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let's summarize the informational morning in ukraine on the air of the tv channel, and khrystyna parubiy works as a news anchor in the studio. the largest shahed attack on kyiv since the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion. according to preliminary data , more than six dozen enemy aircraft were shot down in the sky above the capital drones unfortunately, there are casualties and destruction due to falling debris, our correspondent kateryna galko knows more, she is with us live, i congratulate katya, she tells us what we successfully learned. greetings khrystyna, greetings to the viewers of the tv channel. at night, the enemy attacked kyiv and the kyiv region with drones of the shachet type, which came in numerous waves from different directions and often changed their
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trajectory. kyivites heard explosions in the middle of the night and all morning, according to the kmda, fragments of shahedi fell in solomyansk, pocharsk, podilsk, dniprovsk and holosiivsk districts we are now in the salominsky district, near the kindergarten, a fire started here, as a result of falling fragments of the shahed, an explosion, residents heard around 5 in the morning, fortunately no one was injured, there was only a guard in the building, who fortunately was in shelter, at the moment they are fully extinguishing the consequences of this , the consequences of falling debris, special equipment works here, it takes away everything that fell, a little more about the damage to the facility, i suggest hearing from the director. the furniture and accessories, which are in groups, were damaged, and the equipment that was in the
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groups, because everything was filled with boiling water, as the heating, heating system was broken and many of our objects were damaged by water. the director also said that the kindergarten has two buildings , so the educational process will not be stopped, but the children will be transferred to another building, also in the houses opposite, the windows and balconies were damaged, others, cars were also damaged, i also suggest hearing about this in in the comments now, took the children, moved them to the kitchen, sat on this sofa, so as if there were two solid walls here, only we were sowing, explosions started very close, very close, right next to our house, and then the sound of a motor, after a second the explosion of the door flew out... the door into this wall literally above
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us and the sound of glass, well, that's it, nothing else, then it's clear, it's already a man left, i look at him in the bedroom, completely the place where they lie, everything in the shallows. clave, well, the child’s neck was cut less by the glass, it was more or less quiet, well, of course, we heard the work of the air defense system, of course, everything, but then around 5 o’clock in the morning, we were again very close, here were all these explosions and already there was a wave, when it started to rain windows when there was such a powerful explosion, and our windows were on that side, but our car was standing there, so we sent our father to see if it was intact or not. something, he was lucky, only the windows of the car are lying, and the car is on a chevtsila. in general, according to the central command, as a result of the russian attack, five people were injured,
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including an 11-year-old child. all of them received help on the spot and were not hospitalized. according to the air force of the armed forces of ukraine, the enemy fired this night. the number of shaheds in ukraine was recorded at 75 launches, 71 shahets managed to shoot down, and according to the air force spokesman, 66 bpps were destroyed in the kyiv region. also , there are still power outages in the capital, as a result of a massive attack , power lines and distribution lines were damaged. emergency recovery work has already begun, but it will take time. this is all the information, as of now, khrystyna, you have the word. thank you katya, it was our correspondent kateryna galko, she told the details of perhaps the most massive attack on the capital. in the kyiv region, a fire broke out at an enterprise due to the fall of fragments of enemy artillery. the fire has already been extinguished - reported in the military administration of the region.
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three private houses and one high-rise building also suffered minor damage. the president of latvia shared a photo of edgars rinke hiding from russian drones. posted their photo from the shelter on the network. he arrived in kyiv yesterday and already had time to meet with volodymyr zelenskyi. swiss president allen berse, who arrived in kyiv on an unannounced visit, also felt the russian terror. he will take part in the international summit on food security and meet with the president of ukraine volodymyr zelskyi. among the issues that are planned to be discussed are the consequences of the russian military aggression for the world. food security and long-term support from switzerland, which is currently not as active in aid as other partners. this week, switzerland handed over 25 decommissioned leopard-2 tanks to germany with the condition that they would not be sent to ukraine. in
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donetsk region, the russians injured one civilian during the day, this happened in the village of zvanivka of the bakhmut district, - reported the head of the region igor moroz. the occupiers also damaged almost 20 houses in the region and burned two trucks. in particular, destroyed disturbances were recorded in avdiivka. the enemy hit the city twice with rockets. there is also destruction of houses in the novodnetsk and turkic communities. in turkey itself, the occupiers also targeted an infrastructure object. in the chasovoyarsk community, in addition to private apartments, enemy shells hit a high-rise building. the security service of ukraine officially confirmed for the first time that it struck not only the crimean bridge with its naval drones, but also many ships of the black sea fleet. according to the chairman vasyl malyuk's special services, siibi naval drones attacked russian vessels in the sevastopol bay in october 2022. then four ships were damaged, including the frigate
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admiral makarov. and already this year, drones damaged missile carriers samum and pavelavin, tankersik, amphibious assault ship - olnogorsky gornyak, a large military battlecruiser. muru and the newest reconnaissance and hydrographic ship vladimir kozytskyi. 860 invaders were destroyed by our military in the last day, and in general, the armed forces of ukraine eliminated almost 32,400 russians since the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion. the park of burned enemy equipment was replenished with six bmp tanks, 18 artillery systems, an air defense system and a rocket salvo fire system. as well as 33 units of automotive and special equipment. the general staff reminds that the data are indicative. such was the morning in ukraine, i'm saying goodbye to you already, see you tomorrow.
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glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i greet everyone and wish everyone good health, in the next two hours, on your screens, verdict, we are talking about ukraine, about the world, about war, about victory, about everything that interests you today, our dear tv viewers, today in the program, peace at any cost, who and why, wants to unwittingly involve ukraine in negotiations with russia, demobilization and conscription new, what changes are being prepared for the armed forces, the strike of polish carriers, who are actually behind the blockade. border and is there a russian trace here?
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we will talk about this and other things over the course of the next hour with our guests, people's deputy of ukraine irena herashchenko, general serhiy kryvonos and political expert volodymyr tsibulko. the second part of our program, which will begin at 9:15 p.m., will feature my colleagues, journalists olga len, bohdan butkevich and maryna danylyuk yarmalayeva. however, before starting our big conversation, let's watch a video of how ukrainian defenders continue to destroy the invaders in the avdiyiv direction, the fighters of the god's cause unit of the 47th separate mechanized brigade released a video of the powerful work of the bradley infantry fighting vehicle using a smoke screen on the positions of the invaders, let's watch.
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friends, for those who are watching us live now on youtube and facebook, please like this video and subscribe to our... pages on these platforms. in the course of our program, we also conduct a survey, today we ask you about the following: can ukraine make compromises with russia in order to end the war. please vote on youtube, everything is quite simple there, yes, no, or your answer option, please write in the comments under this video, in addition, those who are watching us now on tv can vote using telephone calls if you believe that ukraine can compromise with russia in order to end the war. 0800-211-381, no, 0800-21-382.
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call, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. i want to introduce today's first guest, iryna herashchenko, people's deputy of ukraine. ms. irina, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. i want to congratulate the espresso channel from the bottom of my heart on its first decade, you are definitely a channel. revolutions, revolutions of dignity. thank you for your courage and the courage to be together with millions of ukrainians who then opposed the klyptocratic regime of yanukovych, and certainly it is a great shame when today, the revolutionary channels, and the fifth, and espresso, and the bank-independent direct, are excluded from digital broadcasting, this dissimilarity with with whom we have to fight, the team happy birthday, so the first and you are grateful review. thank you, ms. iryna, well, since we are asking our tv viewers today
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whether ukraine can compromise with russia in order to end the war, i will also ask you what what do you think about this , as a person who participated in naval negotiations, i still , well, consider this a question, you know, so vague and frivolous, a very short and precise answer, let's move on to the ... informational drive, because actually we would not have asked about it from the tv viewers and you, if the minister of foreign affairs of lithuania gabrielus lansbergis had not said in an interview to the lrt publication. ukraine risks being forced to be involved in peace negotiations with russia, since the allies are unable to provide the weapons and ammunition necessary for victory in war in 2024, says mr. lansbergis, we will need to continue to allocate. time and effort to resolve the crises, but the worst-case scenarios that could directly
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affect the security of the baltic states do not seem unrealistic today. ukraine is currently defending a rules-based order, so the victory of the ukrainian people is an existential issue not only for the baltic countries, but also for the west, and our support for the struggle in ukraine in the near future is a top priority. so, that's it. baltic people the residents of baltic state say that there are risks that ukraine will be pushed or dragged into some kind of negotiations with russia. federation, or, do you see signs now, ms. iryna, that ukraine is inclined to do this, or hints are being made that it might be better to sit down and negotiate with putin in order to end the war as soon as possible? any war ends in negotiations, this is the first. second, it is obvious that the main diplomats of ukraine are the armed forces of ukraine, and it is they who really shape
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our negotiating position, the more we have successes on the battlefield, the more liberated territories we have, the weaker the russian army, the stronger our positions, negotiation and political and diplomatic mechanisms are, it is obvious, and that is why our allies really have such a great need, request, call to strengthen their armed forces the forces of ukraine, to strengthen with those modern weapons that will help us, to liberate more territories, and to destroy more... russians, in fact, all this contributes to, ah, well, let's say this, the successful format of the negotiation, i do not take it lightly, you see, i'm not i belong to those people in power, there, yes, who talked about coffee in the crimea, about the fact that they waved checkers, it is absolutely obvious that it is very easy to talk about the conflict or
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the negotiations when you are there in an apartment in kyiv, on you are talking about it on the couch. it is much more difficult, and again, i speak as a practitioner who spent four years, every two weeks, conducting very exhausting and difficult negotiations for the sake of one thing, to prevent a full-scale invasion, so you cannot take this lightly, and it is absolutely obvious that we we have to form a strong negotiating position which really depends on the strength of the armed forces and how weakened russia will be. and in this context, sanctions are still very important, the stronger the sanctions will hit the russian economy, the more our partners here will simply block any opportunities to supply dual-use goods to the russian federation that can work there for its defense, the more likely that russia will
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be forced to make compromises, what we see now, unfortunately, there is no such reason to talk about russia being interested in any negotiations, unfortunately we see no reason yet for putin to give up his invasive, predatory plans to destroy ukraine, not only individual territories to destroy, but ukraine as a state that he hates with all his heart, indeed, there are certain sociological surveys there, as far as possible in russia, because i don't believe in any democracy there, yes, but today they say... that the number of those russians who, well, no longer like that, fanatically support this specter, and in fact the war, is increasing, yes, but well, it doesn't mean anything, because if tomorrow putin says again what let's go to the end, well, this is a slave society, it will support it, so i don't believe , you know, in any, well, special opportunity
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to influence the mood of the russian population, but that it is necessary to strangle their economy. this is true, and during the g20 virtual summit, vladimir putin said that the kremlin has never refused negotiations with ukraine, well, of course, he is lying as always, but let's still demonstrate it in sync, i want to say sergey , you will now give this sync, but indeed, putin says this, you know, everyone there for 10 years of this great war, yes, the only thing, what he invests in negotiations, negotiations, well if two. the parties sit down at the negotiating table, they are looking for a compromise. russia never sees a compromise, it always stands by its stupid lies, manipulates and stands by its demands, that there are fascists, nazis, a fake country and so on, and therefore, when putin talks about negotiations, he basically voices a demand for surrender, which, of course , is impossible for ukraine, and i believe that any
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negotiations, they cannot be one-on-one with russia, sorry, should be the guarantor countries that should suppress this hydra, comply with international law and respect the sovereignty and security of ukraine. let's listen to putin, and then continue our conversation. some colleagues have already said in their speeches that they are shaken by the aggression, the ongoing aggression of russia in ukraine. yes, of course, military actions are always. the tragedy of specific people, specific families, and even the country as a whole. and of course, we must think about how to end this tragedy. by the way, russia never refused from peace negotiations with ukraine. this is not russia, but ukraine has publicly announced
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that it is withdrawing from the negotiation process. moreover, a decree was signed, a decree of the head of state, prohibiting such negotiations with russia. since ms. irena, you were in the negotiation process with the russians, how would you characterize the way russian so-called diplomacy behaves, although it probably has little to do with diplomacy, let's say, part of that propaganda machine headed by putin, putin is lying, and this entire propaganda machine, accordingly, he does everything to make ukraine a country that is not ready to enter into negotiations, confuses decrees with decrees, in other words, manipulates facts. serhiy, as you know, i am a journalist by education, and in 2002, 2001, long ago, i and my former colleagues
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andriy shevchenko and olga skotnikova interviewed vladimir putin, then he was a young president who had just entered the my position, it was february 2020, 2001 , that is, 22 years ago, and to be honest, i came back from that interview, absolutely amazed, and under terrible stress, because it was it was obvious even then, to what extent putin has a wrong distortion of the idea of ​​history, he said then that the collapse of the soviet union was the biggest tragedy, the tragedy of his life, and it was actually clear that he did not take ukraine seriously and as an independent state, it was clear that this is the enemy, you know, the world has changed in these 22 years, a lot has changed ... ukraine, europe has changed, well, everything has changed, only putin has not changed, he remains deeply post-soviet, such kgbs, and all this has greatly
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intensified, even there it has multiplied by some such his maniacal murderous, absolutely cannibalistic tendencies, and i think that everything must be taken into account, he, that is why our team was in such an absolutely critical state, when the russian federation supported these proxies in donbas, and then invaded directly in the summer on the 14th, on the territory of ukraine, we realized that it was very important that our partners were at the negotiating table, and that putin could not later lie, manipulate something about these negotiations, what was there or not, and it is a pity, actually, that the world treated everything that was happening with crimea, with donetsk, with luhansk so lightly and thought that if they somehow turned a blind eye to it, then they would stop putin in his aggression, in fact it was obvious that he would not stop, so
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our tactic was to increase the potential of the armed forces of ukraine, we understood that the stronger the ukrainian army would be, the less temptation there would be for this scum to climb further, and in 2014 crimea was so easily captured only because his puppet yanukovych and yanukovych's gang destroyed the army , we had absolutely the budget there was impoverished at that time, and only the fact that the ukrainian army was modernized from the 14th to the 19th year, and then to the 22nd, managed to stop putin's plan for such a quick war there. therefore, i think that, of course, it is very important for us to maintain the anti -putin coalition in the world, and we see how the economic situation is changing, we see how polish governments are coming in neighboring countries, how such anti-ukrainian parties, populist parties are winning, and here we need to strengthen
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parliamentary diplomacy, we need now to involve all our efforts, all professional ones people, so that we work with parliaments, with governments, with third countries, which today did not include sanctions against putin, in order to preserve this anti-putin coalition, next year there will be elections in 70 countries of the world... including in russia, including in countries the eu, and in the european union itself, and here i am, you know, we talk a lot about russia there, and i would talk about ukraine, how are we preparing for it, we are not completely ready for the 24th year now, just as they were not ready for the 22nd year, this worries me, too i am trying with all my might to talk to our colleagues in the parliament about this, we may be opponents there, but today we must all work under the ukrainian flag. to be aware of the challenges, when today the head of the european integration committee ivanna klynposhtinsadze, who is going to madrid ahead of the european council meeting, to the meeting
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of all. he will not receive members of the committees of european affairs until the last minute of the business trip, well , what is this, if not some kind of special damage, i do not know, i would talk about how much ukraine needs to do today conclusions in the economy, rebuilding it on military lines, in our parliamentary diplomacy, that a government of national unity must be created immediately, and not this misunderstanding, which today... is called a government, otherwise there will be great trouble. and tell me, please, ms. irena, are there so many of these countries that we need to convince the leaders of these countries that putin is an absolute evil and threatens not only ukraine, but also europe and the world, well, of your practice, that is, is it necessary constantly tell them this, constantly prove, when finally the world will realize that putin is the new hitler.
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well, pay attention to the fact that they began to supply us there, definitely not in the 14th year, very gradually, the united states , there, somehow, not quite publicly, britain, france, germany were waiting until the last, and well, if the european union there they began to supply weapons to ukraine, the countries of the european union only after the full-scale invasion, please note that only the united states included sanctions against putin, well, the countries of the big seven, the european union, but the countries of the global cock have not yet joined the sanctions regime, and this is where the influence of the united states and our other partners on the countries of the third direction, and the global south, is very important, so that they do not supply russia with these dual-use goods that putin's economy uses in the military industry, ah, i think you yourself understand that we are talking about
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a huge number. countries, these are the countries of africa, these are the countries of america, these are the countries of asia, and we have to work with them, and if the voice of ukraine does not sound so loud there, we have to work with them indirectly, but i i want to emphasize once again that just last week i had several business trips , where, for example, there was a women's leadership forum in rec yavik, where there were supposed to be representatives, i had requests to communicate with them from these countries, america, the global south, and i did not sign a business trip, only because i was the head of the opposition faction, sorry, well, this is absolutely crazy, when we have such problems today about reporting the atrocities of the putin regime, about strengthening our presence, that is, information including in these countries, we simply block what, on the contrary , we have to fight for, today, by the way, we had a very
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interesting meeting with the news about the world congress of ukrainians, it is also such a huge army of ukrainians all over the world, it is the diaspora , these are now refugees who have become forced refugees due to the war, and it seems to me that we should work more actively with them, so that their lobbying, their advocacy is more actively involved in promoting the interests of ukraine and our joint work for victory. ms. information appeared. that the newly elected the president of argentina, javier millay, offered zelsky to hold a summit in argentina with the countries of latin america to achieve peace in ukraine, how do you feel about these initiatives of distant countries, whether from brazil, there were once proposals, now from argentina, the new president has mr. miley came, can it have any effect, or are these countries that depend in one way or another on russian energy carriers, and
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in fact they... are doing what during the 22nd, 23rd year, many countries, they did it, put forward so-called peace initiatives, sense which was reduced to the fact that you accept the new territorial reality that russia has taken away part of the territories from you, and calm down on the fact that, well, it seems to me that the more information latin america will know about the war in ukraine, the more important it is for us, so obviously, what is there, well, even in our such communication with colleagues or colleagues from these countries, when we cross paths there at international events or communicate online there, we feel this great lack of information, regarding the security situation, regarding historical realities, so i think it is important, also, well, let's pay attention to the fact that milley takes such a correct position regarding awareness...

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