[000:00:00;00] how come it doesn't resonate with me, and the economist took it, he wrote, he wrote five positions of help that must be done immediately, by the way, there is a line of defense on which, for example, a decision has not been made yet, yes, what should be done with it, there is the question of providing the army with drones, fpi drones and other new technologies, and these are really basic technologies of war, there is the question of mobilization, and surely we must jointly find an answer to it, because this is an extremely painful question and it is really the most painful for politicians. because it is lowers the ratings, let's be frank, but really the army ca n't fight without rotation either, it's also impossible today, because people just have to rest banally and we need to understand our resources and probably develop war scenarios from that. therefore, if we are already close to such a crisis situation, let's use it to our advantage, let's talk professionally inside the parliament, maybe at some closed session, let's have such

a conversation about what we need today, we need to develop a single attitude towards the sick, sometimes political issues, but the fate of the front and the fate of the country today definitely depend on these issues. ms. elizaveta, if you want, react, because victoria addressed you and said that there is actually no reaction from the servants of the people party, and that is also bad, really, because it is perceived as a position not only of the party, but also of the president of ukraine. i think it will not be a secret when i recall how many people are in our faction, how many different opinions, how many different discussions, and how things are not always quickly resolved, i will honestly tell you that the conversations they are very fierce about this issue, specifically about statements or exclusions, whether to

keep or remove a person, it is very active. and there are a number of colleagues who speak publicly about this, i think that we will see what will happen in the near future, when there will be plenary sessions, i think that there will be a certain position, we have at the moment, i will say that the position is not to play along with various rumors, and do case by case, if a decision is made to exclude, then it will happen at the next plenary meeting. it will be if it is not, if it is not sufficient support or something else will be adopted, we will also find out about it, i don't like it, specifically that a lot of politics have started, i repeat, which distract us from very important issues, and i don't want to discuss the exclusion of one deputy, when in we are at war every day

and we need to talk about strategic... important things and focus on that. thank you. mrs. solomiya, arahamiya said about mobilization. mariana said about the number of people who are taken monthly by the armed forces, and it was also such a new information, because of which yuriy gudymenko actually wrote a statement to the security service of ukraine, where the figure of 20,000 people needed every month by the armed forces was mentioned. this discussion, how many people are really needed, and whether it is necessary to change the system of mobilization, not only to demobilization, it is clear that those who are currently at the front, they need to be replaced, and the topic of mobilization, as far as i know, in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, about this was said publicly by roman kostenko, that a draft law is being prepared that relates to immobilization, to demobilization, and that, to the leaders

territorial ... assembly centers will be given more rights than they currently have, and that the system should change in general in the country, what should change in your opinion and in what way and in what perspective? well, i would like to comment on arahami's words, i keep trying to master his interview, and everything is very simple for him, it turns out for us that we are fighting here because boris johnson came to ukraine then, he said that we are not going to sign anything let's not go to war, for me this is such a big question mark, actually, who accepts the decision, how and where was the ukrainian society and all our national resistance when yevhen shevchenko , our colleague, decided politically and diplomatically together with budanov to withdraw the russian troops from the capital, this is also such sensational news, with a big question mark, where were our military , where there were all the other people who fought in the occupation and during the occupation with

this influx in february and march. such rather outrageous things, as for me, what david voiced, and i will allow myself a small remark to the league, that we do not discuss someone from... members of your faction or party, in particular we are talking about the narratives that are being communicated in ukrainian society today and are disturbing the entire ukrainian space, and how they fit into russian narratives, in particular, because it is one story to ask what they want to make people with people's deputies, kill there, hang and so on, as many as they wish us death, it was a separate movie, but another when it comes to the issue of the command of the armed forces, under the leadership of a man, as the war has been going on for 20 months, and a man who leads all forces security and defense. with regard to the mobilization and reform of the tsk, an absolutely valid and correct remark, this is how we talk in the last months about the reform of the tsk, about moving away from the exhaustive method of mobilizing people, kidnapping on

the street, beatings and so on. we are talking about the transition to such and such a hybrid possible potential format, when each type of bad forces will be able to have its own recruitment to its ranks. and we are not only talking about increasing the rights of military personnel of the central committee, who in fact already use them and very often add them up, but we are talking about increasing the powers of the bodies local self-government and state authorities, which very often refuse to communicate and cooperate with the tsc regarding mobilization, and such regions as the odesa region or the city of odesa, we well understand what moods prevail there, which are far from the same as in western ukraine or central ukraine, especially when we mention the southern part, odesa region, we know their opposition. reluctance to cooperate, concealment of many layers from mobilization, and then we see what a great quality of men, who, who are called up by the central committee, that is why this discussion continues,

we are really talking about a consensus for demobilization, er, according to the time of those people who serve and went to serve on the 24th, or those who have already entered the service before february 24, 22 , and it is about today, at least between the factions today, not about 18... months, but about 36, we really do not have an answer from the general staff at the moment, because they are the ones who form the plan of the need for the defense of the state, and they come, of course, from the tasks that are set, in particular, by the supreme commander , so everything is absolutely logical, and we know very well, in particular, the role of the president's office, i here i am not emphasizing the president, but also the assistants, deputies of the profile and who very often play the political violin and influence certain decisions that concern the country's military command.

along with statements about the need for reform of mobilization and demobilization, the ministry of defense announced that it intends to build fortification lines at the front, that you, ladies , know about this and whether, well, it's better late than never, why, why now this... has arisen, and in the time when the russians have already built three lines in the south, we are just talking it is in the public space, well, at least the ministry of defense, it brought this topic into the public space that the agency for the reconstruction of ukraine will participate in this in these fortification lines, does this not mean that we are also giving russia certain information that no fortifications we don't have any, and now we are forced to just ... er, already catch up with this train that has gone far ahead, mrs. elizaveta, er, i will honestly tell you that apart from

such information from the media, i do not have more understanding of this issue, i do not have information, maybe colleagues from the committee with national security has more information, it's better to comment, because i don't... not enough information to comment on it. thank you, ms. victoria. sergey, if you will allow me, you know, it is an extremely important topic, and to be honest, i am very surprised that we are only now starting to talk about it so seriously, we tried to raise it before, because, well, the russians know what we have with fortifications , they have enough quality intelligence there too, from drones, scouts to many other things, and they are very good at everything understand therefore, it is not a secret, the line of defense plays a huge role , of great importance, we have known this since 14-15 years ago, and in the end, this line of defense , which was built then,

allows us to hold today in the donetsk direction, donbas, in the donbass, that is, strictly speaking, the donbass front, yes, that is ours, and it is obvious that a new line is also critically needed. she is really needed in the direction of kupyansk, the situation is really difficult there, i know it well, from my husband, who has been a lot in the forest and he fought there, how difficult it is, how unequipped the lines in the forest are, it is generally difficult to do it, accordingly, it exposes the whole direction there, from luhansk towards kharkiv oblast and kharkiv, kupinsk, this is a complicated story, then, of course, the front line moved a little, unfortunately in our direction, in the same donbas, and it is obvious that now there is a question of building a line of defense against the temporal ravine, and i want to say only one thing that when

these fortifications were built in 14-15 , this line of defense , then it was the task of local self-government bodies, then it was really a demonstration of very serious cooperation between the government and business, because the local business was involved for this, but if we even show military equipment there now to our viewers, i'm sorry, but it's communal equipment, there are enough communal equipment in local self-government bodies, language it's about their regions in the first place, it's about... that these are regions where there is business, it's obvious that even some public works could be announced in this regard, i'm just afraid that when we know we focus everything in the hands of someone one state agency, that we simply will not strengthen such a large-scale structure, because it should be, well, a large-scale fortification structure, which, to be frank, will protect ukraine today from the russian invasion, which, well, which can, which still poses a serious threat and let's

let's do it too, i don't want to be, you know, the bearer of bad news, but no one is saying that some breakthroughs by the russians are no longer possible, yes, in one of the directions, at least somewhere when our forces will be needed, for example, under avdiivka, yes, when we need it to retain there what we have won there in the district works, and in the zaporizhzhia direction, we are already talking a lot about the kupinsky direction, the situation is really very difficult there and it is difficult there, you know, without a line of defense it is generally difficult to build such an effective, sophisticated defense, since it is true that russians can enter from the territory of the russian federation from the territory of luhansk region from both sides, and this is a huge problem, therefore the structure is extremely necessary, therefore it must be a matter of, well, such a very serious cooperation between local self-government, business , which should be involved in these processes, which should join in this, as a joint social responsibility, of the citizens who live there, yes, and then the state, so

it must be said that it must be accepted the decision is primarily political, that the country needs it, because i, for example , know that such a decision was not taken, because it was believed that it would be a negative signal for society, that they say, we are already talking about defense, but sorry price you know the reluctance to look up is sometimes very high, and this is exactly what this issue is about, the construction of defensive lines, ms. solomi, what do you think. so, is this the decision of the ministry of defense to create, well, a certain cooperation with entrepreneurs, through the agency for the reconstruction of ukraine, or will it speed up this process of building these fortification lines, because obviously these fortification lines are also needed around kyiv, no matter what, because well in principle, the russians are unpredictable in their actions and they may

try to repeat what they did in six months or a year there february 22, well, first of all, it is difficult for me to say what role, in principle, is played by the dp, the agency for the reconstruction of ukraine and what they do, but it is probably the dp, which uses international funds for the reconstruction of cities, towns, and regions that suffered as a result occupation or there are military actions, but i am categorically against such a story and against the diversion of funds through one state-owned enterprise, because we know it well, and vika is very good at it. kukuvala, what happens as a result, as a result, we will see unfinished works, not accepted on the balance sheet, not signed by contractors or customers, therefore that because of the quality of services, services and execution of works, therefore categorically, we have experience, already working 7-8 years ago, when indeed local self-government bodies, state authorities , local business, we were responsible for the first, second or third line of defense , and each area according to this... and in this variant , it is working. moreover, even in this case

, we had people who sat down for criminal cases for disbursement of funds and non-fulfillment of the scope of work, but at least this is already a mechanism that has been launched and revised, through one the body of the dp for the restoration of ukraine, we see neither restoration, nor constructions, nor works, nor defense, and that's it, we're done with it, the experience is burned, categorically, i'm personally against it. i understand, although it is difficult for the government to understand why they decide to do such things through one dpshka, but i want to remind you that in fact , those commanders, groups, or heads of regional military administrations, who felt as if they understood the threat from the north or the east , where we have a border with the republic of belarus or with the boskals, they actually did this during his previous year, not even just the last one, and they began to do this in the neighboring regions, so in fact the topic is not new, it should have been discussed long ago at a meeting where

all the heads of powerless agencies, all key representatives of the government, and together with the president had such solutions. to be accepted, it is surprising to me that in fact this was not done earlier, but these are obvious things that should have been done immediately after the departure of the troops, from near kyiv, and when we got our additional border free, after muskals had to do certain works right away, just like in bakhmut, we had a question, why wasn't a second or third line of defense built behind bakhmut, why were we waiting for the next potential offensive of the russians? accordingly, such things really became the first priority of the discussion. thank you, ms. solomi, after a short break we will return to our conversation, dear viewers, do not switch. do ordinary things become

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have already taken part in this phone survey , and we're also asking the same thing on the youtube channel, it's pretty simple there, you support, you don't support, you don't trust, and if you have just write your special opinion in the comments under this video. let me remind you that today we have viktoria syumar, a people's deputy of ukraine from the european solidarity faction, solomiya bobrovska, a people's deputy from the voice faction, and elizaveta yasko, a people's deputy from the servant of the people faction, on our air. well, the situation on the border with poland remains quite tense and difficult. people's deputy. mykola knyazets, who visited the border, is convinced that in order to solve the issue of the border blockade, because we see that from the polish side blocked entry to and exit from ukraine, so knyazhytskyi believes that the president of ukraine zelenskyi should

contact the president of poland dude and initiate a joint meeting of the national security and defense council of ukraine and the national security council of poland, let's listen to what he said. only at such a joint meeting can it be shown and explained how important and threatening this blockade is, how much it makes it impossible to protect us from the russian aggressor, but for some reason this is not done, if the polish the party would refuse such negotiations, then it would be possible to initiate a meeting of the newly created ukraine-nato council, because this is not just a matter of food. this is a matter of national security and ukrainian weapons, but this is not being done either, ms. elizaveta , please tell me, at the heart of this conflict, is it not even a conflict, it is simply a blockade, a blockade of the western border, the border from which ukraine receives almost everything, because

our air transportation does not work, and our ports do not work, and we have the only exit to the world in fact through the western border, including through poland, who and why in your opinion is abusing this and actually set up a blockade of ukraine, playing into the hands of the russian federation first of all, because it also affects our ability to receive humanitarian, military aid , fuel and lubricants are not imported from poland, and why is there no strong reaction of the ukrainian authorities, or rather an articulated position? i will start with the last one, there is a reaction, it is 100% from ukraine, and we recently voted from our parliament a resolution to appeal to poland with... please resolve this issue somehow, i have just started the broadcast

, but recently i saw the information that finally the polish authorities officially addressed ukraine with a proposal on how this issue can be resolved and suggests that ukraine cancel the electronic registration of those trucks that go from ukraine, already without cargo, are returning to the countries of the european union, this information recently appeared, and i think it is very positive, unfortunately, i have repeatedly said on our broadcasts here that because of the fact that in poland there were elections, almost everything related to ukrainian-polish relations began to be used in political battles already in poland, and therefore, including the issue of the border, and trucks, and drivers, began to heat up on the narratives of the polish,

of course, in reality, this is bad , and this is in favor of the narratives spread by russia , but i still hope that in the coming weeks, when the new government in poland has finally stabilized, because now we understand that difficult weeks are coming, very... a lot of internal processes in poland, and we, unfortunately, have become a topic used in political battles by the poles of their political, well, i would say so, we have become hostages of this situation, ms. victoria, you, as a person who worked in the council of national security and defense, do you agree with knyazhytsky about that , that this is a matter of national security, it should be resolved at the highest level. and it shouldn't last for three or four weeks, because on november 6, this blockade is going on, there are several dozen people blocking this

border, and we can't do anything, our drivers stand in line there, they stand in line back, and the poles are, as it were, our friends and closest associates, but it turns out that they simply block all the cargo going to ukraine, which is so necessary in ukraine, they are not just necessary, we still extremely serious, we bear economic losses, it has already cost billions of dollars, and this is for ukraine in war conditions, currency inflows, in particular , there, yes, indeed, inflows of goods, export of our goods, because for us, logistics today through our own destroyed the logistics of the russian federation, the black sea is blocked, these are key logistics points, in fact, and their blocking is a huge blow to the economy, simply huge, i asked a lot about this problem, about the fact that polish carriers want to get

there are some guaranteed places, more subsidies from the european union, in particular, and they are fighting now for these subsidies, for next year, in particular, they are playing in their own interests, but i think that here this situation was necessary, you know how at least to even warn, that is even, well, to some extent there is even a trade war, well, that is, wars do not just happen, there are a number of problems, and if they are not solved, if they are not talked about, then obviously they come to a dead end, and then it just creates huge tension between both countries and huge problems for the warring ukraine, and this is exactly what we are facing, and you know, our parliamentary appeal, the appeal to the parliament, where a new coalition was formed today, well, it was not entirely decent, because after all, for this blocking is the responsibility of the current government of poland, who received a new vote from president duda there today, but who most likely does not receive a vote from the parliamentary majority, and it is obvious that this plays against the future

president, the future prime minister of the election. polish donald tusk, who will most likely already be proposed by a coalition of opposition parties in the polish parliament, that is why this is our appeal, to some extent it was not even at the address, i am sorry, and this must also be taken into account, and this is an important point, so obviously yes, solve this the problem can now be solved at the highest level, already, if allowed, because it is here the question still arises about the level of our government and the level of our negotiators, and when, well, and to what extent these people are able to conduct... negotiations in general about the integration of ukraine into the european union, because we still have this task ahead of us, who did not see this problem, they couldn't warn her, and now the government can't solve it, the deputies say , go there, solve it, then we understand that this is actually what the government should do in the first place, really now it's already a security issue. thank you, ms. victoria, ms. solomia, regarding the government officials and their actions, about which

said ms. victoria, or. quickly we react to it, whether we react correctly, if we do not react correctly, these losses that exist are not only a problem only on the polish side, but also a problem on the ukrainian side, because well, it does not happen that there was such a loud scandal regarding the blockade of the border with ukraine, and we could not somehow stop it and take all the right steps to prevent it from happening, and we could have warned. this is because ms. sjumar is right in saying that we have a long negotiation process ahead of us, hungary, slovakia, poland, and there in romania there may be a lot of questions for us, what to do in this situation, and who do you think should

correct it anyway, unfortunately, unfortunately, we can't hear you, sorry. do you have something with the connection, ms. solomiya, we, we can't hear you, sorry, well , you have some kind of problem with the microphone, probably not, let's try to redial now, we can't hear you, sorry, ms. elizaveta, what do you think , how quickly the government of ukraine and the ukrainian side will be able to influence those who block the ukrainian border and until well, i think, finally, if poland spoke about it, because in fact there was no clear communication from the polish side, if poland has already made a statement and is ready to talk about it, i think that we should still hope that this issue will be resolved in the near future, because, well,

here i agree that this is a national security issue, this is an economic issue. and in general, how many people suffer from this, of course, it must be solved very quickly. thank you, elizaveta yasko, solomiya bobrovska and viktoria syumar were guests of today's event our program. ladies, i thank you for being with us today, and i say goodbye to you until the next programs, and i will remind our viewers that during the program we conducted a poll, we asked you about whether you trust the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny, now let's see, the survey, since we conducted this survey in telephone mode, so 95% trust, 5% do not trust, the level of trust is quite high, we also conducted a survey on our youtube channel during the program, that is, during the second broadcast

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