[000:00:00;00] after all, they took her away and she really didn’t want to and was worried about not going, not going to the first grade at the dpr school, so that they wouldn’t be brainwashed to study in ukraine, she called her mother-in-law, she said that she wouldn’t give anna maria back that she is russian, that her citizenship was changed and, in general, that all the children who were born during this war since 2014 on e, in these regions, which are now occupied, they are russians, it turns out.

we say deported, kidnapped. forcibly displaced, separated from their parents, and no matter how i phrase it, they are still victims criminal actions of russia. the russians themselves claim that there are more than 7,000 ukrainian children who are currently in the territory of the russian federation, we appeal with a figure of about 2,000, these are the ukrainian children who have been deported or... displaced, are either on russian territory, or on the temporarily occupied territory of ukraine . they say, they voluntarily russified, adopted, sent to a summer camp for rehabilitation, but no matter how you phrase it, russia has committed a crime. i spoke with children who managed to be returned from such camps, they were there there for eight months, some six months,

some even a year. although they were supposed to go for two weeks, they say that this one boy told me when we were leaving the port of kherson, i was as scared as possible, because i saw that the entire port was just filled with children, that is, there were children everywhere, this thousands of children, i looked at the map , it’s like going somewhere from moscow , another week by train to pick up this child, the geography of divorces is very big and it’s all, well, if only it were more difficult to achieve to return these children home, there are no simple returns, we are looking for somewhere even non-standard approaches and even some such one algorithm, we have to do, yes, there is the first, second, third, no, it does not work, each story is a separate case, which we work separately, such a small team that has shown the effectiveness of its activities, therefore it is difficult, the return of each child is

a difficult story. i know 13 stories of children who survived sexual violence by the russian military, at least 13, well, cases have been filed it is in this direction for sexual crimes, and the youngest child is four years old, four, i know stories of children who lost their legs, arms, i know stories of children whose parents were shot in front of them. and i know many stories of children who were abducted, deported, forcibly relocated, what they went through there, i know at least two stories of boys who were in russian captivity and were in torture chambers, and what they saw there was sheer pain, sheer horror when they ask me what

impressed you the most, i can't choose between terrible grief, the grief that affects me the most, my son... his cerebral palsy, acquired, before he did not walk until he was 3 years old, did not sit, did not walk, well, nothing, he scratched, he is a strong boy, he was cured, he was put on his feet, he walks he started, most of all, he loved tarisha, the youngest, masha with a character, a girl with me, what's wrong, everyone will be blamed, a bad character, i don't know who has it, maybe even mine, maybe not. photo on the laptop of flashbacks from a past life. masha and aryna. when the third child appeared in the bervenov family, just a few months before full-scale the village of dvorichne in kharkiv oblast instantly found itself under occupation, because the border is some 30 km away.

there was no chance of escaping even with the baby in her arms. the occupation lasted six months. on the day when the ukrainian counteroffensive overwhelmed the two-year-old, the family found themselves on different sides of the front. it was september. on september 15, before the ukrainians entered, the ukrainian troops entered, the russians left, i asked my mother to take the children to her , there was no one to sit with her, she took them to her, and on the 16th, it turned out that our troops moved, our come, and so are we separated, separated by the river, they stayed on my mother’s side... side of the river, we are on this side of the river, there is russian, here is ukrainian , there are no crossings, the relevant bridge was blown up, and there were no more roads, the russians continued

to retreat chaotically, destroying everything around, using civilians as hostages, not a single humanitarian corridor for the removal of children, not only that, there were several attempts to remove them and the russians shelled these corridors, and accordingly further they created such conditions when the children had, well, in these cities there was humanitarian crisis, that is, they had no medicine, they had no food, and then the russians, as if rescuing children, kidnap them to the territory of the russian federation or to other temporarily occupied territories. anastasia barvenova managed to contact her relatives in just a few weeks. mom called from a russian number. donya, we are near bilhor. yes for anastasia barvenova. time for other photos , now she sees her three children only on them, and during individual sessions of video communication, this is aryna, sat down

on her own for the first time, well, sat at the table, behind her the table was set, she was sitting by herself, she was not saying anything, smile, she tried to smile, arishka. i really, really miss you, but when you chat, smile, yes, everything is good , you put the phone down, your soul has gone to heaven, it is difficult, of course, when the children are there, or at all relatives somewhere? she could no longer stay alone in the broken vshchen-village, she packed everything that survived into a suitcase and went to her relatives in kharkiv, she also went because she understood that when the children

could be returned, they would have to live at least in a relative , but safety, where our home is, there there is almost none of it, you won't come there with children, it's not because of the shelling, even if it is shelled. the conditions for children will not end there , it won't be for a very long time, because everything is broken, here the conditions, study, development, the whole family is afraid of gathering, children and parents, at one table. anastasia is now in kharkiv, no longer with relatives in a rented apartment, she just received a foreign passport and can now go to russia to pick up her children. she has to do it herself, because this is the only possibility, she is helped by volunteers, public organizations, and representatives of the office the ombudsman is consulted, directed,

a route is drawn up, a bunch of legal formalities are resolved, but not officially, officially, direct channels for the return of children simply do not exist. first of all, i see results where we involve intermediaries, where we do not communicate directly, we have the results of our joint activities, but as of today , we have managed to return 385 children, of which the russian side directly, although somehow contributed there , these are six children, we returned all the rest without the assistance of the russian side. i now i can't even imagine what it will be and how it will be?

it's scary, of course, if i come, there was no such thing, but why did they come or something else, i still hope that it will be soon, that well, how long the road will be, i don't even know, i don't know how to go, how many days it will be occupation, some kind of circle. uh, it's always parents who or other relatives who decide to go to russia to take their child with the help of a state team, if we know where this child is, it's always loo. because russians don't give up their children so easily. each one a mother, yes, or a grandmother who goes to pick up her child, apart from this difficult road, she also endures, she has to endure the interrogation, and sometimes it is six hours, there are cases when the children refused to go, so the mother came to pick up the child, and the boy says, i won't go, and my mother calls us and says, how can i leave him here by myself, no, i will be there with him, and that's all, we are

there, well, we arrived, but after a few days, my mother calls, she says, we talked , i explained everything, and the child says that i am afraid to go, because they told us that we will not reach ukraine, they will kill us there and not let us go, but you will be arrested, there is a family of military personnel who were captured and managed to get them back with a little difference in time, and here is their little daughter, anna maria, six years old, who was also managed to get back, and you know, now they are undergoing rehabilitation, and the situation is actually very difficult, why, because now the child sees her very loving parents every day, they really just adore her, and she sees it and still keeps asking, you sure love me, the question that a six-year-old girl keeps asking is, you're not lying, are you? exactly me

love, are you telling the truth? on february 24, i found myself in the city of mariupol, where the mariupol military hospital is located. at that time, i was doing military service under a contract, in the position of deputy commander of a military unit. already two days before full-fledged kateryna and igor sent their daughter anna maria to the village to her grandparents. because they expected, the cannonade in the suburbs was not just another escalation along the demarcation line, when i brought anna maria to my mother, then i would first tell her, then so that it would not happen, well, but love her as your own, as saying, well, like my child, what, well, because i didn't know what could happen, i understood, because well, it's not all chatter, it's, well, it's already a war. even such agreements, if

it continues and it will continue to be so hot, that they go abroad, and for a while there was still contact, we had contact, because ana maria told me on the phone, via video call that mom, they fly here, there are airplanes, helicopters and tanks around the city, i say, that's how they shoot this movie. we were taken prisoner on the night of april 11-12 on the territory of the ilyich and the guys wrote on the sheet with paint 300 that there are wounded here, we generally thought that we would not be taken prisoner, according to the convention of medical personnel, doctors, journalists, combatants, they should not be taken prisoner, i thought that they might be there for about two days they will figure it out... volumes, but then, when

they already started to stage us, some military personnel, the snow is falling, imagine, and they take off their hunting boots and give him flip-flops, those vietnamese shoes, he says, give them some i have boots, well, guys, what are you doing, oh, and they immediately pull them on in front of you, what they take off, they put everything on themselves. in captivity, well, she hoped that her daughter would be taken out after all, and she really didn't want to and worried about not going, not going to the first grade at the dpr school, so that they wouldn't be brainwashed there, so that they would study in ukraine, so for that, that's what she was most worried about, but after experiencing all the horrors of captivity, after returning from behind the walls, kateryna learned that her husband's parents did not even think of taking her granddaughter out of dangerous

territory, six-year-old anna maria remained in occupied mariupol. mother-in-law called, she said that she would not give anna maria back, that she is russian, that her citizenship was changed and, in general, that all children born during this war since 2014 in these regions, which are now occupied, will turn out to be russians. people who succumbed to russian pressure, who succumbed to russian power, these are people and adults who have already been brainwashed by the russians, that is, we are talking about what is happening in russia. very strong propaganda and therefore it is important to know that black is black and white is white. when the family lives, for example, in volnovas, yes, my hometown, and wants to move to mariupol, then in order to

to simply leave the city of valnavaha, you have to go to the so-called filtration camp there, the whole family comes there, the whole. father, wife and children, they are separated, they conduct surveys at the same time, ask many questions, after that, as a rule, the parents go to the basement, it is either donetsk or dokuchaivsk, many are condemned, all are considered spies, ukrainian spies, and given from 15 up to 20 years old, and in fact, children at this time are not just separated from their parents, but sent for adoption to russian families. we lived in the city of teres, this is the city of donetsk region, we lived there since 2006, my husband worked

as a loader at a confectionery factory, and i was a driver. the city of tores, renamed chestyakove, has been under occupation since 2004, the native home, which for yulia's pro-ukrainian family has turned into a gray zone, a disaster zone, where any careless word can have dire consequences, well, we had a group of people there who we were waiting for everything to be restored back, and among ourselves we always gathered with some people who are still in touch, we are quietly talking about it now, well there in the open it is impossible to say, here is this group of people. and the ladies always stuck together, it turns out that due to the fact that we did not hide our position , that we love ukraine, one night the employees of the so-called mgb

of the dpr simply came to us, the husband went to walk the dog, it was 4:00 in the morning, the door opens, they throw the dog in, they say, take the dog, otherwise we will kill it now, people in masks, the husband is holding the letter g, hands back, i was taken away in one car, my husband in another, the children, the children stayed at home alone, they interrogated me in one office husband in the neighboring one, there were interrogations, well, you have to sign what you didn't do, you have to admit that you cooperated, did something with the sbu. and i say, well, i didn’t do this, how can i take all of this and sign it, a bag was put on my head , they choked us with this bag, in the end, then at the end of the day, i signed something, i don’t remember anymore, it’s just the sheet was covered with a white

sheet on top, they took me to isolation, they put me in one room there. they put you against the wall and began to beat you, and that is, you do not have the right to lower your hands, because they beat you harder, they undressed naked, then took them to the cell to the girls, all this with a bag on the head, already in the cell they explained to me what isolation is, that people sit there for 2-3 years in this isolation and no one knows anything about them, i stayed in isolation a little... more than a month, then i was transferred to the donetsk session, well, again, while i was in isolation, they kicked me out in every way, well, what they needed, that is, my compulsory attendance, they kicked her out, thanks to what they said, they brought me a document that my children

are going to an orphanage, they are both minors, i will beg them to start asks to let the children go under the guardianship of a friend, i have no relatives there. and so that i, well, they have such an agreement that the children go under guardianship, i write a guilty plea and so they agreed, let's say, they did not prove the so-called case of espionage to the so-called court, i will exchange yulia, i did not understand anything, but i was sitting in the dark, i was ready to change, i dreamed about it, it would be better to be, as they say, a homeless person in a free country, and... but not there, i understood that i still have an apartment there, that everything remains in torez, but i didn't want anything i'm ready, i'm telling you, i was sleeping under the fence, but freedom, but not in the hands of these people, the first person i called was my eldest son, at that time he was in

moscow, because he left the border , in order not to be mobilized, he hid in a machete there, he says, we already know that you were exchanged, we saw it, the photo was shared on the internet, they and i would not have found myself there, but they found me, saw me, and just me i see my child crying, a child who is already a man, and he is sobbing, of course i cried too, then i had a relationship with marik, with to the youngest, a lot of tears, emotions, such unforgettable sensations, marik was in torez, marik was in torez, attempts to return the youngest son from the occupation were futile, moreover, the friend, for whom yuliya issued guardianship, was warned if the mother did not come to torez for as a child personally, mark will be recognized as an orphan and sent to an orphanage. yulia understood that she

was being lured into a trap, but in desperation she was ready for anything. they tell me that moskalkova will call, this is the human rights representative of the russian federation, and that i need to convince her to help return brand. and when she told me, we don't have any options, come, pick it up yourself, like she will give security guarantees that everything will be with me. ok, and i started asking her questions, what could be a guarantee of safety, that i would not be put in isolation again, that i would not be subjected to these tortures again, and when she said that isolation is what it is, and that you were beaten, well, that's it she pretended that she doesn't know anything about it, the whole world knows what such isolation is, but she doesn't, i say, no, i won't go, well, i just won't go, i understand that if i cross the border, they will immediately send me back to where i was, she says, well, i'll think about it, then she...' calls me back and says: we can't give you security guarantees, only because ukraine is shelling

donetsk. and then it all came crashing down, then of course i cried for a long, long time, well, when you are waiting, here, here, here, something must be decided, here is your child, maybe he will be nearby, you will hug him, kiss him, smell the child, and it didn't happen, well, my heart just breaks. the russians began to take out the ukrainians children from the temporarily occupied territory of ukraine to the territory of the russian federation since 2014. then the public russian federation showed the first so-called humanitarian program. it was called the train of hope, it meant that any family of the russian federation... could then travel to crimea, ukrainian, choose a ukrainian child from

among orphans, adopt it, which is already a direct war crime, and take it to the territory the russian federation, they have been doing it since then, are doing it and unfortunately continue to do it, today we are already talking about six scenarios abduction of children, which are used by the russian authorities, the first scenario where the russians kill the parents first. very often this happens right in front of the children, and then the children are kidnapped. the second scenario is when the russians separate children from their parents during so-called filtering operations. as for the third scenario, when the russians take the children, they remove the children directly from the biological family, removing the inconvenient adults who do not want to communicate and interact with the occupying authorities. the fourth scenario, it is probably the most widespread, when the russians create unsuitable living conditions for children in the occupied territories and then allegedly voluntarily offer parents to send their children to

children's camps for so-called rehabilitation. the fifth way is when the russians did not give us the opportunity through the green humanitarian corridors to withdraw children from the institutions of institutional care, which fell very quickly under the occupation. and as for the last scenario that i told you about, the sixth scenario is evidence that in the temporarily occupied territories, the russians conduct so-called mandatory medical examinations of children, and it is during these examinations that absolutely healthy children suddenly receive diagnoses that require immediate treatment or rehabilitation in the russian federation, that is, in addition to all the fear that i told you a little earlier, the russians also conduct just a special selection, this once again proves that they have a clearly well -planned genocidal policy towards ukraine, i

lived in mariupol. it so happened that i connected my life with the army, the armed forces of ukraine, and raised my children, served to the ukrainian people, my son was involved in football, my daughter was engaged in rowing, she walked, she is the champion of the donetsk region in rowing and canoeing, i had a dream to go to the world championship, i could not even get out of the gym, i could even in...' not once to eat and immediately run to training or make time, when someone said that there would be a war, i didn’t pay attention to it, and i only realized when i woke up in the morning, and people started

walking to our windows and there was an explosion, on thursday morning i woke up i thought it was fireworks i start it, i thought, maybe someone has a holiday, so i will go to bed, in the morning i will call my mother, ask what happened, just as she should have come home, i went to bed and i laid down, it turns out, with my back to the windows and kind of covered myself just in case, i call her in the morning, and she says that they won't let me out, it's already... i learned, i left mariupol by order, well, that is , while performing a combat mission, my children stayed on the left bank in the apartment by themselves at home, without adults, without anyone. dani did not ask any questions at all, the only thing is that he studied it, when the explosion happened, he was already falling on

the floor and covering his head with his hands. the heating disappeared instantly. light on the second day, the shelling did not subside, and any silence was changeable, on the 10th morning, i remember it for sure, it became very quiet, and the sun came out, it became warm, and we came out of the basement to warm up and eat. there was nothing, well, there was no hint that something was flying, that someone shot from something, it was just...' and everything stopped, breathing was normal, nothing, everything was in the dust, nothing was normally visible, and i was nothing i couldn’t tell, i was just breathing, my breathing somehow came out, but it sounded normal, i could n’t do anything. i realized that my legs weren’t working, i tried to return to my stomach, after that i

lost consciousness, he was turned over in front of me, he was pale face and behind...' eyes, i thought he was already dead, i really thought he was dead, a day passes, two passes, three passes, and i have no contact with the children and that's all, well, first things first , of course there were thoughts, well , i just didn't want to live, that so, as they started to tell, when...' what inhumans began to come to see what they were doing with the children of the military, yes, with their parents, with their families, they sent a lot of photos from mariupol of children, wounded, injured, dead, killed, i looked around, all the photos, photo cards, the girl is 14 years old,

too long the hair, the boy is small, you fit under the age, and there are all the lists, the ones that threw out the wounded, the unwounded, there were no children in any of the lists, neither in the dead nor wounded, nowhere at all, nothing, we collected things, documents, they put me in a construction wheelbarrow and took me away, simple in the morning, no one had fired yet, they were driving by, there were corpses, mines that were not there, and they were driving, the tanks were knocked out, karina with little danylo in her arms, together with the neighbors, they took the wounded sasha to the mariupol hospital, there were many people there, how wounded , someone has no body part, someone has serious injuries, and when they heard that they were coming, everyone ran to the wall, or somehow, and i stood in the center, no one took me away, the street fights moved even closer, the circle tightened, so when karina was offered