ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi. the guest of our broadcast in these moments of evgendyka is expert internationalist, veteran scholar batalnu aidar. i welcome you. good morning. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. thank you for finding the opportunity to join. there are many topics that i would like to discuss with you and hear your opinion on this matter. well, for example, the russian media now write that the occupying head of the kherson region, saldo, allegedly announced his intentions to recapture the liberated kherson. and then, he says, there will be mykolaiv and odesa. how are you can you comment on these words and such intentions in general, they may be realists, to be honest, i do not understand at all what to comment here, well, salda said, well, let him win ideas, well, go ahead, i want to see comrade salda with a machine gun in his hands, who is sailing the helm, who swims across the dnieper and storms kherson, if we speak seriously, then in fact, there is no threat of moving the orcs to the right bank, in principle, there is no question about it, but the right dnieper is wonderful.

in general, the border and keeping its high right bank is, frankly, still for me it remains a mystery why they, why and how they were allowed to the right bank, i use the very word they were allowed, for what reasons, i do not know, but why, how they were allowed last spring to the right bank, this is a mystery to me, and the fact that at the moment they will return there, they have no chance, this is quite obvious to me, at the moment, let's put it this way , the question is completely different, whether they will still succeed in knocking out ours from the left bank of kherson, and whether or not they will succeed in knocking out , to collapse our poltzdarm on the left bank of the kherson region, for now they have gathered for this a special strike group , to be honest, the decisive battles were supposed to start in a day or two, but the weather, judging by everything, delayed them a little, about this strike group, even their own... the kors

write that it is a gathering pasosinky, that is, they did not have any ready, large, powerful unit left that could be thrown there, like even some division or brigade of one there, they try to collect a little bit from everywhere, but in absolute terms, this is the group that they collected, it is approximately tenfold exceeds the number of our defenders, who are currently holding on to nothing, and as we have repeatedly... convinced ourselves during the war, the number of people is very important, especially now there in the conditions of the left-bank kherson region, we just established ourselves there, we just broke in there, it can be said, of course, that there was no possibility at any time to make any fortifications , that is, it will be battles in what is called a clear field, so for now we are keeping our fists for our defenders there, because from this we will either succeed in getting this bridgehead, or

prove... will roll back to our right bank, well, a lot depends on this, no wonder, we speak so carefully and correctly about the battles on the left bank, the dnieper, in the same russian warships, the battles in this direction are officially called the kherson-crimean battle sent, that is, there is actually the price of digging, but if the bridgehead is held now, when they make a desperate attempt to literally destroy it, then they open it up... these are serious prospects, if now they still throw us back to the right bank, and i this i don't rule it out, because for them it is a matter of survival, and they will throw all the reserves they can find at it, then in this case we will be able to return there again no earlier than spring. mr. iven, i would also like to dwell with you on the topic that the western press is actively discussing, this is the topic of mobilization in ukraine, younger soldiers aged 18-24, whom ukraine needs, well, the western press writes about this in particular, in today's conditions, in today's realities. it's possible? i'll start with whether it's

necessary, actually, you voiced the age range 18-24, then these are precisely those soldiers whom i, as a company commander, would not want to lead into battle, but fighting with children is both a huge responsibility and, let's say, so-so effectiveness, but i believe that we are not yet in that critical situation, to actually call up 18-year-olds, but we don't have... there is no such need, no benefit from this, but now you have on the screen just er, well, i would say ideal warriors, ideal the age of a fighter is 25, 30, 35, these are already grown men, these are no longer children, but, excuse me, 18-2-year-olds of the current generation, this is, by and large, this is almost teenagers, that is, 30-year-old men, they are already psychologically mature, but they are still physically healthy, these are the bodies that are capable of

bearing the burden of war, because what is currently fighting is mainly the generation of 50 plus, this was at the beginning of the war , it was very noble that the older generation covered the young, let them study there , let them multiply there later, excuse me, they are improving the demography of ukraine, building the future, but in the case of a protracted war, unfortunately, this does not work, fifty-year-olds simply worn out in war very quickly, there are purely physical opportunities that you cannot jump over, but this does not mean that we need 18-year-old children, but we have a very under-represented one, this is the 30 plus generation, so we must deal with it, at least for a start, cancel it , postponement of the second higher education. because a lot of just 30-40-year-old men for some reason suddenly remembered that they need another specialty, by the way, i'm not saying that they must all avoid it, maybe someone really came to it naturally, but excuse me, it's a luxury, which can be postponed for after the war, i also have a big question, i walk the streets of kyiv, and

a question arises in my mind, do we have a terrible criminal situation, do bandits cut corners at every step, well, it’s as if i don’t observe such things, and i the question arises, what do we have in peacetime, do we have soldiers? time has to be guarded by as many as 250,000 policemen, not counting the sbi, the prosecutor's office and so on , the tax police there, could we do, for example, in wartime with half the number of law enforcement officers, all these people who just regularly undergo physical education they pass physical training, and all of them have passed the medical examination, that is, they are definitely all suitable , and in the end, like everyone, they are trained in the possession of weapons, at least in basic terms, so why couldn’t we now strengthen our army with these people, and so on, i believe that we have more than enough of such, let's say reserves, uncalled-for categories of citizens. mr. yevgeny , this week the ukrainian government is allegedly planning to change the approach to conscription, as reported by the guardian, what do

you think can be expected from these changes, because we know that in the parliamentary committee in particular, understand, i can tell you what in my opinion, so to speak from the point of view of a veteran, what should be done? and since all the discussions about it in the government were very closed, what they are planning , i don't know, i just want to clarify, i, i would like to hope that the steps that the government will take, they will be correlated with what now it is being actively discussed in society itself, i.e., for example, that serious steps will be taken to remobilize, i.e. to select those categories of citizens, who for some reason are not fighting at the moment and at the same time, after the demobilization of those who have already won back one and a half, it will soon be two years, and accordingly physically and mentally, are already overexhausted and in need of renewal, it seems to me that these two things must be done exactly at the same time,

and in particular, what is the key question for me, will the services introduce a deadline, even in wartime, if it is introduced, it will greatly improve the motivation of people to go and mobilize, because after all, to go and win back a year or even... and if he survived , to return home, because you have someone another will replace who sat behind you for a year or two , that's one story, but buying a one-way ticket with the idea that, well, if we win in a year, that's fine, but if in 10 years your problems are, well, that's quite another history, i think that the very fact that we do not yet have a maximum term of service is very demotivating to mobilize, sir , we still have a minute to finish, from your point of view, the term of demobilization should be one year, one and a half, 36 months. various figures have been heard during these last two weeks, in particular three there and from the representatives of the parliamentary committee, from the western media, from the military, in your opinion, precisely for demobilization , which period, which time is permissible in order to change, to be honest, to determine this precisely now, we need to have more information,

than i have, that is, here you have to sit and count when introducing one of these terms, how many people you have to send home literally within the next six months, accordingly, how many have to be recruited, that is, here there is a purely taka in general, then, let’s say, in a normal way, of course , i would like to it was possible to introduce a term of one and a half years, but i am afraid that it is unrealistic, i think that in wartime, well, at least two, we, but here, here, what is more important is not even what this term will be, even god forbid three years , but it is important for him to appear , so that it is the end, thank you, thank you for your expert analysis, evgeny dyky, expert internationalist, scientist, veteran of the aidargist battalion of our broadcast, we talked about the latest news, in particular, regarding mobilization and demobilization. ukraine, as well as western media statements about how things will develop events at the front. this is the freedom of the mornings. later in our broadcast you will be able to see the following. russia has suspended prisoner exchanges, they say, to create the impression that the ukrainian authorities

are not working on this issue. this is said in the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war. how big is the risk of stopping the process of exchanging prisoners, let's talk. budanov's signal. or to the entire kyiv authorities, who and what is behind the poisoning of the wife of the head of ukrainian intelligence, as stated in the main intelligence office, and whether there is a danger to other ukrainian officials. i remind you to subscribe to the youtube channel of radio svoboda, it is important so that you see our videos constantly, and we stay in touch with you. since august of this year, russia has suspended the exchange of prisoners of war, thus trying to influence ukrainian society and create the impression that the authorities in ukraine are not working on this issue. this was stated by the representative of the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war in vyskovo, petro yatsenko, in an interview with the public. he notes that ukraine is ready to dialogue and puts forth. certain proposals to the russian side and sent an open letter on behalf of the secretary of the coordination staff

, general dmytro usov, urging them to fulfill the agreements. it makes no sense for ukraine to keep russian prisoners - says yatsenko. the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war does not give exact figures, but according to the data of the ministry of reintegration , as of november of this year, it was possible to establish that 4,337 ukrainians are still in captivity, more than 35 are military personnel. and more than 700 people are civilians. the last exchange of prisoners took place in the summer on august 7. then ukraine returned 22 soldiers from russian captivity. commissioner for human rights dmytro lubinets reported that this was the 48th exchange that was successfully held. and since the creation of the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war , 2,598 ukrainian citizens have been returned from russian captivity. petro yatsenko, coordinator and representative of the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war. of our broadcast, i welcome you, good day, yes,

please tell me how you managed to understand what russia suspended the exchange, in fact, the way you explained why it did it, that's how it was understood, they disrupted the exchange process that was supposed to take place at some point, maybe they announced that they will not exchange anymore, that's how they explain it , and in order to understand that the process of exchanges... is suspended, it is enough to simply look at the statistics, if at the beginning of this year, we returned home, from 100 to 300, ukrainian defenders of our defenders every month, then starting from july, in fact, such returns these are units, as you rightly said, in august there was such an extreme more or less significant exchange of ours, when 22 of our defenders returned,

for now, actually, the russian side has suspended this process, although the work is constantly ongoing, the work does not stop, but we see that the will of the russian side to return its own prisoners of war and exchange them, we do not see. of this will and thus the process is suspended. mr. peter, when the next exchange was planned, the last one was in august. the next one, when it was planned for september, did not take place in november or something there was no such date of the next exchange at all? each exchange is a unique transaction, and in fact, when some exchange takes place, negotiations are held in parallel regarding the next ones, it may be, there may be negotiations not about one exchange but about several exchanges, so to say there that an exact

date is being prepared, unfortunately, we cannot, for security reasons, actually because of, for the reasons of secrecy, as well as because this is a process where two parties participate, respectively, such negotiations are ongoing, they do not stop, but we do not give specifics, therefore that this process depends not only on us. how did international organizations react, did you contact them about the fact that the russian side suspended the exchange? actually, negotiations and work on exchanges are the prerogative of the ukrainian side, international organizations help us, but this is mostly 100% our work, because according to international legislative humanitarian law, exchanges of prisoners of war are possible only after the end of hostilities, ukraine is not

going to wait and sit back until the war is over, we need our boys our girls, our defenders, now, that's why we held these talks and exchanges before the war ends, and also international organizations like the red cross, for example, they have a completely different mandate, their main obligation is to oversee compliance with the conditions, her stay in captivity, monitoring compliance with the third geneva convention, they do not actually participate in the negotiations and in the organization of exchanges, they, their function is different, but of course the international community, it sees it, it is informed, and we hope on what international pressure, both diplomatic

, political and economic, will increase because russia does not comply with any of its obligations under international humanitarian law. and in general, this process could somehow be affected by the release of the defenders of azov steel, for example from turkey, or could this history in no way affect such actions of russia? and why is russia doing this at all, suspending the exchange. this, there may be some speculation, what could have affected. the main one, you can fantasize there, or invent some reasons, actually no, that's why that we see how many russians are now in captivity, in ukraine, and we see that new receiving places are opening, how many are russian, by the way, if this is secret information , it is closed information, but

believe me, it is enough, and we are opening new places in order to keep them, and all these people, we need them, by and large , to exchange them for ours. russia , in no way, the fact that these exchanges are stopped, suspended, actually exchanges, they, it means only one thing, that, just like us, we cannot get our protectors, so does russia, russian families, and among them there are parents with many children, they have three, four, five children, and the russian authorities do not even care about their fates, do not want to see them at home, does not want to exchange them, and therefore if a stick has two ends, a stick, and this process itself, it means that here there are some other reasons

to suspend these exchanges, from your theses that we took today in the material under...' which was given before our conversation, you said that ukraine simply does not make sense to retain the russian military, is it because it observes all international norms, or because it is, for example, costly for the ukrainian budget? first of all, it makes no sense for us to keep an exchange fund, because the sooner we exchange, the less suffering our servicemen will have in captivity, because the conditions, as we know, are much worse, the international... the red cross has very limited access to the places of detention, the places of detention themselves, there are no specialized camps, unlike ukraine, we have them specialized camps, a specialized central camp, for prisoners of war in the west of ukraine, where all requirements are met and sometimes even better conditions than those stipulated

by the geneva conventions, in russia the situation is completely different, and we are always ready to exchange all russians , which are received in captivity by us, for all ukrainians who are received by russia, russia's position on this matter, ukraine expresses readiness, and russia's position, it makes no sense to receive and really to spend money on receiving them, although they work and partially cover these funds, russia's position is, as usual , twofold, i.e.... at some international platforms, in particular at the un, they use their heads of speakers to say that they comply with everything, but of course, de facto, this is absolutely not so, and we need international pressure on russia, in particular, from the international community, so that, we show, we are always

open and show the international community what we are doing, and we always ask, what is russia doing? we don't have an answer to that because they don't allow international observers, they do not allow the independent press into the detention facilities, and we see many testimonies that the conditions of reception are much worse, thank you very much for stepping in and clarifying the situation, petro yatsenko, representative of the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war, a guest of our broadcast, we talked about the fact that russia, with information from the ukrainian side, suspended the exchange of prisoners with ukraine. the fact of the poisoning of marianna, the wife of the head of the main intelligence department, kyril budanov, was officially confirmed by a representative of the main intelligence department andriy liusu. he says she was poisoned with heavy metals on the eve of the ukrainian one. babel and ukrainian pravda published several details of this incident with reference to their own sources in guru. marianna budanova is said to be undergoing a course of treatment in one of the kyiv medical institutions. the course

of treatment is already ending, she will be under observation. in addition to budanova , several employees of gur also have mild symptoms of poisoning. the intelligence did not specify how many there were. the source of rbc ukraine in gur reported that it is not known whether it was a one-time event poisoning, or were poisoned in portions for some time. are they different? we cannot establish whether the media people have the same source in gur. previously, the head of the main intelligence, kyrylo budanov, told radio svoboda in an interview that his wife lives with him in his office for security reasons, although she does not work in the main intelligence department, and since the 14th year, attempts have been made on him at least 10 times. one of the attempts took place during russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine. valery kondratyuk, head of the foreign service intelligence of ukraine in 20-20. the first guest of our broadcast, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, mr. valery, could

the russian side be involved in the poisoning of budanov’s wife and was it a signal from budanov, what do you think, if we analyze that the amount of heavy metals that today, during the tests, it was found in mrs. bodanova's body, so i want to say that it is a stone and, accordingly, mercury immediately. of two metals just excludes accidental poisoning, i.e. just proves that it was a directed action, and that in addition, the same symptoms were found in high-ranking officials who are responsible for the site itself, let's say the organization of the resistance movement on russian territory, then this already excludes any doubts that the russian special services are most likely behind this poisoning, and in this context i wanted to emphasize not only what you have already mentioned about budanov's repeated attacks and assassination attempts, but i would say that this is putin's personal revenge, for the humiliation he receives from ukraine, from

the main intelligence agency on chelvisk, kiry lambadano, and if we recall with our television viewers all the events that have taken place since the beginning of the military invasion, this includes the transfer of the war from the territory of ukraine to the territory of russia, and the repeated raids of the rdk on the territory of belgorod. district of the belhor region, but also attempts to set fire to the kremlin, which are sacred things for putin , it is clear that the russian special services are hunting today, and bodanov and his close entourage are the most desirable targets, and their goal is to destabilize the internal situation inside ukraine, because the murder of such well-known copper people will definitely not remain and will have the consequences of, let's say, a certain destabilization of the situation in ukraine. valery, i must clarify, when you name the substances with which budanov's wife was probably poisoned, and all these details , in particular about the representatives of the gur who were also poisoned, that they are responsible for the movement of oporonokuna, is this your vision, or is it your

internal data, what do you have from those ongoing investigations? and i want to note and confirm that this is not my own vision, but this is information that i receive from employees of the main directorate of intelligence, and these facts confirm that it is precisely about mishkak and about mercury and about the poisoning of not only bodanov's wife, but also other employees, and you know why it is very important to understand today, because these guys , who were also poisoned, they do not belong to, let's say, the security group, the bodanov family, that is, these people who are engaged in other areas, and they also received a similar poisoning, and this is just evidence that this is a subversive work of the russian special services why exactly was arsenic used, well, there are known cases where the russian special services were accused of using novachk, for example, why in this case it was arsenic and the other components that you mentioned, that is

, they are somehow more accessible, i don’t know how they are easier, there in sprinkle food for example, or why exactly them, use, a beginner, it requires certain, let’s say, skills and skills, why, because here it is a rather dangerous substance, and if we recall the case of scrapers, there really uses... when it used by people who were aware and there took the necessary security measures, regarding their own, such as these heavy metals, arsenic and mercury, they are, let's say, within reach, and today the enemy is trying, you know, to use all the opportunities that are in it is there in order to get to, let's say, the close circle of kirill bohdanov, and in this case i do not rule out that people were simply used in the dark, perhaps third parties, who did not even reveal that they were there. or some things, and i also want to point out that usually the organization of such terrorist acts of murder, the russian

special services proceed from what the target will be... let's say, the most vulnerable, and they study not only budanov, but also all his close entourage, and after they realized that today bodanov on sufficiently strong protection, but at the same time relatives, let's say, there are some vulnerabilities in the security protection system, then they themselves will use these things, how should the higher military and political leadership of ukraine be protected now, should additional measures be implemented security, considering this incident, and the important point, the poisoning happened earlier, why ... only now did it become known, it was leaked to the media, there from the sources of the gur, was it possible that it was necessary to not immediately report it until not all the facts will be established, but i would like to say that it is possible and immediately and so and so , why, because it has not yet been definitively clarified, and then there was a leak to the mass media, why, because the position of the gur was held there is an investigation and i want to also share with our viewers, that today, you too...

there was a desire to join such a well-known company investigating the poisoning of navalny bilinket, and they already got in touch and offered their help and support in the investigation of this poisoning. about how to secure and strengthen the security of the top military-political leadership of ukraine. what measures do you think should be taken, or do you already know what measures have been taken, if you can talk about it? look, it's very, very important to understand that at the beginning of the military invasion is very big the number of agents that was, well, let's say this, both in the ukrainian special services and in ukraine in general, russian, they were scared and generally lost contact with their curators, and the russian special services, of course , tried there today at any cost to restore this connection, and taking into account the fact that the war dragged on, and let's say so certain of them, i think that they are still russians, and by means of blackmail, it was still possible to return them, and it was precisely such agents that were mentioned by the secretary of the ranbo, oleksiy danilov,

when he said that russia has intensified its... but this is not a newly acquired agency, but the old ones who there, let's say, gave up, and now have returned, and such people can be near, let's say, the first officials of the military and political leadership of the state, so the danger is constant, and the measures that must be taken, they must be maximal, let's say this, taking into account all the challenges that are coming from the russian special services today, the russian special services, you know, are already using poisoning and political murders not only on the territory of their state, but border and based on this mine the main thing is, you know, the message is that the russian special services are terrorist organizations, and putin himself has already been recognized by the west as a terrorist, we have 30 seconds until the end, i would just like to clarify, you said that in the immediate environment of the military and political leadership could be, well, traitors, as they are called in the people, in this case, maybe you know whether there really were those people who, well, somehow informed the russian special services there about the transfer of mrs. budanova, i do not know conditionally, or

about: how in general, her life takes place in the ukrainian capital, is it currently unknown to the investigation or unknown to you? it is usually people who use information, or those assassins there, or those who carry out such attempts, they organize surveillance, and the very vulnerability at the time when they set surveillance from counter-surveillance to detect them, this is the greatest opportunity there, let's say to detect and predict in time, in order to prevent such things, and i believe that, for example, unfortunately it did not happen, and therefore there should be a detailed analysis of what happened and find out all circumstance. thank you very much, mr. valery, valery kondratyuk, head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine, a guest of our broadcast in 20-21 years, we talked about the poisoning of mrs. budanova, which was announced in the ukrainian news agency. this is svoboda ranok, thank you for being with us, subscribe to our youtube channel, see you tomorrow, take care.

congratulations, it's news time on the tv channel, kateryna shirokpoyas is working in the studio. ukrainian air defense destroyed eight drones. over dnipropetrovsk region, in particular shaheds landed in pavlograd, novomoskovsk, kryvyi rih and dnipro districts, - said the head of the regional military administration, serhiy lysak. also at night, the enemy shelled nikopol region with artillery. fortunately , no one was hurt. and in general, the air force reported 100% of destroyed shaheds. they.