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[000:00:00;00] that they have not read a single book, then to discover how the completely private economy of the united states during the second world war provided a million-strong army with the right amount of weapons and in addition provided a huge number of allies, including the soviet union, and they were either weak or did not read books when they say such things, the ministry of defense also reports, sorry, i will quote them a lot, because they are starting to do more... about what they are doing, i am interested in your professional opinion, since the information itself is not enough to understand, okay is it bad, is it enough or not enough, so the ministry of defense plans to transfer the armed forces to ukrainian production, we are talking about body armor, helmets, tactical equipment, clothes and food for the armed forces, entrepreneurs are ready to fully provide the physical needs
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of the armed forces with quality goods, support. .. of the minister of defense dmytro klymenkov, says that in the 24th year, the provision of clothing, food, fuel and lubricants, body armor, helmets and tactical equipment to the armed forces of the soviet union will be handled by a newly created enterprise of the ministry of defense, a procurement agency in defense sector. what we saw during the two years of the war, when there were tenders, which then forced the leadership of the ministry of defense... to resign, but at least a soft resignation, but procurement, food, equipment, there were always some questions about it , why do you think there is no order in the ministry of defense during the war, and why the ministry of defense cannot carry out normal purchases and properly build all logistics so that all citizens
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of ukraine understand that they do not make money from this, because it is generally a matter of life and death , when people are not given something at the front, everything is very simple, impunity breeds irresponsibility, irresponsibility breeds chaos, when there are no free branches on the trees around the ministry of defense on which to hang those who stole people's money during the war, then order in this the country will not exist, this is the first, the second. as for direct purchases and production at the expense of ukrainian manufacturers, this is all great and it is a good idea and it has been for a long time, but there is one problem, any new managers who come to the ministry of defense tells good things, they get it at the exit, excuse me, always a jerk, and you only mentioned tangible property and products, for some reason you did not mention the billions
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of stolen money on... the purchase of artillery shells, mortar mines, anti-tank, anti-personnel mines, on procurement weapons, and as for our manufacturers directly, when the manufacturers will have a firm guarantee at the state level that they will not be abandoned, will not be abandoned from the price policy, that the order they receive will continue and will not be canceled, because very often are simple things that our manufacturers throw away, if... the manufacturer understands that he will have an order for a year, for two, for three, for four, and the system will be understood, then he will find investors, he will find the money that directly helped him to build up his capacity, we need to give a clear guarantee for our producers and support, and then we can give up a lot of things that we, that we spend money on, as far as
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our western sponsors are concerned. today the supreme commander-in-chief's rate and speech took place it was about mobilization, demobilization and territorial recruitment centers, what zelenskyy said, i will quote him now, and so that we understand what the president of ukraine is saying. a significant part of today's meeting was devoted to a complex of issues regarding which our soldiers and the whole society expect justice. answers, it concerns mobilization, remobilization, rotation in the armed forces of ukraine, questions about conscripts who were called up for service before the start of a full-scale invasion, of course, special attention was paid to the situation with work military medical commissions and military personnel, what the soldiers say, what the teams say about them, must be decided , today, that before this there were the first reports, the head of the committee zaluzhnyi, the minister of defense umerov, the minister of internal affairs klymenko,
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the minister of security lyashko, the chief general staff of shaptala, i expect a more meaningful treatment of each of these issues by the government and the military and specific proposals regarding state decisions, well, the main issue is mobilization and demobilization, because those people who have been at the front for two years, and some more, because they were drafted into the army and mobilized earlier, eh, how do you think, in what way do you think it should be resolved, and again, why are all these decisions so late, why is there no clarity for those who holds a weapon at the front, there is no clarity as to who should serve and return from the front, well, you need to understand clearly, firstly, the president does not speak, the president reads what was written to him, this is the first, second, it is necessary to understand that there can be no question of any demobilization during the war, because
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demobilization ends accordingly when the state of war ends, we don't have a state of war, we have martial law, the next question, well, you know, it's just a play on words, no more, no less, we don't have enough people, we don't have systematic training at the level of the state of people to replenish our combat units, and we are told about demobilization , it is just a distraction of society, no more , no less, the government engages in empty chatter, and no more, and i do not see anything else, in the absence of strategic communications and in the absence of a single direction of informational psychological operations, there will be no point, and mr. general, i cannot ask you about what zelensky said in an interview with the british tabloid the sun, he said that the military, which is going engage in politics, you should not engage in war, i will quote zelensky again, that’s for sure, he himself already said, if a military
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man decides to engage in politics, it is his right, then he must go into politics, and then he cannot engage in war, if you manage war, meaning that tomorrow you will be engaged in politics or elections, then in words and on the front line you are a politician and not a military man, i think this is a huge mistake, but i have a simple enough question, when the president talks about politics and about the military, it is clear that without the military who are currently at the front, well, no politics at all, no politics at all can be talked about, or do you think this passage, it referred to specific military officials, military, military commanders, whom zelensky perceives ... competitors there in some political matter, struggle, although not a single high-ranking official, military official said that he is engaged in politics, whether he wants to be president, whether he wants to be prime minister, whether he wants to take power in
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the country, well, just and the question is, who was panlensky talking about, in general , well, it’s funny, they are talking, i don’t see, and about which politician at this stage, things are not clear at all, that the hard worker is speaking, we only have one military man there, an active military man speaks constantly on all channels and tells his predictions, which have never come true, and you know, this surname is wonderful , and well, at certain moments it causes surprise, to put it mildly, as far as the bad guy is concerned, it 's generally them, i mean the leadership of ukraine. worried that after the end of the war, zaluzhny could become a powerful isenhower, as it was immediately at the end of the world in the united states, but let 's first understand whether we have an end to the war, and pay attention, the president always
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talks about peace, but peace without victory can not to be, meritocracy always talks about victory, that's another difference, politicians tell the military that it is not necessary to engage in politics, humiliating the military in many cases... and pushing them to engage in politics, let the military fight, and they will absolutely not engage in politics this policy, therefore, information manipulation, accusations of those who do not engage in this with the aim of, you know, creating, perceiving that, well , our leadership, the civilian army , the civilian leadership of that rating, up to that rating, that our military has, and precisely in the military, who are clearly fighting, are very often, you know, under pressure from the political leadership to make certain decisions, and to be honest, it is the civilian leadership in our country, especially opa,
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that pushes the military to go into politics, let them fight, don't climb and do not envy their rating and everything will be fine, let the best civilians deal with the economy, let them deal with the preparation of the territory. let them deal with the training of the population and then everything will be fine. thank you, mr. general, for taking part in our program, it was serhiy kryvonos, major general of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, first deputy commander of the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine. friends, we are live on tv channel as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on these platforms, please like this video so that it can be trended on youtube and facebook , and vote in our survey, because today we are asking you about the following: can ukraine make compromises with russia in order to end the war, yes no, everything is quite on youtube... just, if you have your opinion, please leave
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a comment under this video, if you watch us on tv, you can take your smartphone and call the number, if you think that ukraine can go on compromises with russia to end the war, 0800 211-381, no, 0, 800-21-382. i want to say one more thing, friends, on november 25 in lviv there will be a presentation of my book battle for kyiv, it will be in the bookstore at 7 svobody avenue. anyone who wants to chat and come to the presentation, please come, it is in the center of lviv, i will be waiting for you all, this is what this book looks like, i will be happy to answer all your questions, since this book is written about heroes, about those people who found themselves in the center of the war, precisely during the offensive russians from the north. and the east of ukraine to the ukrainian capital. well
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, then we have volodymyr tsybulko, political scientist, people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, in contact. mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. congratulations, mr. serhiy, i think i am also the hero of this one books, you, you too are this hero, the hero in this book, so i invite you to the presentation too. well, mr. volodymyr, let's start with today's news, which was published by the washington post, that the russians and the chinese are trying to build, or are discussing the construction of a russia-crimea tunnel, they, the russians are afraid that the ukrainian defense forces will collapse the crimean bridge, they have decided to build this tunnel along the bottom of the kerch strait, and it seems to me that the width of kerch, the kerch
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strait, is up to 15 km there, and how to make an open channel. such such, such, such a sea route from the taman peninsula to kerch, what do you think, considering the fact that the washington post writes this, well, obviously, the data of this publication is quite solid and they are responsible for what they write, as far as possible the implementation of this project, well, as far as i understand, the washington post refers to the data of some registry where such a contractual structure was essentially formed, the company that should build this, from the chinese side, there is called the company that is engaged in construction railways, railway complexes, and it is not excluded that this could happen, it seems to me that such an attack was made precisely in
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view of the fact that, suddenly, cooperation between china and the united states began to be planned, and it was necessary to remind the russians that they that the bipolars of such a bi-bipolar world between china and the usa will not work, that it is necessary to make a triangle with russia and the like, well, these are such, by the way, obsessive russian ideas that are constantly mulling over, but...' if look at the economic potentials of russia and china, then russia may not be a corner of a triangle, it may only be a shoelace, sitzenpinya and nothing more. as for the appearance of some chinese structure, well, as a contractor, there are several factors here, if china does not , well, the yaktai authorities will in no way stop
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chinese business from working in the occupied territories, and this is, in fact, legally the territory of crimea belongs to ukraine, that is, according to international law the right to interfere in the work on ukrainian territory without the permission of the ukrainian governing bodies is simply occupation. to put it mildly, that is why the chinese company, which appears as a partner in this project, may be subject to heavy sanctions, and this is real, by the way, it spoils... the prospects of the chinese authorities themselves to somehow reach a more predictable relationship with the united states, since the crisis , in which it is, well, the economic crisis that china is in, it cannot be overcome, its consequences
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are impossible without access to the american credit market, the american technology market and to... most importantly , the american consumer market, so that the chinese can to sell this wide range of needs and further to the united states. let me remind you that the negative, negative trade balance of the usa with china is, in my opinion, 350 billion. well, by the way, not about this company and not about this tunnel, said the minister of foreign affairs of france catherine colonna, she said that china should... prevent his companies from supporting the russian army, let's hear what she said. we call on china to continue working under the ukrainian peace plan, and we sincerely hope that the chinese authorities will not allow any organization with directly or indirectly supported
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russia's military efforts in ukraine. you see, they are already starting to refer to the ukrainian peace plan in europe, although we know that on february 24, 2023, china formulated 12 points there regarding, as they say, the crisis in ukraine, although in fact, well, we see how the chinese are trying play all over the field, the world field and xi jinping meets with biden, biden calls xi jinping a dictator in public, xi jinping is offended, the ministry of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china says that it cannot be done, the russians say that they are friends china, until china and the united states of america have become , as beijing wants, the two forces that will divide the spheres of influence in the world, can we expect any moves by china towards russia, so that russia
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simply withdraws from of our territory, the geti took off, well, the speed of recovery of the economy generally depends on this. because already now , even in the current year, there is a very serious outflow of investment capital from the territory of china, and the most important thing is that part of this capital is flowing out to india, directly a competitor of china, of course, so far the economy of india is probably 2.5 times, well , there 2.5 an atom is almost three times smaller than the chinese one, but in general the dynamics from india and this alternative to the chinese project, one belt, one road, project, transport corridor from india to the european union, creates such circumstances that, in principle, china can very quickly lose the status
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of the world's second economy, although it is not the world's second economy, because in reality the world's second economy, even the world's first economy, is the economy of the european union as a whole, and then united states, simply, and the consumer market, by the way, the consumer market of the european union now occupies the first place in trade with china, that is, it is the number one sales market for chinese products, and china can very quickly move from this position, if it does not reckon with the position of the same france or not. because the separate trade of france and germany with china, it is very fundamentally different, because it is an opportunity to receive technologies, of the highest order, actually from germany and from france, in particular, the chinese automobile industry has grown
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in many respects, due to its own cooperation with china, oh, china with germany, first of all, secondly with france. mr. volodymyr, let's return to ukraine and to what is happening in ukraine, today the supreme commander-in-chief's rate was held, and as zelenskyi says, it was important and difficult, because it was about mobilization, about demobilization, let's listen to what zelenskyi said, a significant part of the meeting today was devoted to a complex of those questions, regarding which... our soldiers and the whole society expect fair answers, it concerns mobilization and demobilization, rotation in the armed forces of ukraine. question. regarding conscripts who were called up for service before the start of a full-scale invasion.
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of course, special attention was paid to the situation with the work of the vlk and military committees. what the cadets are talking about, what the teams are talking about, must, must be resolved. today , in this regard, there were the first reports by chief commissar zaluzhnyi, and minister of defense umerov, minister of internal affairs klymenko, minister of health lyashko, chief of the general staff shaptala, i expect a more meaningful processing of each of these issues, both by the government and the military, and specific proposals regarding state decisions, well, while zelensky was recording the video, and we were listening to it, danilov went on the air of ukrainian radio and said that the prisoners who served the required term were demoted. i will quote the secretary of the national security and defense council. today, a meeting of the supreme commander-in-chief was held, and
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a lot of attention was paid to this issue, so that we fairly deal with the issue of adding to our army the people we need for the country's defense capability. as for the mobilization of people who have completed military service, the president asked and the military agreed that these people will be demobilized in the near future, this process will take place and we understand how many there are - said danilov. i spoke in front of you, mr. volodymyr, with a crooked nose, he says: in general , there is no need to talk about demobilization as long as there is martial law in ukraine, because he, as a military man, says that there is no need to do such a thing, - yours, but in this situation, where there is that limit of justice and necessity
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when people have served and cannot return from the army, and some people have not yet gotten there, well, in general , to be honest, the actions of a single marathon and, this is corruption in power, it quite significantly turned people against, well, let's say, against their readiness , sacrifice life. for the sake of the country, at a time when the troops are fighting, when, well, there are losses, such, someone in power makes quite a good living, and the government itself does not react very well to it, that is, there is no justice in terms of pursuing looters, pursuing, crimes in power itself instead, the government wants people to be ready to sacrifice their lives for the country, first of all it would be necessary to establish more honest work with the military in terms of payment and compensation, because
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a wounded military man is in our hospital and receives uah 600 a month, these are things that should be fix it first of all, you don’t hear anything, look, just in one and a half years of the war, how many times the military payment system changed, how the government constantly tried to save money on the military, we know very well that today many military people simply use their money to buy fuel for cars, repair cars, buy clothes, sometimes food and the like, that is, there is provision, but there are such disproportions, when without the help of volunteers it is difficult for the troops to survive, now no matter how much the government feeds us, these... well, ambitious programs by the drone army, but when you read the reports of the military about the use of drones and its success, for some reason
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the volunteers are always thanked for the drones provided, but where are the drones under the drone army program, for example, and it seems to me that after all, the state in relations with the military should be based on clear, honest principles, and not on the kind of internecine fighting that happens very often. well, this is the profiteering of the military commissions, further, very often wounded soldiers who end up in the hospital, then to all these medical commissions, fall into such a system of humiliation and contempt that they begin to curse everything and everyone, that is, a person who sacrificed himself for the sake of independence of the country should feel, well , when leaving, for example, on retirement, in connection with an injury, especially, feel
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respected and needed, and not abandoned, when only relatives should collect medicine to maintain the health of the former fighter. first of all, this is a war - it is about justice, and when it comes to the alleged injustice towards those who are not yet in the army and injustice towards those who have been in the army for too long, that there is no rotation, here you just need to build honest principles, because otherwise, when each... territory has its own form of encouragement, so to speak , how many people will join the army, how many will be mobilized, regardless of the level the economy of these territories, very often, that is, the quality of the economy of the territory directly depends on the number of people mobilized from this or that territory, but the pddfo was taken away, and
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look, in those cities where there are many soldiers, there are many pro... now a lot soldiers from the war are starting to come back wounded, they need quality treatment, money from the pdf in local self-government bodies goes to receive schools, hospitals, and hospitals, and we see that the more people are fighting, the more pdf is taken from them for the central needs of the central government authorities, people are returning the wounded go to the hospital, and the quality of these hospitals is such that you have to pay for treatment at your own expense, is this fair , well, there is a lot of injustice, you are absolutely correct, mr. volodymyr, especially when they start accusing top officials of corruption, in particular the state special connection and that they buy some kind of software and use it to burn uah 62 million just on the spot, then the question arises, what kind of
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money is this, if this is money that was taken from local budgets. and they say that they are going to war, but it turns out that they are not war, but simply for the development of these, mr. serhiy, with the state special service with the goldfinch, this is an even more shameful story, because it was the state special service that delayed the certification of the latest software, and the troops use windows 7, windows 10, which are simply already morally so outdated, that this is just a disaster, and where does this person come from. 70 million of money, there are many questions, of course, we will not find answers to all questions. on this, mr. volodymyr, we put an end to it, i will once again remind our audience that the presentation will take place tomorrow my book, the battle for kyiv, one of the heroes of my book, you see, volodymyr tsibulko, who survived the occupation near kyiv,
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i also wrote about him, this presentation will take place in lviv on svobody avenue. seven, this is a bookstore, come, let's chat, let's talk about this book, about the heroes and about what happened in february, march 22 of the year near kyiv, friends, i also remind you that we are conducting a survey, we are asking you about this, can ukraine to make compromises with russia for the sake of ending the war, now let's see which ones the results of our telephone survey, i can say that on youtube at this moment 18% said that it is possible to go, 82% that no, in a telephone survey on the tv channel, 15% said that it is possible to make some compromises for the sake of ending the war, 85, no, categorically, well, i will put an end to this in the first part of our program, in 15 minutes we will meet in the same studio, do not switch, we will have the best
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