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and in frosty winter and in unpredictable spring, you will always be warm, comfortable and dry. universal design, basic black color and a favorable price, only from uah 799, call. let me remind you that we are continuing to communicate with a live guest, and this is always such a celebration and joy in our studio, and with us oksana yurynets, a professor at the national university of lviv polytechnic as the head of the ukrainian delegation of the parliamentary assembly of the council of nato, excuse me, already ran like freud to the council of europe, yes, but we are waiting and maybe we already have another one of our interlocutors in contact. so myroslav chek is already with us, he is a public figure, in the past a deputy of the polish diet. mr. myroslav, congratulations, glory to ukraine? glory to the heroes, congratulations. sir myroslava, 25 km, bullying from the polish

border is no longer a matter of one greedy association of carriers who want a lot of money because they traveled to belarus and russia. in addition, russian things also worked out politically very often, this is already a matter of strategic even interests, because for the warring ukraine, this is already a year and a half, a day and a half of losses, according to the most modest calculations , and the lives of our citizens, while in poland, between, off-season, because the government that is, it is as if it is not a government, and the government that should be is not yet a government. to do, well, first of all, to inform, secondly, to reveal the essence of what is happening, and thirdly, to put pressure on the authorities, well, in poland, i will talk about poland, but i also think that the position of the ukrainian authorities

it is extremely important to solve this issue as soon as possible, because i think that today we can definitely say that it is blocking. is happening because of the irresponsible behavior of the polish authorities , who not only removed themselves from the process, but also because of what ukrainian drivers, ukrainian drivers, and ordinary people and politics, which would lead to an absolute scandal, which is the fact that the polish police control ukrainian carriers. what goods do they have for those so-called protesters , i call them so-called protesters, because there are several dozen of them at four or five checkpoints on the polish-ukrainian border, well, this is not included in the categories

of responsibility of any government and the authorities in general, how could such a lawlessness on the border be allowed to happen, i don't understand, mr. miroslav, i have a question, today it appeared from the deputy minister of agrarian policy and food of ukraine, markiyan dmytrysevych, that the polish business environment also suffers from this situation, in general, and what is the reaction of ordinary poles, i.e. businesses, while we move on, i apologize, while we move on to the polish poles, to average poles, it is necessary to tell about extraordinary poles, that is, about the government, and about the fact that the polish government absolutely criminally neglects... not only the interests of warring ukraine, but also of poland itself, well, imagine, in last year, the export of polish products to ukraine increased by 55%, this year, for three quarters, when ukraine is at war, this export increased by another 25%. ukraine took

eighth place among the countries to which polish products go, but it is to whom they cause damage, these drivers, these blockers, the organizers of this block. well, not only to ukraine, but to poland, well, where is the interest of poland here, who will benefit from this, of course, that russia will also benefit from this, in several ways, yes, that is, it has nothing to do with polish of interest, none, and the confirmation of this is the fact that yesterday's meeting, the newly appointed minister of agriculture of poland, who met with those who stand in medicine and represent one of the farmers' organizations, well, what those farmers... achieved from this meeting with minister, and they achieved several things, that there will be additional payments to the price of corn, there will be preferential loans for fuel or some other, some third party, and here is ukraine, well

, tell me how transportation to ukraine, how you need money from the polish budget, in order to, let's say you had more revenue from your products within, within. of the european union, there is an embargo on ukrainian corn, on other ukrainian grains, everything should be fine with you, because there is no longer this ukrainian competition, yes, that is... in fact, this is all politics, crude politics, which is calculated to , that there is an inter-government in poland, in the carriers, these organizers, i apologize, this is wrong, they said that they are waiting for the tusk government, well they, and they do not take into account at all that on december 4 the meeting of the european council will be held in of transport affairs, in which this issue will be resolved at the level of the european union, because the addressee, the addressee of all of you, and the main one, to attract licenses , as was the case until february 24, for the transportation

of goods by ukrainian carriers from ukraine and to ukraine, is the european union and the polish government, who took part in these decisions, not ukrainian, the ukrainian authorities, who could only ask that the european union help during this terrible war against ukraine, who all understand that as ukraine falls, the next targets will be the baltic countries, poland and the czech republic, as president biden said that here, what is not yet known here, besides, the organizer of this so-called protest, whether in fact, it is blocking the absolute confederation, which is a pro-russian force, which will go its organizers are going to myroslav, this is the most important point, you said, firstly, their small number, and secondly, you emphasize once again that it is necessary to look at who is behind them... i want ms. oksana to start this analysis, mr. myroslav, you will continue, because, well, there

is no place to put a stamp and stigmas, so on confederation of freedom and independence, scant support, maximum of burned deputies who traveled around the occupied territories, legitimized the occupation of crimea, we remember, and others who are now all the time the face of this so-called blockade, it is also the same. where is the security service of the republic of poland, why does the security service not work on them? and you are right, in fact , their security service is called in poland in a different way, but i will tell you that this will be a problem now, for us it is at the border, but it will be an internal problem in the future for of our neighbors, this is 100%, because everyone saw it, because if we are talking about there legal associations, carriers and everything else, they do not support all this here as well... mr. myroslav was right when he said that it reaches the point of absurdity,

because i go once a week twice once every two weeks with my daughter who is also getting her phd at the university of warsaw, i'll tell you, i 've been seeing this train from this side for two weeks now, our drivers, and it was very it's unfortunate, because actually a group of people, five or six people on this border from rava ruska, a actually have permission, if under the cover of the police, to open our buses, the delegation that was supposed to go, for example, there is our ukrainian ukrainian team fund, we just told her not to go now, because we feel sorry for the people who will be standing at the border for five or six days , who carry humanitarian aid for the ground troops, for kindergartens, schools there, in ukraine, that is, we understand that this is really what the interlocutor says, that this is a system of weakening our security, and now it is not up to our military, respectively the necessary help, but these are internal issues that will have to be resolved, but they are deputies of the parliament, that is, the sejm within the sejm, part of them, let's say, to this other part, which, we hope, after the arrival of tusk, will become oppositional, they

will tregerite this situation further in the diet, and these will be the next steps of working out, you rightly note, we can see where the ears are dying, and understanding a little more globally that surely these elections did not do without eh, such, well, not very good or with the smell of resources , which could go with of the russian federation, and now in connection with the defeat, in fact, there is practice in a different way. and you are making this whole story at the borders a nightmare, moreover, confirming that , allegedly, we are not acting according to european rules, we are deviating from european laws, although we understand that we have to behave decently, because we are in the coalition, the european union and we still claim and, i'm not talking about us, but about our neighbor poland, they claim a large part of the resource they received, and ukraine is definitely in favor of having everything in poland it's cool to trade with it, and poland has great potential, because it's 200 years old. therefore, our grain went through gdynia and gdansk, ports, and as of now

, we need to continue to look for opportunities for cooperation that are beneficial, mutually beneficial for the countries, but here i agree that the authorities in both ukraine and poland should look for this system, and from our side there is also a lot of undone homework, okay, mr. myroslav, now you tell me why abv, right, i now said, yes, service, service, why abu does not work with these several tens. putin fersteeriv, a perhaps even political corruptors, if we proceed from their history of cooperation with the kremlin, why is the polish government not working and why are these people on the border also receiving a certain cover and support from the state of poland in the form of the police. no, well, there is a bigger problem and not such cover-ups, but in general, how can the police allow any services that guard the persian border to allow anyone to interfere with the transportation, outsiders, to interfere with the transportation of some, carried out

by citizens of other countries, well, let's talk now honestly and openly, through ukraine. through poland and the polish-ukrainian border crossing points, there is a huge movement of goods to e, provision of the armed forces of ukraine , well, it’s no secret that there is a military airfield near the border, through which the lion’s share of supplies of the ukrainian army goes, it is guarded by this, to the airfield, well , as far as i remember , and this is open... sources last year, because president biden met with them, american troops, well, this is what, it no longer has any state and presence at all of the state, special services, not only polish, but nato, between this airfield and the border with ukraine, no one controls this at all , how could outsiders be allowed

to open the cargo and see if they have military products or not , this what? there is no state, the state, the state has ceased to exist, nato has ceased to exist, any security moments have ceased to exist, well, it's just me , i'm really telling you, as a citizen of the republic of poland, as a former member of the polish parliament, what happened to this absolutely, absolutely a situation that strikes at the foundation of poland's security during military operations on the territory of ukraine. and which is supported by nato, poland, and the european union, this is simple , it does not enter my head, and when we speak, and we should do it as we try to consider with you, the tv presenters, and with ms. oksana the political situation and so on, but in fact it refers to the foundations of both the security of poland and

the security of ukraine, which is self-evident and not to interfere in this, well, this is just a scandal, and here we have to fight... this is all in a hurry and this situation needs to be resolved as soon as possible, and i am very disappointed by yesterday's statement, donald tusk, who will be the next prime minister, who said, we can't wait for the next two weeks, journalists asked him , and how will you solve this problem in two weeks, he says, what two weeks, this problem must be solved already, and we absolutely do not agree with the inaction of the current government until this issue is solved, to whom and when will we talk about this , emphasize it, i think this problem, this issue will be resolved as soon as possible, because there is one more remark, do not imagine that the border is key for the security of ukraine, in the winter period of the armed forces of ukraine, it is blocked and successfully blocked by several dozen people, then

russia, and knows russia, what a pittance it will help to spend... rub that strength. the next blockade will take place, that several thousand people will arrive, and then the border will be walled up for several months, and that then, how, how, how will this problem be, we will live, we will solve it, and it will no longer be the issue of only ukraine, how it is being tried to be presented today in the polish parliament, and not only the polish parliament, but it will also relate, relate directly to the national national security of poland and the whole of nato, is that we have the permission to allow such things and calmly observe i believe that absolutely not, it is necessary to talk about it in direct language. gentlemen, we have literally 8 minutes, very briefly, i would like you to express your thoughts about what will take place on december 4 in brussels, poland initiated by the eu council, at which this issue should be considered,

sooner than two weeks from when the next government of poland starts working. briefly, ms. oksana, mr. myroslav, do you think this will be an absolute fiction, or we can still hope that some specific decisions will be made at the eu level on this matter. if we talk about the fact that the new future prime minister of poland will be present there, then i think that his connections and the background he has in the european union can definitely help poland a lot, you know. here in lviv we have such a tradition of two lvivs, i have the impression that we are now discussing two polands with you, because you know one side of people. who work, help ukraine, and you know the other side, which by inaction, so criminal , prolonged, destroys everything that was done, and it is destroyed very quickly, so i hope, because both yesterday and today, the conference in brussels now that there is such a preparation about ukraine, there will be a system of a key country and a partner for us, with which we need to work a lot actively, i

i will continue this, but unfortunately, it seems to us that it will somehow be driven by one institution, or presidential relations or something else , no, regardless of the change of power in each country, there must be national interests and ukraine must look for opportunities even before starting any issue or problems, to fix them, so as of today, i hope that we will solve it by the fourth and these points will be removed and people will still get a human contact, i think that the question is, we understand another thing, that as of today, there are politicians who are ready go to infamy and they are already on their faces anyway, and we observe this a lot, that is, when they change, when they behave as if everything is tomorrow, or they get this, you know, reign and leave, like that, but in reality you have to understand , that there is still life after that and you have to think about what will happen tomorrow. that is far-sightedness, i hope, and in ukraine it will also become fashionable for those politicians who will deal with it qualitatively and professionally, because analytics must also be qualitative and responsible,

because in fact now there is a great demand justice and this justice can only be defended by someone who experienced it, that is why they never named our charming statesman and will solve this issue of the european union, i think poland will manage itself and we could not worry about their elections, yes, that is, what let it be there, but it is within the limits of democracy, within the limits of all procedures. as of now the solutions that we are all waiting for and it is right to say that it has to be solved already, it has already dragged on for the third week and it is actually hitting a lot of people very hard things and it drags on, that we will forget where it started, so mr. miroslava wanted to clarify, mr. myroslava, whether it hits or does not hit, because we actually understand this, the game of the government from peace, which basically slammed the door just like that in a small bunch... rubbing hands on the border and let this politician roku tusk together with his government sort it all out, but at the same time this dog will not go anywhere,

his voters will not go anywhere, they will actually be in the opposition, and that is enough many people voted for them in those extreme elections, and what, this story will change the attitude of ordinary pis voters towards ukraine, whether it will affect or not , this whole story is about the borders, well, you know, i will tell you this, my approach, i would be less worried about the voters, pis, because these are their problems , they will have more than one surprise, they will soon find out about the activities of their elected officials, what they actually did and so on, our main task is to solve this issue at the border, unblock the border, and attract the full... polish authorities to to the polish side of the border, because this is the main issue now, not too

whether or not intere political interests are taken into account, because it is right, it is very important to analyze it, analyze it now and get to the bottom of the problem, this is the most important thing, unfortunately, i have to say that very little is said about this topic in the polish press, the polish mass media, unfortunately, as they protest, some group protests. and that's right, in fact they are right, well, because ukraine is your own understanding, well, it's corruption, well, it's that they have their interests, we have our interests, what is that interest, and it's not known how many of those protesters there are, and god knows , well, but are protesting, it's ours, so the protest is a protest, it probably has some important grounds and he, he is justified, he is from this enchanted circle, this kind of insolence or condescension in essence to those organizers. blocking, getting out, finding a way out and arguments, this is the main task of the media and people who think critically, because

kona actually has a lot, a lot, first of all, it is the national security of ukraine, the national security of poland, and the economy of both ukraine and poland's economy, and the future of relations with the european union of ukraine, of course, but just as it will... function in the european union , poland itself, that by the meeting on thursday, december 4, i hope that there will be an attempt to find some, well, at least elements of a compromise, i will say something about the electronic queue , because they are unlikely to cancel the cancellation of the license for ukrainian carriers , because all those legends about the fact that ukrainian carriers in some bloody way take away jobs from ukrainian, polish... carriers, perform services between that, between the countries of the european union and so on further, i think that

this is in the lion's time, in the absolute majority it's just, legends are black legends, it's the same , you know, it was when at the beginning of this year, i returned from ukraine to poland and i was just really struck by the propaganda that was going out, that from grain it is imported from ukraine, and they, you know, it is technical, it will be polluted, there are pesticides and it poisons the poor poles, because this grain gets to the mills and is ground there, they make flour from it and so on, you think to yourself, well, not much, maybe that's how it is, the prosecutor's office... conducted 283 searches, almost 300 cases, 10 will be discovered, three abuses, three abuses, of course , mr. myroslav, and you are just running out of time, but this is in fact, three abuses in which no one found, neither pesticides nor prohibited substances in ukrainian grain, well, would anyone have bear responsibility for the fact that the poles are scared

simply by ukraine, because yes, it is possible to do simply and, unfortunately, blame the government for this as well. mr. myroslav, reminds absolutely, simply of the story from the career of nikodym dyzma and polish sugar. who wants to rewatch this comedy, somewhere, somewhere so it reminds, this is all only with ukrainian grain, and in this case , we have to summarize literally for a minute, but the truck driver pavlo pavlov, gave an interview to the chief of staff, says that his polish colleagues have a negative attitude towards the terrorist organization that he arranged on the border of ukraine , here are the attitudes of the truckers, but they are only on the border, and it is necessary to decide, as they say, to say that i am most worried about this situation, about what ms. oksana spoke about, that in fact this huge positive potential of great solidarity of poles with

ukrainians in 2022, brothers, and the help that was given to the refugees, the great military aid, poland is now being destroyed, and this is the main goal of the russians, to once again sow discord, between ukrainians and poles, poles and ukrainians, no tolerance, let's not allow it to happen, wait a minute also for ms. oksana, i thank mr. miroslav for speaking so soberly, because in reality there is a lack of adequate analytics and the ability of polish people to debunk myths, you and i started with myths, unfortunately, now the world is such that everyone has to be very responsible in their work, and for us there is the important key, of course, is our accelerated victory and our ability to endure, and to endure without our neighbors, partners and an adequate reaction to the fact that we are fighting together for a democratic world, well, it will not happen, therefore, as of now, everyone needs a sober mind, adequacy and not to be indifferent is the worst thing that kills, it is indifference, we thank our interlocutors and mrs. oksana, oksana yurynets, professor of the national university of lviv polytechnic, former head of the ukrainian delegation of the

nato parliamentary assembly. also to myroslav chech, to a former member of the polish diet, and a public figure, for analyzing the situation in nato and in our neighbors, but time for news , yes, time for news, but the directors literally tell us, we still have a minute, for those who have just joined us, i would like to remind you that with ms. oksana and mr. myroslav we discussed the really difficult situation that is currently happening on the polish-ukrainian border, where the legs are growing from, and we understand that in fact between poles and ukrainians everywhere... third forces are trying, and we know where these forces sit, sow discord and accordingly they instigate and direct ukrainians against the poles, but in the end we have to do our own thing there and do it very well, look at the confederation and in moskkala you worked all the time, not only with janosen korvinke, but also with others, they are still working now, these are the people , who actually went to putin all the time to his st. petersburg forums, to others, and now

they are suddenly this small bunch... to destroy the strategic cooperation between two whole peoples, it is fantastic, fantastic, fantastic what our journalists will now tell, in news reports, anna eva melnyk, is ready to inform you about all the most relevant things, so we will give her the floor. congratulations, colleagues, thank you for your work, the news team is always ready, and in this issue, in particular, i will tell you about when deliveries of f-16 fighters to ukraine will begin, stay with us. and i will start with what is happening now in kherson. damaged houses and power outages, the russians once again hit kherson - reported the head of the city's military administration, roman mrochko. there were several explosions.