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the czech republic was welcomed and even given the opportunity to hold the olympic games there, and although part of the country blocked them, they took place. unfortunately, the so-called real politics, it exists, at the same time, we, as a parliament, we, as a country , do everything to prevent this from happening, and even so, our actions must be as offensive as possible, regardless of the danger, i am grateful to our delegation, to the osce, in particular to yevgenia and all the others who had the opportunity to visit yerevan, and armenia is one of the examples of the fact that russia is not gaining, losing ground, and, that is, russia's permanent partner in the caucasus, has actually now ratified the rome statute, and that led to the fact that the russian delegation was banally afraid to come, because they could not let them in, but they could arrest them right there, in principle, on the spot, therefore, i would like to say
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everything is in our hands, really everything is very crazy work and crazy, crazy sacrifices , we have to prevent this banally, if we relax, if we as a country are led to this exhaustion by the so-called war, but, somehow , it is very unfortunate that our european partners get tired faster. from ours, from the war in ukraine, than the ukrainians, who are constantly under fire every night, die in the trenches, civilians die, children are stolen, yes, we need to be more offensive, can this lead to a general revision of the entire geopolitical balance, well let us recall that the un, in principle, the parliamentary assembly, the council of europe were founded
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when the soviet union actively fought against colonialism, and these were, in particular, the mechanisms of the fight against colonialism, but for some reason only there british, there french, spanish, but not domestic russian, right? our important task now is to convince not only the west, the western world, but also the global south, which is why there is so much attention to this region. about the fact that in fact colonialism is not limited to them, not only europe colonized, actually there, across the ocean , but very much, well, and russia colonized the peoples nearby, and the soviet union somewhat solved this issue, but unfortunately, not completely, and now a banal colonial war is going on, russia, as a former metropolis, does not allow ukraine to be,
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independently, in order to independently...' influence its future, the world is always tired of warriors, the world will always look for options, if we could agree, and therefore it is very important for us to support the coalition that we have, the baltic countries, poland, despite even economic problems in geopolitical terms, these are our most strategic partners, the czech republic, the united states' own conviction that ah, not ordering the russian space on the basis of democracy, this is simply postponing another explosion, so what if russia breaks his teeth, to ukraine, then, in principle, there will still be a challenge that russia is not democratized, not disintegrated, it will simply try to regain its positions, and of course it will not strive there through online communication, but to go to
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global summits and spread our, our own propaganda of this russian world, we have to oppose this with our partners, so far we are succeeding, we are intensifying our efforts and then the most negative scenario that you have not described, it will not come true, thank you, mr. yaroslav, mr. rostislav, when the world says that we will support ukraine, what putin has to suffer. whether we speak the same language to the world about the victory of ukraine and the defeat of russia, or whether we understand the same thing by our victory and by their defeat, well , a very important question, because here there is an extremely important aspect, how to not just talk about ukraine in the same language, because , based on the results, it seems as if we speak the same language, appeal to the same values, use the same procedures. that is, to say
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that ukraine is somewhere left alone, like this it was 100 years ago, fortunately it is not possible, but we see that, after a year and a half of war, something is really being changed. and its process of interaction with ukraine, and to the extent that admiration for ukrainian victories is fading away, and populism is starting to work in many countries, the economic factor is starting to work, we need to find other arguments in order to keep attention and keep the world on our side, keep the understanding that ukraine is an integral part of the democratic world that is under attack from outside, under attack from from russia, is under attack from iran, their proxies, and so on and so forth, and there are several levels here, and i talked about one of them in the previous part, which is related to our internal reforms, but this is also a question of more
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such a proactive treatment of, partners, colleagues said something about it in terms of a more active position there, we involve allies and so on, but it seems to me that in addition to this, it is also worth involving... various economic arguments concerning, for example, immediately we all say war is delayed, there is a threat of transition to the positional phase and so on, then it is about the interest of the partners in long-term cooperation, in particular in defense technologies, in particular in the combination of modern science and production in order to deprive russia of the advantage in numbers that it has, and thanks to the technological superiority of developed countries, when forcing them to leave ukraine and peace negotiations and the like, and in the plot we saw how putin flaunted what he said, did not stop and talk about peace, but we understand what it is about, for them peace is the capitulation of ukraine, this is the disappearance of ukraine, this is not peace in any way, but peace will come when
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russia ceases to exist as an imperial entity that continues to carry a threat, and indeed for us is a very important task ... joining nato and the eu, because it will be a barrier for russia , but it is also a task for the world to find mechanisms that will pull out this sting from russia, which it uses, so that it cannot speculate on the processes within international organizations, cannot use the mechanisms of these international organizations against themselves, but it seems today the european parliament made a decision that it recommends that even in the european union the decision should be made not by consensus, but by a qualified majority, because we see the threats of populism, we see how the leadership of hungary and slovakia are behaving, and if even the european union will think about the reform of the issue of decision-making, then obviously this is an issue for the osce,
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obviously this is an issue for the united nations organization, and here ukrainian diplomacy should be very active, offensive in order to find alliances, to find coalitions. and these issues should also be resolved, these are the three directions: internal reforms, economic interest and interaction with colleagues who are also interested in the reform of the international legal order, it seems to me, and will allow them to seize the initiative again and move forward at this stage of the war by the way, you mentioned orban, today there was information that the prime minister of hungary wrote a letter to the head of the european council, charles michel, in which he threatens to block all decisions. regarding financing of ukraine, the opening of negotiations on accession to the eu, which should take place in december, or further sanctions against russia, if the eu leaders do not revise the strategy of supporting kyiv during the summit in december, the letter, the content of the letter is published by the politician, i will quote a passage,
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the eurocouncil should summarize the results of the implementation and effectiveness of our current policy towards ukraine, as well as hold a frank discussion about the realism of strategic goals. eu, in ukraine. mrs. evgenia, does this mean that hungary will always be this fifth wheel the european union, which is basically, or should i say it in another way, a trojan horse in the european union, which will constantly hinder us, because if there is a single common european policy, then a lot of questions arise for the european union itself, where hungary is still located , because hungary begins to blackmail in spite of everything, and begins to impose certain conditions on the european community, despite the fact that they themselves are a country that receives a lot from the european union, and they threaten to block aid to ukraine, which is currently waging a war with the russian federation , actually
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in this way, orbán is trying to unlock the money that brussels does not give to budapest due to problems with the rule of law, it is not a big secret that in various criteria, hungary asked very strongly for freedom of speech, after their judicial reform, which does not meet the criteria there, and there are about 13 billion euros of funds that are frozen, but actually orbán wants to get them in this way, speculating, of course, with his veto right, and still, i would like to say that it is not all of hungary, because indeed there, even though it is in the minority, but there is a position, and absolutely adequate, and this is actually the behavior of the prime minister, but again , we see certain trends in another country, the country that is our neighbor, slovakia,
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so far it does not come to - there are some words about blocking, and sell weapons, they are ready, because they have production and it is part of the economy there, part of the gdp, but in the case of hungary, just in case, well, the allocation of funds can be bypassed, because it can be just agreements between ukraine and individual countries of the european union, which are actually the largest donors, as well as financial ones aid, then in the case of a decision, a political decision of the european council in december, after which negotiations on ukraine's accession to the european union should, well, officially open , hungary, orban will use this very tool... uh, well, fully, and uh, well, we also
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have to be aware that in the case of fulfilling the seven points, we have to do everything so that there are no questions for us, that we did something there, so we didn't want to take it into account, right? took into account, then our friends in brussels, in other countries, yes, in the capitals, there will be arguments, well, after all, to solve this issue with vegetables , so that they do not do it simply, because it is easy to do it from other countries, i apologize to them, thank you, ms. evgenia, ladies and gentlemen, after a short break we will return to our broadcast , don't switch, please stay with us, there are discounts on pills, sizzling pump, 20% in pharmacies plantain, bam and savings, usual things become unreal, heavy bags are not for me. back, for back pain, try dolgit cream. kremgit relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves
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friends, this is the verdict program, we are working
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live on the tv channel, during this broadcast we are conducting a survey, today we we ask about that. do you know about ukraine's victory plan? yes no please vote on our uh youtube it's pretty simple choose yes no or write your comments if you have a special opinion below this video for those who are watching us now on telekanan everything is much simpler, you pick up the phone and vote, so if you know about ukraine's victory plan, call 0800-21-381, if you don't know, call 0800 2011-382. all calls to these numbers are free, it is important for us to know your opinion, what you think about this, well, how do you react to this, today we have on the air, people's deputies of ukraine, yevhennia kravchuk, rostyslav pavlenko, yaroslav yurchyshyn, and we have already started talking about orban and
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how orban is trying to protect the interests of his own state. above european interests or the european community, but at the same time we observed how slovakia and poland blocked the ukrainian border, with slovakia , as if the issue would already be resolved, well, as colleagues mentioned a little earlier, unfortunately, the problem of populism is not unique, it concerns not only countries where democracy is only being established and is being built, such as ukraine. and the countries of stable democracies , let's remember how the united states once elected trump, purely on populist slogans, and unfortunately, the chance that he will flounder and have a high result still remains high. ah, the issue , actually, of blocking the border, demonstrates a certain
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incapacity in the inter-election period, specifically in poland and the fact that pro-russian populists came to power in slovakia and why the issue itself was resolved quickly enough slovakia, this is due to the active position of their colleagues in the european union, first of all, the czech republic and in cooperation with the ukrainian side, i think that the further the government in poland stabilizes, this issue will also be resolved. we have. that despite the fact that the values ​​and the basic level are really decisive for the european union, after all , europe started with common interests, the unification of coal and steel actually took place in order for the struggle for these resources not
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to separate in primarily germany and france and did not suffer from this. actually europe, therefore, for us, all these examples are painful, tough, which in principle show us that we always need to remember that , despite european integration, countries will have their own interests, they encourage us only to think very clearly our personal steps, to prepare for the fact that negotiations with the european union will be quite painful. because it is necessary to find an understanding with at least 27 subjects, and i agree with ms. yevgenia one hundred percent, orban, despite all his public pathos about the fact that he he cares about the rights of hungarians in ukraine, god forbid that ukrainians in hungary have the same rights as hungarians have in ukraine now, and what about him, he
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worries that the resources of the european union are not being used as effectively as we would like, especially in supporting ukraine , and we actually disagree on only one thing, that he should be given access to the resources of the european community , which actually received the economy of hungary, because they are currently in a stalemate, the populism of hungary has led orbán to the complications of relations with the european union, and russia is exhausted war, to support hungary as it did before, in principle, it cannot either, that is, this is a real policy, unfortunately, we will be faced with the fact that the issue of ukraine, which is an extremely critical situation, is not the first time, it will not be the last time. whether defending the entire western world is fighting the aggressor country, will be a trading card in all future elections, and we need to prepare for this, we
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need to activate our own international communication, using all methods , including parliamentary diplomacy to the maximum, simplifying, not complicating the border crossing procedure for especially those people who are parliamentarians... who actively work in the foreign policy sphere, and use any mechanisms, for now a very difficult decision awaits on december 14 about the start of official negotiations, and of course hungary will raise the stakes as much as possible , as for slovak, in this case, there is a very light shoulder of communication through the czech republic and the united states, which have a substantial influence, regardless of ... the pro-russian orientation of the fiz, that is, with hungary, well, it will deal with
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actual extortion, classic, either we block you from everything related to ukraine, or you return european funds to us, and well, i also recently returned from brussels, ah, and a support group for ukraine, the european commission, which deals with the actual issue on the beginning of negotiations with ukraine, they treat it calmly, i understand that they have methods , thank you, mr. yaroslav, mr. rostyslav, but we are already on the threshold of these negotiations, in fact , with one foot there, we see what is happening now on our border with our neighbors , but there are obviously some things that concern internal politics, internal problems that we have in ukraine, what in your opinion can stand in the way, from... the conversation with the european union and this great preparation for joining the european union, and what tasks we have coped with, and what tasks are still problematic for us?
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well, i too, as in the previous questions, could divide it into three components, the first is actually internal ukrainian issues, those that, well , appeal to them, allow different populists in different countries to talk about the alleged unpreparedness of ukraine, well, obvious hungary is an example, i hope that we will find a compromise solution in the parliament and that the specialized committee there will vote for it, in order to remove any educational and language issues there regarding what the hungarians tell us about, and for everything else, we will have to work using all the possibilities and forces, here i absolutely agree with yaroslav that it is necessary to simplify, and not complicate, the procedure for the departure of people's deputies. and experts and deputies of various levels in order to increase the number of negotiators, agitators in a good
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meaning of this word, which would convince at various levels the participants of the political process in other countries, and neighboring and distant countries, in order to remove all the layering of problems, and indeed the issues of freedom of speech, the rule of law and others, we must demonstrate here constant progress and positive changes in the atmosphere, so that our enemies had nothing to complain about, on the contrary, our allies were always able to say, well, look, they did one thing, they did another thing, they did a third thing , here is the law, here is its implementation, here it is, what arose, raised a question, it has already been resolved, negotiators are actively being let in, everyone is involved, i think this will really strengthen our positions, the second, well, it is related to the first, it is precisely work at... levels in the countries on which it depends decision, it is now all countries, because each one has the right of veto, and at least for this decision there will not be those structural changes that i was talking about, which...
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is thinking that maybe the right of veto should not be so absolute, this time , unfortunately, we will have to, must have, with him business, so work here at different levels, both political and public, would be very helpful , and as for hungary, poland and other neighbors and partners, it would allow them to show how beneficial it would be for them to work with ukraine and support ukraine . and not to follow the devices of their populists, and the third issue is, of course, the formation of this common interest so that we understand that ukraine is joining nato and the eu as a security donor. we are fighting for all of europe, unfortunately, europeans are not like that believe, because they think that they will be protected by the nato umbrella, but there are many other issues, economic cooperation, security
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cooperation, for sure... they understand that the louder the defeat of russia, the safer they will definitely be in all senses, maybe they are very afraid of a direct military invasion , but they definitely understand that russia will strike on the economic front, information front, cyber, everything else in the modern world, and very interconnected countries, and here ukraine definitely has what to offer to allies and friends, and active work in these directions will really allow us to strengthen the impression that ukraine does indeed protect the world from the outside, the democratic world from external threats, and this will definitely simplify the negotiations for us, specifically about joining the eu and nato. thank you, mr. rossislava, ms. tapanova, thank you for participating in the program, it was yevhennia kravchuk, rostyslav pavlenko and yaroslav yurchyshyn. friends, i would like to remind you that during our program we conducted a survey, we asked you about the following: do you know about the plan victory of ukraine, now we will see
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the result. this survey, because we conducted the survey both on youtube and on tv, we see that 9% say that they know about the victory plan, and 91% do not, well, obviously, this shows the communication that is now, or absent between the authorities and citizens, our tv viewers, i hope that, after all, the ukrainian authorities will explain and formulate what... what is the plan for ukraine's victory over russia, well, we will say goodbye to these thoughts, i mean not from thoughts, on this, on these thoughts we will to say goodbye to you, this was the verdict program , it was conducted by serhii rudenko, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and your relatives, goodbye.
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in ukraine and bring to your attention a news broadcast on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval, greetings to all viewers. russian troops began the third wave of the offensive in the avdiyiv direction. this was stated by the commander of the troop groups. avria oleksandr ternavskyi. after a relative lull , they increased the number of attacks by 30%. at the same time, our defenders are holding the front and inflicting losses on the enemy only in the last day. in this direction, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed more than 700 invaders and eight tanks, the military officer added. the situation in the ukrainian energy system remains difficult. as reported by ukrenergo, repairs are underway at several blocks of thermal power plants. in
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addition, due to the cooling,

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