the main thing is completely different, we must clearly say that thanks to the combat work of the armed forces of ukraine, russia will never restore its military potential, which was at least in some form before the start of full-scale aggression, this time. second, international sanctions, which have already been imposed and which are planned to be applied further in the eu and the united states and canada against russia, against russia's defense and industrial complex, will not be allowed. and did not and will not allow the most important new developments of russian weapons and so on to be embodied in life, even in spite of all the desperate and essentially such stalinist efforts of the putin regime now to transfer the remnants of the economy and the remnants of the defense-industrial complex to military rails, even turning again to the western special services, which, in my opinion, are so serious.

well, everyone saw, putin scared, scared with all his rockets, daggers, iskanders and so on, well, experts figured it out, they see that the same dagger is nothing more than a modified iskander just to be lifted by an airplane, and it is not hypersonic and so on and so on, that is, there are many such, you know, propaganda images of the russian aggressor, the russian regime, which they try to pass off to us as some such serious information, believe it, and i don’t believe it, a completely different important, important thing is that russia is economically not is able now and will not be able in the future, in the event of further sanctions, to restore its defense-industrial complex, i am not saying that it should be seriously increased, mr. valentin, but with regard to internal destabilization in ukraine, because we heard from the president that in russia the federation is preparing a plan, well, under the conventional

name of maidan: three, to create conditions for people to go out into the streets in the capital, well, in particular , in ukraine, in wartime it is clear that this cannot be done, it is, no, no, no, illegal, and so, it is obvious that the ukrainians themselves will not do this, but we have a rather serious fifth column inside the country, it is also a branch of the russian orthodox church, they can go there with flags and lead a procession around the verkhovna rada or somewhere else streets, and then show that the ukrainian security forces do not allow them to do this to do, we have, in all authorities, more than 4,000 people who are elected from opzzh, a party that is already banned in ukraine, but the deputies are still opzzhists, that is, you as a person who twice headed the security service of ukraine, what do you say , how... is it likely that

russia can do this, or activate those sleeper agents of the fsb who are in ukraine in order to create tension, internal political tension? i really headed the security service of ukraine twice and for almost five years, and during these periods there was not a single inspired successful action by the russian federations in the form of protests, maidans, and so on. do you know why? because. the security services of ukraine and other ukrainian special services have enough forces and resources, to strictly neutralize enemy agents, collaborators, i would also add, it is also necessary to remove top-corrupt people from power , from the budget and from the government and from the parliament , including, here are three components of success in order to preserve truly national unity in the country during the war, one more thing, in the parliament, here i declare absolutely: authoritatively,

there are not and will not be any movements during the war political destabilization, and so on, and so on, i am talking about the democratic factions, i represent the homeland faction , on the contrary, we left political activities, we do not engage in politics, and on the contrary, we do everything we can to support our defenders, and yulia tymoshenko goes to the front lines more than once, she has been under bombardment and so on, and many others from our team, we have... from our faction , four deputies serve in territorial defense, that is, on combat duty at night, during the day at work in the parliament, so i declare authoritatively and it is true, we do not engage in politics, and moreover, we approach everyone else responsibly during martial law, protests, rallies, political actions are actually prohibited, and it is not just prohibited, it is with the goal is to defeat the enemy, resist this war and preserve after the war all... all democracy, which we will still

use, but it will be when we win and the way we decide it, ukrainians, not the russian federation, you mention, mr. valentin, about corruption, that is... corruption and top agents of the fsb, we see how during the last two months quite actively, and under the article about corruption , people's deputies of ukraine fall, we see how two people's deputies were handed suspicions of treason, they are nestor shufrych and oleksandr dubinsky, from your experience, here is the information that is becoming known now, could it have been... in the security service before, well, for example, before dubinsky was elected a people's deputy of ukraine, or, well, what about friend shufrych, it seems to me, there can be no questions, because he is always there worked in russia, in my opinion, he did not even come, but in relation to corrupt officials, in relation to those

people who hold high positions in power, because a people's deputy is also a high enough position, because a person decides the fate of the state, decides the fate of millions of people, in relation to people collaborators and possible traitors among the deputies, it was the abolition of parliamentary immunity, for which we voted, i voted, that made it possible to clean up the highest legislative body, and it is good that the ukrainian special services have arrived and are acting, the only thing i call for is to quickly conduct open courts, not to close the courts, but to show the whole world who and for what state traitors ended up on the dock, what verdicts should be public... understandable and in the ukrainian language for ukrainian citizens, especially, i repeat, in relation to the top officials of the verkhovna rada , about top corruption, i will say very briefly, i believe, and we have now done 100% in the parliament, strengthened nabu, increased the number and powers and effects and

ability to work of the anti-corruption bureau and it is good that there are results, just as we separated and strengthened ability of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, and i myself voted for all these draft laws, that strengthening the capacity of anti-corruption bodies means strengthening the cleansing of power in ukraine as a whole, corruption cannot exist during a war, by the way, just like during a war, but nevertheless, we are now during martial law, that is why it is possible and necessary to act as harshly as possible, and the third, i consider it the right initiative , the draft law is delayed somewhere, it is not in the parliament yet, but it must be equated to high treason and everything must always be clear to everyone in our to the country, well, maybe not even to treason, but to looting and the determination to commit looting and give the highest, looting on the blood, sergey, agree, this is a shot in the back, in the back of someone, to our defenders, this is

treason, that's for sure, and one more question that i wanted to ask you is regarding the expression of opinion by volodymyr zelskyi. he said that the military who are going to be involved in politics should not be involved in war, i will just quote him to make it more clear to our tv viewers, if a military decided to do politics, that is his right, then he has to go into politics, and then he can't do war, if you lead a war, meaning that tomorrow you will do politics or elections, then in front line words, you are acting like a politician, and not as a military man, i believe that this is a huge policy, but from now on war is also politics , politics is war, that is, is it at all appropriate to throw any military, including yours, political comrades who are in teroboron on the one hand, and on the other

parties work in bodies, in self-government or in the verkhovna rada, that is, is it time to say that if you are fighting, then there is nothing to do simply if someone is not there, the one who holds a weapon and fights, if he does not hold it , then there will be no ukrainian politics, let me say it harshly and clearly , there cannot be any politics during the war, well, there is no politics in this, i would forbid and more clearly tell the british publication and everyone else that during the actions of martial law there is no politicians in ukraine, there are people who can and should protect ukraine from there are people who can and should work in the rear, all others should not interfere, on the contrary, support the armed forces of ukraine, and when i pointed out that four of my colleagues are really in combat at night, two of them are deputy battalion commanders , they do not lead and support party battalions and serve not with

a party mandate, but with specific, paired machine guns at specific points to destroy the shaheds, so i will say simply and clearly, now is not the time for politics and not for politicians. everyone who doesn't know what to do support ukrainian defenders. that's all the politics as of today, only yes, it's martial law, and that's what we really are. we will be strong and we will be able to win. thank you, mr. valentin, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine. friends, we are live on the channel and also on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently following us on youtube and facebook, we are conducting a survey, we are asking you this, have you prepared for power outages , yes no, on youtube everything is quite simple, two options , yes no, and because if you have any opinion about what awaits us in the winter, you can leave it in the comments

under this video, those who are watching us now on live tv, you can see phone numbers on the screen , which you can call if you have prepared for a power outage, call 0800, 211-381, no 0800, 211-382, these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. oleksandr khara, a diplomat, will be in touch with us further expert on foreign and security policy, center for defense strategies. mr. oleksandr, i welcome you, thank you for joining our program. good evening, mr. serhiy, congratulations. at the time when we are talking about europe, about nato, the members of the csto collective security treaty organization gathered today in minsk, there. vladimir putin flew in, oleksandr lukashenko met him, his head was shaking so much that

he was obviously very excited to meet vladimir putin, we have a small video, let's watch it. president of the russian federation, vladimir vladimirov putin. apparently, lukashenko was worried, well, what did he say during this meeting. the west cannot come to terms with the natural course of history, and that is why it is trying with all its might to win over all those who disagree, let's listen to what

lukashenko said. the conflagration of regional conflicts with the use of, including the latest weapons systems, may spread to other countries at any moment. it's no secret that the weapons supplied to kyiv end up on the black market. if western politicians don't... worry about it, then we do we consider the uncontrolled movement of weapons and military equipment as a potential security threat not only to our region, but to all countries of the world. people who are holding weapons and matches from this fire, which lukashenko is talking about, have again gathered in minsk, so what, that is, in your opinion, does the csto consider the possibility of using joint forces with russians much more than in other entities and much more more than

belarusians there or other members of the csto, what they want to say to the world, or what they are they tell the world, absolutely no one cares about it anymore, well, you know, given the age of those tyrants, most of whom have gathered there, it is probably some kind of madness, but it is clear why russia needs such a ... to pretend that it is a leader in the post-soviet space, that it continues to be the guarantor of security, although belarus, we understand, well , actually absorbed, by the russian federation, is not a sovereign, independent state, and this impostor, who is sitting and by and large is a war criminal, as from the point of view of armed aggression against ukraine, so i hope that in the near future, and that he will be arrested by the international criminal court.

since he himself admitted that he had something to do with, shall we say, the theft, the removal of ukrainian children, here, but in any case, this organization is not effective by and large, we saw a representative of kazakhstan there, who is quite, shall we say, cautious relates to this organization for obvious reasons, since there are native russian territories on the territory of... sovereign kazakhstan, and of course, what can be conflict, and this is the reason why there is, that is, on the one hand, he understands that this organization does not give anything, but on the other hand , you should not annoy russia, it cannot... function, because in fact armenia fell out of this orbit, understandable reasons, the russian federation abandoned its ally, did not want to support it in the war with neighboring azerbaijan, and understood why pashinyan does not want to take part in this action, in this one, but continue to use this

platform for propaganda purposes, to repeat, well, all the nonsense , which we are 70 years old heard the birth. the union, which is the most peaceful country, which is constantly attacked by someone, but the soviet union has never attacked anyone , well, plus the accusations are absolutely groundless about the alleged supply of western weapons to some markets there and that belarus is perceived as some kind of threat there, therefore, this is all a delusion, these actions, and of course we perceive this organization as a legitimization, in fact... of russian influence, which is decreasing, and russia is not able to continue, to play such a role, and for sure another aspect, this is the summit of the countries of central asia with china, where in fact symbolically this, let's say, this sphere of influence has passed, heavenly and from the russian federation, because it understood

the incomparable security resources that china and the russian federation have, and most importantly, the economic ones... let's say, levers of influence that china has, and which the russian federation completely lost with this war, with russia of course, with belarus, we have an open question, we still have diplomatic relations with belarus, although this week the verkhovna rada of ukraine introduced new sanctions against of the russian federation and belarus, and the decision of the nsdc prohibits transactions with goods and services from a resident. of the russian federation and belarus, including those conducted with the involvement of residents of other countries. you can, well, give an explanation why we treat belarus in a completely different way than we do russia, why we still maintain diplomatic relations with the country that acted as a co-organizer in this great war. well, you know, i have no logical

explanation for diplomatic relations, at one time, the previous president, and his team reasoned that there is no need to sever diplomatic relations with the russian federation, as if ukraine will not be able to protect the legitimate interests of our citizens and legal entities, although this is absolutely false, since there are two conventions on diplomatic and consular relations, and there is actually a clause on consular relations , which says: the severance of diplomatic relations and psofact, that is, in itself, does not mean the severance of consular relations. that is, a break, if we, say, broke diplomatic relations with belarus now, we would have there remains the possibility of having our consuls who would provide services to our fellow citizens, but here too there is a very important point, since our consuls are not, let's say, wizards, they use the legal system of the host country, and the relevant bodies, as well as

the state government and the judicial system , in order to protect the interests of our fellow citizens or companies, and the fact that belarus is not a legal democratic state, realized that such a tool is actually unavailable to us, and therefore it would be logical for ukraine to turn to a third state, it could be switzerland or some other european country, neutral, which could perform this function, that is, it would be clear, from a political point of view, it makes no sense to keep ukrainian diplomats there, since there is no free media, that is, our diplomats cannot to appeal to the belarusian... community and in order to somehow increase the truth a little in the information space, it is clear that there is a strict counter-intelligence control over them, that is , the kedibists listen to our diplomats and monitor them, that is, they cannot even to meet with someone, so in fact there is no presence there, why there is no break in diplomatic relations now, i don’t

understand, i understand before the time before the large-scale invasion, well, in fact , they created such a very favorable atmosphere for the former last dictator of europe, giving the opportunity to hold the minsk , let's say this, the minsk dialogue, the minsk agreements on the territory of minsk, i belong to belarus, that is , there was some idea that there was some kind of political dialogue going on, and that's why we don't need to be annoying, plus we bought part of the goods from russia the federation, including energy products, that... the same diesel, and actually that's why it was necessary, let's say so, although it is clear that it was absolutely wrong to be dependent on such supplies, it was necessary to look for others. other sources, but the situation changed on february 24 of last year and of course it is not clear why we have this relationship. another issue is that we cannot

take any drastic steps in relation to minsk, i am not talking about diplomatic ones, but more brutal ones, given that our forces, let's say, almost on the front line is quite long, and of course, stretching it and creating an additional line on... on the border with belarus, well, it would be foolish, but these are different things, diplomacy or formal relations, and actually some operations, on the territory of belarus or on the territory of belarus, but we have to be ready for that, because no one guarantees that this old moron, who is not the president of belarus from the point of view of democratic procedures, because we saw how hundreds of thousands of belarusians took to the streets, protested against actually adjusted elections, and of course the whole world, let's say so, perceives, at least the democratic part of it perceives another person as the head of the state, who

is now in exile, then of course we should also treat them that way, that is, we should support those healthy the forces that advocate a change from a democratic system to a demo-electric one in belarus, which usually support ukraine in our fight against tyrants. both russian and belarusian, i.e. preparing for a possible, let's say, opening, friend of the front, if you want to say we need it, but it is definitely not necessary to provoke it at the moment, and that is precisely why we should expect the possibility of belarus entering this war as an ally, as an allied state, a component of the russian federation, of course, that is necessary, and it is definitely necessary to provoke it. no, that is why the diplomatic one can be broken, but not escalate into what is called hard security, that is, from the point of view of the actions of our armed forces. a few days ago,

mr. oleksandr, in an interview with the sun, zelensky said that the next month will be the most difficult in terms of support of ukraine and in the united states of america and added that today ukraine is at the center of global risks of the third world war. i will quote the president. russia will press until the united states of america and china together say very, very seriously to withdraw from the territory, it does not mean the occupied, europe cannot be left alone with this, russia is not afraid of it, they still do not feel that the world is completely against them, now they are preparing in the balkans, taking new steps, preparing people, and they will not stop, their idea is to light new fires conflicts, do you think we should expect that, as zelensky says, the united states of america and china. they will very, very seriously tell russia to withdraw from the occupied territories from ukraine, if it is possible, then in what perspective? well, i

am skeptical that china will change its position on ukraine and stop supporting its junior partner, the russian federation. on paper and what was declared, actually by chinese diplomacy last year, what they see is that a ceasefire is necessary, and then the beginning of some diplomatic process there, well we we understand that this is delusional and putin has never said about any readiness to end this war. he understands that he has enough resources, he can generate resources to wage such a war of such intensity as we see today, and of course what he expects is a decrease or loss of ukraine's support from our key partners, above all of course. to the united states, that is, in november next year, it may happen that trump comes, no one knows what he will do, maybe trump will decide, because you know,

he is a stable genius, as he himself called himself, maybe he will decide to give more help to ukraine and show the strength and leadership of the united states, well, maybe , so, you know, let's say, behave, he is, well, a vain person, but he can theoretically decide so, that i can resolve this conflict, and i can re... the russian federation , i am constantly accused that i was somehow recruited there by the russian special services, and i will give ukraine everything possible, this can also happen, of course, we cannot do that to hope since trump is not a predictable person, but it may be that he will not stop such assistance , or he will say, let's help less, let the europeans take it upon themselves, since this is a european region, then let them pay for their security and assistance to ukraine, this option it can also be understandable, then putin will have more, let's say, opportunities. next, we see a change in the political situation, with the current elections in the netherlands, slovakia, of course. is

the tryanon horse of the russian federation china in the european union nato orban remains, perhaps under the influence of events in the middle east, as well as the reaction of the left forces in europe, i mean, support not only for palestine, but very often for hamas itself, accusing israel of allegedly committing genocide against the palestinians, of course that it is that three can become a trigger for electing far-right politicians who are against migrants, against multiculturalism as a concept, and for greater, let's say, sovereignty of states, so of course that putin does not make any sense, there somehow make concessions, and china to prop up putin, as this would mean that the ally would lose and that the europeans and americans would then have the resources

to counter china. region, well, actually, we did not see any breakthrough during the xi jinping-biden summit, that is, they actually agreed to manage this, shall we say, not very good relations that have developed, lately since last year, meaning the deterioration in communication with the visit of mrs. pilosi, then speaker of the house of representatives, to taiwan, but such relations, they have been deteriorating since trump there were economic warriors, now there is strategic opposition and confrontation, and it will not decrease, it will rather just be more controlled. i really liked the last, literal thesis about the united states, so the way mr. biden reacted to the question of whether he is a tyrant dictator, he said yes, because he heads the communist system,

that was his answer. to china's proposal that for china, the united states of the world is enough to, well, prosper, but it was china's proposal to divide the world, that is, to become the second pole, and have certain spheres of influence, and the united states has given up on this , that is, the united states cannot follow the model of the 20th century, which led to conflicts, because it bases its policy on values, not on spheres of influence, so of course, the rapprochement there will not be and will not be a common position. china , the united states, and now in the near future, i think, will vote in the house of representatives to help ukraine, and at least for part of this next year we will have enough resources to continue to release our own territory, of course uncertainty will remain further, we will see how willing, let's say, the biden administration is to listen to what happened, it was said in general zaluzhnov's article

that we need a qualitative advantage over the russians and we need to generally choose, let's say, the ukrainian side, that ukraine must win, and not just not lose in this war, and everything will depend on this, on such political strategic decisions, first of all in washington, but also in european capitals, and not on china's wishes, so somehow end this conflict. thank you mr. oleksandr, it was oleksandr khara, a diplomat, friends, we are working live on the tv channel. as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, today we are conducting a survey, we are asking you about whether you have prepared for power outages, call and vote, in the second part of the program we will summarize the results of this vote, if you have prepared, 0800 211-381, if not, well, 0.800 211-382, in the second half of the program

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