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[000:00:00;00] in which regions there may be problems with light due to weather conditions, we will tell about this not only in this news release, jaana melnyk, and we will start with this, today and tomorrow the weather will worsen in the entire territory of ukraine, in odesa region, because of the occasion. 131 settlements remained without light. izmail and odesa districts were the most affected. crews are currently repairing 40 single lines. energy workers work in an intensified mode. due to heavy snowfall and blizzard. traffic on the kyiv-odesa route is limited. and the odesa-reni highway is completely blocked. the rescuers pull out the trucks from the snow. khortovyna does not stop at the police, 48 traffic accident reports have been received. several buses
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left for kyvet. passengers were taken to one of the local schools, a truck with grain overturned near the village of lymanske, an ambulance with a patient was unable to pass, a policeman took him to the hospital in an official car, and due to the deterioration of the weather, there are possible problems with light in five regions, namely in kyiv oblast, cherkasy oblast, chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, and kirovohrad oblast, the ministry of energy warned about this, two power units of thermal power plants. taken out for emergency repairs. the department assured that there is a reserve that can be used in case of need. the department says that the power line is balanced, and repairs are currently underway on the main line in the kyiv region. damaged as a result of shelling the day before, restrictions on the electricity supply of kyiv and the region were not applied. starting tomorrow, a blockade by polish carriers near the shegyna checkpoint
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will be held. around the clock, although from november 23 to today it lasts only during the day, from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. currently , about three and a half of the trucks are in queues on the territory of poland in the direction of ukraine. andriy demchenko, the spokesman of the state border service, noted that it is most opposite the shegina checkpoint, as well as ravarusk. these are directions where trucks weighing more than 7.5 tons can cross the border, because other checkpoints accept them. smaller trucks. sweden will allocate sek 100 million in financial aid to ukraine, swedish prime minister ulf kristerson announced on the ex social network. a financial package of 8 million 700 thousand euros will go to the grain for ukraine initiative, which is implemented by the world food program. ukraine makes a contribution to global food security, albeit
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an aggressive one. war with russia, the prime minister emphasized. i would like to note that the program was launched by ukraine in 2022, and more than 30 countries and international organizations joined it. pope francis is sick with inflammation of the lungs. the traditional sunday message was read by his assistant in his residence, not in st. peter's square. on a sunday morning in rome. was especially cold, the 86-year-old pope in his traditional in robes and with a bandage on his right hand, sat next to his assistant. the day before, francis visited a rome hospital for an examination, which the vatican said ruled out lung complications from the flu. on december 1, francis is going to dubai to participate in the un climate change conference. dear
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brothers and sisters, good morning today. i can't talk out of the window because i have a problem with pneumonia. monsignor bride will read the reflections because he writes them and he always does them so well. thank you very much for your presence. about women's leadership in everyone spheres of life were discussed in kyiv at the women's ukrainian congress. the event brought together people's deputies, entrepreneurs, diplomats and other representatives of civil society. as. the issues were discussed and what they came to, let's see. the seventh ukrainian women's congress, women 's leadership, time of restoration, time of reconstruction for two days in the capital gathered people 's deputies, members of the government, diplomats, entrepreneurs, the first lady also visited the event. they say that living in a history book is a difficult test, but it happened that we
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you and i live in it, but at the same time we write it ourselves, including, we write together, exactly, we write the new role of women, it has already changed and continues to change. according to the personnel center of the armed forces of ukraine, we currently have 43,500 female military personnel, this is almost three times more than in 2014, and the second figure, 56% of newly created businesses this year are women's businesses, the main goal of the congress is equal rights for women and men in solving important issues, including the reconstruction of ukraine. olena, co-founder of the ukrainian women's congress kondratiuk notes that women have the same right as men to influence processes and decisions in our country without discrimination of rights. ukrainian women demonstrate uniqueness.
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when we are weak, we help others to become stronger. during the war, women protect, treat, teach, and volunteer. ordinary women do. ordinary things, this is our vision of the future, a vision that we must not lose while solving the daily problems that i have already mentioned. today, ukrainian women play a significant role in the security of our country, and their main goal is bring the russian aggressor to justice. therefore, the participants of the event touched on the topic of gender equality in security structures and anti-corruption bodies. why did the number of women in government bodies increase, because men were forced to submit their mandate as a statesman and join the ranks of the armed forces, that is why we must provide work that should work in a standard
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mode, regardless of martial law, during the period of war, bodies of justice , law enforcement agencies, justice agencies, the situation in which we all found ourselves, without ours will, er, she just showed the critical role of women in the processes of ensuring security , one of the most important challenges facing our country today is the return of ukrainian women from abroad, this should become a task for our state, she noted within the framework of the seventh ukrainian women's congress director of the institute of demography and social research of the academy of sciences of ukraine ella libanova the main factor of return is the security of influence. we can't do that, well, god, give life to our soldiers, but give us food to look at things, as long as russia is our neighbor, and it will always be our neighbor , security issues remain in question
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, my dream is for 50% to return, if 60% returns, i will be the happiest person in ukraine, honestly, about more. the ukrainian women's congress has become a unique national platform for promoting the policy of equality in ukraine. it annually gathers the first persons of the state, ukrainian and foreign parliamentarians, representatives of international and public organizations, ukrainian and foreign experts interested in gender equality issues. today, more than ever, during the war, ukrainian women showed their strength and will, they have the desire and will work for the fastest possible victory of ukraine over the russian aggressor and the further reconstruction of our state. tatiana golonova, yulia belska, specially for the espresso tv channel. and
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networks. and we'll meet at 6 p.m. congratulations, good evening, i'm myroslav barchuk and this the program has its own name, it is a joint project of ukrainian foam and tv channel. today we will talk in this program about what it meant to be a ukrainian, a ukrainian, a ukrainian-speaking person, a ukrainian-speaking artist in soviet times, my guest today is serhii trimbach. serhii trimbach, ukrainian film critic, film expert, screenwriter, head of the national union of cinematographers of ukraine in 2009-2016. laureate of the oleksandr durzhenko state prize of ukraine in 2008, author of many publications devoted to history and modernity ukrainian cinema. congratulations, mr. serhiy. good. thank you for taking the time to talk to us. to be honest, serhii trimbach and i are the first.
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wanted to talk about ivan dzyuba, about this wonderful film ivan and marta by serhii bukovsky, which was released and can now be seen in ukrainian cinemas, but then we realized that we would be talking about the generation of the sixties in general, about poetic cinema, about actually, what is it like to be a ukrainian in the soviet, in the soviet state, and here i want to start with this, just a few days ago, we celebrated the tenth anniversary of the maidan and our wonderful singer maria burmaka wrote a post on facebook about what it meant to be a ukrainian child, a ukrainian-speaking child in soviet kharkiv, and not only in soviet kharkiv, even after the collapse of the soviet union, now we will show this post, maria , here she writes such a post, and she also talks about how difficult it was to preserve her identity, she comes to her in the comments... a person who used to be, i understand that this is
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the host, yes, this person used to work, and the comment is as follows: i'm sorry, but what was banned in in soviet ukraine, in the soviet union, the bills had inscriptions in all the languages ​​of the republics, one ruble, one karbovanets, on the coat of arms of the state the proletarian slogan was also in all languages, in bookstores, this is what i reproduce in bookstores, a bunch of books in ukrainian, the ukrainian state tv channel ut1 and radiopromin, girls he nightgowns and men in harem pants and embroidered jackets were at every holiday, then we lived friendly, writes a person in 2023 about the soviet era. mr. serhiy, here you are as a witness, you and i are already speaking as witnesses of the era. what did it mean that you came to kyiv? in the late 60s, early 70s, what did it mean at that time to be a ukrainian-speaking person in kyiv, what did it mean at that time to be
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a ukrainian-speaking, say, film critic? i was studying at the ukrainian department at the faculty of philology, it was easier for me, because i, by definition, was oriented to the sphere of ukrainian studies, the ukrainian language, and therefore we existed in a certain niche, i would say, a cultural one, in a bubble, and that's why i felt it to a lesser extent and less acutely, and then i married my wife, a fellow student. well, accordingly, also a ukrainian-speaking environment, rolyt is actually a house of writers, which is currently located on khmelnytskyi boulevard, bohdana khmelnytsy street, and that, and now, and then it was lenina boulevard, lenina street, lenina street, that 's why, well , but it is clear that we were being watched.
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uh, when, because once you went to ukrainian philology, it means that you are oriented, well, such a future bandera, yes , it means that you need to be followed, one of our military training teachers said, you need to be followed, that's how audience of the kgb, the audience of the kgb, well, we were to a certain extent proud of the fact that we are being watched, that we are, therefore, the system is us, then be afraid, we are ukrainians. these, try to us, well, it was then, at the turn of the 60s and 70s, it was still there, not yet some, then it was the end, the era of this thaw, khrushchev, some more liberal ones, all these, still the elation felt from the cinema , we also watched paradzhanov, then at the end i watched shadows of forgotten ancestors, it was such a cultural, aesthetic shock. there and so on, here,
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the poets were reading, and vasyl simonenko, and drachi, lina kostenko and so on, and so on, that is, we really existed in bulbashka, and then towards the end of, uh, training, it was the 73rd year, but then we already started and we, well, let's say, vasyl ovsienko, whom i knew well, who was on the course older, with whom i lived in the same room in the dormitory. he is being arrested, that is , we felt that we were being pushed out into this open space, yes, and shcherbytsky was in charge at the same time. open russification of ukraine has already begun, ukrainian cinema as such, ukrainian-language, ukrainian-centric cinema, was practically banned, already from 1973-4 year, and our idols, well, porodzhanov was imprisoned, well, not to mention ivan
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dzyub, they were imprisoned, they detained him, and he was sitting on this volodymyrskaya street, i didn’t know, by the way, i thought churma kagabiska was somewhere, later years later i will find out at ivan mykhailovych's, that he was sitting there in the inner room, he was also sitting there, and we were walking past him to the bus stop, one of my fellow students was a funny guy, he always put on his hat like that, pulled deeper and said: they know me here, we are them they knew us and we felt it, but already in at the end we... felt it as a threat, there was no laughter here , there was no such distance, yes, but this russian-speaking space that surrounded us, well, more and more often we stumbled against it and collided with it, already
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when, because students, this is such an environment, let's start talking about the beak and the tinizat ancestors , and then we'll start with the beak a little now, because just as you and i planned to talk about ivan mykhailovych dzyuba, a wonderful film was released, which is called ivan and marta by serhii bukovsky, a ukrainian director who already received the vasyl stus award for this film, it is actually a film about a couple about ivan and marta dzyub, where serhiy trimbach myagis was a consultant, and you were there, you were on your last birthday, there are shots in this film where you were in the summer.. in 2021, on july 26, on july 26 you will celebrate ivan dzyuba's 90th birthday, so i understand that you belonged to the circle of people who communicated and knew ivan and marta dzyub for a long time, let's start with how you remember this man, we know him as
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a brilliant intellectual, one of the best literary experts and cultural experts of ukrainians, he is the author of more than 20 books about ukrainian culture, tura, one of the co-founders of the people's movement, and so on, a lot can be said about him, and as you remember ivan dzyuba, i met him in the late 80s, during the perestroika, when all this was already happening, we were going somewhere, there was some cultural action, something cultural like that , well, like then, it was still thundering, everything was noisy, perestroika, and we were going somewhere, and i sat next to him, i knew him visually , of course, and of course he knows me too, i say, i’m happy, i know you, i’ve read you, well, in the art of cinema there, as it turned out later, i still then, or rather, i knew it before, that he was also in the art of cinema, once it was published, just about poetic cinema, that later years later i was there,
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remembering him and remembering one such malicious article by a moscow critic who tried to debunk it. ukrainian mythopoetic cinema, i use a more precise definition, ivan mykhailovych, he immediately started to say some things to me on this bus that surprised me, he says, now the class struggle has been canceled, but it was, that is, he began to say that the stories they simplify, that is, they cancel some ideological taboos together. but at the same time, history is not simplified, they must be abolished, but at the same time it is not necessary to simplify and it is not necessary to say that there were no class differences at all, that everything was normal, the ukrainian village
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lived in general, that means without all these things there and so further, the point is that ivan mykhailovych was already a person with left-wing views, and this is mentioned in the film, by the way, he is from donbas, uh, and he did not marry until he was 30 years old, yes, in those years it was not was something like that, popular, 30 - i'm already 23 he got married, well, he became a father at 23, 21, 23, and here he is still unmarried until 30, and he comes to lviv together with ivan drach and mykoloyunovsky, well , they will perform on tour there and all that, he sees marta, well, who is an order of magnitude younger, young, beautiful, well, she is still beautiful now, but at the age of 20, photographs are simple. i'm here, this is the case when you fall in love with this girl right away, er, and here is ivan mykhailovych, then just
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ivan comes to visit on the same evening, acquaintance, on the same day and evening, and marta's mother says that i i am asking for your hands and your heart daughters, well, mother, clearly the thing reacted as it should, does it say a year? come a year later, well, it is clear that on the very first day, well, a 30-year-old boy was not brought by some such young man, so here it is, and marta volodymyrivna very accurately describes everything, well, she describes, reproduces in this film, this difference that he is from donbass, and she is from galicia, and these are like two ukrainian worlds, how they converge, you know, i find it interesting that how she talks about the fact that it was a party organized by iryna wilde, a writer, and she says that they talked a lot with wilde and wilda to
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arranged many marriages, she was the kind of person she was, she understood what boys and girls should do, so ukrainian, ukrainian of such character, and they should get together, and when iryna vilda, this is the story of mrs. marta dzyube, when iryna vilda saw , that someone is sad, so the girls are sitting there sad, she came and said, girls, what are you sad about, and your united states of america will fall apart, and that's it, and why did he laugh when, when this zat was so double-minded, yes, that is everyone understood what she was talking about, yes, but i'm curious about you you are talking about leftist views, ivan dzyuba, then tell me this, here he is in 1965 writing, internationalism or russification, this big, big text, yes, this is a book where, referring to lenin's quotes, he... proves, proves the fact that there is no internationalism in the soviet union, but there is russification, it means that he, it was a sincere book, he
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sincerely believed in leninism and in national, as if national, views and the concept of communism, in fact, yes, of course, and although at the same time marta dzyuba also notes that ivan was a person...' fearless, brave, and in him, and she even emphasizes that i am a galician, well, traditionally, galicians are liberals, they are brave people, ukrainians, but what about donbas, it's clear, what can i say here , but, but here it turned out, he says that i, i was of two minds, that i knew that this should be said in such situations, here and there it is possible in a different way, i say that this did not happen in iban, what he thought, he as i believed, as i thought, as i said, forget it. circumstances, and he was a brave person, that means, but at the same time ivan
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mykhailovych himself said more than once, well, what, well, he was a naive person, and, but he believed in communism, yes, in communist leftist ideas, what are leftist ideas, that is, most ukrainian writers were national communists, that is, they believed that ukraine could be built with the help of...' with the participation of left-wing ideas, communist ideas, dovzhenko was like that, he believed to the last that it was possible, mykola khvylovy, before he shot himself, as is known, wrote a suicide note containing such words, not verbatim, but the point is that, i it was, we were correct communists, for what we are being killed now, but they were killed for that, even he didn't understand, not for the fact that he is a communist , the fact that he is a ukrainian communist, that's dzyuba, he is a communist, ukrainian, and he,
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naively, well, this is such stupidity, the sixties, they then stormed this fortress, thinking that, well, they didn't want an independent ukraine there at that time or anything like that, they wanted everything to be in this ukraine, in the ukrainian soviet socialist republic. properly organized, and he urged, naively believing that this would lead to being listened to, that you must if you haven’t read lenin in a long time, then you should read the quote, look, he is for the development of national languages, he is for the development of national cultures, and you, and you, and you are acting in the complete opposite direction, do you think that this happened, in fact, here it is such, such naivety, was it related to the fact that these people, the sixties, they did not understand enough what happened to the artists of the shot revival, that this information
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was closed, or did they know it? no, they knew all that, didn't they? they knew all this, but they, you know, even in my family, well, i'm from i heard from my childhood that lenin had everything right, it was just stalin, yes, and then stalin came, lenin, the whole trouble is that lenin died early, stalin came and this clique, which ruined everything, because it is necessary to return to lenin's foundations , the film, mykola mashchenko's commissars of the 70s, what does it stand for. that these commissars had already been there for the 21st year, they had already discovered that the car had gone to the wrong place, and they heard the phrase that it was necessary to fire again from the cruiser aurora, but the cruiser aurora, who does not remember, was already symbolic, that is the shot marked, therefore, the beginning of the revolution, that everything must be canceled
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, rewound, that is why ivan mykhailovych also at that moment had the illusion that it is necessary, it is necessary to remove these mistakes, and then everything will be fine, if if according to lenin, because lenin came up with everything correctly, well, jesus christ of the bolsheviks, everything is correct, read the bolshevik gospel, everything is written there, everything is fine, and then, and then his, there was also a story with the premiere of those unforgettable ancestors, about that i will ask, but he is 65 years old, he is writing a paper internationalism or russification, it is published in the west in many languages, and he was arrested in 1972, and he spent a year and a half in this kgb cell, which, as we said, is located on volodymyrska street in kyiv.
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i want to ask you about his letter of repentance. which he writes, it must be said that he wrote a letter of repentance, ivan dzyuba, he had an open form of tuberculosis, he was very sick, and after one and a half years after he served his sentence, he wrote a letter, i will now quote a few lines of it letter, and he writes, he applies, this is the 73rd year, so that you understand, he turns to the verkhovna rada of the ussr with, in particular, a request for pardon, and he writes about a deeply mistaken , i quote, understanding of a number of national problems, from everything that happened, writes dzyuba, i concluded that it is impossible to forget that we live in a world of brutal class ideological and political struggle, where there is no neutral territory, where one cannot be a little for the soviet government, a little for the politics
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of the communist party, a little against, but for us, to me , it sounds terribly tragic now, because it it is clear to me that this is written by a person who lives in a totalitarian society, and i think he also understood it then, sitting in this kgb office, what do you think about this letter of repentance? well, first of all, i think that uh , uh, i would be in his place, probably the same, i'm not such a strong person, but imagine, that is, well , it's a year and a half, a year and a half, to spend as a sick person tuberculosis is not a runny nose or something, it is not a toothache, it is temporary , it is a serious illness, by the way, marta married just such a man who lived for 90 years, so i always tell men, that you have to get married, if you are alone, you will not
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live, you are not the same as 90, and half of this term, not only us women. they give birth, they revive us, so, well, alfred hitchcock, the director of many such tough urban films, once said that there was an episode in my childhood when i was fined for something and my father wrote a note and asked me to take it to the police, i to his friend, that friend read that he put me in the cell for half an hour, i was scared during those half hours... i was so scared that i have been trying to pour out this fear with these films all my life half an hour, and he wasn't joking, we don't really understand what it's like to spend a month in prison there, someone who hasn't experienced it, it's scary, even if some people treat you more liberally there, so i wouldn't judge you in any way , that's why he made this decision, because he would have died, it's obvious, in

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