[000:00:00;00] unfortunately for the events, however, you know, the interest in culture has increased substantially, and this makes me very happy personally, and many ukrainians still recognized for themselves that culture is of enormous importance, in particular, and this - such an idea of ​​the world came to their heads people, when they started meeting with foreigners, with people, with intellectuals, who constantly repeated, for example, that we know that russia is that it is a terrible country, we sympathize with you, but still, what a wonderful culture there and a lot of foreigners really for this wonderful russian culture, for this myth, maybe about the wonderful russian culture, great, they were ready to forgive, a lot of barbarism that exists in this country, and therefore , of course, we began to pay attention to our culture, because it is incredible

, especially the influence, we began to pay attention to... such a definition as cultural diplomacy, and it became ubiquitous, many people began to use this phrase again and understand what it means, this is the next thing, when our directors or our theater actors, our writers go somewhere abroad, perform, show their works and in this way they show our country, and well they somehow build her face in front of foreigners , who, again, let's admit it , knew little about us and this face, it is formed as best as possible precisely with the help of literature, cinema, theater productions and so on. well, actually, we have such a ukrainian institute, which we have talked about quite often, and the ukrainian institute , it deals with ukrainian diplomacy, and you know, if you do a survey, it seems that among our cultural community it is believed that this the institution now

works most effectively. very recently relatively recently, a representative office of the ukrainian institute was opened in germany, and just a few weeks ago a representative office appeared in france, again, it is considered that france is one of the most difficult countries for cultural dialogue, and because there are many sentiments about russia, and little was known about us, but i have hope that the situation will improve, because we will now talk about it with the head of the ukrainian institute's representative office in france, mr. ivan rebchiy. mr. ivan, i congratulate you, can you hear me? i hear, good day, eh great, let's go, because i'm so, you know, among all your colleagues who are involved in cultural diplomacy, i'm doing this survey, so pessimistic, because almost everyone i've talked to says, really, that france is very-

it is very difficult that there is also bureaucracy there and in general it is so dark that, well, in general , you need very strong nerves to work there, can you tell us your point of view, is it just as pessimistic in yours, or can you still tell us something good ? well, thanks for the question, i don't think it's that dark, and that everything is so bad, we started to work , we opened the doors on november 9, for two weeks already, we are actively planning events, we meet with everyone and we see a huge interest, a huge interest in cultural cooperation with ukraine, in curiosity about ukrainian culture here in france, not only in paris , but also in the regions, of course, talking

to the french, conveying our narratives, our opinion to them is not easy, but we just have to find the right approach, and we are looking for it, and i think that - this dialogue will impose fixed, here you are in an interview with the public, just recently, right after your appointment , you actually said that the french love the exotic, according to my observations and the same, and tell me if... take any, or specific examples of musicians, there for example, dachdoters, popular in france , as far as i know enough, many people come to their concerts, what kind of exoticism can we offer them, why they can be impressed, maybe you can again name examples of some specific artists, or in general of art, what can we show them that they will love us right

away, well, they say, talking about exoticism in an interview with the public, i didn't mean that we should show ourselves as exotic, i meant that we can be perceived here as exotic. the french are used to the exotic, they are surrounded by many cultures, many narratives, many cultural disc, disc disc discourses, and i meant exactly that, and we have, have, have, based on the fact that it can be like this, build, our dialogue and with and with them, we clearly, our position is that we do not want to rely on one-off events. er, because they are not effective, we, we gravitate towards pulls, pulls, pulls, systematic work with the french, with french institutions, institutional cooperation,

in order to build, as the french say , step by step step by step this pyramid of joint work and and and and and joint development of culture in the european context? well then, yes, because you can call it our strengths, because it's always stereotypically there, if we talk about russia again they say, then ballet is there right away, i don't know, literature, what do you think we can bet on, as you say, in the future in terms of strategy? we, we must about ourselves, what we have already planned to do, what we are already doing, this is a series of lectures at the sorbonne, actually

on november 28, 28, oksana zabushko will speak at the sorbonne, with a lecture about ukrainian women in art, as well there will be a series of lectures at the inalco institute of oriental languages ​​and cultures in paris and at other higher educational institutions in france now negotiations are ongoing, we have to conduct campaigns dedicated to what is happening in our country, first of all, next year, the tenth anniversary of the annexation of crimea, this is the second anniversary. the beginning of a full-scale second invasion, we have to talk about it in the language of culture too, we will spend weeks, help in holding weeks of ukrainian drama,

we will present ukrainian artists, contemporary and not only, that is, we must show ourselves, but very, very carefully , very gently in the dialogue, without imposing his own opinion, because they don't like it in france... that's exactly what i wanted to talk to you about, and maybe you can give your opinion, because there were such disputes, maybe you remember, at the cannes film festival, two performances at once were enough scandalous and loud from our ukrainian women, actually from the models alina baikova and ilona chornobai, one came in a t-shirt with the inscription... you are gone putin, the other was covered in artificial blood, and again among my colleagues who are engaged in culture, cultural diplomacy

of people, such certain disputes arose, some they said that it was a really vivid performance, that our girls drew attention to the topic of ukraine, others said that it was not a language for france, that is, it was not aesthetically pleasing enough, or it was too scandalous that the french would not understand it, and on the contrary, it had a negative effect, what can you say, you know, in working with the french it is necessary to rely on them, on their knowledge, on their experience, and clearly, to work with them quickly head-on, it does not work, they simply do not understand it, you must always offer a dialogue, the french love dialogues, not at all by the way... you can't impose your opinion on your forehead, come with it and say, well, i think so, i think, my opinion is correct, you, i'm not particularly interested in your opinion, i'm not particularly interested in it,

the french have a whole, a whole culture, the whole art of discussions, discussions in french, this means showing your values, values, without imposing them in the process of discussion, dialogue, it is possible to change them with... it is highly valued in france, there is walter has an interesting saying that the french often repeat, i don't agree with what you say, but i'm ready to fight and die for the fact that you have the opportunity to say this is a completely french credo, if we come, it is clear why these are our emotions, we do it, certain démarches, certain performances, but well , it is unlikely, whether it will be understood by the french, we need...

dialogue is needed, discussion is needed at all different levels, at the level of the professional audience and at the level of the general audience, we will now focus more on the professional audience, that is, as i said, these are universities, this is the leader, opinion leaders, but we will also address wide, to wide audiences, through the promotion of organization of exhibitions, drama weeks, concerts and other events. i absolutely agree with you, because our task now in this cultural diplomacy is not to express our emotions , to influence, really this dialogue, to establish so that we are understood, and then they helped there, or continued to talk with us, and also say the following, you said about this, about this lecture, oksana zabushko's next one, oksana zabushko generally travels and interprets a lot in our country. our position in many countries,

i have heard more than once that foreigners also said that they understood ukraine much better when they read the field studies of ukrainian sex, i heard this many times already from completely different people, but here, if we take the example of germany, then at one of my recent meetings in kyiv with the kiyans, and ms. oksana said how she talked to the germans, well, for example, she explained to them why it is not very correct, we do not really like... such an expression as a post-soviet country and she told them that it is the same as if i told you that you the country of the post-reich, and how it is she said that it happened to them, well, it was shocking, but they understood, and i also heard more than once that the germans should be acted upon with such a small dosed shock, for example, there is also a play in germany, natalka verzhbyt wrote a play, green corridors and there are also a lot of such hard things, and also, as they say, the germans are very well affected

by it, tell me, can the same technology affect the french, because i suspect that probably not, the french must be french again after all, without such shocking things. absolutely it's true, it's useless to shock the french, as i already said, it should be a dialogue, but of course you have to compare, of course. to compare, when you say to a french, well, when they say something about peace, this, this is the discourse like, which is very time here, you can often hear when you say, what would you do if some people came to your house , on your land with weapons, they began to kill and began to seize it, and they think about it and say, probably we would also take up weapons and go to... defend our

country, that's what i heard from men the french more than once, and there are such comparisons, parallels, but of course you don't have to go too far with this, because if we start, if you start to compare france and russia with the imperial experience, the french don't, it's not very clear, and they they are trying to distance themselves from it to some extent. that is, there is a certain balance here, and no, and no, not to shock too much, i hope, i don't know exactly what oksana stefanivna will say, but i hope there won't be such a big shock. by the way, you somehow coordinate with your speakers, well there, specifically with ms. oksana, any possible theses, do you speak, there is no need to speak, because, you know, when we discuss this topic, we still have no solution.

which remained about the dialogue with the russians on various platforms, whether to meet or not, we still have these disputes, yes , well, i also heard opinions more than once that there is a ukrainian institute or the ministry of foreign affairs in general, so diplomats should help artists in general to form what sense do you think it is appropriate to speak there before any speeches, well, specifically with ms. oksana, discussing with her, well, like, ms. oxano, let's not touch this topic in france, or rather talk about it. do you allow this policy? well, it all depends on the speaker. ms. oksana, we absolutely trust, and well.... i don't think that there can be a problem here, and with others, with other speakers, we are very gently trying to understand what the lecture will be about, and well, what narratives will be conveyed,

we are planning several lectures with nobel laureates next year, you understand for yourself that i am not i can say to the nobel laureate, you don't say that, but say this, we live in a democratic country, in france freedom of speech is everything, and you absolutely cannot violate it, you cannot write any questions before the event, hand out slips of paper, and then so that people asked these usual questions, it is an absolute, it is an absolute shame for the french , this cannot be, there is a sharp, sharp dialogue, the french love it very much, that is... to give someone instructions to say something, well, i am not going to do that, but it is not necessary to talk about what can be and what is probable to say, well, of course, but how do you generally

feel about this discussion, about this issue, about the dialogue with the russians, because there are a lot of different opinions. exists in relation to this matter, as in general, right now the policy of the ukrainian institute, the representation in france, how they decided to deal with this problem , when you are offered there, let's sit down, talk with someone from the russians, let's have this sharp dialogue with someone from those , who we call good russians, how do you plan to act in such situations, well personally, i am not going to conduct any dialogue , these...' about proposals from different people from different cultural figures here in france are heard, of course they are invited to various events, interesting events, and then they say that there will be a person present there someone, from some

organization, they are for peace, everyone is for peace, and i very politely refuse, i think so far. it does not take up time to do this yet, this is my personal point of view and this is the point of view of the institutions too, well, one last question and we will let you go work, well, tell me, you are deep in the context of french in general, so you have translated many books from french and taught french, but can you, if possible, briefly describe some kind of evolution of knowledge... about ukraine and ukrainian culture there, well, starting with there in the 90s, i suspect that there in the 90s and until recently, the french generally understood little about ukraine, about ukrainian culture, and what we have at this moment, that they are already beginning to understand, that they are already beginning to know, i very

well i remember how i started driving the paris salon, the book salon, it was 2 , it seems, even before the official participation of ukraine in the book salon, and then they were constantly asking for a book about chernobyl, why, because they actually knew only this about ukraine, ukraine was then stably associated with chernobyl, they didn’t know anything anymore , that is, at that time, it was 15 years, years ago , there was very little information about ukraine, and only among a very narrow circle of specialists, and then among those who are called slavists here, slavists - we understand them, those who study , those who

are studying russian culture, so the whole range of slavic, so-called countries, but now everything will change. they know a lot about ukraine, they even know some writers, they know without a doubt the roof of brakha, they know a little ukrainian cinema, there are a lot of exhibitions, but recently in the louvre there was an exhibition from the funds of the khanenko museum, that is, the french know something, much more than they knew , but it's like how, in my opinion, the elements are quite scattered, and here is our, our main task now is to unite all this, channelize and and with to do with... a systematic policy of presenting ukraine's narratives very carefully, guys, through dialogue, through discussion, through

searches for common points of contact, it seems to me that this should be the case. mr. ivan, thank you very much for these clarifications, of course, we will definitely continue to talk with you, monitor your work, and actually, ivan ryabchii was in direct contact with us. the head of the representative office of the ukrainian institute in france, this ukrainian institute, let me remind you, is engaged in cultural diplomacy, we now have representative offices in germany, in france, i hope the future in other countries, because you know, through culture you can tell a lot, very effectively, because culture is stories, culture is emotions, and people usually really like it when these two factors with well we still have a little time left, just to tell you about the emotions and the stories that shook this

week, at least in britain there will be a lot of discussion, as predicted the last final season of the series the crown, the first four episodes appeared on netflix last week, and well , again predictably, there was a scandal, because there is a scandal in almost every season of the crown, because a lot of people are dissatisfied, well, first of all, people who are fans of the royal family say that they do not respect its authors, that you can't be so rude in the dirty laundry of such respectable people and monarchs, and by the way, various inaccuracies are constantly pointed out, but the series is still one of the most popular, has a lot of fans, but it seems that this final sixth of the zone has not met a very good fate, because critics attacked him

much more than for other seasons, if you look through the various reviews of different film reviewers, series reviewers in such prestigious publications, then a lot of reviews are really not very, let's say, positive, very often the critics agree that this season turned out to be simply unsuccessful, somehow smeared , and there are prospects that such a great popular series will simply fall apart by the last season, well, various inaccuracies are also criticized, well, for example, it is shown there that, well, in general, the series in these first four episodes tells about the events that preceded the death of princess diana, her actual death and funeral, and well, there, for example, prince harry is crying in that place, at that moment , in the morning, when he was not yet crying, he described it in his... book, he described that he could not cry until he saw his mother, and there are many such moments

, they are pointed out, and of course, many people are faced with this, authors who undertake to film the events that happened recently, let me remind you that princess diana died in the late 90s years, and many people, of course, still remember it and can point it out to the authors, in particular for some inaccuracies , but i will also say that in december , the last episodes will appear on netflix, six episodes, which will tell us about the wedding of charles and camilla, as well as the beginning of the relationship between william and kate. well, let's wait for them. well, now i will finally tell you about the profitability and unprofitability of ukrainian films - this question is still relevant, many people do not, well, still do not understand what determines the profitability of a ukrainian film, why and why many films simply do not

can become profitable, but you know, it is popular there, you know what kind of people are skeptical of ukrainian cinema up until now, saying that ukrainian cinema is unprofitable, but actually many films cannot but be unprofitable, because we have a very small market, and if the films are not sold abroad, or if they are shot for a lot of money, then of course the authors cannot get any profits, even if the film will be very good, but still this week the state cinema published a report in which it was indicated that from ukrainian films, this year to them state the budget in particular received uah 314,000, this is the amount, it came mostly from the mavka cartoon, you know about its success, 12 there with a hook of millions the authors transferred to the state budget, it is also about luxembourg luxembourg, about dolbush, about white crow, this films that did not pay off, but still

collected a good box office and gave some part to dashkin, there is generally such a rule. which must be followed by producers who received funding from the state cinema, must return some part, but not everyone it does, but you see, it wasn’t meant to be, a record amount, by the way , the state budget came from films this year, well, maybe another popular film is waiting for us, which i also predict, maybe it will gather a lot of viewers around the screens, it’s called donjuan from age here, you know, the main thing is that there should not be the same story that recently happened with the tv series to make it to 30, in which they showed a girl from kolomyia, here from yashkov, there from kolomyia, and it turned out that the people of kolomyia were a little indignant at this image, which was not at all coincides with with the image that kolomyyan has, the heroine does not look like kolomyanka at all , here we will see whether donjuan is similar to donjuan

yashkov or not, this story is about a photographer who is going through a certain... crisis, but regrets that life has gone somewhere not there, i'll play there, well, let's watch an excerpt from this film. everyone wants something from me, once they had a fight, then he got drunk on my birth control pills , and no one ever asked what i want, what do you want, girls, what are you doing, you have a missing man, and you are talking about creams, lesyonchiks and odessa, a well, you may have already seen it, but now we can watch the trailer, what is playing there, firstly , dzijo, secondly, nadiya maker, and now we will deal with it, because there may be a small scandal, not with dzijo for sure, dzijo, on the contrary , potentially to bring this film a lot of

money, because there are many fans in jiji who constantly though. to his films, let me remind you that in general, if you go to his youtube channel, in general, he has been shooting some short films for a long time, which are quite popular, and the film with him, which is called in fact, probably the first film that made any profit at all for its producer, it was shot with private funds and there was a second million, it turned back because the film was very cheap, it collected quite a lot, but you know, dzidz is like that, like... like an artist who really has a loyal following that brings money to the box office for movies, and if we talk about nadiya meyhar, you know, it's a different situation, because nadiya meyhar, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, even recorded a video in which she condemned the war, addressed to the russians and everything else, yes did, you remember, many stars, but then she stopped talking about it at all,

closed her instagram and still does not write anything, and because probably her husband, a russian businessman, continues to do business in russia, and you know , such people who are silent about the war are not treated very well in ukrainian society, but you know, i just want to see what will be the reaction to this tape, i am in no way calling for it to be canceled, but anyway, well i think such discussions will continue and well, such it is not the first time that situations arise in our cinema, when some sleazy people... more or less is shot in ukrainian cinema and it has to be released for rental, because it is financed by the state. well, we are waiting for this film, we are waiting for another ukrainian film that will be released in the ukrainian box office, and there will not be many of them, because tzhkino has not financed ukrainian films for a long time, we hope that it will start from next year, but also series,

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