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daria kudimova and you are watching svoboda live. today in the issue we will talk about the widow, in particular about the partial capture of the industrial zone there by the russian army, about how the current bad weather affects the operational capabilities of the armed forces of ukraine on the left bank and the capabilities of the occupiers in crimea, as well as about calls for the release of the commander-in-chief of the industrious and state secrets that have become public property, about all this and more in the next 45 minutes. well, let's start with the shots taken by the correspondent. rfe/rl near avdiivka, the use of ffp drones in the avdiivka direction by the ukrainian military became one of the main types of weapons that stopped russian convoys during the offensive. currently, the russian military does not use equipment during its attacks in this direction, only a living resource. russian infantry storms daily, only one ukrainian calculation of attack drone operators uses about 30 warbirds

daily. then there are shots of the pilots. in the shock bplla of the 47th separate mechanized brigade of the armed forces of ukraine on the outskirts of avdiyivka, yes, thank you, thank you, thank you very much, all your weapons are clean, are there already identified targets, or do you have to find them? there are so many that you just fly in with a mavic , saw a comedian rise and go forward , don't even live, it's an plow, there will be more infantry

approaching today, we are finding targets, it could be alive. the enemy's strength can be equipment, there can be some kind of fortification, artillery, ages, machine gun, everything, we find what can interfere with our infantry, and after that we send a kamikaze drone to destroy it, but yesterday there were six of them, i see it with red helmets, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that’s where it was sitting, red pov "yazka, yes, yes, red, with a red bandage on his leg, there he is wearing helmets with red bandages, everything is a plus. cartoon, everything is as it should be, yes, yes, yes, it is, where it is needed, the head

disappeared. here they crawl and crawl, crawl and crawl, they every day, that every day new fresh strength, despite the weather conditions, despite nothing at all, the losses, the losses they have here just very huge, but still they crawl and crawl, they literally walk on their corpses, just on the wounded, on corpses, they don't care. they don't pay attention to this, they grinded one brigade, they grinded the second brigade, they launched the third, they have a lot of stock here, they have a very large resource. the institute for the study of war writes that russian troops advanced to the northwest and

southeast of avvidka. in donetsk region, analysts refer to data from russian sources, but say that geolocation data confirms that russian troops are not present, but advanced to the northwest from krasnogohorivka and to the east. part of the industrial zone on the southeastern outskirts of avdiivka. in addition, the institute for the study of war claims that russian armored vehicles attacked ukrainian positions in the northern part of the industrial zone to the southeast of the outskirts of avdiyivka. battles in the industrial zone near avdiivka, the head of the city vitaliy barabash confirms. at the same time, experts note that they have not found confirmation that the entire industrial zone near the yasinuvata railway station has been captured by the russian federation, as some russian bloggers write. simultaneously british intelligence writes. that due to the offensive on avdiyivka, over the past six weeks, russia has probably suffered the largest losses of army personnel during the entire war in ukraine, and they add that the russian army is losing even more soldiers than in the battles for

bakhmut. well, a military man from the avdiiv region shared his impressions of how the russian army is advancing on avdiivka to our colleagues from radio donbas-ralia, andriy sergan, platoon commander of the bpp of the 59th separate motorized infantry brigade and let's listen, the number of drones in them is unfortunately greater and their tactics is constantly changing, then they use equipment there, the equipment didn’t work out, they use infantry, which they don’t care about at all, because it can even be our former fellow citizens, but at the moment, they are , let’s say, harnessed there, in short, in russian uniforms, and they don't feel sorry for them, really don't feel sorry for them, not us, not them. that is, you understand, and that’s why at the moment, the losses in the infantry, they are such an impression that they don’t count them, it’s just that for them human life is worth nothing, but our boys, well, handsome guys, they are, in

principle, the only thing that has cooled down now and it's well well, every night and every day standing on the front line is heroism, petro chernyk, a military expert, joins our broadcast, mr. peter, my greetings. good evening. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. avdiivka positions of the ukrainian army in 2014 and they considered themselves one of the best fortified and prepared. why was it possible to partially capture this industrial zone, which is said to actually open the way for the invaders to occupy the city. giant infantry ramparts, we can't cancel them. it is played out here a very serious political issue. what does it consist of? the enemy came to the realization that the strategic goal of medicine. they will not be able to achieve ukrainian statehood, and that was the goal, so we need to implement the minimum task, the minimum task is very simple: to go to the administrative borders of donetsk region and luhansk region and tell the whole world that, as they say, we have completed a special military operation, putin needs

at least some positive the results in front of him, before the appointment to the post of president next spring, and no one will dare the king's words to revise, if the order is given to storm the avdiyivka, it will be stormed until they have enough strength and resources , and unfortunately, their human potential is enormously large, and for the family, for putin , it will be too great and even worse for what they died, are dying and will die for. mr. peter, did i understand you correctly, you are saying that after capturing avdiyvka, putin can announce the end, whether it is the achievement of the goals of the so-called special military operation, or does this mean that after avdiyvka there may be a certain an operational pause at the front, and russian troops will attack others less. position, i am correcting my position, not avdiivka, but to the whole of donetsk region and the whole of luhansk region, from here, after that, how will they leave, or will they leave, the questions are very big on the administrative borders of these two regions, i will remind you once again, the case of belli,

then about the reason for the war was precisely the recognition of the lpr and dpr, and in the end, this is my opinion, it does not mean that i am absolutely right, uh, well , returning to the report of the institute for the study of war, there the analysts write that literally, i i will quote, the attack of rs. over the past week does not directly threaten ukrainian forces and for the most part does not affect russia's efforts to seize avdiivka, but simply extends the front line. at the same time, earlier they talked about trying to surround avdiivka, does this mean that the goals have changed and that this expansion of the front gives the russian army? but it gives them a few hundred meters of movement forward, for them, in their understanding, this is already a victory. let's not forget that the four regions are included in the composition of the russian federation as such, they cannot depart from it of this narrative, and before you started talking with you, you brought up a very interesting phrase in the part of their losses, and i would like to. it can be analyzed a little using the example of the first six

days of the war, because they were the most spectacular, during the first six days of the war, the russians lost more than 500 people killed. if we multiply this number by three, because that is how many wounded there are, we have a good 15,000, we have lost more than 130 tanks, and this is a full-time tank brigade of 94 units, we have lost more than 250 armored combat vehicles. the staff brigade is 102 units, and lost more than 200 artillery barrels, the full-time brigade is 72 units, a full-blooded division , in fact, much more, this is for the first six days of fighting, now those losses are much more, and it has advanced several hundred kilometers, the mechanized regiment must break through the battle tactical order , it is 3 km wide and 3.5 km deep, that is, things are not going the way they would like, however, i will emphasize, for the second time, there is an order, they will do everything possible to make it...' well about the environment in general now is incorrect to speak, let's look at the map from the conditionally

steppe to the north for several tens of kilometers, if not more. ugh. mr. peter, you mentioned that not only donetsk region, luhansk region, russia allegedly included two more regions in its composition, even wrote it into the constitution, and the institute for the study of war also mentioned the left bank of kherson region, also in its last report, that there the russian troops actually recognized the vulnerability of their land lines of communication and the impossibility of resisting the offensive. mfa but the current weather conditions, how they affect the the ability of the armed forces to continue these tactical operations on the left bank of the dnieper and the kherson region. in general, what does this weather mean for the front? well, in a strategic sense , the one who is on the defensive, the bad weather plays into his hand more, because being in the trenches, especially if you are well equipped, have warm clothes, and the enemy has normal logistics. which comes much harder, whether the occasion in

the general sense will influence, unequivocally, yes, especially when the soil is really wet. let me remind you that nato heavy tanks are 57, starts at 75 tons and ends as challenger 2, these are very heavy machines, and the m2, bradley is a very good infantry fighting vehicle, starts at 200 tons and ends at 20 tons, of course some soviet russian equipment. that tanks are 36-43, ptrb within 10-12, but really , if the soil gets a lot of moisture , no one will be able to move, we enter into counter-battery duels, we enter into endless artillery shafts, the truth is that there is some difference in contrast to the past in the winter, we have had our fill of relatively light armored vehicles, i have i mean armored cars, such as the senator, kipri, vab, m11, 17 and many others, they are up to 5 tons and what part they

will be able to move, plus we have changed the philosophy of destroying artillery, up to 50%, do we destroy artillery now with drones, and here too there may be changes, because we understand that the fog or rain also does not allow the full use of such weapons. in my opinion, we are entering a repeat phase that was already last winter, which i personally call a strategic fire balance, more accurate dynamics and better in that. whose the fighter will be better protected from the cold, by the way, the bad weather in the occupied crimea has already been called the storm of the century, let's take a look at this element, on the peninsula, and then i will ask a question, the star beach beach, no, i didn't see it,

there was a cafe here, there were quite a few cafes. but you know, the problem is that some telegram channels, they started spreading information that the storm that covered ukraine, the occupied crimea, destroyed the trenches on the beaches, allegedly dug by the russian military in case of an amphibious operation from

black sea, and can this be true, that is, what is the point of trenches made of sand, which are easily destroyed by waves? well, there is still a certain meaning, because when a landing is taking place, any engineering structure, any fold of the terrain, any dug and dug trench, it is still better than conditionally accepting the enemy on the feet in the bayonet, forgive me maybe for such a metaphor, but apart from this moment, and it's a good thing that everything broke down there, because when the sea calms down sooner or later, some point irritating operations, i emphasize irritating, only for to psychologically eliminate the enemy. out of balance only in order to divert some part of the forces and means from the main front, i think there will be progress in this direction already, but there are still two very important points, the first is missile carriers, say, heavy frigates of the admiral makaro class or small

missile ships of the buyan m class, karapurt or vasiliy bykov, all this equipment can have up to eight missiles in 3-m14 caliber launchers, and when the sea is agitated... and with such gigantic waves, it is precisely this component of the missile, missile weapons will not be used, and we understand that it is not just an army fighting an army, a nation fighting a nation. the russians have made it their mission to wipe us out completely as a people, there can be no doubt about that, and if so , any natural disaster that will put pressure on their wallets, put pressure on their budget, is welcome, welcome and welcome again, because it is mandatory. will disrupt some kind of social stability and introduce some moments of tension in the russian society itself, so maybe i'm being ironic somewhere, the more they are flooded and flooded, the better for us, well, actually , i wanted to ask you about how the weather conditions in crimea will affect the military capabilities

of the russian army, you have already mentioned a little about missiles, missiles of the nation, which will not be able to to launch missiles so actively, but the air force is already saying that it will bet more... russia this winter on drones, what about drones, what kind of weather prevents drones from being launched? well, if there are gusty winds, hailstorms and rains, then of course, it will be much more difficult to do everything, but drones can communicate with satellites, of course it can be jammed, but they will be able to move by radio beam even in relatively bad weather, this also applies to cruise missiles, because there is such a thing as the inertial system, there in this system lays . a lot of variables of all kinds of different parameters, speed, angles, checking the terrain and so on and so on , even in bad weather, realizing that the missile is launched at very long distances, very high and maybe, say, the same x-47 dagger goes to the striking position from a height

somewhere even 20 km, it is a lot, but if the weather is already very bad, such as it is conditionally in crimea, then there will be a certain obstacle to this technique. ugh. well, but here i can’t help but mention the ministry of defense of britain, here they write about the fact that theoretically the production of tanks in russia can increase to 200 per year and they mention that the expenses for the military-industrial complex of the russian federation in the budget for next year for 2024, grow to almost a record, if translated into us dollars 117 billion. in addition to tanks, what can the russian federation quickly produce, what are the needs priority will they try to close and how fast can they do it? well, 200 tanks a year, well, that’s not serious, we destroyed 5,800 in almost two years, if my memory serves me right, well, somewhere in those figures, despite the fact that their regular tank fleet at the beginning of the war was 3,400 units, so

we have already destroyed 100% of the regular tank fleet as such, which will be produced, to our great regret, we put the mentioned missiles on the conveyor, the first one is x47 m2 kinjal 3 m14 caliber - these are long-range missiles with a target range of strikes from 2,500 to 5,000 km and the average radius of action guided aviation kh-31, kh-35, kh-59, serious missiles, because warheads from 110 kg to 300 kg are cooked, the range of the strike task is from 110 km to 300 km, this is quite a lot, but according to my... calculations , as far as i try to monitor all this very carefully, within 100-120 rockets per month they can, and unfortunately for the folding type, i emphasize the folding type, that is, they cannot you... produce your own gasoline two-stroke engine, they put

shaheda 131, 136 or whatever they call them on the conveyor, geranium-2, but here they have some success, they will not be able to build full-fledged, serious, high-quality artillery, say, like the 2.19 or something newer, 2s35 confederation or 2s34 host, in a strategic sense they will be approaching a technological collapse , but these are not months, these are years. ugh, mr. petar, let's move on to internal events, people's deputy from the servant of the people, a member of the parliamentary committee on defense, national security and intelligence, maryana bezugla said that the military leadership of ukraine should leave, this is a quote, because the commander-in-chief allegedly could not provide a design plan for 2024. at the same time, there is already a summons to the sbu with the demand to open a criminal case against nardepka herself for disclosing state secrets. i would like to ask you as a military expert, we are now abstracting from political moments, is what bezugla said really a secret, and

what risks from a military point of view can such words provoke? i will be completely frank and honest, such comments are a matter for the political class, i am a military analyst, i know for a fact that the commander- in-chief is doing his job properly and i hope that we will be able to overcome this terrible moment of disintegration. brother, because as simon petliura once said in his time, i do not see moscow nits so much as ukrainian nits , discord, our worst thing that can happen to us, and we must do everything possible to prevent this from happening, and i absolutely agree with you, but is there a state secret in what bezugla said, this moment is interesting, i gave a very, i gave a very clear answer, this is a question for the political class, not for the military, you heard, mr. peter, i thank you for joining to the air, petro chernyk, a military expert was with us on... in

direct communication. thank you. therefore, maryana bezugla, the deputy head of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on national security, defense and intelligence, stated that the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine , valery zaluzhny, did not provide a war plan for the next year, and therefore, as bezugla stated, the military leadership of ukraine has resign. according to her, this problem was growing even in the summer, both at rate meetings and in parliament during planning. budget for 2024, according to her, again the commander-in-chief could not provide a plan for the next year. yes, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces was unable to provide a plan for 2024, neither large nor small, neither asymmetric nor symmetrical, the military simply said that they need to take away at least 2,000 citizens per month. we asked what to plan for, as you see it: the war, why the creation of a brigade, and not to the staffing of existing ones, how much will a brigade, a new brigade, cost? these are still

new headquarters, what about combat units, whether to lay down funds for rotation and demobilization, what about training, what about rotations, why is the purchase of turnstiles not planned at all in 2024 , for example, this discussion was not public, but the tension was growing and now the situation is such that if the military leadership does not... can provide any plan for 2024, all their proposals for mobilization boil down to the fact that more people are needed without any proposal to change the system of the armed forces, then this leadership must go. the statement of maryana bezoglai provoked a flurry of discussions among the military and politicians, so the pro-european faction called to exclude bezugla from the defense and intelligence committee. at the same time , there was no official position of the pro-government faction of the servant of the people regarding the statement of bezuglya. there was also no reaction from the president's office.

it is also worth noting that maryana bezugla has not criticized the country's military leadership for the first time, but she called for their resignation for the first time. look at the reactions of military and political commentators on social networks. if maryana bezugla knows the meaning of what she is saying, then she is committing a crime under the section the first article 32. of the criminal code: disclosure of information constituting a state secret by a person to whom this information was entrusted or became known in connection with the performance of official duties. if the bezugla does not know what she is saying, but she is speaking, then she is committing the crime provided for in article 259 of the criminal code, knowingly false information about the threat to the safety of citizens. i ask the security service of ukraine to consider this as an official statement about a crime. a public attack on the commander-in-chief of the armed forces in wartime is a crime, the deputy has a question, you have closed committee meetings in a protected

perimeter. call the representatives of the general administration, ask, you have the right. facebook is not the place to discuss military plans. of course, you can rush to maryana, but there is one thing, but since the deputies are bringing military issues to the public, i also want to understand this, i am not talking about the plan of the military, i am about providing for the army, as a dilettante in military affairs, i have but with experience in construction and creation of factories, the question arises, and who and how submits applications to the budget, for example for 2020, someone from the general staff form these needs, excavate and concrete here and there, ensure the supply of drones, so many, so many pickups. bezugla was not distinguished by prudence even in peacetime, in wartime the roof generally went off. the arrogance of this young woman can have only one explanation: she is fed, played along, covered and used

by those who want to demolish the top command. i will not be wrong if i assume that these are the same characters who used the deputy during the wagner case, on the eve of the full scale. deputy of the verkhovna rada from the sluga party maryana bezugla called on the people to resign the country's military leadership. this is a very dangerous step in a situation where unity is the main condition not only for victory, but also for the very survival of the state. solomiya bobrovska, people's deputy from the faction of the votes of members of the committee. naz security defense, intelligence, joins the air. salami, good evening. glory to ukraine! glory to the heroes. these are the questions that mrs. bezugla voiced, as those to which there is allegedly no answer. you put them to the commander-in-chief at meetings the committee, and in general, which points voiced by her are rational, in your opinion. well, first of all, we definitely ask this question and ask it regularly to the representatives

of the general staff at the committee or those who come to our meetings. groups, of course it is discussed, we of course understand, and we know the numbers and, regarding the failure of mobilization, which we lack people today until the end of the year, in particular, we often solve the common question of how to improve mobilization, how to find, how to reform the approach to mobilization, how to attract the largest broad sections of the population to the national resistance, in fact, where the whole society belongs, and there is a military and, er, and civilian component, and in fact , it is quite strange for me to read from maryana that for her these questions are there, the answers to the questions are unknown, they are - first of all, these problems are not new, they have been problematic for the last 33 years, and the issue is obviously difficult to move somewhere, but on the other hand, they, like any systemic thing in the state, cannot be done in a day, a day,

or a month or two, and it's strange for me to read such things. 20 months of full-scale war, at a time when the tension in society is extremely high, there is direct political interference in the military command, military leadership, and unfortunately, we have been observing these public and such jumps from the side of the political leadership of the state to the side of the general staff and i really wanted the commander-in-chief, i really wanted the minimum use of deputies, any other activists, people, or speakers, in particular the office of the president, if there is a task to change the commanders, or the commander-in-chief, it was communicated directly directly by the president, if such, especially if it is within his competence , we remember how we removed the commander of the special operations forces of an unknown person, as well as the commander-in-chief's team, and how later

we discussed for a week about the possible removal of other commanders, one of them , was removed, but i repeat once again that all these issues are in the process of being solved, in the process of communication , in the process of finding solutions, and well, we do not have other people, and another society, we work with those with whom we are, i am here until i speak about myself and about people's deputies, about society, which is quite complex today, during martial law and is already disillusioned and demoralized in part, including, or not least, by the fueling of such... socially resonant events, especially when once again i want to emphasize that the intensity on the front from the kupin direction to the kherson direction is extremely high, and this is probably the first time in a year, the intensity of the fighting is such that we meet dozens of dead people every day in our regions, well, this is not the time for quarrels and clarifying public