[000:00:00;00] of the international leader in the background of a group of congressmen who want to pour their fish now purely in the pre-election race, so i will sign under each phrase, regarding the fact that every ukrainian wants weapons, not visits, that is always the case with us is repeated, of course, the package, another one accompanied, let's say, the speech of the head of the pentagon, but you and i understand that now we are all together, the white house, the pentagon, the state department, well, ukrainians, the ukrainian government, are fighting to get everything still a clear vision of funding from the us on the next financial year, well in their case from october to october, that is, it is very important for us to understand how we will allocate

resources, so in principle, i understand your... concern and i, as a ukrainian, always have something like this in my head phrase: let's be honest, you may not even come, but you better give us something extra there now. well, what can i say, we convinced them of many things, in our time, and what western countries are doing now was hard to imagine before, but i think we are missing one point, very... possible, we need to talk to them now about what will happen after the hot phase of the war, how we will protect the country from possible attacks. i am very worried about one thing: now our allies, well, we call them allies , although, unfortunately, we do not have a single ally in the world that is not enshrined in international agreements, but there may be, if we become a member of nato, then there will be allies, then there will be obligations

direct exit... on our side in the war, so i hear these words less and less, and more and more i hear giving ukraine the opportunity to to protect itself in the future, i am very worried about this, because the vision of ukraine, which can defend itself every time there by mobilizing a million people, is the wrong vision for the country, then there will be no development, the right vision is when there will be collective responsibility and collective defense. and in this regard, it seems to me that i have heard less of these signals lately from anyone from nato, from the political leadership, so uh, i think we have to think about what will happen, relatively speaking, in november of next year, we have to think what will happen to ukraine in the following years, therefore, let's be honest, ukraine will give a lot of forces, human forces , resources and everything else in this war, we cannot

prepare again in 3-4 years for the hot phase of the war again, both ours, and we must convince our partners, allies that the only way is collective defense, we won't be able to, well, israel has shown, look, please , said israel, the model of israel, the ally of the usa, the mnna, the one that someone constantly says, we need, someone says, we don't need, this is a magline, that is, that is, the country is an ally of the four agreements with israel, which are brought to the level of the allies, and the weapons warehouses on the territory, and everything is there, and the lobby is huge, in america, well , what, and it helped, the terrorists climbed up and cut off the heads, because nato already understood this, they are moving from the policy of containment to a policy of non-admission, we need a policy

of non-admission and no further waiting. who will attack us, no, collective defense, i insist on this, and these words, well, you can say, well, this is my subjective opinion, but i hear such words less often from americans, even recently, with regard to the aid of the united states of america to ukraine, could they give much more than they are giving, and is it not due to the fact that the united states of america simply has not yet decided what the defeat of russia is in the. the war with ukraine, they had already decided long ago, i can tell you that the first decision there took place, if i am not mistaken, on march 3, 2022, where they made the first, well, position, a closed meeting, about which, in principle, there were leaks in the army, and then the second after two or so

months after the start of the war, i.e. their line strategic does not change, they are aimed at the usa, i am saying now, you asked about the usa, i am talking about the usa, it means not to give putin and russia, or subjugate ukraine, well, it does not say the territorial framework, but in principle there is a treatment that is complete the de-occupation of the country, including crimea, and the second is to prevent an uncontrolled course of events in russia, they fear access by terrorist groups or uncontrolled armed groups to nuclear weapons, not even ballistic missiles, because it is much more difficult to take control there, but tactical, and they don't see frankly speaking, uh, a better situation, well, in the near future, if

the events in russia develop out of control, that is why they, they not only do not want the defeat of russia, they do so in their strategies, let's be honest, to prevent this defeat, and this is a big problem, because at the same time to achieve: the de-occupation of the territory of ukraine and at the same time, so that there is no defeat of russia, i believe that this is an impossible task, impossible, it is a big mistake that they decided that they could balance with supplies and weapons this moment, last year's mistake, when we did not receive the required amount of available weapons, available, no one will convince me, it's all a delusion, not 31 abrams tanks, america can deliver, america can easily. i can supply 300 tanks, but they won’t be there for various reasons, and they help us to de-occupy, but they don’t want to give us, let’s say, everything together at one moment, because they also want to influence

events, that’s all, well here the question of trust, there are a lot of different questions here, and i, for my part, broke down and think that this is their mistake, such a controlled escalation or a controlled war can lead to very bad consequences, that the resources that will have to be used will have to be invested many times more, and now we are at the point where they realized that they were not provided in time in terms of the amount of resources in the military plan, now they demand a completely different level, and this is a problem, let them also draw their own conclusions, but at the same time i tell you that without their support, it would be, well, we all understand, much more difficult, and another statement about from the chancellor of germany olaf scholz, he said that he is ready for new negotiations with the president of the russian federation putin, but this will only make sense if putin is ready to act. in an interview with bild, scholz said: he has to

withdraw the troops, but at the moment there are no signs that this will happen. putin must not succeed in his goal of using force to annex part of a neighboring country. well, that is, as far as i understand, valery still has leaders, world leaders, who leave this option that we are ready to talk about something with putin, but under such and such and under such and such conditions, will there come a period when they will not talk to him anymore, that is , when the red line has already been crossed, but still that and shoitz says, well, we will talk if they withdraw the troops, although everyone understands that for putin to withdraw the troops, it means... just putting a cross on his political future, although it seems to me that in russia he can announce , that the purpose of the special military operation has been fulfilled, they have already physicalized, demilitarized ukraine, well

and, as always, drive propaganda over the ears of russian citizens, what, what do you say about this, or is this a field for any conversations, for negotiations, to call him there, to tell him whether this option is still preserved? well, now it will be for a few months, in general these conversations will stop, we can already see, but only for a few months, then, of course, they will start with a new force, uh, i really hope that we will stop, or they will stop calling putin , i would like this name to go somewhere... into oblivion, because, you said with the political plan, yes, he is not interested in the political plan, this is the tsar, the tsar who fancied himself the second stalin, who carries the people of russia there, or the people of russia or muscovy, i don't know,

they, they made a huge mistake, and now of course they want, if the war was already entrenched, they made their choice, this is the leadership of russia, this is the regime, the war is beneficial to them, and this is a problem for us, because now, there were two ways of development of events, if the russians did not support the war, they would... were looking for a way to reduce the situation, the majority of russians supported the war, and partly, some of them left due to such internal isolation, fear of the regime, revenge of the regime, some left, but the majority of russians supported them, just as the germans supported the fascists in germany, at one time, the germans also supported this criminal regime, the russians bear the same shared responsibility, especially those who is involved in the abduction of children, who is involved in specific issues of state

management, and this must be understood, putin has of course concentrated power now on the basis of war, that is, now he is a hostage, well a hostage, that is now her war is his natural environment for maintaining power, therefore there will be no war, there will be a de-occupation of ukrainian territory, there will be no putin, this is obviously political, but under his leadership... the army and what remains from the soviet era, huge reserves weapons, nuclear stocks, that is, this person is sick, but psychologically sick not in the sense that is often considered there, well, all psychiatric problems, no, he just has psychology, this is a sick person, this is a person who seems to me to be a lot of such complexes, which... unfortunately, in such a high position,

manifest themselves through crimes. this has happened in history, we have not seen many things, when personal issues, problems were imposed on er , general, there are general and when you are the king there for more than 20 years, you think that everything is yours and you have the right to decide the fate of the world and people will be sent to the front, but this person, for her life, life ... women, men, children, he doesn't care, we've seen it all already, so unfortunately, unfortunately, with these characters it is very difficult, very desirable there would be some changes if they are not there, we will still have to count on the strengthening of the position, on our allies, on the fact that we will withstand this confrontation, i am convinced that everything is not as good as this in russia, even we can see through some.

.. there are numbers that are also given by russia, but paradoxically, i don’t believe a single word, but not a single word, i can roughly understand for myself when he is lying, when he is not lying, by the way, until his time, putin tried not to lie, and really, but now he just has it, this is already his second, second parallel world, a complete lie on many points, so it seems to me that they are also seriously lying about their internal situation. it is clear that they want to extend it to 24 years before the us elections, it is clear that they have everything set for next year, and what will happen in the 25th, i think it is also completely unclear for them, so, well, let's assume that there is, and i don’t see any reason, not that there should be negotiations with him, it’s a little strange to me that this criminal, there somewhere else, well, he wants, so remotely, but

they invite him, so, well, it’s a strange world, yes, it a very strange world where everyone wants to achieve, sometimes mutually exclusive, goals at the same time, well you mentioned that he is invited to virtual meetings, and such a virtual meeting will take place on november 22, putin is expected to participate in the g20 virtual summit, which is organized india, and well, this is also strange, just as strange as what it sounded like. here is a statement from the minister of foreign affairs of austria alexander schalenberg, he said that lavrov may be invited to the osce, there will be a ministerial meeting or a meeting of the council ministers, it is called the organization of the united organization for security and cooperation in europe, which will be held in skopje, and in an interview with dipresa, shallenberg said that it was correct to invite

lavrov to a meeting in the capital of northern. of macedonia, which will take place on december 1, at the same time, the minister of foreign affairs of austria calls on europe for a pragmatic and sober approach in foreign policy, and they support the integration of ukraine into the european union, but, well, austria is demonstrating, and india is demonstrating that in in principle, there will be no problem if lavrov is there, and putin will be there virtually. big twenty, are these already attempts to somehow start a dialogue with this fascist russia, with the leaders of fascist russia? well, i will say that it is the other way around, the trend is still going on, after all, it seems to me that now, well, if we talk about isolation, certain, it is the deepest since the beginning of a large-scale war, after all, because even the russian leader must admit , that he is not

coming, well, the truth is that he says that he does not want to create problems for his friends, which means that this means, it means that they don't want to see him there, but in fact, well, somewhere there, somewhere , an arrest is being made, because an arrest warrant has been issued, after all, how south africa was twisted, twisted and they didn't find a solution, to india, well, india takes such a position, in principle, like china, to meet, but it seems to me that even this virtual story with that summit they came up with as some kind of additional compensation, because a very strange story with this er... tomorrow's virtual meeting, it's no , well, the summit, okay, you know, what is it the summit, the summit, i understand that when xizenpin participates, that’s right, there was a meeting, a summit, american, chinese, pim is not participating here, by the way, i’m not sure that

joseph biden will participate there, i’m not sure, that is, we’ll see therefore, this will be a kind of compensation for putin, something to say, in russia it is presented, an opportunity to talk with western countries, that is, he will once again tell that russia wants peace, at the same time, he will give an order to kill children and women in ukraine, insidiously, well, this is a criminal creature , and then he will tell that he wants peace, and only ukraine will not agree to give 20% of its territory there, well, to give territory there, but life must be preserved, that is, this is rhetoric that we have already heard many times. so i think it's a virtual story with 20 virtual and it will end and india actually looks here, well, not very beautiful, because you know, to hold a high-level summit in new delhi, to do everything to prepare, and here is some online story for

who, for dictators who can't, they're not accepted, yeah, well, it's actually, if you were going to, you know, a group there, well, i don't know, there were children in the class gathering there, but two children have to be constantly kept at a distance somehow, because they are hooligans, they will hit someone else and that will be the end of it, it seems to me that they made it for putin in general, this, this parody of the summit, because i don't remember this, these additional elements , especially since it is said that implementation will be considered there, well, that is, first the big leaders made a decision, and now let's putin sit down, will you implement something there, well, it certainly looks strange, but lavrov, yes the story is complicated, on the one hand, lavrov completely covered up his crimes, he himself , i will remind you once again from a high platform, declared

the correctness of the strikes on the maternity ward in mariupol, these are his personal words, he said everything correctly, bombs. will be directed, he is a war criminal, his place is, of course, a follower of rebentrop, he chose his path and he is no longer a diplomat, he is not a diplomat, he is a propagandist, the fact that he is met, well, formally, he has diplomatic immunity, that is, he is fixed in the viennese convention on diplomatic law communication, and in principle, in this context, anyone, even those who are under consideration. there and the international criminal court, the possibility of a meeting with them is not denied, i don’t know, it seems to me that this issue should be reviewed in some way, but it looks very strange for us, but for some countries that expect to receive money from russia now,

there is some oil there , weapons, they don't care who lavrov is, as the chinese said that there is a path to our belt or there is one belt, one road, they had the taliban, which only we remember recently, destroyed historical monuments, and now it is the government of afghanistan, any terrorists can also take part, that is, the world is divided into two parts, one part says that there should be some value issues under relations, well, at least basic ones, and the other part says: no, the main principle is power, the main principle is that you rule over certain... you represent it, as long as you rule, that's all, this is china's approach, don't interfere in our affairs, we rule as we want, and you rule on their own and we are on equal footing, the americans are not like that and neither is ukraine

it doesn't fit like that, after all, we don't care if somewhere people are simply killed by authoritarian regimes and that's how dictators stay in power, that is, they are offended when they are called dictators, but in reality it is so, so you want to look, you know, imposing , but actually the blood is dripping from the hands, and no matter what white collar or shirt you wear there. these are these spots, spots, these red ones, you will have them, so, well, they will identify him once again, is it that putin, someone will tell that it is artificial intelligence there by 40%, identified someone will say at 60, well, this will be the game, this will be, and the point of this meeting will be zero , well, by the way, you mentioned artificial intelligence, it's the japanese, the local tv company tbs, they conducted an analysis, or rather, ordered it.

the results of the analysis of putin's voice by the laboratory of the institute of audio accompaniment of japan, they made several recordings, analyzed and came to the conclusion that the real president of russia was at the parade in moscow on may 9, and his doubles during the inspection of the crimean bridge, the similarity is 52%, and the visit to mariupol coincides with 40 %. well, that's it these are all stories about two. the real putin, not the real putin, in your opinion, this , this whole story is again being launched by the fsb and russia in order to in some way, well, remove from putin himself the responsibility for what is happening in russia, because he can always say, there is some ivanovych, or vasilych, who pressed something on the wrong button or something else, for which this whole topic is speeding up, what. he is alive, he is not alive, doubles, triples, and something else, in your opinion, what does this give putin, what maneuvers

does it give him? well, if you evaluate rationally, then any leader of the country will not want to be discussed whether he is already in the freezer or not, probably putin has no influence on this, i think that these towers of the kremlin are waging a closed struggle and it has escalated to such a degree that it is possible to have such discussions. excuse me, but let's go back to what is happening in russia, because kyrylo budanov, the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, says that 2025 will obviously be a turning point for russia, quoting general budanov. there is hope that the 25th year will be turning point in terms of internal systemic destructive changes and processes in the russian state, society and economy

, but this is not a forecast, but an expectation, mr. valery, you also called the year 2025, well, obviously, we are talking about the year of the inauguration of the new president of the united states of america , because eh, putin's election in the 24th year will obviously be brought in the 24th year. will remain in office, then sworn in, and apparently from the 25th year, when either there will be a new president of the united states of america, an old new president, or another old new president, then it will be clear what will happen to russia itself, it is about this, why the 25th year can be decisive and turning point, well , to be honest, now everyone, when there is some kind of planning, everyone thinks like this, a year ahead,

our horizon is not so far away, the same program of the international monetary fund, here in ukraine, here is the option planned there, and until the middle of the summer of next year, now they are considering until the end of the year, that is, it just so happened that everyone lives by such frameworks, somewhere by forecasts, and the 25th arose, in the 22nd, when russia began e, large-scale invasion, then various researchers and institutions calculated how much economic resources would be enough for them to wage an intensive war, of such intensity as now, and in principle, from the very beginning, those whom i trusted said that the first problems would arise. .. serious in russia only sometime in the fall of 24th, that is why i am talking about the 25th,

although they are because they are from the point of dem, well, not dumping, but still... they sold energy resources at reduced prices to the same there china india, they still extended the possibility of financing the war, but in the 25th, i no longer think that they will have such an opportunity, as it was allocated for the next year, if you look at their development, so this does not mean that something drastic will happen there, i think that we in the 24th we will see a lot at the end of next year, next year, because many moments coincide , well, actually, uh, now, we also, you know, psychologically, i think, if you ask different people like that, look at the research, somehow a new such a new date that is formed in the head, it is the summer of next year, after the summer, as it were,

the hot phase of the war must go away, well, it's purely psychological. such a moment, so i will tell you, frankly, these are all the frames of the 24th, 25th, 27th, it will move away, just the further we live, people will make these predictions, but they will be made, well, a year ahead, well, that is, a year, we roughly understand what will happen next, and what will happen in the 25th, i think that no one in the world understands, that's why everyone is talking about the 25th year now. friends, we are conducting a survey during our broadcast, we are asking you about whether corruption is necessary in ukraine? equal to treason, we conduct polls on youtube, as well as on tv, if you are sitting in front of the tv, you can call the numbers and vote in our poll, if you think that corruption in ukraine should be equated with treason, call the number 0800 2011-381, no, 0800 2011-382, call, all calls are

free for you, and on the youtube channel you can also vote, there are quite a few... just two options yes, no. we continue our conversation with valery chaly, a diplomat, a person who knows everything about foreign policy, and since, mr. valery, you know everything about our foreign policy, i would like to hear from you an assessment of what is happening now on the western border of ukraine, on the border with slovakia and poland, because the polish carriers and slovaks block the border with ukraine, as in this situation... official kyiv should behave and what to do in this situation, because both slovaks and poles understand very well that their countries are our window to the world now, because there are problems we have sea ports and this route is important

of ukraine to the west precisely through poland and slovakia, what are they doing right , what are they not doing wrong, if... they are doing something wrong, then what can be done so that both slovakia and poland still act within the limits of current european legislation and agreements, well, you know, it arose due to certain peculiarities , the introduction of such a more, preferential regime for ukrainian carriers in connection with large-scale aggression, but not only, in our country, in principle, decisions on liberalization were made and the further they are, the more and more will be adopted, i.e. ukraine is moving to the european union, but it should be a two-way road, so i believe that the truth is on our side, a decision was made in brussels to continue such a regime for our carriers on the european union market as it is now, i.e. this

a direct violation of the decisions made in brussels, these people should, well , i don't mean those who are standing there, change... the differences , namely the politicians, should decide whether they generally carry out brussels' all not only recommendations, mandatory things or not, this the border only with poland, slovakia, or is it the border with the european union, that is, in fact , they went for a very long time, many concessions, the same poland and slovakia, when they joined the european union, and now they essentially want to compensate for this, win back... in ukraine , well, that’s how i see it, unfortunately, but specifically at this moment, only this way, because earlier there was an issue with grain, was it possible to philosophize about how this supply was formed and where everything was sold, but here, well pure open, pure issue, i.e. ukraine, which has all rights according to our bilateral agreements with the european union, is blocked and the