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it is now possible to create a new synergy of interaction between ukrainian and foreign defense industries companies, there are many nuances that need to be taken into account, and we will now talk about it based on the experience of our next guest, we are joined by pavlo verkhnyatskyi, he is the director and managing partner of the kos company, as well as the co-coordinator of the security and aerospace working group, american-ukrainian business council. mr. pavle, congratulations. i am glad to see and hear you. good day, serhiyevich. i would like to start our conversation with the fact that you should pay attention to, well, first of all, comment on the address of the president of ukraine to the american government officials, to american companies, which sounded on the foxnews channel. this is just a couple of days ago, the president talked about the fact that we are ready for joint production of weapons, and when you do it for ukraine or together with ukraine, then you do it with the americans, and

most of the production will still be deployed in your states , as well as in ukraine, that is, in fact, we are talking about certain such explanations for american partners that money for ukraine is money for you, and this is , as it were, such a political component of this story, and what is the practical component, you communicate in sufficient detail with american companies, how do american defense-industrial partners treat the ukrainian market, what are their visions, what are the risks... what are the challenges? well, first of all, uh, first of all, it's very good that those messages, to the foreign defense industry in general, are being sent, and are being sent at the highest level from the president, it's already very good, and it has taken on this, in my opinion, systematic nature , that is, it is happening now constantly at a good level, and as for the practical component,

here it is a little more difficult, because in principle we will not limit ourselves to messages, foreign defense companies , especially american ones, in which the main client is the american government, and they are usually active in foreign markets, but still focus primarily on their key customer, the united states, they are more skeptical, they are more cautious about... entering new markets, and here, too, it should be noted that unlike some european companies, american companies rely heavily on the opinion of their government and wait for the green light at every step, which they are doing in new markets for them, including in ukraine, where the war is still going on, so they definitely, i can say absolutely definitely, to

local partnerships, to the prospects of the domestic market as such, that is, they are looking at our future potential defenses on... . defense order, domestic, there is little to predict here, given that the defense order will depend not only on the needs of the army, but also on the economy, so there is less, let's say, less optimism, but companies are looking at different configurations, where possible relationships with by ukrainian enterprises, which will lead to, say, joint production and exit, joint entry into foreign markets where it will be possible to compete, and on price, including with other players, including the chinese, possibly with other players, for example, russia , if at all it will still

produce something there after the war, and as for specific projects, i will certainly not say everything here, since it is more or less public . already happened, this, this, the companies are looking at some joint adaptation projects in the field of anti-aircraft defense defense, that is, the adaptation of western missiles to our launchers, for which there are simply not enough missiles, interesting projects, interesting, interesting initiatives, but they are also, well, this is not exactly such a systemic solution, in my opinion, not very ... no quite promising, in my opinion, again, because ukraine , i think, has the potential to produce modern, modern weapons, and not only to adapt to current needs, now it is, let's say more, in such a, well, not chaotic, but, regime the war

is happening, that is, to meet the needs now and as quickly as possible, yes, and what is possible will produce over time, integrate... into international programs, this is already, for now , this is the area where companies look and study the situation, evaluate it, i think, you know, not everyone even comes here for their politicians, that is, it also complicates the process a little bit. mr. pavle, you are talking about the fact that, in principle, american companies, including private ones, which have a part of american defense orders there, are waiting for such a certain green light. so it can't be such a large-scale green light, this is another measure that scheduled for december 6-7, there the us government announced that it should be held there , a two-day such a conference will be held with the participation of ukrainian american government officials, with the participation of defense enterprises, from both sides,

what can be expected from such an event, or i repeat, isn't this a green light that will give american companies the opportunity to approach the prospects of the ukrainian market more calmly or more so? well, first of all, this is a certain continuation of this event that is planned, this is a certain continuation of that the forum that was held in ukraine, in kyiv in september, everyone liked it, and that systematic nature, which i was talking about, is precisely its component, that is, this is the second event, it is a good trend, moreover, it will happen, exactly. .. states, where access is easier, for manufacturers, they will, well, 100% come there in full force, that is, this, this is a good, this is a good trend, but to say that this will immediately open the green light, give

there, for joint projects , again, we can look at it systemically, and take into account that ukraine may need help somewhere going down because of the political component that we're seeing right now in the united states, and maybe that kind of green light would be a good step from the current administration, the presidency, the united states to free up a little bit, to give the industry and us, well, the american industry and we, as a country, in the coordination of certain decisions there, and not to wait for every, every, every step of the green light, taking into account again the political component, but this, in my opinion, is such

a good optimistic view of things, to predict it's probably too early now let's see there, a little more than a week before the event, and in principle, in principle, i probably wouldn't , well, i wouldn't say that it's right away for everyone, they'll open this green light for everyone, it's the second event. on which there will be certain agreements, for sure, maybe some point projects, plus you also perfectly understand that each project is individual, individual, each company that can come here has completely different perspectives and visions, both of our market and of opportunities for cooperation , both from their side and from the point of view of those partners who are in ukraine, stay in ukraine and plus, well, with an eye on the conditions.

war, after all, let's not delve too much into the details of infrastructure readiness for all this, that is, all these things are individual, that's why there is such a general green light, let's see, let's see, but it would be a good step, i think that really would be a good step, and i would like to clarify one more area, you are actually a co-coordinator of this working group on security and aerospace issues, the american ukrainian business council. and actually feel the spirit of powerful american companies engaged in the aerospace segment, i don't know if you have seen the publications there that we wrote there some time ago, because back in the 19th year there were certain agreements with the booyn company about the possibility of deploying there, collecting educational and training equipment there there is a t7 redhawk aircraft on the possibilities, the antonov enterprise, this project was ambitious , interesting, a letter was even sent to the head of the boing company

from the then minister of defense poltorik, then this one somehow went into the shadows, but in any case this segment aviation and space, or primarily aviation, to the extent that it is now such that it is possible to renew these negotiations with boingo or with other companies that can really either use the potential of ukraine or, on the contrary, provide certain competencies to the ukrainian aerospace industry in creating new products that are needed both now and in perspective, what do you think about this? well , it is difficult to predict what might happen in the cooperation between boeing and antonov, because , let's say, there have already been several attempts to implement something over the last few years, and

regarding... about this training and training aircraft, well, first of all, we need to look at how much it is also needed by us, we can choose here now and we don’t have to, we don’t have to, but does it fit into our concept of the development of aviation there industry, because, let's say, the current needs for war, it certainly does not cover, yes, the t-7 is a good training and combat aircraft, of course, it is clear, but considering our main enemy, it is clear that there is not enough machine for there are some problems there, but for studies, it's great, but as we have already seen, it is possible to study abroad, and it is certainly not a priority task, to produce in terms of export to other markets is good, but i think, after all, they will first of all look at what is possible . ..' push both here and in the future to export markets, so for t7, at least

i can't say now that it will be this particular project, i would look in the direction of the bpl, strangely enough, i would look at the development of the bpp including, well, together with the antonov enterprise, this is, in my opinion, a more realistic story now, it is less problematic with the supply components produced... by the production of components in ukraine, for example, yes , i am not talking about the assembly itself, for such an aircraft as the t7, although it is even, well, it is not a full-fledged fighter there, but it is still a complex machine, and for today i am not sure that this decision will be, will be implemented, although it may be , mr. pavle, but are there any fears or restrictions, fears on the part of the americans because of what may happen through ukraine: the leakage of certain sensitive technologies, so it's just necessary somehow well

measure the prospects of cooperation with ukraine, in particular, how did we now ask for solid fuel there for our promising missiles, land there, land there, what was the reaction of the american side? well, yes, this is a very good question, the americans have been thinking about it for a very long time, somewhere else, well, at least in my memory, so actively. there were talks about this in the 15th and 16th years, i remember the arrival of darpa specialists to ukraine, who also raised these issues, namely the security of technologies, their transfer, and so on. and taking into account certain processes that we have happened on the eve of the war, at the beginning of the war, i think that these fears were not , not unfounded, and at the same time, at the same time, often pay attention to such a component as compliance with atar, that is, with the regulations of the united states on the transfer of technologies,

and i know that even countries such as the netherlands had problems with this compliance in terms of aitar at one time, and there were other western european countries when they received american weapons, and we, as ukraine, also need to pay attention to this, that is, it is clear now that we try everything to receive as soon as possible, the procedures are shortened, which is very good, of course, but for the long-term and for such serious projects , for the transfer of serious technologies, new, new weapons, because now we mostly receive, well, older weapons, we need to work in this field as well, at least , so that when purchasing weapons, and in general in the ministry of defense, well, there was a good understanding that compliance is a big topic, actually, and uh, i think the americans, well, i'm sure, actually, that the americans are looking at this, in this direction, and when we have it, well, we need it

on its part to implement the correct procedures, that is, in the aspect of compliance, so that i am not talking about all kinds of counterintelligence things and so on, so that, in order to receive more modern technologies, together with our partners, we develop something more modern, more complex than what we receive now, and mr. pavle, the last question, you communicate not only with american, but also with european companies of the defense industry sector, is there a feeling that there is such a certain competition between american and companies for promising control of the ukrainian arms market. what are your grades? well, i would actually go back to the very beginning of our conversation in this aspect, where it is necessary to understand how promising a market we are, although i think we are a promising market.

competition now, you know, in my opinion, can be seen in the aspect that companies from different countries look closely at what competitors are doing, study each other's experience, look at methods, work in the country, and to say that there is a lot of competition, well you can definitely say that there are french companies, american, british, they are yes, somewhere between themselves, probably, ah, you can say that they compete, but at the same time some projects are done jointly, there is british... american manufacturers, well, the same example there systems, yes, it is a british company, but they have a large part of production in the united states and a large part of the weapons comes from there, which means that there is competition, but now, in my opinion, it is more in the aspect of studying, studying the situation and studying what

they are doing, well, potential competitors do companies from different countries. mr. pavle, thank you very much for your professional explanations, for inclusion in our broadcast, and i would like to remind our viewers that it was pavlo verkhniat, director and managing partner of kosa company. these are the trends related to the development of ukraine's defense-industrial cooperation with our western partners, this is long-term cooperation, which i hope should yield significant results on the battlefield in the near and early term. stay tuned to the espresso channel, there will be. a lot of interesting news and programs, whether the corporation will survive if it collapses family, turn on one of the best hbo series, the heirs, watch all seasons of the struggle

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