[000:00:00;00] i say once again, i did not do anything for which i am being judged today, it is unfair , after the russians blew up the kakhov hydroelectric plant , cattle burial grounds, a cemetery and oil products were underwater, all of this was absorbed by the waters of kherson oblast, mykolaiv oblast and odesa, 18 billion cubic meters of water of the kakhov sea washed away everything in their path. in addition to human casualties, the russians caused irreversible damage to the ecosystem of the south. concerned eco-volunteers decided to examine water samples to find out if it decomposes on its own, which scientists found in the samples of water in dmytro didora's plot, after the kakhovsky gez, the river overflowed very much, because it flooded our embankment in the village of pavlivka, and then three streets of vasylivka were damaged, a lot of damage was done to people,

a resident of... the village of pavlivka, snihoriv district, oksana remembers how it overflowed the ingulets river after the russians blew up the kakhovka hydroelectric power station. mykolaiv oblast was significantly affected by the blowing up of the hes dam. the water level in the local river rose by more than 6 meters, flooding houses and gardens. animals died. a total of 13 were under water settlements of the region. the damage was also caused by the fact that the crops and gardens were completely flooded, and the picture of those people who were left without housing, more than 370 families, were flooded, and the houses were flooded, was very difficult. the woman says that the quality of the water has greatly deteriorated since then, and it is not surprising, because the oil products of cattle burial grounds and local landfills have all been absorbed by reservoirs and groundwater of the region. oksana has her own

well, but she does not drink the water from it, like other residents of snow river, she buys cleaned, the quality of the water has worsened, i still have a pool at home, so i and we collect water from there, and volunteers also bring us water, so we go, so that there is a lot of salt in the water, we also have a spring in the yard, well, we are still they didn't drink, well, at least they watered the garden there, and yes, later. we went to buy more water, then the volunteers brought it to us, they already gave us enough for two. currently , there are no problems with water supply in snighorivska hromada. it was saved by the fact that immediately after the russians blew up the hydroelectric plant, the local wells managed to conserve. we thought that we would be able to save them from flooding in this way, so they were preserved and we did not have the opportunity to measure their

parameters, whether they changed or did not change, already after the water receded, they were unconserved, well and of course we saw that they were completely flooded with groundwater, ecoactivists together with scientists after the disaster decided to investigate the water and record the crime of ecocide, the expedition consists of several groups: water is collected at 12 points in mykolaiv region, kherson region and in addition to water, sediments are also taken for analysis by odeschi, and we took these bottom sediments for that purpose. to examine them for toxic metals, for toxic substances and in general to learn about the impact of these toxic substances on our earth, and in this way, of course, scientists will be able to clarify on the basis of these indicators whether, for example, we can plant gardens here , can we eat food, and watering our vegetables with this water,

containers... must be signed with the coordinates of the area, this is necessary to understand the quality of water at each point, it is already the third expedition of volunteers is just as much needed for the preliminary conclusions and recommendations of scientists. the first two studies showed that the driver exceeded the norm of petroleum products, toxic metals, zinc and cadmium, and chlorine-organic compounds. in some places even arsenic was found. you can say that we have the third expedition, but we are talking about the first ones, because every scientist in the world needs three initial data, that is , to overlay information, after three expeditions, and then they will be able to give the first recommendations for us, and then we need this do constantly, in order to find out how quickly it all seems to decompose, now scientists of the ukrainian scientific center for marine ecology have recorded exceeding the permissible concentration of copper in all the selected samples, in a number of samples

the amount of zinc and cobalt is higher than the norm, and they have also found arsenic . scientists note that the concentration of harmful substances in water has decreased compared to previous results and add that the presence of toxic substances that were analyzed in one liter of water is much less than the amount that can cause a fatal effect on a person, but the danger is that such substances, after entering a living organism, are not removed from it, accumulate and over time can lead to fatal consequences, and when the water quality will be restored, scientists cannot predict. in addition to ukrainian laboratories, water quality is also studied abroad, in italy and germany. the volunteers will pass all the obtained results to the specialized environmental prosecutor's office, which, together with the sbu, is investigating criminal proceedings against russia regarding undermining kakhovskaya hes. dmytro didora and oleksandr burlevich, news on espresso. yes, now let's move on to the conversation with oleksandr

khara, a diplomat, we will talk about international events, of course, which are directly related to ukraine, there are many important topics. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you. good evening, mr. vasyl. well, let's start with this meeting. ministers of foreign affairs of nato member countries, what important, well, really important signals did ukraine receive? well, the traditional support for the sovereignty of the territorial integrity of nato countries and nato as an alliance will help ukraine, it is clear that nato member countries help us with weapons and other things, and nato in general not with air assistance, and of course it helps us acquire the qualities that are needed in order to meet the membership criteria, this today was a very important event, as the ukraine nato council was actually created, a new mechanism that both sides, ukraine and nato, consider as a tool for their own approach to

membership, it was about the areas that, let's say, are the most relevant now help us, further transformation, such a comprehensive aid package, the nato countries announced in order to meet not only our current needs, but also to build those defense forces that will restrain russia in the future, and the ukrainian government, unfortunately, i am in front of the ether looked, did not see that he published the document, the document was adopted, the adapted annual national program, this is actually such homework that ukraine undertakes, with, of course , the synchronization of what is expected of us by our... partners, roughly speaking, that we mother what we have to do and how we will be evaluated on our progress, to approach these standards , this is an extremely important thing, in fact, in 2008 we were not given the opportunity to get an action plan for membership, then we came out with the initiative

of the river national program, so they were quite cumbersome and in fact everything was touched, now the government came out with a more compact document from what i read in the mass media, i would certainly like to see: with my own eyes, and there are five key sections, in fact , political, economic, defense and military reforms issues, security resource issues and legal issues, and of course what they want to hear from us in the west, primarily civilian control over the defense security sector, and so on, that is, in principle, this is an important tool for changing the security and defense sector and to get closer to nato, so this was a very important event, although it was more for bureaucrats, diplomats, for the general public, of course we would like to see some billions of dollars in the form of new, new weapons that kill our enemies, but these things are also important in

strategic perspective. well, about supplies, in particular, if we talk about weapons, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine , dmytro kuleba, said that the supply of shells promised to us by our partners, first of all from the countries of nato, the european union, will be a matter only in the schedule, well, here the question is in the schedule , the question is that every day when this schedule is violated, it is unfortunately the life and health of our soldiers. well, but i would like you to comment on the statement of the former representative of the us president in ukraine, kurt volker, who said that our rhetoric, that ukraine will one day be in nato, it only fuels putin's war, it frees putin's hands, because he can fight for a very long time and, in principle, with a country that is ready to live in a totalitarian society, putin really may fight for a while, every day is important for us, that's why, says volker. why not say that ukraine will be in nato as soon as possible, then when we give this message to putin that ukraine will soon be in nato, then he will lose the motivation to fight, because no matter what you achieve,

you will still lose ukraine, a long time - it's like they say , either the king dies or the donkey dies, no one knows how it will end, how do you think this rhetoric will be received, this message from an american politician, well yes, he has a great article and he basically says that it is possible to accept ukraine into nato even tomorrow, because in fact, if you read the fifth article of the washington treaty, it does not automatically mean the entry of all nato member countries to the protection of the one who was subjected. attack , and he offers such a hybrid method, and by the way, it is much better than what we recently used offered to somehow make peace with the russians, and that part, which remained under the control of the government of ukraine, let it investigate, strengthen, and then we will return diplomacy to all that was illegally occupied, he actually offers almost, let's say so, to join nato, and

certain things that go beyond what is given to us now are meant, for example, when the systems of pppo and about member countries, on nato territory, russian missiles could be shot down, at least over part of the territory, well, first of all, it is western ukraine, the second moment - is it possible to use aerial platforms for the same purpose since there is no direct conflict if an american plane or a british plane shoots down a russian missile flying at a ukrainian city? these are not russian forces, and therefore of course there could not be any conflicts here. next, he proposes humanitarian demining, and first of all at sea, then patrols and what is called freedom of navigation and operation, that is, these are operations by naval forces that ensure that no one interferes, as it was, well, until the last moment, with ours with sea lines of communication, so it's a very cool approach actually, and i would say it's simple.

innovative, but i do not think that the political will will be primarily in the united states before this, not to mention germany , because they are afraid of escalation, by the way, he also writes about escalation there, that russia is not capable of escalating with conventional, that is, conventional armed forces, she already has everything that can be used to kill us, she uses it, and nuclear escalation, well, nuclear is nuclear deterrence, the united states has the same number of intercontinental ballistic missiles, and of course there are much better ... better ahai class underwater men who can, shall we say, deter these hotheads in the russian federation, well, unfortunately, i think that a cautious policy , escalation management, as it is called in the bird language of diplomats, it will hold back the aid that is given to us, and now there is an additional problem in the house of representatives, i hope that within a few weeks we will still get, well at least will vote for this big... aid package and this problem will be solved

, at least until the presidential elections in november of next year, but this is the deterrence of the red line in the minds of american strategists, this is what does not make it possible to make an innovative decision that would make this idea impossible for putin, that someday, when the europeans and americans lose interest in helping us, or trump comes to power, and then russia will finish off ukraine. well, it will destroy it as such, of course, if we were members of nato, then it would simply, let's say this, not something that reduced it, it would not without without , let's say this, it would lose any sense for russia to continue the war that they are waging to destroy the ukrainian state, you know, i'm just in the united states the united states not only have submarines of a higher class than russia, they recently presented a new strategic bomber, the b-21 rider, and there was an interesting article, i read today that

the chinese, well, virtually shot down the b-21 rider, it is such a stealth, which is very bad it is also caught by radar systems, but they said that we have already calculated and we knocked down , here is an interesting one, the words that using the possibility of artificial intelligence communication between missiles , you read about it and think, well, this is the future, and here is russia with its converted t-62 tanks, there, yes, there are many of them everything, but we understand that for sure this russian war is the last war, of the past , and what the war of the future will be is not clear, the question is whether it will be, and the question here is, now to you, how much support russia will have, and who precisely in the conduct of this war of the past, which will probably be the last in our generation to use another weapon, which is called, say, stalin's sledgehammer, if we are talking about a howitzer, d-41 there or d-43, which was used in the second war, please, well, you know, no quite so, since a large part.

countries of the so-called third world, they use russian weapons, they are the same india, a growing economy , the largest democracy in the world, most of the ground forces, that is, all these old t-90s and old tanks, these are actually aviation and migs, dryers, they are used by the indian army, and this is quite, let’s say, a wealthy and powerful country, and not to mention other countries where russia is supplied with this scrap metal, it is clear that the western one is the best, it showed that even the developments of the 70s -80s, they are much better and not that this is an analogue of russian weapons. as for the future, well, it is clear that the most important conflict, which i hope will be avoided, is between the united states and china, regarding taiwan, the chinese are very much building up their and nuclear muscles, literally in one and a half to two years they increased from 300 to 500 warheads

, and by the end, more precisely, by the mid-30s, there should be about 1,000 warheads, and this will certainly bring china to the same level as the russian federation. and the united states, that is, the chinese are preparing for such a conflict, but thanks, by the way, to our war, well, of course , in embarrassment, since we are suffering, but on the other hand, in fact, china supported, silently took the russian side, and supports not only , which buys resources for zabisya and provides dual-purpose goods, are the same chips, here, but also in a political sense, that is, china does not offer any realistic plans of any kind, the only ... positive role of china, well , really positive in our conflict with russia, is to prevent putin from reaching for the red button, this this is a very important point, otherwise he is on the side of russia, from history , they are still, so to speak, under the illusion that the policy

of non-alignment, which gave quite a lot to the hindus during the cold war, will save them now, we see well, on the one hand , i already said about the great dependence of the armed forces forces of india from russian or soviet weapons, i did not fail to mention the nuclear submarines, which are actually russian projects there, at least the power plant, that is, they have a dependence, but they will be more and more inclined to cooperate with the united states, because they also have , that there is pakistan, and conflicts break out regularly, there is china, which actually encroaches on indian territory, and also behaves quite brazenly in the region, and the indians do not like it very much, but so far this country is helping russia, well , of course, what is there but iran itself, which found an opportunity to circumvent sanctions, who found an opportunity to access russian technologies, including missile technology, that’s what he is doing, well, let’s remember the pariah country

north korea, which for its millions of shells, what are they, well, i don’t know, let’s put it this way, was information that they have already provided, they also receive certain missiles. systems, perhaps satellite systems, in order to threaten the material, continental united states with their existing missiles, so these countries are, there are those who do not shy away from making money, the same turkey is making money, it has become a new belarus, yes, that is, after the 14th year, sanctions were imposed by ukraine and the world, and belarus became such an offshore offshore zone, now turkey fulfills this role, there are also countries there, saudi arabia, for example, that exactly, they deliver. chips to russia and they are a haven for russian money , which, let's say, has left or is leaving the european or western markets, so they have assistants, unfortunately, so far they have enough resources to continue the war. thank you very much, i still have it questions, but unfortunately there is no time, oleksandr khara was with us

, thank you for your expert comments, we diplomatically discussed the consequences of the meeting of foreign ministers, it is still ongoing , the legal affairs of nato in brussels and other important issues, now i have the story for your attention as a sign of that : ukrainian drivers blocked the roads in the polish cities of pemyschel and medyka, thus the initiators of the action seek to draw attention to the situation at the border. for more than three weeks, poles have been making traffic difficult for ukrainian trucks, and since november 27, polish farmers have been working around the clock they block the checkpoint of doctor shoghini. thousands of truck drivers are stuck in the queue, which demands are put forward by the polish strikers, kateryna oliynyk found out. vasyl herlyak, stayed for 5 days in polish-ukrainian. at the border, a man is transporting power plants from germany, through the blockade, the driver says that he was not starving, because volunteers helped him, they brought hot soups, here yesterday the mchasniki drove us, yes, the firemen, don’t worry, well, the fire truck was driving, and we were already standing there on the przeworsk border, then they brought zhurik,

they brought borscht, well, it’s normal, they block the border, no i know why, it seems to me that there is more politics than, than all that, something is connected with politics. and that is not connected with the transportation of all that on the territory of poland in the direction of the medica shiggin checkpoint. the line of trucks stretched for 73 km - the drivers say . the sixth day, the sixth day. and those who have been there before do not have the opportunity to go in, to save money, they don’t have that, that’s all, there are no words here, there is absolutely no way to drive them or not, well, you yourself understand that do you think we want to stand here, of course not, everyone wants the files just the same, from november 6, polish transporters blocked the krakiwiec korchova, ravoruska grebene and yagodyn dorogusk border crossing points, and on november 23 , farmers blocked the fourth

medica shegyny crossing point, restrictions on the entry gates operated only during the day, but from november 27 the blockade became 24 hours a day. as of today , 800 cargo vehicles are waiting to enter ukraine at the checkpoint, and it is here that the largest queue of all three has gathered checkpoints where traffic is complicated. exactly. upon departure from ukraine, there are no problems in russia at the sheghina checkpoint, vehicles cross the state border out of turn, only in turn, and they leave on the adjacent side, we have not recorded any complications. the blockade on medicine was organized by farmers of the subcarpathian voivodeship. poles complain that agricultural products are sold cheaply, due to the prices of ukrainian farmers. we have nothing against it. of ukraine, we could help as much, we helped as much, and we will to help, because we know your difficult situation due to russia's attack on ukraine, don't resent us because

we are cornered, you have bombarded us with cheap products, wheat, corn, oil products, that's why we farmers are bankrupt, we appeal to the ministry of agrarian policy of ukraine and poland. polish strikers let through two trucks per hour. according to roman kondruv, the organizer of the action, cars with humanitarian and military aid to palov. and perishable products, are allowed to cross the border out of turn. the first demand is that our government pay us an additional payment for corn. the second requirement is that the loans be paid to us, according to the proposed conditions, and that taxes not be raised. we live in a democratic country and no one will stop us from protesting. if our demands are taken into account and will be resolved by our territorial authorities, then we are ready to end the protest. polish farmers have permission to block the border until january 3. 2024, according to the european business association, in one day of the blockade cargoes, ukraine loses approximately one million

hryvnias, due to the closed border, there may be a shortage of autogas and imported goods, and a compromise between the protesters and the ukrainian authorities has not yet been reached. kateryna oliynyk, oleg palyamar, espresso tv channel. see this week in the judicial control program with tatyana shustrova. candidates for the constitutional court, to whom the council of judges gave. green light, they delegate there those who are representatives of the old system, and why do the candidates register the property to relatives? my sister is pretty good received wages from 2005 to 2013, watch the judicial control program with tetyana shostrova on thursday, november 30 at 5:45 p.m. on the espresso channel. hello, this is svoboda ranok, an informational project of radio svoboda.

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everyone has the right to be safe. well, we continue, and now it’s time to talk about money, oleksandr morchuka, it’s already ready , so the money, during the war, oleksandr , please, good evening, thank you vasyl, an interesting topic, next, a successful business, the story of an entrepreneur, and also about human capital, how to develop this direction and who will invest specifically in human capital, we will get into the details in a moment, i am oleksandr morshchevka, congratulations, this is a column about money during the war, indeed, people are the main asset of the economy, not only of ukraine, and of the economy of the whole world, although the great war in our country caused, well, forced migration, more than 6 million

ukrainians, according to official data only, left their homeland, five... became internal migrants, well, hundreds of thousands are now at the front, i'm really sure many will return alive and everyone will be looking for work. today we are talking about human capital, about investments in this direction, about the experience of the european union, why exactly the eu is now directing its support programs to the development of small and medium-sized businesses, about this in details further with the guest, we are joined by dmytro lyvch, executive director of izibiness, head of the analytical direction of the economic recovery center. good evening. good evening. mr. dmitry, it is clear that the great war hit all sectors of the economy, and in fact, how this war affected human capital, what changes took place in this area, tell us in detail. in fact, the impact of a full-scale war, it was quite significant, in 2022 the decline of the ukrainian

economy was recorded at the level of 29.2. percent, compared to the gdp of 2021, but it is also worth understanding that this impact, it was heterogeneous, from the point of view of regional distribution, i.e. the southern regions, partial northern regions, as well as the eastern regions, suffered much more than the western and central regions, also from the point of view of the cross-section of enterprises, small and medium-sized enterprises businesses were affected more than large enterprises, as well as from the point of view of sectors of the economy, that is, we are aware that, for example, the agricultural sector, or other, other sectors that are part of the primary sector of the economy, they suffered quite, quite significantly, but at the same time, it is worth understanding that the ukrainian economy, thanks to such stable work of both small and medium-sized businesses and large businesses, suffered less than was predicted by international financial

institutions, since the fall was predicted at the level of blyk... 35-40 - here and here we should understand that the impact of a full-scale war on the economy is calculated not only by the impact on the gross domestic product, but also on human capital. we are in analytical center easybiness, also a center for economic recovery, relatively recently held a large-scale event about the future of human capital in ukraine and presented a study in which the impact of the great war was assessed in the long term on human capital. and the estimate is about 255 billion dollars of underachieved gdp in the next 10 years, if we do nothing about this, about this issue, and here completely, but if there is a short-term perspective, we hope to win, what are the options, here are investments and prospects for human of capital, or did you calculate only for 10 years

of war? no, we, we carried out, we carried out quite, quite thorough work on forecasting what the future of the labor market in ukraine might be in general, how to return forced migrants who are currently staying abroad, how to better integrate internally displaced persons , war veterans , socially vulnerable groups of the population, that is, this whole issue is so complex that it is necessary to work on it, if we talk about human capital in general, then here short-term impact, it mainly occurs due to the affected infrastructure in the field of health care. social sphere, as well as the sphere of education, if we talk about the long-term impact, then this is a possible drop, a drop in productivity, and here we should understand that if we want to restore the economy and develop it at a rate of at least 7%, and this needed in order to double the gross domestic product of ukraine in the next 10 years, we should consider at least three approaches,

the first approach is a quantitative approach, when we we are talking about the return of ukrainians, the involvement