today, under the snow in the trenches, they will choose our right to exist as a state. motivation is the main thing for recruiting, and if the state as a single organism does not adjust its information policy to a high-quality motivation to defend the dignity of defending our state, then, i'm sorry, any recruiting agency will rest on the ceiling of the fact that it will not be able to provide motivated defenders defense security sector, what is unmotivated... fighter va fighter will tell you any commander who receives, obscure characters who are forced to not allow to performing combat tasks, because he is either unable, or unable, or afraid , so the first thing needed for any high-quality recruiting campaign is motivation, so that you and i do not turn into, you know, the end of the 19th century russian empire , when the battle recruits... everyone scattered, we should not

disperse from mobilization, but rally, unite and defend the state, well, you are talking about motivation, this is a very important aspect, in fact, it is clear that the state has no price, but people still go by walking fight, have to provide for families, pay certain bills, and have to have certain funds, again depending on the level of threat to their lives and the level of tasks that they perform, meaning at zero or somewhere in other places, the budget for the next year was approved and that money should be prescribed for the same payments , again money should be prescribed there for a certain number of people, i am now talking about plans for the war, i am not asking to reveal any secrets, but that this moment is foreseen about how many people can we mobilize, how much income will we have in the budget at the same time, or has it not been calculated yet and a lot depends on many things? look, first of all, what will be needed for the general staff to carry out the assigned or

approved strategic decisions is one thing, and it will always be greater than our state and our society is able to provide, but at the same time we must seek the necessary point of convergence that will allow our armed forces of ukraine to fight back and defend in a high-quality manner our country if we are talking about some numbers, i can assure you and everyone. of our viewers, that the necessary numbers are proven and substantiated. the only problem of our state is that we do not have time to provide the security and defense sector, our armed forces of ukraine, with everything necessary for high-quality repulse, effective repulsion of the enemy. therefore, we must be responsible and adjust ourselves, not to the fact that we, as we are told... even in the 22nd

year, that in the fall we will be in the crimea, not to the fact that we will be there, to be released in that, that we must prepare for an exhausting war, and this war must be victorious for us , and it can become such, and i believe that it will, if we are united, if we do not divide society by quarrels, if we do not clash.. . the military leadership and the political leadership itself, so there are a number of unpopular decisions that must be made by the political leadership above, but this is his responsibility, it is not necessary to fight for ratings, but for the state, and when national interests are a priority, then we will all win and then we we will win, we literally have 30 seconds, but i cannot write when you will gather again in the verkhovna rada, i will not write when, because you should not give these plans to the enemy, again, but will there be any conversation about mrs. maryana bezuglii, well, because she made a lot of statements... and there is even a submission

to the security service of ukraine from mr. gudymenko in particular, somehow it will be considered by the deputies, maybe even in your circle to talk, just what are you doing, man, within the framework of the national security committee, i initiated suspension from leadership of the committee on the subcommittee of democratic civil control, i hope that at the next meeting this issue will be considered and the committee will take its position on this, what it will be, i am not going to comment and predict, but it should be related. resolutions registered in the verkhovna rada, including resolutions from president fedir vyanislavskyi, the president's representative in the parliament, regarding her recall from the position of committee deputy and her recall from committee members. i think that this decision should be considered regulatory the committee and the parliament to adopt directly. as far as i know, after ms. maryana's latest statements, there are several more resolutions regarding her recall from the specialized committee, so all of this, in fact, if it does not block... the representatives of monobolje, can

be considered by the parliament for a decision. thank you very much for participating, thank you for your professional comments, i wish you success in the work on changes to the law, so that everything... is really, first of all, of course, it is worth thinking about those soldiers who have been at the front for a long time, about those that should be demobilized, even more so, there are also questions about people who have diseases, they are not demobilized and the wounded, well, actually, a lot of questions have accumulated, many things have not been carried out for a long time, and now, it will not be possible to cut the proud knot in one go, but it is still necessary to solve it, because it is again a question of the survival of the country, a question of moving towards victory, which was usually announced to us, but which must be won with sweat and blood. iryna friz, people's deputy of ukraine, was in touch with us. well, now i'm joining to the conversation of serhiy zgurets, director of the defense agency, host of the military summaries of the day column. sergey, congratulations. i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers. we once rejoiced with you that something flew 700 km to engels and exploded there at the military airfield, today

it exploded 700 km beyond baikal on the banks of the amur river, which means a tunnel. well, it is unknown what is there and who is there, what do you think it could be? well, actually, i... i would like to wait for at least some messages from the ukrainian side, because the event is loud and interesting, but the details, i think we will find out later, actually we are talking about the railway between china and the russian federation, it is such an important logistical route, if it does not function, then of course the russians will have a lot of problems, and there too absolutely yes, and then we in our column, we will rather not talk about today, but about certain technological aspects, first of all, about new aspects of drone warfare, and why the enemy began to use sim cards of kyivstar in the missiles with which they attack ukraine, as well as about ground robotic platforms for armed strength from our manufacturers, more on that in a moment.

war. with russia is now a war of infantry, artillery and drones. the quantity and quality of these components significantly affects the front line , and the increasingly large-scale use of unmanned systems begins to influence the formation of tactics for ground units and is an important component for striking targets in the depths of territories, as well as an integral element of the war of attrition. yes, yesterday it was known that ukraine launched an attack on bryansk. there were reports that the target was the munitions warehouse-2, or the shaheds in that regard city, and russia this night once again used shachet strike drones for strikes on ukraine, 20 shachets were launched, pppo forces shot down 14 of these drones, and probably

this winter drones will play the main role in enemy attacks on the energy structure of our country, precisely for i would like to remind you that on november 25, the enemy carried out the largest such massive attack on ukraine , with attack drones, as many as 75 shaheds were launched, of which 74 were shot down, and these shaheds were in the air for a long time, changing directions, formed in different waves and, after that, they were still defeated by our anti-missile complexes and mobile units using large-caliber rounds and cheetah anti-aircraft tanks, which we have more and more, but these recent attacks and the analysis of the wreckage of these shaheds revealed just such new details about the design of enemy drones, i mean here, i don't mean this black color that everyone said that this paint now

provides there, well, less visibility, this information is not confirmed, but here in modems, power banks, and sim cards of the ukrainian operator kyivstar were found in individual shahedas, it was screwed there to individual samples of shahedas in such an artisanal way, however, this find caused such increased attention from our military, from military experts, to form a risk assessment , which must be taken into account for further countermeasures, so what exactly is it about and why is it, our enemy. we will now talk about this very topic with our next guest, with our expert, and now to us joins anton mikhnenko, a military expert on defense technologies, with whom he also works closely with defense press with our defense industrial companies, mr.

anton, congratulations, glad to see and hear, congratulations, mutual, eh, i'm sure you saw, these photos and messages that before the fact that there were these new elements with kivstar sim cards in certain shahedes, there with parbanks and so on, and then this basic question arises, why is this to the enemy, who can... there may be versions of these finalization of this design, although for now this is how we see it some certain experimental solutions. in fact, we basically have to understand that the enemy is constantly trying to adapt to new realities. we have an insidious enemy , and i once again emphasize in every broadcast that the russian federation is trying to find ways to break through our air defense system and to use the weapons they currently have as effectively as possible from their point of view. if... directly about this situation that recently happened when in shahed found these additional elements, mobile

phones, sim cards and power banks, then there may be several options for using these tools. one of the options , which in principle is also possible, is that they can use our gsm system, that is, our towers, operator towers, in order to orient their drones directly, that is, to position these drones on one or another area of ​​​​the terrain, why this for them, it is important, because in principle, drones, they fly a long distance, they also fly in the area where there may be suppression of satellite navigation signals, and therefore they try to navigate around the gsm station, on the other hand, we also have to understand the same thing, that everyone knows about this in principle, that earlier it was possible to use mobile phones in order to remotely detonate one or the other means, and it is possible that this means could also be used to carry out a remote detonation of that... that combat unit, which is directly on this drone, the third option, which is also not suitable, is also possible

we have to take into account, we know that the drones fly there directly in waves , one, two, there is a third wave, and we also notice and the means of air defense notice that, for example, the first wave passed there, it was shot down there, and the second wave is coming , for example, another way, then the third wave goes the third way, why does this happen, because these drones can communicate with each other, and if, for example, the first wave passed and was shot down, then it is some kind of connection with the second wave, they understand that lost contact with the first wave, that means they were either shot down or they didn't reach that target that was set, and the second wave is trying to orient themselves on the terrain, and move in a different way to bypass those popo assets that are directly on terrain, that is, options for the application of that, precisely the accessories that have now been found in the latest versions, shahedi. it's just possible , it can be different here, that is, the options that i just listed, well, that is, if i

understood for myself, then in fact, if it's about, let's say there is a certain number there of a ukrainian operator there or any other, then in fact the enemy side knows that after a certain time it receives a signal from this drone, there with an interval there, well 5-7 seconds, yes, that is, even if this signal disappears, that means that this drone was also shot down in this area...' there are probably ukrainian units or anti-aircraft defense equipment working there, and therefore a new wave of drones must be sent along a different route with the same data received from the shaheds, that is, in fact, this is a means of informing the enemy, where our armed forces bring down that one or another drone, well very similar to that actually, very similar to that, because basically , look, again, they're adapting, and they're... to use whatever opportunities are available to be as efficient as possible from their point of view to use

drones, they understand that the shahed are a very advanced weapon, they understand that it is a simple enough weapon, but it is effective, from their point of view, from the point of view of not only overcoming the attrition of the air defense system, so they can use these the means for them or communicated with each other for orientation, for orientation on the terrain, or remotely, maybe there, to detonate or in some other way, so it's some kind of simple enough way for them to be able to use our gsm systems, our gsm stations to themselves, to communicate with each other, let's say this, then the question arises that the ukrainian side should develop certain countermeasures, because so far these gsm modules are fastened there, with tape, in the future... they will surely become a modular solution that will be built into

these shahedes, this means that now you have to think about how to counteract this, maybe somehow block the sim cards, taking into account that these are exactly the sim cards that stand on the shahedes from the view there, well, well, at the constant speed of the shaheda in comparison there with, the operator, who is there, well, it is possible to move there on foot, which is actually enough, in fact, it is quite difficult and difficult to do, you understand, if just a station of a mobile... operator, it identifies that it is a ukrainian-made sim card, it does not make certain conclusions about its speed movement, well, in principle, you see, some cars drive at a speed of 110 km. for an hour and the driver is sitting inside, he has a mobile phone, a mobile phone with a ukrainian-made sim card, in general, the sim card is ukrainian, and therefore, in principle, it is difficult to say here how the mobile operator can react to this thing, of course we would like to , so that just as soon as these shaheeds are launched, all gsm communication is cut off , but here there are other consequences, and we also

use it, and the military also uses it, and it is also necessary to cut it completely it is impossible, and that is why it will be such a complex, complex solution, and for now it remains an effective solution when to shoot down these drones in mobile groups to use air defense means, so far at this stage it is so, maybe there will be another more technological solution regarding misleading, let's say so , by a radio-electronic method of misleading these drones, regarding their positioning on the terrain, that is, when for some time, during the attack period of these drones , a certain error could be introduced into the work of gsm stations so that the drones disorientated, if they use their location of mobile apparatus stations to orient themselves on the terrain, let's say so, but still i will say, a simple solution on their part, it can be quite effective, again i emphasize, and on the other hand, the use of air defense means

in the context that we know that the adversary is trying to use our mobiles... it's a certain, shall we say, trump card for us, so that after a while we can use that trump card to make means of countermeasures, again, i emphasize, an effective weapon may be at the first stage , after a while, various ways can be found to counter it, and sooner or later this means will also be found a way to counter it, and mr. anton, one more question, about how to improve the quality of detection of these shaheds in the air, i know that you are in contact with the infozakhist company, there were certain developments of a radio intelligence system that can detect various unmanned systems in a certain image, which are in the air, does it mean that this direction can also be promising for the consolidation of our intelligence field in countering russian drones, in general , as far as is known, the infoprotection campaign,

it deals with means of realtronic intelligence, that is, they are in passive mode, these are means that are in passive mode allow you to detect the source of radio radiation, which can be located , including on unmanned aerial vehicles. if, if we talk about an alarm system, that is, a system that would warn about the presence of drones, about the presence of such means in the air, today, as far as is known, there is a certain complex in them that allows a signal mask, that is, a certain signal mask is embedded in it, of these drones, which are the most common, the federations, which are most often used , she compares them, concludes that this or that drone is there and signals this directly to the operator or crew or unit that this or that drone is present nearby, identifies this drone and says that such and such a situation, and based on this already

appropriate decisions are made, nevertheless, we also have to understand, the enemy is constantly updating drones, adding certain drones their capabilities, we are also ... adding the capabilities of their parameters to these means of radio-electronic intelligence, including, that's why it's such a continuous struggle, but it continues and every manufacturer, including information protection campaigns and other manufacturers, they are trying to invent just such means that would allow timely detection of drones, on the other hand, we must understand that if we are directly related to these drones, the minefield is a simple thing, easy to orientation from the point of view of the terrain, but it is difficult, from the point of view of the fact that it nevertheless reaches one or another point, tries to reach this point, hit it, eh, mobile groups are also used for this, they can also use acoustic means of reconnaissance, i.e. it is possible to detect where this drone is directly located by the sound of a drone rattling somewhere, such a specific sound,

it is also possible to identify this drone by other signs, i.e. theirs, after all, they have a certain surface of russia . the use of radar equipment that allows you to detect such small air targets, this is also an appropriate moment to counter these drones, i.e. in general, countering such drones as the shachet, it must be comprehensive, i.e. on the one hand it is detection systems, on the other from the side of the impression system, if we talk about detection systems, then they can be of different types, the quality of the system in terms of signals, that is, in terms of sound, both by the reflected signal from the top of this drone, and visually you can see them, and in thermal mode, because there is the engine, which also emits a certain heat, is one component, the other component is the impression system, that is, it can be against anti-aircraft units, it can be anti-aircraft missile units, that is, it is generally a complex interaction, at the moment, as we see from the effectiveness of the impression of these shaheeds on the territory, in the airspace on

the territory of ukraine, it indicates that our military is trying to build up as efficiently as possible in order to destroy the tyudovna that are in the territory of ukraine with the highest quality and in the greatest number. sir anton, thank you very much for your professional comment for your time, and i would like to remind our viewers, the viewers, that anton mikhnenko, an expert on security and technology, was on the air, and then we will move on to another topic, we will talk about the equipment that is needed on the battlefield, but before that, i would like us to watch a video together from under the pincers, where our soldiers carry their wounded comrade, this video is quite emotional, because we see how difficult the road is. and as three soldiers, at the expense of such a man, let's put it this way,

drag their wounded comrade across the cart, they actually carried out this march, about 5 km, and the good news is that this comrade, who was wounded, was indeed handed over to the medics and everything was fine, but we understand how difficult the conditions are now around the tick and on others areas of the front and about the need for technical means, machines, all-terrain vehicles that can provide assistance to our military, we understand that there are enemy drones that can , well, attack our soldiers there, but we understand that we need to look for, well technological options can, well, help our soldiers,

and now we will talk in more detail about possible solutions, about technological solutions, with our next guest, igor kornilov joins us, he is the project manager of the tovtakhal company, which develops platforms, both guided and unguided, that can be used by our soldiers on the battlefield, mr. igor, i congratulate you, glad to see and hear. nice to see you too, you must have seen this video where our guys, well, in such difficult conditions, are trying to drag their comrade along such, well, to the end of a broken road, and then for this raises the question, if our units had at their disposal the platforms that your company develops, your company manufactures, how long would it take to cover what... 5 km on your platform and in parallel, for you to tell us what kind of platforms it develops , your team, yes

, mr. serhiy, i and our company understand that there is such a problem, and that is why we are conducting this work regarding the time it took to evacuate the wounded person to a distance of 5 km. then considering that the speed of the platform is 10 km/h, it took about 30 minutes to evacuate the victim to the place of assistance, and our main idea in the development of these platforms was to create an all-terrain vehicle, not remotely controlled, but able to move on the most. .. a complex type of terrain, that is, fallen trees, swamps, boulders, water bodies, snow and even ice, in the video, you can

see footage from one of the tests where the driving characteristics were checked, and seeing this footage that you showed before turning on, we clearly understand that these platforms would be indispensable in such conditions. then the next question arises, whether there were offers to supply such platforms to our military, if there were, how the relationship with potential customers of these samples developed further. yes, there have already been such requests and proposals, but a very important point that must be satisfied for the military is the implementation of communication systems that will be... resistant to the technical means of enemy rap. and this is exactly what we are currently actively working on to

meet these needs. and already start supplying these platforms to our military, because we understand that in regional clashes with the enemy, it is the technical need, the technical ability of these platforms to work in the conditions of the enemy, that is a critical moment and it must be resolved. mr. igor, theoretically it can be assumed that , conditionally speaking, if these platforms have such a reliable secure connection, they could, well, conditionally speaking, if they were now, they could help our marines who are getting bridgeheads there on the left bank of the dnieper, when , relatively speaking, the fighters cross the dnieper on high-speed boats, and part of the cargo can be loaded onto these platforms, which can , relatively speaking, cross the dnieper and hang on you in those areas, where these cargoes can then be picked up by the marines, yes , of course, mr. sergey, this is exactly what

these platforms were created for , in order to ensure the fulfillment, including logistical tasks, in those, in those types of terrain, where it is impossible to use any other equipment, therefore, if we talk about forcing the dnipro and landing and delivery, provisions and logistical means water on left bank, then these forms would be very useful there. mr. igor, you are talking about the fact that you are currently solving the issue of the secure communication of control channels there, and we have such a structure called brain one, which works there under mindigits, and in fact they talked about the fact that there are at least 75 developments there in the field of ground robotic platforms there , some of them have already been tested under rebo, the question arises, did you turn to this structure, or rather, to get

help ... in getting a secure channel there communication to speed up the creation of an already effective device that can be used on the battlefield as soon as possible, yes mr. sergey, we are already in constant contact with the brave one platform with the ministry of defense accelerator, but there is one point regarding the choice of a communication system specifically for our platforms, because they are used in the most complex landscapes, that is, to provide communication not just for a ground robotic complex, but for a robotic complex that moves through forest strips, through hills, through water and so on, there is, yes let's say, a problem with an asterisk, but in any case, we constantly receive consultations from colleagues from the brigh one platform, in these matters, and one of the developers of these systems, this

platform, so we are trying to speed up the selection of the necessary system and implement it into mass production. mr. igor, thank you very much for the inclusion , for these explanations, i would like you to finish the work on these samples as soon as possible, well, after all, because they are really very necessary for our armed forces, we see examples there of the need, help wounded and the forcing of the dnipro, so i think that this is well. perhaps the informational support will not hurt, and our military will see that there are still solutions that can help them on the battlefield. and i will remind our viewers that my interlocutor was igor kornilov, who is the project manager of the tovtahal company, which develops piloted and, as we can see, remotely controlled platforms that can be used on the battlefield and reduce the risk for our military. these were the main

military results of this era, and. more international and economic news further in vasyl zima's great broadcast. good evening, we are from ukraine. these were the military results of the day, the day, thank you serhiy zhortsyuk, thank you to his guests. there is still a lot of interesting things ahead, but now i will tell you in detail about the most important news as of now. two residents of beryslav in the kherson region were wounded by enemy fire. around two o'clock in the afternoon , the occupiers dropped an explosive device on the city and hit it near the administrative building. this was reported to the regional military administration. the 22-year-old victim suffered an explosive injury, a contusion and a leg injury 37-year-old seriously wounded in the neck and head. earlier, the russians killed.