it, i saw the documents, i understood that the country was preparing for it, but i did not believe it to the end. well, i think it’s wonderful, that is, where he read, who gave him these documents, it’s a big mystery, but clearly these were not ukrainian documents, and they were not given to him by ukrainian people, since the person then fled to russia and now walks the airwaves there, well let's talk about this in general, about the general narrative of russian propaganda regarding the maidan and how it all continues now, let's talk with oleksiy holobutsky, political technologist, deputy director of the situation modeling agency, i congratulate oleksia. greetings, well, look, and what do you think, they were already preparing some kind of invasion during the maidan, the russians, they were preparing that it would continue to rock, even, considering what is being said now, that’s how they are now suddenly all the stories came out, no

, what they are telling now is such a thing, it is clear that all these former officials, they have lost their power, it is unpleasant for them. now they are in russia, even if something is occupied by some there, they were thrown some kind of bone, still not in comparison with what they had in ukraine , where they were the masters of life, let's say this, i am here, this is a very difficult issue, so difficult, it is, so to speak, a worldview issue, because very many people in ukraine still believe that, after all, well, let's put it this way, a journalist called me today and asked: if there was no maidan, then perhaps there would be no crimea, and donbas, and so on, well, that is such a natural question that there was the first reason, i

think that after all i, it is a little easier for me in in terms of the fact that i was still involved in the european integration processes that the authorities were engaged in in the 13th year, ah, i think that after all, russia was not, that is, the plan was like that, they believed that everything you can buy, in principle, they were 90% right, putin was right about the ukrainian elite, and in principle, why conquer something that already fell into your hands one way or another, that is, it was such a naturally longer process, but we we understand, if there was no maidan, then ukraine would not only be crimea and donbas , that is, they would be captured by russia, but it's just that all of ukraine would be completely taken under the control of russia in one way or another, it was already under control, that is, roughly speaking, ukraine

was under a certain control since 1991, and this end the more money russia had, the more the more she got back on her feet, and especially after putin came to power, even more so. and there was more control in russia, this control was not the same as literally, yes, there are military bases there, although military bases on the territory of ukraine, and it was cultural, primarily informational, and we are now watching, here you are i showed these frames calmly, like with zolovik with kabeeva, it looks like this now, well, like this, you think, well, some kind of horror, like a man with kabeeva, this was a normal phenomenon, 90% of your colleagues and mine, probably for... would would have given him an interview then and would have kissed him in one place, so to speak, as i remember perfectly, when i refused to broadcast in russia, just before the war, before everything, i just imagined how to go there like a huge number of people, i don't even say no, then

a huge number of people after 14 went to moscow and gave interviews and so on, that is, we were completely soaked in russia , television, i always say this, imagine the situation with putin, yes, who comes to kyiv in the 13th year, he seems to have been 13 yes for the baptism there, well, he is coming. to kyiv, and lives somewhere in some residence, turns on ukrainian tv, see what’s there , he likes, he only watches tv, he turns on ukrainian tv , there is inter, there are other channels, there are films about there, a series about mints , there is a series about fsb officers, the film is russian there, they sing in russian there, some of our figures are running around in a piloch, he thought that it was absolutely normal, that this country is practically, well, it is russia, but there is a little bit of confusion there. certain figures regarding ukrainianism and so on, that is, they wanted , i think, they had a plan, he had a plan, slowly over

several years there, to bring ukraine completely under russian influence, the customs union and so on, and so on, and at this, not having any sanctions from the west, not being the aggressor, in any way, i don't think he i really liked the situation he got in the 14th year with the crimea and with the western ones, even then... not very big, but still, with restrictions, and everything would be clear, normal and correct, and the defense would say, well, this is a historical process, you can’t do anything about it, ukraine was under the influence of russia for 300 years, well, so to speak, it ended logically, that’s why, that’s why the propaganda is russian, it, well, look at it now, i'm reading the copy that i read now, well , it's already gone. there

there is no point in even looking, as they say, the pot of carriers, something they call that, yes, that's all, that is, there is no evaluation, the fear of then, 10 years ago, it was like that, and in 2004, it was the fear of by its own population, especially in 2004, when putin had not yet seized all the levers of power in russia, yes, it was such a fear of an example. that the government can be changed not in elections, or shall we say, you can disagree with falsifications, and in general that, in principle, people can go against the government, that is the most important thing, the problem is not who is there right, wrong, and by the way, it is putin who very often takes this position, shows that it is important for him that there is power from god, so to speak, yes, but there is a people who must obey, and not in in any case, no maidans, these circulars. revolution or whatever they call it there, yes, so i think that the maidan

was before certain, well, that is, i have certain data, from a conversation with some russian agents at that time, yes, who tried, well, to communicate with me, yes under the guise of cultural attachés of the russian embassy, ​​this is the end of the 13th year, i had an idea that they were still absolutely calm. with regard to the evolutionary process, so that the maidan, the revolution and everything else, it was not part of their plans, and yet it destroyed to a certain extent, a calm process, simply digesting ukraine by russia, and transforming russia into, well, not belarus , maybe, maybe something, something, something, something else, but completely in the orbit, in the orbit of russia, the more so, again , culturally and informationally, by the 13th year, they practically already owned ukraine, practically

already owned it, just me with i agree with you because they did not perceive the beginning of the maidan dramatically, they rather began to perceive it dramatically, when they realized sometime after january that it was not very possible to do something about it, and somehow, well no, it is clear that when there was a change in the process, but how an interesting nuance, i will tell you that i noticed that in this lesson they generally have, you know, a statement about the maidan, as about some such event that turned everything around, and they repeat it by different speakers in different places, and news anchors , that's all, let's see a small piece, we actually have one, where it is clearly visible that he is talking about this as some world -wide hyperpode, what happened 10 years ago, it started, it is a colossal catastrophe in general, it is of such a planetary scale, it is a colossal blow,

well, it is a colossal blow to the slavic world, yes, to the russian-speaking population, which was deceived, drugged, and now abandoned to fight with its brothers, no matter how it is interpreted, we often convince and prove even some of our european leftists that in ukraine there is a fascist regime, there is a fascist regime, what is a fascist regime, a fascist regime - this is a terrorist regime, this is the classic definition, a terrorist regime, extremely reactionary forces of monopoly capital, well, the last piece, it is more likely now of modern russia, but the very fact that they evaluate it as something so direct, that turned the whole world upside down, yes, i agree, it confirms your theses, but i still have, you know, a little bit, let 's talk about another topic, well, despite the fact that, for example, today's address, president zelenskyi, it's done you know

in such a style, when he combines the war that ukraine is currently waging. everything that happened immediately after the 14th year and the maidan as such, you know, as if a series of events, which is very important , which is united by one meaning, the actual struggle for one's own independence, but no , no, it's no secret that zelensky himself had a very long attitude towards revolution of dignity, as something foreign to him, and i would say that the statement in the interview that the maidan is being prepared... three, this is an echo of his same attitude as something that, as if how someone brought from somewhere and this is something terrible and impossible, and from this point of view, well, his statements about what is being prepared there, developed by the russians and all that, well, firstly, how do you feel about these statements, and secondly secondly, to what extent are the russians able to organize something like this in ukraine, how much

ground do these statements have. and as for zelsky's performance, you have to understand, let's say it's a professional act, and well, let 's put it this way, he, he's a very good actor in this regard, and he doesn't write the lyrics, so to speak, yes, there is, that's why to evaluate, you understand, he is still the president, the president of ukraine, yes, he is one. to the maidan, it, it was not the reason for his election as president, if he supported the maidan slogans and became the president of ukraine, it could be evaluated, right? he spoke absolutely positively about the maidan in the 19th year, in such a mainstream, absolutely way.

therefore, for the population of any country, which does not possess critical thinking, it is submitted to such slogans, this is an absolutely normal phenomenon, that again must be understood, distinguished, i always say about it, well, the maidan is not, it is not an institutional phenomenon, absolutely, yes, it is not what is given to us by the constitution, or is this action in general not connected with it is, well, to put it so primitively, the passionarians who do not like it, who believe that they cannot live in such conditions, have gathered, and there are always fewer of them. always in any society, the minority imposed their will on the state and the majority of society, they imposed it, we must also understand that, and of course zelensky did not passionate and sure that zelenskyy was not in the minority , he was a commoner, and he actually, well, the president of the commoners

, let's be normal, it's not bad and not, well, not good, it's just the way it is, that's what i'm talking about. i am talking about this, he was just like an observer, so in principle, he has a different vision and the maidan, and it is possible that even it is not mistaken in some way, because when i read now many of these stories on facebook from, well, let's say, from the active activists of the maidan and the receiving power after the maidan, yes, which maidan gave power, which in what way, to put it mildly, not coped with the mandate that he gave maidan, to be honest , i don't care what zelenskyi says there, because i see hypocrisy , so to speak, that from one side, that from the other side, and the reluctance to even try to figure it out , we literally have two, two