tv [untitled] November 23, 2023 8:00pm-8:31pm EET
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the air temperature at night will be low to -6-8°, but it will also warm up a bit during the day, although the air temperature here will still be lower than, for example, in the west. cloudy weather will prevail in the central part of ukraine tomorrow, the air temperature will also be positive from two to 5° above zero in the afternoon, and it is clear that it will be the warmest in the southern part of ukraine, +8 +12° in the crimea even up to +14 without significant precipitation. in kyiv, in kyiv, the weather will change tomorrow, because, for example, it is snowing now, it will snow and sleet, the wind from the southwest will increase direction, and tomorrow, this snow will turn into rain, and the air temperature in the capital tomorrow will reach 4-5° above zero. such a difficult weather is observed now.
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i want to remind you, i already mentioned this yesterday, that during november 26-27 in ukraine , there will be substantial weather conditions, snowfalls, even snow drifts, sticking wet snow and strengthening of the wind to gale force, so please keep a close eye on any changes weather and, of course, according to the weather forecast on the espresso channel. with you until tomorrow and then the verdict serhii rudenko, let's watch together. good evening, we are from ukraine, glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i greet everyone and wish everyone good health.
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for the next two hours, we are talking about ukraine, about the victory over western europe, this is all in our program , today in the issue, the gates to europe have been closed, the strike of carriers, who and why is blocking the passage of trucks through the ukrainian border, another manipulation by the russian dictator, why putin constantly talks about negotiations with ukraine, diplomacy for the sake of victory, what is behind the unexpected visits of austin epistorius to kyiv , we will talk about this and other things during the next hour with our guests, people's deputies of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko and valentyn nalyvaichenko, and diplomat oleksandr kharia. however, before we start our conversation, let's watch a video about the results of the soldiers of the volyn brigade, this time the defenders burned a kamaz, bmp with infantry and a tank with
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free for you, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, well, the conversation of course, we will start with an important topic, which has become particularly relevant since the last week, because the border blockade, which is near ukraine, on the western border of ukraine, it raises a lot of questions, and today the polish farmers who joined the blockade of transporters on the border with ukraine , are planning to continue their round-the-clock protest until january 3, although they initially planned to block the border crossing until saturday, analyst maksym bilyavsky on the espresso channel called the strike of polish carriers actually a trade blockade of ukraine and told what consequences these could lead to, unfortunately, this is not yet ready. synchronism shows me,
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the editor prompts, whether we already have oleksiy honcharenko on the phone, we are waiting for oleksiy honcharenko, people's deputy of ukraine, to contact him. and information appeared from serhiy kuyun, who writes on his facebook page that in connection with the blocking of the polish border , gas at gas stations in ukraine is disappearing in places and it is rapidly becoming more expensive, the reason for blocking the polish border, through which 30% of imports, or about 25% of the liquefied petroleum gas market, came by road. of gas, that is, ukraine is already beginning to feel the blockade on itself, and this is very bad, today there was information that about 1,400 trucks are standing on the border, on the ukrainian-polish border,
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and the poles are blocking passenger cars, they believe that the ukrainian movement vehicles, the territory of poland is a threat to polish carriers, because polish carriers make money from it, and of course there are a lot of questions about how the poles are now behaving with ukraine, because we know that we have problems with ports in ukraine and there are problems with, of course , air transportation, because they have been suspended since february 24, 2022, and we already have people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy goncharenko in touch. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. we welcome you. we have already started a conversation with our viewers about the blockade that ukraine fell into on the western
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border. let's try to explain in detail why this is happening, why the poles are in a rather difficult situation, in which. ukraine ended up, they still resort to blocking the border and keep our trucks at the border, although many goods enter from the western border, and in principle we had a big window to western europe, and now they are trying to close this window, why? a very complex and multifaceted topic, let 's analyze it, so the first one, i want to say right away that in this situation from the point of view of from the point of view of morality, of course, that the truth is on our side, what these polish carriers are doing now, in fact, is, well , the ukrainian ambassador said a blow in the back, in principle, this is true, we have an agreement with the european union that allows
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for our carriers to go, it is obvious how important these transportations are for us, and at such a moment, well, it is natural to do so, and at such a moment we will not violate. the law, the law, i repeat, law, international law, is on our side, however, we have a situation where in poland, de facto, well, there is no one to put things in order, and the current government is leaving, and it does not want to deal with this difficult issue, that it is leaving, it seems that it did not come, but from relations, well, who does not leave duda, the president of poland, he remains , but let's be honest, after zelenskyi's speeches in the un general assembly, the exchange of such pleasantries in the pubis, personal relations are very significantly damaged, i don't even know if this direct contact between the presidents of ukraine and poland is maintained now,
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so we actually there is no one to appeal to poland in order for them to solve this situation, because only they can solve it, we cannot in any way influence what is happening on polish territory. and this is a huge problem, what to do with it, unfortunately, we have to be prepared that it will not end tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, with the polish government. god forbid that he will appear somewhere before december 10th, and there will be many challenges for him there too, and it will not be so easy, and this is also a problem, the first thing we have to do is to prevent the spread of this so that it armchair fire, you know, no spread to other countries, we have already seen an attempt of such actions in slovakia, and by the way, despite how skeptical we are of the novoslovakian government, but the slovaks coped with it, literally quickly and unblocked the border, it is important for us that this does not go to romania, that is, it is important for us
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that this, at least in the first step, does not spread in poland. second, in poland itself we need to do something, we need to include legal mechanisms as well, what i mean is that when the trucks are parked, there are already goods being transported there, which spoil quickly and a lot of things another, and these are damages, these are substantial damages, ukraine must go to court, we know these people , we see their faces, we see the numbers of these cars that are blocking, ukraine must include a legal component and start legally defending itself, this is not a quick way , but the sooner we start it, the sooner we will have some result, and besides, let me remind you that one of the demands of the poles, well those poles who are blocking the border, is access to the road system, and what we are talking about, i i will explain, i think many viewers may not understand at all what the poles are doing here, the way and so on
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further, the fact is that polish carriers for transportation within ukraine use ukrainian drivers for obvious reasons, because for a polish driver, well, these are risks, ukraine is a war zone, unfortunately, we understand that, and they definitely have to pay much more there funds, it's all economics, that is, polish companies use ukrainian drivers to transport goods, but polish companies... do not have access to the road system, that is, they cannot register when it comes to an adult man who does not have three minor children, but in general, if he is a man who is subject to potential mobilization, then he cannot cross the border, and for ukrainian carriers, they have access to the shlyah system, and they register this driver, and the driver can leave, enter, and it works, but the polish cannot , they demand it, because they believe that it is unfair competition, that ukrainian carriers... have access, and they do not have access, and in fact, well, here if the questions
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were certain there is, and to say that here they are there one hundred percent wrong, well, yes, you know, i would be careful here, but this is part of the general problem that exists in the state today, with the state border, it's not just about the road, unfortunately, it's a systemic problem that it is necessary to decide, because the way it works today, it cannot work for years, well, it cannot work for years, to close the border for a large part of society in independence , what they are with and what they are going to, this is a question, moreover, we all understand , what kind of corruption it creates, because everyone knows and rates, and how much it is necessary to pay in order to get the relevant documents and continue to go, they know this very well in poland, and they also know this very well in europe, unfortunately, this history, and therefore all the more they think that it is not fair, that , that they are not equal in this competition, i just mentioned a few. which must be decided, that if
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we want to solve this issue, and we need to solve it, because you said absolutely correctly, this is our window to the world, in the conditions of the largely closed black sea, this is our window to the world, and poland is for us key partner, one more thing, i'm sorry for the long answer, but i'm concluding, it's very important when solving this situation not to break pots with poland, not to repeat the mistakes of the grain, grain, grain crisis that was, because , well, we won't gain anything from deterioration of relations with poland, poland is our key ally, we have one thing in common, the fact that the poles understand even today that, god forbid, if they finish off ukraine, they will come to them, and they understand this perfectly, and we unites much more than divides, and therefore in this dispute and in in order to resolve this issue, we cannot repeat the mistakes of the grain companies and prevent the deterioration of relations with poland and the deterioration of the attitude towards ukraine in polish
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society, despite the fact that i will repeat once again that these polish carriers are wrong in this particular issue, but unfortunately, we are not in the conditions where we can slam the door somewhere, because we cannot slam the door on the western border, because the door on the eastern border has been broken by a horde that comes and goes, and without the poles it will be very difficult. analyst maksym bilyavskyi. espresso called the strike of polish carriers is actually a trade blockade and told what consequences it could lead to: let's listen to what he said. if this audacity continues, there are great threats, in particular, bankruptcy, of a large number of enterprises that, in fact, by selling and supplying ukrainian goods to the european union market , receive currency for their own products, all of which
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goes into the national, our system, well, and in fact, precisely due to the receipt of this currency, the exchange rate of the hryvnia is determined, therefore one of the challenges - it is directly the inflation of the hryvnia against foreign currencies, and, accordingly, the growth, growth, of prices for consumer goods , which are also imported, this is what the analyst maksym bilyavskyi said, and what the businessmen themselves, whom i i read on social networks, in particular oleksiy devidenko, he writes that two months ago, it cost €1,500 to bring a container from dansk to kyiv, now it costs €6,000. this means that as a result, goods are increasing in ukraine due to this crisis, many goods are stuck in
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a traffic jam in front of the border, many goods are grown due to delivery... do you see the reaction of the ukrainian government, the necessary reaction, and how to react in this situation, you said that there is no need to quarrel with the poles, as was the case when zelsky spoke from the podium , the united nations organization, that they are playing along with russia there, but it turns out that the poles are playing along now from russia, because in the conditions of the blockade and the actual blockade, it is acceptable. or from the east and from the south, we only have a few windows left: slovakia, romania, poland, and how to be in this situation at all and what does it mean can result in? well, first of all, look, let's say not poles, but a maximum of a few thousand poles there, out of tens
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of millions, and in all these actions not such a large number of poles take part, this must be... absolutely understood and this must be said, because i repeat once again, we have no right to spoil relations with the poles, if only for one reason, then excuse me, but with whom do we have relations? well, let's look at the map, it means one neighbor, an aggressor who is destroying us, belarus is already occupied by the aggressor, which accepts participation in the fact that we are being destroyed, and hungary, with which there is nothing to talk about and there is nothing to catch, because that is really an agent of moscow, the poles are not... moscow, maybe some of them are acting on the mill , russian, but they will definitely not deliberately play along with moscow. in slovak, the government, which does not want, for example , to provide military aid to ukraine, then excuse me, but what do we have left for romania, well, this, this, we, we, well, we understand that this, this is a colossal a challenge, therefore
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it is definitely not necessary to form with the poles, but it is definitely not necessary to do this, what should the government do, i believe that the government should go and hold... a meeting on the polish -ukrainian border, officially invite the polish government , please come, let them, but the polish government must be put in conditions where they cannot ignore it and jointly hold a government meeting on border and talk, let's deal with each point , 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, here we are, here you, here this one, explain the position, let's look for a way out of this, who will benefit from this, or will poland benefit from this, no , does it benefit? catastrophe, ie from only putin will win from this, so let's stop it, putin's scenario, why don't we implement it, that's what governments exist for, that's what diplomacy exists for, that's what the ministry of foreign affairs exists for, that's what parliaments exist for, we need to stop it, block the deputies , parliamentary diplomacy, when many deputies there were not allowed to go to warsaw, as in other
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countries, to work with the poles, the time has come, this is now to show that we know how to overcome any crisis, it is, in addition, an opportunity to show our real qualities, yes our government is capable of something, is it capable only of puffing its cheeks, and accepting funds that come from somewhere, and also steal them a little along the way, we see these endless corruption scandals, well, actually, well, this is an explanation , well, show your effectiveness, efficiency, take steps , don't sit, don't wait for something and don't say, here i am reading, we won't make any concessions to anyone, it's such a beast. who benefits from this? well, let's be honest, whatever the consequences of this crisis, poland will surely survive them? and ukraine? well, that's rhetorical. of course, a question, mr. oleksiy, let's put an end to this, thank you for the inclusion, oleksiy honcharenko, people's deputy of ukraine, was on our broadcast, we continue our broadcast,
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the president of the czech republic, peter pavel, stated that russia remains the main security threat to ukraine, and a high-intensity conflict between nato and a terrorist country is quite likely . what the czech president said. we will come back a little later, but i will quote what he said: according to modern calculations, russia will need at least 5-7 years to restore its combat capability. on the other hand, there are many conditions in these calculations, that can change the situation, a lot will depend on what the outcome of the war will be, how ukraine and russia will come out of it, and most importantly, what security agreement was concluded. after its completion - said peter pavel. well, everyone hopes for ukraine and that depending on what will happen on the battlefield
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, what will be the agreement, whether there will be or not with russia, and why, in your opinion, mr. valentin, if they count on ukraine, why, after all, ukraine does not get all that it asks for and what can allow ukraine to dominate the front russian-ukrainian. front, i confirm that everything really depends on the armed forces of ukraine, on our defenders, including the future of nato, including the future of the european union, and this is what i, as a member of parliament, and other parliamentarians use in negotiations with our international partners, and daily ones, there is not a day when we do not work with international partners, for the sake of the main thing, we want to maintain and increase assistance with weapons, training, and tools for our armed forces of ukraine. first and foremost: in december, that is, from next month already in the european union, at the level of the eu leaders,
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the defense aid plan for ukraine for the next year will be agreed upon. because if you want to get help tomorrow, you have to decide today. that is why we are solving this today. this non-defense assistance will include training for our defenders, the military. this assistance will include additional and weapons as such, including ammunition and projectiles, and the third, this will include cyber security and other defense and security assistance from the member states of the european union, and for all this, yes, we we expect that the european union will allocate more than 20 billion dollars, i am talking about next year and about the defense needs of the armed forces of ukraine. now with regard to modern weapons, well, here we are, let's look at all this professionally. in order to get modern weapons, it is necessary to teach them to our defenders so that they know how to use them, master them and , moreover, apply them on the battlefield, that is
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, in essence, our general staff, our commanders and our command on the go arm, train and wage war, well , i claim that this is a unique experience, and none other armies of the world did not solve so many issues at the same time, that is why they are not solved so quickly and not so soon. as for more modern weapons systems, well, let's take a specific example, the same hymers , remember, a year ago we, you know, as everyone discussed and only hoped, whether we would get it or not, this year we will not just get it, it's not just that they are in the arsenal forces, our professional slavic military impresses the enemy, the last particularly impressive examples are when they gather for awards in skadovsk and somewhere else in the south and right there they are covered together with the command, these are all accurate and you know, such professional shots of our military, and on modern systems of such serious volley fire, there will be additional highmars, if
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we talk about planes. i'll say very briefly: f16 is just now being mastered by our pilots, but it's not just that you get on the plane and know that it 's called a viper, that's what it's called a viper, but there's computer equipment, english language, technical specifications for which you need to have military education received in nato member countries, that is, our pilots at the same time, they are getting an education and improving their language, and most importantly, they are mastering the f-16 combat fighter and i... i am convinced that in the coming months, the f-16 with our pilots will be in the ukrainian sky to protect us from terrorist missile attacks of russia. we hear, mr. valentin, what the president of the czech republic, peter pavel, is saying, but there is also an assessment of the head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine, oleksandr lytvynenko, who wrote a rather lengthy text on the website of interfax of ukraine, that he,
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what he says, he says about that at the president of russia intends to restore the empire somewhere in the interval of 10-15 years, because there will be a redistribution of spheres of influence in the world and in this context he can restore the russian empire or, well, the empire he dreams of there, the russian federation must restore its military capabilities in 2028, that is, they will be able to return to their capabilities, which they had as of the beginning of 2022, that is, at the beginning of... the great war in the 28th year, putin will make an alternative to the west in the form of south plus, global south plus, i.e. create a large structure, including economically, which he will help, and this will prevail over western countries, and the russian federation is preparing for new aggressions, lytvynenko says that it is
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about preparation. russia's attack on moldova or the baltic countries, and of course, of course about ukraine, that this will be destabilization inside the country and a war of attrition, how do you assess these forecasts and to what extent they can be implemented by putin, this is the first and second thing that can stand in the way of these far-reaching forecasts and plans for the redistribution of the world, because it is clear that putin is not the main one in the redistribution of the world, it can be xi jinping or joe biden , but putin has long since moved to some third or fourth step there in encroachments on the redistribution of the world, well, not to the third, to the fourth, he has generally left the circle of those people, i mean putin, who in the world make any decisions, well, this is the objective truth, and whoever doubts it, look at the meeting and its results
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between the chinese leader xi and the president. joe biden, well, they clearly said, everything is in front of our eyes, leader to leader, we will be among ourselves to decide everything, we don't need putin or everyone else who thought that they would somehow influence the world order, the world economy and so on, but returning to the essence of your question, i will first say a professional thing that any intelligence information or intelligence information, must be submitted to the national security and defense council, there was even such a thing once and is, i think... the body of the intelligence committee, where several intelligence agencies, all special services provide information, it is analyzed, checked and only after that, it is reported to the president or is given to the press, that's why i'm kind of careful, you know, i respect the ukrainian special services and know how they work, and i warn only one thing, even if they got some plan or document, the main thing is not to promote putin himself and this putin document, the main thing is completely different.
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we must clearly say that thanks to the combat work of the armed forces of ukraine, russia will never restore its military potential, which was at least in some form before the start of full-scale aggression, this is firstly, secondly, the international sanctions that have already been imposed and which are planned further, and in the eu, and the united states, and canada, to be used against russia against russia's defense and industrial complex , they will not allow and did not allow and will not allow, most importantly , new russian developments, russian weapons and so on, to be implemented into life, even though everyone is desperate and in fact, you know, the stalinist efforts of the putin regime now to transfer the remnants of the economy and the remnants of the defense-industrial complex to military rails, even, well, returning again to the western special services, which, in my opinion, in which such serious-
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