[000:00:00;00] a journalist of ukraine cannot compare with what sasha dubinsky declared, who simply let the eye of the investigative journalists roll and talked about the fact that his mother likes to use it, because he has cars and it is all written on his mother, well, i am not surprised, if they vote for something like that again, you know, well, they have to, well , let's turn it back and see how many majoritarians passed, or just on... brand, well, take, for example, the obolon district, where maryana bezugla came to us, who just zero at all, well, nobody, so what she is doing it now, simply because she is a people's deputy and, you know, she has an opinion about herself that is off the charts, that is, i don't think that it is somehow related, moreover , you know, i don't have any special expectations that

we will hear something interesting from dubinsky, how do we, by the way...don't we hear anything like that from kolomoisky himself, because it doesn't sound like this investigation will somehow, you know, it will become some kind of explosion so valid, when there will be some debates and something like that will be proven, well, maybe it will drag on, maybe they will be released after some time under house arrest, and then it will drag on again, drag on, the meetings will not start anyway, well, that's it. and so on, until maybe everyone forgets about it, and then the borders will open and suddenly somewhere will disappear, everyone will roll their eyes and say, oh, we didn't know how he managed to leave, but we remember how we left , yes, such persons were also involved in the investigation, and everyone was so flabbergasted, they said, how did this happen, how was he able to leave under which passport, how did his they didn't recognize,

the border guards didn't recognize such a recognizable person, what is it? how did it happen, but somewhere i rather expect this, especially since sasha dubinsky had a romanian passport, so i think that, in principle, he can probably use it. friends, we are working live, and those who are currently watching us on the espresso tv channel and our social networks can vote in our poll, today we ask you about whether ukraine can compromise with russia in order to end the war, yes, no please vote for youtube, it's pretty simple, if you have... any particular opinion , please leave it in the comments below this video, for those of you sitting in front of the tv, pick up your phone and vote if you think a compromise is possible with russia for the sake of ending the war, 0800 211-381, no 0800 211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, and ladies and gentlemen, i want to talk to you about zelensky for export, well, i call it zelensky for

export. because zelenskyy now quite often and, let's say, wanted to say a lot more often than to ukrainian journalists, but this will probably be an exaggeration, because there are only two people to whom he gives interviews, they are natalya mosiychuk and dmitriy kamarov, in principle , it seems to me that none of the ukrainian journalists are more, from the ukrainian side, i will say so , no one communicates or interviews him, an interview on the scoreboard. the british sun came out big this week, where he talked a lot about those soldiers who seem to be involved in politics, that they should not be involved in politics, and the statement that what is possible, what the russian federation wants to remove from power by the end of the 23rd year, already this special operation maidan-3, they have already buzzed

the ears, it seems to me, to everyone, and about the fact that uh, this month will be the most difficult in terms of support for ukraine , the united states of america, well, let's first talk about what kind of communication zelskyi has with the ukrainians, whether it exists at all, whether these communicators are clearly defined, podolyak, leshchenko, someone else there, maximum zhovkva, and these people actually represent the position of the president , why we do not see the president at all. questions and answers, marino, well, first of all, volodymyr zelenskyi over the last few months managed to quarrel even with those media who were quite loyal and friendly to him, let's remember this story with the cover of the magazine, which they wanted it to be so positive, bright and played for zelsky's rating, that he is such an outstanding leader for the second time, but it turned out that

exactly... shuster wrote a lot of such information that the servants of the people and the heads of the bank did not filter and gave him as a friend, whom they had already awarded with the order of merit of the third degree, so it turned out absolutely , you know, amazing, and now, if you analyze what is said there, for example, mishenka padalyak, who is simply the headliner of information policy, will once again remind you that this is a person, and no matter what political project she takes up , everything then turns out to be absolutely disgraceful and his clientele suffers a defeat, his famous clients, for example, were yuriy ivanoshchenko and viktor yanukov. and such a person, who ran for the post of mayor of kyiv, serhii dumchev, so i found a very interesting interview on the radio svoboda, where misha podoliak says directly: well, you know, these were the subjective opinions of those journalists with whom we

worked there, they also meant simon shuster, we will now work differently, and you know, to me, as a person , which is very interested in clans, corporations, media people, how they work , who they are friends with, became very interested in why in recent weeks representatives of the bank began to appear not anywhere, namely on the media resources of the very famous, global media magnate rupert meridock. for example, andriy when yermak went to the united states of america, he went to give an interview to fox news. just a few days ago, the eldest son of rupert murdoch, who serves as the technical director, arrived and they met with zelskyi and brought them there, a number of journalists and even, well, zelenskyi didn’t learn anything, they also gave another journalist from rupert murdoch’s corporation an order for the possibility of a third degree, so they're obviously trying to buy loyalty, but it turns out

it's still a bit moronic, like they say that because this edition of san, it also belongs to rupert murdoch's media corporation and it is such a light publication, a tabloid , what is an edition of san, this is what you opened... a newspaper, on the one hand you will have naked women in bikinis, and on the other on the other hand, there is football news from the english football league, and here is an interview about politics by volodymyr zelenskyi, for me the most disgusting thing was that it appeared on the tenth anniversary of the revolution of dignity, and there zelenskyi managed to fool the maidan residents, the military and declare such a very an ambiguous phrase that sounded like this, i consider it a mistake that in 2014 a lot of military men and military stars went into politics, well, firstly, what right do you have to ban someone from running for office somewhere, and secondly, let's remember that those

the people whom he called the stars and military men of 2014, these were precisely the people who came from the pillars of the revolution of dignity, who later went and signed up for the dobrobat, so i'm sorry, but these people have at least the right to go to the verkhovna rada twice, and you know, that's such a clear comparison, to me it seems that it is best to compare who we elected in the 14th year and in 2019, using the example of the already super-famous and legendary 2017 district in obolon, in 2014, this district was won by andriy biletskyi, who is now in command, is the leader, essentially created from scratch, the third separate third assault brigade, the most combat-capable regiment currently in the ranks of zasu, in 2019 the same voters chose maryana bezuglu, who produces trash, shit, scandals every day and, to the joy of olga skabeeva

, creates fakes about the ukrainian military high-ranking officers of the general staff and so on, so there is an obvious difference, and again , zelensky, you know, once again confirmed in this interview that he has a conflict with valery zalozhny, that he is very confused by the support of... the armed forces of ukraine, which according to all sociology, according to what appears in zma, according to what we sometimes see as journalists and it is unofficial, the only rating that we have is stable and does not fall, it is the rating of the armed forces of ukraine, and to our masters and the young ladies from the bank are very, very confused by this, so why not they are in the first place, and well-deserved ukrainian heroes. thank you, maryna, ulya, i wanted to ask here, we mainly see zelensky in two guises, a person who gives daily messages to the citizens of ukraine, and the second, the second guise is a person who gives interviews or

comments to western media , it is clear that he conducts his policy abroad on behalf of ukraine, well, it is clear that the president of ukraine has to give some messages to the international media, why do you think this communication, which should have been during the war, maybe more with the citizens of ukraine, why is she transferred to the third, fourth, 10th adviser of the office of the president and why does the president of ukraine avoid ukrainian journalists? well, first of all, i don't think that this is connected at all with communication during the war, it's just that everyone somehow forgets that this was the basis of zelensky's media policy in general even during his election before, well, actually for the position of president, you that's what you say, you know, just remember how they formulated their pre-election strategy in general, that they don't communicate with ukrainian journalists,

because they don't need intermediaries, they in general, they believe that journalists are bad in principle, and they will communicate directly with the people, well, in fact, this is such a rather leader concept that the leader has a direct connection with the people, it is unpleasant, they simply imitated putin's communication in this way , i have to tell you, it's just that , honestly, because that's exactly what he was doing, that's all the direct lines with the people and so on, putin doesn't allow it. he also never interviews journalists, he has one journalist who walks next to him and simply records his speech language, that’s all, period, and then it’s direct communication with the people, and that’s exactly what they’ve been monkeying with all this time and nothing really changed during the war, that’s what the whole point is, because they continued to build it that way, that there are direct appeals by zelenskyi

to people and well, in principle, let's be honest, people also like this communication, it cannot be said that it is something that does not find a response, a large part of it likes it, well , in principle, the population likes it, that when people who are daily on the air when it is daily addresses directly, explains what is happening, and probably it is not even that bad, to be honest, it is quite so, but it is such a style, just why is this happening with foreign people now? media, that we see him there even more often, only for one reason, because when zelenskyi was half, well, almost a year, he managed to speak in front of the parliaments, and he built the same direct communication there, well , in fact, that is, his direct speeches in the parliaments, his direct performances somewhere at public events, now he does not have such an opportunity, and here it turned out that the western democratic world communicates through the media

, and that's why he has to give an interview now, because he has no other way to reach a western audience with his messages, so he talks to journalists, why or why these journalists end up writing that they write, well, because they are told so, well, they write exactly what they are told in the president's office , well, that is, how he speaks to them, these are the conclusions they draw, it simply indicates that they are not very good, all this communication...' the team of the president's office does not understand very well the style, the understanding of the western audience and what messages to reach it with, because when yermak appeared on fox news, well, it was pathetic, well, that is, well, he is just a very vague person who cannot speak properly in english, who is not really the highest official in the delegation that went, it was paid attention there, why am i saying this, because in fact in the states they paid attention to who this person is, if there is a deputy prime minister, who

headed the delegation, who speak english perfectly and why is she not speaking, but some kind of person who cannot clearly express an opinion , in whom this opinion is very vague, and who does not at all understand what he wanted to say, that is, he wanted to say, well, that's all that was left, and he just really wanted to get on tv and show his importance , that is, his ego turned out to be a little more than, well, the actual understanding of how it should have been done, because here it is, nothing, nothing like that happened, nothing is normal, thank you, after a short break, friends, we will return to the studio , do not switch, it will be interesting later, there are discounts on pectelvan plush cough syrup, 10% in pharmacies plantain, bam and savings, problems with forehead joints movement, it's unpleasant and painful.

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come at 17:00 at 7 svobody avenue, and today i have three of the best journalists of ukraine as guests, they are olga alen. marina danyliuk, yarmalayeva, bohdan butkevich, we are talking about zelenskyi for export, bohdan, i wanted to ask you, you follow the information policy quite carefully, i read your comments and listen to your comments, by the way, tv viewers can subscribe to marina danyliuk's channel yarmelayev and bohdan butkevich, it is called show-bisyky, please enter it in the search. and find this youtube channel, subscribe to them, i read and hear what you say quite often, in your opinion, how long is this export option ukrainians will like zelenskyi, and is it possible to draw parallels between, for example,

gorbachev, who was once enough, who was once admired very much in the west, then disliked very much in the soviet union, at first. was admired in the soviet union, was not liked in the west, is it possible to draw such parallels , or after all, zelsky in this regard is not, will not repeat the fate of gorbachev and he will have stable, stable support of some nuclear electorate, well, i am herbachova i hardly remember, i just simply remembered, i have on in my yard there was a campashka alkasha, and when they swelled, i still remember the screams. you mentioned karpachev, yes, well, regarding your question, look, of course, there is vladimir oleksandrovich, well, look, you have to understand one important thing, uh, while the war is going on, zelsky's rating is a rating , it is difficult to say where

zelsky’s rating is, and where the rating is, well, not a rating, but i am, well, here is the long-described effect that when the country is in a state of war, then, in principle , the majority support... the government, because the government , it symbolizes itself as a flag, that is, we support our state in the war, well, the president, he is the supreme commander in chief, so we support him, in fact, i am my personal point of view, i cannot tell you that i definitely have proven numbers, i i personally believe that in fact zelsky's rating is somewhere around 25-30%, just as it was right before the great war, that is, everything else is completely situational, situational stories, so i don't think that this rating... will be super higher, as for whether this rating will remain, well, look, here is zelskyi in fact is standing in front of him, well, i didn’t even see him, although it must be understood that he himself got into this situation and completely changed it himself , everything happened the way it happened to him, but he is really in the classic tsuktswang, that is, on the one hand

he understands very well, his team, if this group can be called a team, that every month, as long as the war continues, the chances decrease, and there are no elections, roughly speaking, yes, it decreases the chances of zelensky to get over, because there are more and more problems, because everyone understands everything people get tired, people die, the economy eventually collapses, and so on, and then what to sell to people? and therefore, of course, it would be great to hold elections in order to fix at least this support for the flag in this situation. our partners are demanding elections from us, in fact they started pumping up this issue back in the 22nd year, they just constantly rolled back, because they understood that for various reasons it would not work, on the other hand, they don't understand that holding these elections now is complete trash. uh, well, really, it’s technically almost impossible to do, and the main thing is that they will be accused of being involved in politics, this can even further damage the ratings, that’s how they have tsuktvan,

uh, to be honest, i think that zelensky perfectly understands another thing, that if this war, ah, or a phase of the war, because frankly, i have very little faith in the fact that this war will end, that the whole war will end in the near future, no, it will not end , i am afraid, that this will be just another stage, and unfortunately there will be new ones ahead of us. of this war, as it was in the war of the netherlands in spain , unfortunately, zelensky understands very well that he, his people , have dispersed these public expectations, he already sees a huge setback in these expectations, and therefore he will really drown for the war to a victorious end, because he understands very well that any end to the war in which there is not something that can be sold to the people is not an option, so i think that he, if we are really going to try push for negotiations, then they will try to offer him a certain carrot, i think that this carrot may well be the nato summit in july, at which zelski can, for example, propose

that we be invited to nato, but i will remind you, friends, the invitation to nato - this is not yet joining nato, ask the swedes why, for example , yes, and well, he can then sell the tip in the elections, which he will try to hold as soon as possible, after it takes place, in order to at least somehow stay with authorities, but to be honest, what i will say now is for now that is a completely hypothetical story and it is not clear whether it will be like that, in fact it is so, i am just sketching how it will be, no one can say yet, but i will say only one thing, and this is already to the voters, i am addressing the audience, i in no way i'm not trying to influence your point of view on who to vote for, but i will say only one thing, the lion's share of the problems that ukraine has in domestic politics are due to the fact that ukrainians, to hell with him, that they voted for president zelensky , the problem is that they are in the verkhovna rada. presented a monomajority for the first time in the history of the country, and you all can see for yourself what this has led to, what is the quality of the people there

, every day we discuss some new issue, and most likely the last name, you do not even know, as my colleague viktor shtenchak said, and you, mr. serhiy, and you, ms. olga, i think you know him very well, and marilu , of course, that when i went to independence square 10 years ago, when the revolution of dignity began, yes, i knew 90% of the people, who stood then on the square, and when i look at it now the verkhovna rada, then i... do not know 90% of the deputies, i can only support these words, so friends, please , zelensky himself is not as important as understanding that democracy consists in the fact that you stop hoping that it will come some papik will decide everything for everyone, please, when you vote especially in the parliamentary elections, think about your mother with your head, don't vote for maryan bezgu just because there will be a new one from p, m, what you will like it, well, start thinking with your head, because it will be from your choice depend, 90% of things are decided at the level of a local deputy or a parliamentarian there, and by no means the president, well, this is a very important

understanding, which i hope, gradually, through nightmarish trials, should reach the ukrainians, and i will say the last to zelskyi, sorry, and i will finish, i'll be honest, i really would like to wish him, in fact, despite all the misunderstanding of this person, but it would be very cool if he understood that gorbachev's fate is a good option for him, that is, to become a professor, i don't know. read lectures, books, maybe make some kind of movie, but leave the political life of the country, then he has a chance not to get stuck in history, well, he is already the final question, well, at least to remain a controversial figure in it, if he decides to continue playing in ukrainian politics, well, then i think he will have the fate not even of gorbachev, rather, well, if you already compare with them, well, then it is more likely of yeltsin , who finished, who started as a great liberator-liberator, finished with general hatred and desire, damn it, but when this fucking alkash will go away, well, somewhere like that. thank you, bohdan, ulyu, for

almost a month. for two or three weeks we have been constantly hearing about this whole story with maidan 3, already about internal destabilization, i look this week and the head of the foreign intelligence service oleksandr lytvynenko also wrote about the fact that internal destabilization is being prepared, and that russia is preparing, what russia is preparing, and it is always ready for this, i have no doubts, the only question is that , well, the leadership of ukraine, and the special services of ukraine, they do not say, but what did they do, well, a special operation is being prepared, okay, let's see who is doing this operation, catch these organizers there, russian priests , opzh deputies, give some facts that it really is being prepared, and if it's not just empty statements, then let's

talk about it , who will threaten internal, destabilization, well, i agree with you somewhere, because i do not see any... from such a possibility, well, that is, the russians are constantly doing something, yes, obviously, they have agents of influence, but first of all, on this moment of influence of these agents is an order of magnitude less, secondly, the mood is such that it is very difficult for the russians to actually act here, they no longer have such media opportunities, after all, which they had before, which allowed them to really undermine a lot of things, moreover, it is not even the 15th-16th year, when it was possible... to walk around the city center with impunity and lead some convoys behind you and no one would stop you, there is no such possibility now, let 's be honest, this is not a fight for you with poroshenko, who simply did not forbid all this, but the question is even not that, but the question is that i will tell you so, that now even from rhetoric

russian language, they don’t so much put forward some new, you know, talks about some kind of disturbance there, they grasp at the words that are given to them mainly, to their great regret , by officials, president zelensky himself, or the same mariyana bezugla, they of course, they constantly quote them, they constantly play with their words, you see, there is nothing there that would be some kind of narrative that they are directly trying to promote, and these narratives are new, breakthrough for us, no, there is nothing new there no, just such an impression. well, that's it i have the impression that the biggest internal destabilization is now and the talk about the third maidan, you know, even though it is no longer the third, but the fourth, if you count it that way, is coming from vladnyi’s circle, i don’t see much sense in these talks, i’m already alone in this

i said it once, i don’t want to repeat it, it’s just absolutely pointless talk, but i would say that the situation is quite difficult for zelsky now, because the system of people that has formed around him, well , they clearly cannot cope with the challenges, which are standing, they are clearly introducing themselves, well, this is a disturbance in society, because the society itself does not exist, there is no internal request to depose zelsky, this is not true, no one says so, and in fact , the biggest problem for him right now on the march is to change that environment, that is , a lot of problems would be removed, there would be no tatarov, there would be less ermak in the public space, zelenskyi would have fewer problems. thank you, olga alen, maryna danylyuk yarmalayeva, bohdan butkevich were guests of our program today. thank you ma'am and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program. let me remind you that during this broadcast we conducted a survey, we asked you, friends, about whether ukraine can make compromises with russia

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