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day. well, yuriy shigogol, ex-head of the state intelligence service. the case is loud, not the first, but rather unexpectedly, that's how it appeared. please tell us what this shows us, yes, to what extent, maybe not sick, but such, and not completely healthy is not that our society, and this top, which has access to both information and power. and to many possibilities? well, look, nothing new is happening, there are people who want to heat up the war, including, we must understand that, corruption exists in all countries, the question is how effectively the law enforcement order works to prevent corruption, and of course, that this is a question of the inevitability of punishment, especially when it comes to specific... if

it is about specific cases, the situation with the state connection, it is also interesting because they are in fact, they were given a large budget, a large budget for the production of drones, and here the question is how effectively these funds are used, if i am not mistaken, this year they were given approximately 20 billion, next year they are given 40 billion, and these are huge funds , that is, it is actually 1 billion dollars, that is, here ... how effectively they use this resource so that after all we have drones, and not money lost somewhere, i hope that nobu will see this matter through and it will not be like with mr. zlachevsky, who was actually released when he was released, when he was there, as he said, as they later said that in fact, he gave to the army, there somewhere around 10% of the bribe, and in fact.

he was released, mr. taras, recently, well, maybe some time has already passed, but still there was such a very loud article in time about zelensky, and there was a phrase, in particular, about the fact that zelensky seems to say that there should be no bribes, corruption and so on, sit, work, and here a little time passes, another noisy matter, they ignore the fact that it would be appropriate to restrain yourself a little now, or what? no, well, there is a desire, someone has a desire for everything to heat up in the war, it has always been like that all the time, and in our country it is no exception , we have, of course, everything is hypertrophied, including the fact that, unfortunately, resources are taken, which then disappear to an unknown place, and this is of course a problem, because it it's not just a game anymore, but people's lives, it applies not only to all these issues, it also applies to this. an issue still

unresolved that we have often discussed on your channel, including the taxation of defense procurement companies two weeks ago a meeting has already been held in the ministry of defense, a meeting with the weapons manufacturers, who have already written a resolution, what it should be, so in order to avoid all these contradictions that existed, ah, the lady known to everyone there... salayeva, about whom we often also mentioned that, too, she showed her version of the resolution, after a meeting with the manufacturers as well, and, judging by everything, it can be resolved quite quickly, that is, everyone is ready in principle, no one is ready to resist this, well, at least the ministry economy still wrote about this about which, as a result of the contradictions of the resolutions stamped by mr. shmegal, and mr. shmegal does not and does not move, he

is fine, nothing is happening in the region, it has been two weeks, there is still no solution to this issue, until now it is not clear what to do with this okroborprom, which... one in turn tells that he is already making weapons there, that we have been hearing this tale for a year and a half, at first mr. bgusev lied to the nation to the president, and now new tales are beginning that it is in reality exists, and ukroborprom v in its current form, it is ineffective, i repeat, i will repeat, the constituent parts of okoroborprom, such as kbeluch, antonov, malysheva and other enterprises, do not need separate instructions from people who do not understand production and the management of production processes, which are this superstructure over these production enterprises and so on, and what eats up the resource, about 500, from 500 to a billion hryvnias goes only to the maintenance of these various people, all kinds

of geese, milavans, smitans, who do not know how to manage anything at all, give this karastalovo's resource is top notch, he knows how to manage, how to scale production, and so on. other enterprises, so we must look internally at what is still unfinished and demand, including from the authorities, that it be done, and with regard to corruption, as i told you, this is the work of law enforcement agencies, law enforcement agencies and those who cannot avoid punishment, and i i look at the judgments made, including on corruption issues, by our dear anti-corruption vertical, i generally have questions about what they do, here i am i mentioned from the case of kolya zlochevsky, when instead of imprisoning and confiscating somewhere a billion dollars of property in ukraine alone, he was actually released, the case was classified, moreover, now this scheme is being repeated in the case of the high-profile knyazev case, yes, well, first of all, there is no one there

the judge, to whom, according to the version of the investigation, he distributed money, we see that nothing happens, no one arrests anything, here is a question and there is a white shirt there, yes, if you do so, you behave and so on, there is like a lawyer, like they were forced to give some testimony there, as if there was a deal with the investigation again, and again it was classified, what is it about, whether there was a case in the prince's case at all, or not, or it simply did not exist, someone made something up there, and many other things, if according to zlochenskyi they understood that there was a bribe, here it is, there are a lot of questions regarding the work of law enforcement agencies, but without the work of... law enforcement agencies, no one, well, i will continue to collect bribes, well , this is an axiom, well, the continuation of this whole story, we can now see odarchenko's servant a little ceased to exist, and his membership was suspended, the servant of the people faction suspended his

membership, and likewise another accusation, suspicion of bribery, was announced to a top official, there is no official name, but there the media is writing about labazy. serhiy from the group for the future, it's good that our relevant bodies are working this way now, because you guessed that this is all a matter of law enforcement agencies, or somewhere there they also clean up those who may not have agreed somewhere or something, well, let's see how it ends , because again, the anti-corruption authorities like to drain me immediately, there were various auditions and so on, well, from that audition , what i heard personally, it became clear that mr. odarchenko was such a hidden separ who said that kharkiv would be surrendered,

crimea would be surrendered, donbas we need a nafig and so on, but this is already the sbu's business, more so because they do it there, they catch collaborators, they plant adjustments. and so on, but with regard to other issues, i still have a question about whether there was a bribe, because for now, well, the question is open, well, at least i did not hear and i will not be surprised what this case is about will not end, and a few more similar moments, perhaps it is not about bribery, corruption, but something that can greatly shake the domestic political situation in the country, greens. told about what, moreover, he said in an interview, not to our publications, but to a british tabloid, that generals should not, those who fight, those who lead the army, should not interfere in any political moments, please explain, comment on what this should

mean, said so loudly to the whole world, well, let's see what it will be pour out, at least we see that zulazhny...zulazhny is now, well , he was present at the meeting there in ramstein, apparently it is about the army not being involved in politics, although the army is actually already a unit. of the political process, we must understand that, the poles are already the center of political influence, and you think that this confrontation between kyiv, between the banking sector and those people who understand and manage the front, can continue, or can the banking sector, for example, really be afraid of influence the same general zaluzhnyi, come on. you know no to exaggerate it, because

in a democratic society, in a democratic society, disputes, especially during war, well, this is more the norm than the exception, after all, we are in russia, where there is no room for discussions, there can be different points of view, i read there are the memoirs of the same churchill, patan, there is a good book out , matthew, written by the author of the war that must be won, there are also constant disputes between churchill, montgomery, roosevelt, makarzy and other generals and so on, regarding how it should be built , what to do and what not to do it has to be done, so, well, i hope that it will end at the level of controversy, i am sure that there are different points of view, and the diligent will still remain the commander-in-chief, well , the main ... well, who will lead the troops, because he is trusted

, first of all the military, and regarding the analysis of military issues, nevertheless, i believe that the military should first of all give an assessment, and not politicians, including, because the military is not just training, it is a craft, it has to be practically passed, actually from each each... link, and mr. zaluzhnyi has such experience, and like many generals in the general staff, so i think that in the majority, so here is a question for the military, how satisfied are they with what is happening, judging by the fact that what i hear, what we see, there is trust in the hard worker, and this is a high indicator of the fact that, after all , there are no questions about him primarily among university students, and politicians, politicians in this case should pay attention to this opinion . thank you, mr. taras, taras zagorodny, a political technologist,

analyzed what is happening now in authorities, corruption scandals, and so on, we hope, just like mr. taras, that all this will remain within the limits of some such low-profile disputes, because in fact, the most important thing now is unity in the army and unity for our sake. victory, because the information from foreign intelligence is very , in fact, sad and so dramatic, they write that the kremlin has begun preparations for a potential future aggression, also against moldova and the baltic countries, this information is often heard that one of the next victims of russia, if ukraine her and together with ukraine, the west will not stop russia , it may be one of the baltic countries, so the fact that they are preparing, setting up some defense structures there and blocking their borders with

russia is a very wise and correct decision at the moment. artur michno, co-founder of taceo workua is in touch with us. good afternoon, mr. arthur, in ukraine, er, a completely new thing, and something so unusual, that we are not used to, that we have not seen before, maybe it existed in the world, but we did not have it, the ministry of defense is expanding the recruiting project to of the armed forces of ukraine, in what way, the site has a workkuua page and there you can now find vacancies not only for some kind of seller, driver, director, manager or someone else, but you can also find vacancies for the military, please tell me are such ads already in demand?

thanks for the question, well, let's start with the fact that workua is certainly much more than a page or a site on the internet, it is the largest employment site in ukraine, which is 17 years old, and which is visited every day approximately 450-500,000 people, and at the same time during this time we have also become the most famous...' site from the employers' side, approximately 40,000 companies work with us, why i am talking about these numbers, because it is very important that such things cannot be created simply from scratch, and in fact , the platform that we offered for the armed forces, by signing a memorandum with the ministry of defense, by starting cooperation with azov, we gave our military the opportunity to gain access to a simply huge audience of people. why is it important, it's important because the military, yes

just like any company, it needs high-quality, professional specialists, and it is interesting that about two-thirds of any unit consists not only of military specialties, but of ordinary civilian specialties, such as a mechanic, a diesel operator, a gas welder, a construction worker, even a cook and or a clerk, these are all necessary specialties in order for any unit to be effective in general, and it was with such a request that we were initially approached: the azov regiment approached us and we worked with them for a month on a method, methodology, how it can be built, and then there was, then a memorandum was signed with the ministry of defense, and now a model is being developed where each unit of the armed forces will be able

to find specialists through direct recruitment with the help of work. of course, we are talking about first of all... this is not about military specialties, although in the experience of azov, we saw that even in the position of gunners, in the position of a tank driver , it was also possible to find people with the help of workua, and it is very important to say that it was possible to find precisely motivated people who want to serve in such a way position, in that particular division , and it's very important in comparison to the conventional methods of collection that have been... and applied to this, do you have the ability, do you track where these visitors are from, what regions, or maybe some do you have other characteristics that are interested in vacancies in this case azov, and look, in fact, from all regions of ukraine, if we talk again about website traffic, this is the representation of the entire

ukraine, and just as people are looking for ordinary work in ordinary companies , so are we ba... we also see interest in military and non-military specialties in azov and in other already published vacancies from other units, we do not see any selectivity or otherness in a relatively standard period. ugh, how does this mechanism work, so a person sees a vacancy, he is interested in this vacancy, a person discovers that the vacancy is not from some classic employer, but, let's say, from azov, and what happens then, is the signing of the contract, or is it bypassing the tsc, how it's all ongoing, and yes, i'll be happy to answer, because it is probably the most important question, understanding what happens next, then the process is very similar to the standard process of employment

in any company, after a person has found a vacancy and sent his... resume or simply called the indicated phone number, he first everything is connected by a specialist who is responsible for finding and, inviting, a new soldier, and there is a regular interview, why is it important, because just like for a company, just like for a military unit very it is important to find out that the specialist really meets the criteria by which you want to find a person, he is also aware of what his work will consist of, really has experience in such work, that is, in fact, the task of this interview is to find out whether not only the person's desire to serve and join, and whether his specialty and already gained experience really meet

the criteria that the military unit wants to set. if... answers, then after the interview the person will receive a referral to the tsc, and at this moment she is already leaving with this referral to the assembly center, but the referral allows her, after going through the standard procedures that mobilization involves, to get not by random distribution, but to get to the exact unit that gave this referral, or is this such a check, an interview, all that you described also involves such a moment , to weed out potential collaborators, well, we understand that there are different ones. there are agents and so on, who can also take advantage of this opportunity to get a job in companies, in a military

company, so large, and then act to their detriment to our people, and of course, it is during this check that it takes place at the level of those procedures that any unit can apply independently, and as i said, then it happens in one way or another in the same way as it happens to any person who undergoes mobilization at the level of state procedures, that is, in fact , a double check takes place here, and it is definitely not worse than any that exists now, when a person is accepted into the army. ugh, do you already have any first results, first results, how long has it been since the introduction of this initiative, how many people were interested in those vacancies that were managed to be employed, or at least this employment process is already underway, and look, in terms of quantitative indicators, it is still in, well, maybe, i don’t know, not not in

military secrecy, but for sure data that we can't and probably shouldn't divulge , because it can be used somehow, here, what about how many people are interested and how many people sent their resumes from or called as people who are interested to join, you know, it was much more than we expected, we were talking about tens of thousands of people who were ready to join the service in azov, and this was simply extremely impressive to the leadership of azov, and when we again communicated with the ministry of defense, they showed that the possibility of direct recruitment, it is really extremely effective, because in addition to the fact that we will get people who are really ready to serve and do not need to look for them, well, if, you know, they sometimes say, look on the streets, yes, on the contrary, they are

much more motivated and they want, except of this, we see that it allows you to attract specialized specialists, and it is probably even more important, not just to find a person, but to find a person who wants and can work on his own, according to his specialty, because he will simply be much more effective than a random person on any position. and can you at least voice the information, what is the most, what vacancies are most interested in, what are most often searched for? ah, you know, well , the most common, again , professions, for example, driver, yes, there azov searched with categories, and of course there are many drivers and including those who were ready to join, of course, such positions as, for example, the gunner of the tank, they had, or the gunner, they had the least attendance and interest, ordinary professions, as a mechanic, as a builder, quite

the response was high, and again, there is an understanding here that there is also a salary component, now in the army a person can receive from 25 to 125,000, if, for example, during the period of service he is in a combat zone. and this is quite a large salary compared to what the same people can get for the same jobs positions, especially, for example, if they are in the front-line regions, that is, in fact, at this moment, they are in a danger zone quite strongly compared to what happens in military units, but the salary level is much lower, that is why, i think that for for many people this is including an opportunity for their work. and for the risks they take, to receive a much more decent salary. thank you, artur mikhno, the co-founder of tseo work was with us, on this i also say goodbye, peaceful, safe to you

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