[000:00:00;00] was used and whether it was actually used, because the spectrum of such poisons, heavy metals, is quite wide, and uh, the spectrum of toxic doses of these drugs is also quite wide, uh, let's say, except for the well-known ones, which are there. .. there, well, i don’t know, muscia, there, barium, whether there is mercury, or bismuth , it is quite possible to use there, there are salts, let’s say there, whether there is some technetium there, well, that’s it, what, what even , i have not heard of it at all, but when exactly these heavy metals are used for poison, then what is the question, once, why

namely... heavy metals, because we know that the russians have a large arsenal of weapons, the same newcomer is mentioned, yes conditional, but in what situations would it be more convenient for them to use these heavy metals? well, let's say, if necessary, let's say that the action of this poison is so prolonged, that is, that it does not work there immediately, not there for... one there two minutes or hours, a little delayed there, so that the symptoms of poisoning appear there the next day or maybe next week, well, in general,

heavy metals are used in forensics obviously, when it is necessary to cause acute poisoning in the victim, i.e. immediately, but chronic, i.e., most often these poisons enter the body, several times, er, in several doses, constantly, for a period of, say, a week or even month, well, there were such cases, in my practice, when a person was gradually poisoned, if the poisoning occurs once, then i do not see the point of using salts of heavy metals instead of some other more effective poisons of organic origin, that is, salts, heavy metals, they appear in the body very easily, mr. volodymyr, unfortunately for you , unfortunately the picture has disappeared, but we heard the main thing, probably the main thing, is now to wish ms.

marina budanova good health, that she really recovers, whatever the reason of this poisoning, and we are waiting for additional data from the main intelligence agency from the investigators dealing with this case, volodymyr sarkisian, a chemist-toxicologist, was on the air with us, and then we will talk about the situation at the zaporizhia nuclear power plant, which was occupied by the russian military the day before with ac, was on the verge of another blackout for almost the whole day. this is stated in the press service of energo. atoma, let's talk about what is happening at the occupied nuclear power plant with oleg korikov, who is the acting head of the regulatory state. mr. oleg, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, congratulations, glory to the heroes and death to the enemies. let's talk about what is happening now at the armed forces, i am sure that you are monitoring the situation, that you know how

dangerous the situation is. ugh. thanks for. question, so it happened in our country, well, as you know, the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is under occupation, and currently zaporizhzhia is supplied with electricity from the energy system of ukraine. let me remind you that each nuclear power plant produces electricity in normal mode and consumes part of this electricity for its own needs. one more very important piece of information about the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which means, as we previously informed, er, the occupiers turned zas into a de facto military base, production facilities the premises are used to shelter explosive weapons of military equipment, and accordingly it is also a repair base, there the production premises with lifting equipment are used for repairs, meaning military equipment, weapons and so on, we previously reported that including

the active system of fire, it means that they find their shelter in the production premises of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, and with the elegras , say it like that, the ugly birds, this is already a huge industrial zone, zapovist, not only nuclear power stations, there are also a number of auxiliary from production and enterprises, here and now, audacious, let's say, such actions of the occupiers, they crossed all, let's say, borders, if you can say so, and even magad, which is constantly at the zaporizhia nuclear power plant, heard how exactly the jet system works of the remaining fire from the territory adjacent to zaporizhia and, accordingly, has already reported about it twice, so, accordingly, in the reports, in the announcements, in the reports of the magad, it has nothing

to do with what you say and what we talked about earlier, it is possible say one thing is that while the occupiers keep control over, unfortunately, the danger remains, and we see that, unfortunately, the situation is very far from... it was oleg korikov, the acting head of regulation. thanks for this inclusion. we go further. the russian occupiers are preparing new lists of ukrainian children for their deportation from the occupied territories of ukraine. this is reported by the center of national resistance. what is happening with this and to what extent is the danger really looming for ukrainian children in the occupation. kateryna rashevska, lawyer of the regional center for human rights. he will tell us now. mrs. kateryna. congratulations. thank you for joining us. tell us what is happening with our children there, are the occupiers really preparing these new lists for the deportation of young ukrainians to the territory of the russian federation? i want to emphasize that in fact the deportation

never stopped, that is, the russians actually, even from the moment before the start of the full-scale invasion in 2015, deported ukrainian children, first from crimea, then from occupied donbas. and now they are transported from the newly occupied territories, from kherson region, zaporozhye region. initially, these were during the summer period, mostly temporary tours, so-called re-education tours, to various camps, our organization documented more than 9,500 such removals, both on the territory of the russian federation and on the territory of, for example, the republic of belarus. unfortunately, the russian federation refuses to provide access to any processes of movement of ukrainian children, as well as consistently refuses to provide their lists, and itself, for example, lavrov, brazenly lies to the states within the united nations organization, saying that they have some public lists there, and you can familiarize yourself with them, so we will now try to use the mechanism of the special representative

of the un secretary general on children and armed conflicts, because she was admitted once upon a time on the territory of the russian federation, so it could also monitor deported and forcibly displaced minors, and we are also trying to launch unicef and the people's committee of the red cross, this is their mandate, they are directly authorized to monitor the whereabouts of ukrainian children, but unfortunately, without ukraine itself, without its will and without decisive steps regarding the return of ukrainian children, we can only monitor, but in reality we never solve the problem, is there a possibility to somehow involve volunteers in the territory of the russian federation, as in isolated cases, it sometimes worked earlier, when children were returned to their parents, i would like to. to emphasize that , unfortunately, for these people, it is dangerous to cooperate with us, to help us, to say where the children are, to reveal their personal data, because there have already been cases when the russian federation kidnapped these people, subjected them to torture, illegally detained them, or threatened them

with various criminal proceedings, so yes, there are such persons who are trying to help us, but the russian federation is also trying to cover up this movement and prevent the return of ukrainian children. katerina, thank you very much and i hope that this huge problem will be solved, although it is very difficult at the moment. kateryna rashevska, a lawyer at the regional human rights center, was with us live chevrons approaching victory. step by step, they move from one danger to another, step by step, they liberate our

land from invisible death, fields and forests, homes that have been visited by evil, without sappers, life will not return here, without the courage and dedication of these people, we we will not return home. we thank the sappers of the state emergency service of ukraine for your work and our safety. sonechka, how are you, are you scared now? we're not even close at school, you know what i do when i'm nervous, remember or take things in my hands my symbol of strength, it can be anything, a pebble, a memory, a photo on the phone , i look at it, feel how it feels to the touch, or remember everything to the smallest detail, and i feel better, i relax, and even breathing becomes easier , do like dad and mom, and it will be easier, on the website hawaario.com, caring people from the mental health program you, their friends from unicef have collected tips on how to help yourself and

your child cope with stress. next to me is khadzhi bey's military officer yulian honcharenko. mr. yulin, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. i congratulate you, heroes glory. first of all, tell us about yourself, who were you in civilian life, and how did you join the defense forces? well, in civilian life, i am a doctor, with 25 years of experience in the regional medical and physical culture dispensary as a masseur and chiropractor, in addition to that , 10 years of private practice, but when the full-scale war began, questions did not become questions for me, it was not difficult that in making the decision that i will defend my native city, i will defend ukraine, and what

happened happened, i came to the assembly line, sent to the address, it turned out to be the 122nd brigade of the territorial defense of odesa, they heard that come on in, and for a month i was there as a volunteer, because at the moment there was something bureaucratic, some issues were being resolved, not very quickly, but later again turned to the military and enlisted: already in the ranks of the national guard, he got into a unit in his unit. here is khadzhibey's engineering and sapper division, tell us about its combat path? engineer-seper e-e platoon khadzhibey, this is a very young, young unit. eh, the date of our birth coincided with the day of independence of ukraine, although those who serve with us, those who joined us and joined us in the same formation, these are all military personnel

who have a very different combat path, experience and very experienced uh, soldiers who can, can teach everything, uh, the unit does what sappers always do, that is to be ahead of the first, that is, you have to make passages for the vanguard, for those who pass first. demining enemy fields, neutralizing enemy engineering barriers, in order to be able to pass our, our military, and be behind and clean up, neutralize what remains dangerous so that peaceful life can return to this territory, this is about when you are ahead of the military, we now hear a lot about that total

mining that our ukrainian armed forces faced in the zaporizhzhia region, but if i'm not mistaken, our military faced something similar, but on a smaller scale , last year, during the battles in the mykolaiv and kherson regions, so tell me what your the unit encountered then, first of all, i would not be so sure about the scale of mines, because here it depends more on the time, the time that these territories... were under occupation, more time, more mined territories, more carefully mined e -e territory, well, and very big difficulties er, is that now we see how, after all , more sophisticated, more complicated issues of mining are solved, er, a lot of... mines are installed in such a way that they have

elements directed precisely against the sapper, who has to defuse this mine, here are mine traps, here are the elements of decontamination , here is the demining of possible shelters that can be used by demining groups during the decontamination of explosively dangerous objects or mines, so here it is ... collide, and the kherson region is very polluted, well, like the whole of ukraine in general, now we are at the forefront. city ​​in the world for contamination by mines, explosives, and explosive objects. but then last year, during the fighting and the offensive operation to release the rights, then too was there such total mining, what did you face then?

you know, the most difficult thing then, most likely, it would be necessary to say that these were positions that were...' vacated positions where the enemy was standing, these are trenches, these are dugouts, it is all so heavily littered with metal objects of some kind, shell casings , there are some, well, anything metal, and the metal detector, mine detectors, unfortunately, there are very often completely powerless, and here the sapper has to go through it all with his hands, sort through everything, so it looks like this, now the unit, i am i understand, he is engaged in the cleaning of the de-occupied kherson region, can you tell me more about it, i don’t know how such a day of the unit is structured, how it goes, we perform tasks, in general

, in the area for which the southern southern administration is responsible, so it can be not only the kherson region, and well, let's say, from izmail to zaporizhzhia, although the kherson region, of course , is more, and this, it will be determined directly on the passage section, the passage of the territory, a check, a thorough check, that is, it is necessary to check literally every square centimeter, the territory, as it is , is there any information on how many mines your unit has already cleared... this question, i am afraid, may remain unanswered, why, because constant shelling continues, and the area that has already been cleared

, passed, it is after the next shelling, additional explosions appear on it again, unexploded mines and bombs, and which, including this remote mining, also takes place, so it is difficult to answer here, our platoon worked , let's say, completely cleared the territory of one from the territorial communities , which included five settlements , but you have to work and re-pass some areas there again, and you could remember, tell about one of the most difficult cases, when you had to demine the subdivision, in order to understand what they face every day, you know, the most difficult situations are when an explosive object or some unexploded ordnance

appears in a populated area, where there are people, where there are buildings nearby and so on, let's say fab 500 is an aerial bomb , which has a weight of 500 kg, which has 400 km of tnt, yes, you can imagine that, if such a thing explodes, how 10 shaheds in one place will explode at the same time, and this is the most, the most, i think, dangerous equipment, equipment is needed: now the sapper is acutely aware of the spectrum of what a sapper may need is very, very wide , here and e, optics, and night vision devices, and aviation complexes are equipped with such

optical devices, here and - means, mechanized, engineering equipment for demining, starting from the soviet ones samples, there are some trawls for tanks and so on, and including already more modern , modern samples of western, western production, but alas, as far as i heard at the last nato summits about helping ukraine, this kind of equipment was not even discussed, it is not may not worry a little, but literally on... i read it, for me it seemed very interesting news that the swiss company gcs is opening a service center for the repair and maintenance of demining equipment in ukraine, this is already hope, it is, it is already

one by one, let's say progress, let's hope that what will happen and the technique that you need to have to become a sapper, that is, i am asking here and maybe about the educational profession, maybe some character traits, first of all, if you start with such character traits, then you need to have steel nerves , one must have, one must be very attentive, and uh, one must be very responsible , yes, there is no place at all here, no, there is no room for weakness from the point of view, relaxation of personal discipline, yes, that is, there are rules that are written in blood, there are rules, if you will not be a rule. perform, then, unfortunately, it can happen

what cannot be corrected, er, the preparation of a sapper, it takes place in several stages , the basic level, this is a sapper, well, let's say, it's more of such general, general activities can be, work with engineering ammunition or explosives of some kind.. . devices that are standard, ordinary, that can be learned, already of a higher class of sappers, the training there should also last six months, eh, the biggest difficulty here is represented by improvised explosive devices, i said at the beginning of the conversation that after release all part of the right-bank kherson region, it was considered potentially mined. it's about 6,000 hectares, i'll repeat it again, but how much time does it take on average to demine one

hectare? our guys detected, in one day, detected and neutralized, up to two, 2.5 hundred explosive objects, yes, and mines and some projectiles and so on, how quickly demining takes place. well, here, here you can simply, simply try to calculate mathematically, a passage by one, a sapper, a lane that a sapper passes, let's say with a metal detector, with a mine detector, it's 120-150 at most, if he can work standing, yes at full height, but sometimes there are situations when we cannot do this, we have to do it lying down, then such a lane is narrowed to a maximum of one meter and

the speed of advancement well is quite small, so there is a lot of time here, that is, the sapper can move the entire strip of 120-150 cm , that is, during the day, how much, what length will it be, well , depending on how polluted the territory is, because there are many... metal , as already said, yes, if these are some old positions, where, where were the people who littered, who dumped there, the number of shell casings of some metal fragments, even just the foil from a pack of papyrus there, it, it will trigger the metal detector and all this must be checked, so the more pollution, the lower the speed movement, it can be a hundred meters in a whole day, or it can be even less, but it happens that we can walk

a few kilometers there, from the experience of what you are currently seeing in the kherson region, how long do you think it will take to demine kherson region, now we are talking about de-occupied communities, let's say this, i was afraid of this question, why, because, as i said , re-contamination of these territories is constantly happening, so how everything will depend on how strongly everything will be repeated . mr. yulina, thank you very much for this conversation, let me remind you that we spoke with yulian goncharenko, a military officer of the khadzhibey engineering and sapper unit, and now for a visual demonstration, yulian's colleague artem will show what mine danger means.

most frequent in kherson region. during during demining, there are anti-personnel mines of the ozm series, specifically this ozm72, mines of the mon series, most often mon 50, mon 90 also happens, 95% of anti-tank mines of the tm series, and a lot of ammunition, shells, rpg shots and just a lot. the most difficult thing is to carry out demining when there is an anti-tank mine near the houses, residential buildings or other objects , there is one or several cluster bombs near it, it must be done so carefully that it does not explode, and also under the tm-62 mine, may be additional

mina surprise of the ms series, jr. and so on, let's take an example, here's the environment, here's a piece of terrain, let's look there, say , there's nothing, everything's fine, no danger, but look carefully, and here we have tm-62 anti-tank mines, with an mvch-62 leveler . let's take it further, let's see, this is what distracts us a little, and here is

the same tm-62 anti-tank mine. everything seems to be as clean, everything is beautiful, but here is an ozm72 mine, there is a stretch somewhere, it hit 25 m in a radius, it caused a disaster, please pay attention to the markings. alternative definition minefields and explosive objects, for example, red white-red tape, red tape, red color of grass, trees, branches, etc., don't go where you don't need to, where there is potential danger, and if you

saw something dangerous, some i will throw out a dangerous item, please competent services and let them work and do their job. chevrons approaching victory. ukrainian gives freedom. even the letters hide our determination and defiance. who else puts not just a dot over i, but two dots over i. ukrainian, the language of the free. kitty, how are you?

i think you are anxious. and we are not close at school either. you know what i do. moments, an exercise that always helps me, it's easy to remember, i run the finger of one hand around the palm of the other hand, as if circling it with a pencil, i lead the finger up and slowly inhale, i lead it down and slowly exhale, do like dad and calm will return. on the website hawario.com, courageous people from the mental health program and their friends from unicef have collected tips on how to help yourself and your child in order to get goodies under the pillow will appear on time. on december 6, we celebrate