[000:00:00;00] i worked in the police, i was an investigator, and one day we were shown to the courtyard of mda, from time to time guys in balaclavas came out and threw stones or bottles in our direction, i don't remember exactly, but they didn't throw them there, well, it was like that, it was not an incomprehensible situation, but it was very tense. there were no such serious experiences there at first, well, until the moment when we somehow came to work the very next day from service and were told that the guys with whom we worked there had crossed paths at work,

and had received injuries, and some serious, that is, i remember a guy who has been with me since one year, he seems to be a year older than me, but he stopped serving in the organs because of an injury, the head injury was quite serious, you are not a sniffer, ugh, i know such people, which is absolutely no one. they beat me, no special means were used, but it occurred to them that if there was an order to use some of the measures of physical influence or special means regarding a peaceful demonstration, well, i would not carry out this order. i generally considered the option that you can always quit if you don't like something, and we were told so, if you don't like something,

please write a report and resign. of course, the maidan influenced my position, my general views on human rights, well, it turned me around 180°, well , probably yes, now i work as a regional representative of the commissioner, verkhovna rada of ukraine on human rights in the rivne region. this is the house on the right, we have come to help. father vitaly told me, asked me, well , if you could react to the conditions in which you live and help with something, let him help me house, please, there are two people here, they are just a good day, in such conditions,

they have been living for the fourth month. the woman needs immediate help, i don't know, any kind of help, probably food and warm things, and warm housing. i have bottles, it is already frozen, the water in the bucket is frozen, they live on cold rations. look, for now, you need to unequivocally, or yourself, first of all, go to the city council and ask for help, in any way, son, maybe they will help me, i will help you, i will give you the contacts of the body that works there and heating and well in general, the provision of social services, low-income, because you are essentially now considered homeless, this is not your house, that's right,

it's not mine. hold on, i'll call you from my number, because i called from yours to have a number, this is a sign, simply, asking to provide housing. damn, well, this is a little bit out of our competence, not a little bit, not at all in our competence, well, we have to say , i don’t know how realistic it is, well, housing is now being built for these people, but at least, well, help with firewood, with some heaters, whether to connect to electricity or something, well somehow

something needs to be decided. good, let's go? the maidan taught me to be more sensitive to other people's problems, the opportunity to help other people is not protected. i mean, i started doing this, the maidan was a duel with myself for me, i think that the light part of me won in me, don't think that, this whole town can be called the most large-scale total installation of an artistic action, whatever you like , but this thing has no authorship, it is created situationally, like an anthill, yes, an anthill

is beautiful, but the sculptor who created it, no, you were surprised every day how powerful this artistic phenomenon is, how diverse it is, how plastic it is, the little trees with the names of cities, the barricades themselves, relationships, everything was art? our pictures were not connected with art, with anything, with any form , there was cultural enlightenment, self-impression , we solved, it seems to me, practical tasks,

there is a picture that will be spread around and used by everyone, in any way, by crowds of people, completely, occupied the streets of the city, it became perfectly clear that this was not going anywhere it will come and it will not go away, well, such a number of people did not go out for a walk once, and we realized that in the morning there will be even more people on the streets, revolution, revolution, revolution, revolution, revolution, revolution, revolution, the screaming crowd can be turned into anything television, even then we understood that russian television would be... depicted one by one, our television by another, we saw only one small poster in the hands of a girl, put her christmas tree on it, we understood that this is the most important thing, it is not enough to simply invent

a poster or to invent a slogan or some word, people will invent it themselves, but it is necessary to make sure that these pictures, texts , and messages are in people's possession, by tomorrow morning, and we are practical people, we know how to be on time with propaganda tasks , so we divided who is doing what, at night we drew posters with a light, a light wife, guys from the gang drew posters, and we started making such frames on sticks to wear, and we quickly started this facebook platform strike poster, only people started coming along shevchenko boulevard, andryusha fyodorov runs here, and we immediately give him a pack, he was, he went out and distributed to people and reported to us that yanukovych with a clown nose is doing well, but the text slogans are not very good, well, there were not many of them or not much, but they were big and they were high above the people, we made them on long sticks, and then at night we used to break into them, put

these messages in there, egor petrov, pasha and i drew this drop in the ocean, that's all has become a popular poster the most important thing is everyone standing here, our slogan, we stand, to victory, we stand, to victory, what is it, what is it, we launched it, then for a couple of months we tried to draw something new every day if possible, and then it lost its relevance , quite quickly all this became overgrown with images and became visually saturated, meaningful, and no one had any doubts about what it was we... sometimes they added something, but they were already engaged in something else, medicines, various things, no, not only

aesthetic, highly artistic, but also unpleasant, well, i felt a lot of unpleasant things, well, yes, these grenades, yes, how it rattles under my feet, i make smoke, i can’t stop, it’s smoke right like from a light noise grenade, somehow it went straight ahead very unexpectedly, i saw , like her, i saw the moment, how she breaks up, this is a very... expressive sight, i immediately became deaf, everything rang in my ears as if in a rapid, everything slowed down, and there were such holes, smoke was coming out of them, when in the beginning it was like that spirals, i managed to notice it, don't

take it, but take it, let's watch it. as in any such significant and impressive events , of course, everything is burning, everything is burning and beautiful, well, you understand that it is beautiful , you understand that they are shooting , you understand that it is a very complex feeling, there was no need to participate in historical ones. i had to participate in the cleaning, roughly speaking, yes, it is not very romantic , in general, i am not a romantic, i did not feel that my world had turned upside down, this was just an event over which i had no control, yes, then есть оно воззикло помимо моей віл, но хорошо, что arose, they did not arise. it would be worse if

it didn't exist, and we would now be in some russian space , i don't care about the birth of a nation, i don't care much about it, i care about the opportunity to choose my own destiny, i was worried about the fact that we are not considered people, they put a kizyak, and that he turned out to be just a cossack alive. the best monument to the people who died on the maidan would be the creation of a ukraine where the euromaidan sos and other such initiatives that protect people from the repressions

of the authorities simply will not be needed. when the maidan ended, after some time they asked how we saw the victory on the maidan, and i thought about it, trying to remember myself in those months, and i very honestly said that i would like to answer you somehow, somehow beautifully, that we were convinced that we were on our way to this victory and we saw it that way, but i realized that no, we did not have the time and opportunity to think about how it would be and what our demand would be, i later found it in the memoirs of soviet dissidents, they said that they forbade themselves to hope, because if you hope for something, it will happen sooner or later you will be disappointed, they just did what they did because they couldn't do otherwise, well, i don't know how to say that there should be hope, or it's because i don't believe in it, you have to act, you have to...

set yourself a goal and act , but before that it is necessary to agree that it is necessary for other people, it is necessary to be confident in it, i hoped on the maidan for what probably the majority also hoped, i expected that after these events respect for human rights would reach a different level of understanding in general from the side of the authorities, well , there are state bodies, local bodies self-government, will it become in did my hopes come true? of course not at the moment, but i believe, definitely, i believe and i will believe that, well, it's, it's not things that change in 7 years, i think the generation that's grown up, it's ready for change, take the award, it was a ubi video, the best internet video

of the european union in 2013, this is a christmas tree video, i was allowed there to go to london, take this iron, let's say so, well, it's nice that, let it lie, about hopes, well i still hope that the people who did a lot for changes, who have sacrifice there, who have a big heart, they will still find themselves in power. and they will change the country from top to bottom, these are two processes, that is , there must be a change from the bottom up, and from the top down too, the oaths are signed in blood. and the maidan and the events of the subsequent russian-ukrainian war, that's all you can't get away from here, yes,

this is my opinion, this is my opinion, this order, in short. even after the funeral, this order was brought to me from kyiv, oh, here he is with green hair, it looks just so normal here, we were just there by his portrait and a man came up and said, does anyone know, well, does anyone know his parents or relatives, well, they are ours from frankivsk, they say we are from frankivsk, and he kind of lost his temper. says: hand him over to his parents. i very much hope that our people will stop thinking with the measure of the refrigerator, that our people

will understand the meaning of the word freedom, because freedom brings responsibility. and i really hope that our people will understand the meaning of the word dignity, these are the words for which my son gave his life, and a lot of people say them and do not even understand that they mean and it's not true. and when we understand the clear meaning of these words, everything, everything will fall into place. i already drove a little like that,

it's true, but, but, but this, but this is true. zelensky said that russia wants to remove him from power by the end of the year, a general mobilization in the verkhovna rada announced changes to the rules. what to do if the aid from the usa and the eu is reduced. in an interview

with the british newspaper zesan, volodymyr zelenskyi said that they are planning to remove him from power. who exactly, let's hear the president. latest information, they are very want, there is a maidan 3 plan to change the president, maybe not through assassination but through change, they will use whatever tools they have. the idea is to have a new operation that even has a name by the end of this year. you know, we can live with that. ihor reiterovych, candidate of political sciences and head of the political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social sciences. development joins us, mr. igor, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, congratulations, let's talk with you about the so-called possible maidan 3, but look, a short background, today we remember how the maidan began 10 years ago, and i was on the maidan around the 18th, there from 6 to 5 p.m.,

and people, frankly, who came to remember these events, but there were almost none, were one military man who came and was surprised says... why is there no one. the question arises: will there be a driving force that can organize the change of the president, or will it be maidan 3? well, of course, it will not be found, because let's start with the fact that the protest mood in ukrainian society, which is directed against the ukrainian authorities to date, they are minimal, if they exist at all. yes, there are certain questions, citizens ask them, including through journalists, or are ready to ask them later. but only after the end of the war and our victory, this is a very important moment that must be taken into account, which, apparently, russia does not take into account, this is the first moment, the second moment, well, when they do such things and something like that, they turn it around and throw it into the way huge money, at least for information promotion, they are not

understand one, well, you know, the essence of what happened in ukraine 10 years ago, because for us the maidan was a revolution, to a certain extent, a speech of the people against the government, which took a diametrically opposite position, which ignored public opinion, which was on that moment, well, can we say, for example, that this is against, well, regarding the current government , of course not, we look at sociological polls, everything is obvious there, in the key issues of the country's development, first of all, our victory, the opinion of the citizens, the opinion president and the opinion of everyone else who is in power today is absolutely the same, but the russians don't understand this, they don't want to accept it, and they want to find some, you know, clues that will allow them to at least shake up the information situation , and that's why they do it, that's why they throw in this thesis. that's why they are spreading this campaign, which is directed against the current head of state, because in their understanding, if , for example, there is a president to be removed or overthrown,

as they want, they think that the war it will end immediately, they will win it and ukraine will fall apart, well, that is, again , they do not understand our mentality and do not understand how we treat the authorities and , in general, how we communicate with the authorities, so there are no chances for such actions, as of today in ukraine from the word at all, even more so if they are inspired or supported by russian fe but this does not mean, and here one must actually take very seriously the attempts of russia, nevertheless, to sway this situation through some agents of influence, of which, unfortunately, they have a small number, but remain in in ukraine, despite the very effective work of, for example, our security service, well, it should be noted , there are still some agents of influence there, because of, excuse me, useful idiots who do some things, make some statements that they think, well, they don’t seem to have any . to russia, but in fact they shake up the situation to a certain extent, create problems on an equal footing, and russia is ready

to invest not millions, here we are actually talking about billions, because you know this, fsb logic, which is very characteristic of putin and understandable for putin, so they will continue to do it, but here a good rule applies, when you are warned, then you are armed, if we know about it, then we can counteract it, and mr. igor, here we have another topic , in my opinion, it may have a certain connection with the influence that russia can use to sway the situation, look, people's deputies are preparing a draft law that can change the rules of mobilization, what to expect from the document, we exclusively told on our air members of the national committee of security, fedir venislavskyi, iryna fries, let's listen, if you are talking about what the draft law can provide, then changes are also proposed to the law on social legal protection of military personnel and their family members and pension provision for those who are released from military service, well, in particular, the participation in, or rather, passing military service during the legal actions of the legal regime

of martial law, a month is counted for two, participation in hostilities is counted for a month for three, or a month for four, if a person was in captivity for a month in five and so on, in order to achieve systematic and high-quality mobilization, we have to think about three components of successful mobilization, this is professional training, this is quality support and the third important component is information policy, which today is not proactive, and that is why the motivation of most citizens to go and defend, as our heroes do today, it is lost, mr. igor, well , we all understand perfectly well that russia is on this topic, it is trying to manipulate public opinion, in your opinion, what does it have to be such in the bill, i will remind you that we do not yet know the details of the bill to motivate... people to join the armed forces.

well, first of all, there should be clear, transparent rules, the same for everyone, this is a very important point, any manifestations of corruption there or the possibility to avoid, for example, mobilization, or some other things, they should be absent, or are they on today in our country? yes, unfortunately, there are, we know blatant cases where people who should be subject to, for example, mobilization, so that, for example, they have a previous military education there, or they graduated from military departments or some other things , they leave the country there, well, obviously to circumvent the law, because they do not have the right to do so, or they simply ignore it, well all all all those documents that come to them from our territorial centers, and which deal with mobilization issues , therefore more clear specific rules, where it will be written very clearly who falls under, in what format, where they can serve, what professions are in demand, well it will take some time, very briefly, sir igor, and one more point, this is an opportunity for people to choose in which branch of the army they

can serve, since they have certain competencies for this, in principle they can. solve the problem essentially. thank you, mr. igor, briefly but clearly, ihor yterovych, candidate of political sciences, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development. well, etre will continue with the documentary five portraits of the maidan, which are stories of unification

by the revolution of dignity. i was on the maidan almost from the first days, it was at the end of november, the first days were very fun and everyone did not want the maidan to be politicized, i started drawing for the first time when i saw the barricades, they scared me terribly, as soon as i saw the first barricade, i... i thought that violence it cannot be avoided, if there is a barricade, then there is an enemy, i only drew and did not throw stones, cocktails, or hammers, this is such a question for me, whether i was a classmate or not, it is very difficult to answer

this question to myself, no, i failed actually, everything started with the christmas tree, it was needed to start mounting, but the students protested, and actually all these branches were prepared for the christmas tree, but it did not happen, these branches went into the barricades. the next day, after the students were dispersed, the christmas tree began to be decorated with flags and slogans, to be honest, i collected the most interesting slogans: santa claus, put justice under the christmas tree, people, you are wonderful, also life is only alive, there was also, the right to protest has to stay

, they were looking for europe, they found themselves, the maidan, you could also make noise, and actually, after february 20, it was very quiet, here actually the story of sasha tonsky begins, how he was walking on february 20, there were 10 of them, eight fell, they were killed by a sniper, he also fell, but was wounded. actually, i drew this picture about this place in the hospital, sasha tonsky was telling me what actually happened to him there, and there was a barricade that was already on fire, and there

the protesters were shouting to sasha, come to us, grandfather. when i met him, he actually undressed and showed me the spot from the bullet, and at that spot it was very visible that there was a scar, yes, and a bullet written in russian, he said that the doctor who was, as if he did not have time, he took out these bullets, sewed them up and wrote: bullet, bullet, bullet, bullet on all the protesters who appeared in this hospital. i remember that i was sitting at home, reading something on the internet about the maidan, and i became so very scared, very restless, when i came to the maidan, then i seemed to become calmer, that's all our stories, that