[000:00:00;00] therefore, the first thing that is needed for any high-quality recruiting campaign is motivation, so that we do not turn into you and me, you know, at the end of the 19th century of the russian empire, when everyone was afraid of recruits and ran away, we should not run away from mobilization, but rally, unite and to protect the state, well, you are talking about about motivation, this is a very important aspect, in fact, it is clear that the state has no price, but people still go and fight, have to provide... hours, pay certain bills, have to have, certain funds, again depending on the level threats to their lives and the level of tasks that they will perform, it is meant to be at zero or somewhere in other places, the budget for the next year has been approved and it is clear that there should be money for the same payments, again there money must be prescribed for a certain number of people, i am now talking about the plans for the war, i am not asking to reveal any secrets, but what is foreseen at this moment, approximately how many people we can mobilize, how much

income we will have in the budget or something else was not calculated and a lot depends on what? look, first of all, what will be needed for the general staff to implement the strategic decisions set or approved at stake is one thing, and it will always be greater than our state and our society is able to provide, but at the same time we must look for that necessary... a point of convergence, which will allow our armed forces of ukraine to effectively fight back and defend our country. if we are talking about some numbers, i can assure you and all our viewers that the necessary numbers are proven on rates are justified. the only problem of our state is that we do not have time to ensure the security and defense sector.

our weapons. the forces of ukraine, with all that is necessary for a high-quality repulse, an effective repulsion of the enemy, so we must be responsible and prepare ourselves, not for the fact that we, as we were told, even in the 22nd year, that in the fall we will be in crimea, not that we are going to be there, liberating anything and everything, that we are to prepare for an exhausted war, and that war must be victorious for us, and it can be, and i believe it will be, if we let's be united, if we don't divide society by quarrels, if we don't clash with the military leadership and the political leadership, then there are a number of unpopular decisions that the higher political leadership should make, but this is his responsibility, we should not fight for ratings, but for the state, and

when national interests will be prioritized. then we will all win and then we will win. we literally have 30 seconds, but i cannot help writing down when you will meet again in the verkhovna rada, i will not write when, because it is necessary to give these plans to the enemy, again, but will there be any conversation about ms. maryana bezuglii, well, because she made a lot of strange statements and there is even a submission to the security service of ukraine from mr. gudymenko in particular, somehow it will be considered by the deputies, it is possible even in your circle to talk, just what are you doing, man, within the framework of the national security committee, i initiated the removal from the leadership... of the democratic civilian control subcommittee, i hope that at the next meeting this issue will be considered, and the committee will take its i am not going to comment and predict the position in this regard, what it will be, but it should be, in relation to the resolutions registered in the verkhovna rada, including resolutions from president feder vyanislavski, the president's representative in the parliament, regarding her recall from the post of deputy the committee and recalling it from the committee members, i think that

this decision should be considered... the parliamentary committee and the parliament should be approved already . as far as i know, after ms. maryana's latest statements, there are several more resolutions regarding her recall from the specialized committee, therefore, all this in fact, if it is not blocked by representatives of the monomajority, can be considered by the parliament for a decision. thank you very much for taking part, thank you for your professional comments, i wish you success in the work on changes to the law, so that everything will actually be, first of all, of course, it is worth thinking about those soldiers who have been at the front for a long time against those who should be demobilized, all the more so there are also questions about people who have diseases, they are not demobilized and the wounded, well actually a lot of questions have accumulated, a lot of things are not possible has been carried out for a long time, and now, it will not be possible to cut the gordian knot in one go, but it is still necessary to untie it, because it is again a question of the survival of the country, a question of moving towards victory, which was announced to us, but which must be won sweat and blood, iryna friz, people's deputy of ukraine

, was in touch with us, and now i'm adding to the conversation serhiy zgurets, director of the defense agency and host of the military summaries of the day column. sergey, congratulations. i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers, we once rejoiced with you something flew 700 km to engels. there was an explosion at the military airfield, today it exploded 700 km beyond baikal on the banks of the amur, so it’s a tunnel, well, it’s unknown what is there and who is there, your opinion, what could it be, well, actually, i would like to wait for at least some reports from the the ukrainian side, because the event is loud and interesting , but i think we will find out the details later, and actually we are talking about the conflict between china and the russian federation, this is an important logistical route, if it does not function, then of course in the russians will have a lot of problems, they are also going there absolutely, yes, and further on in our column we will rather not talk about the front today,

but about certain technological aspects, first of all about the new aspects of the drone war, and why the enemy started using kyivstar sim cards in the shaheds , with which it attacks ukraine, as well as about ground robotic... platforms for the armed forces from our manufacturers, more on that in a moment. ukraine's war with russia is now a war of infantry, artillery and drones. the quantity and quality of these components significantly affects the front line and the increasingly large-scale use of unmanned systems is beginning to influence the formation of tactics for ground ones as well. units and is an important component for strikes on targets in the depths of the territories, as well as an integral element of the war of attrition, so yesterday it was known that ukraine carried out an attack on bryansk and there were reports that the target was a warehouse

of ammunition-2, whether the shaheds in this city, and russia this night once again used shahed attack drones for strikes on ukraine, 20 shaheds were launched. air defense forces shot down 14 of these drones, and probably this winter drones will play the main role in enemy attacks on the energy structure of our country, precisely due to their massiveness. i would like to remind you that on november 25, the enemy carried out the largest such mass attack on ukraine, with strike drones, as many as 75 shaheds were launched, of which 74 were shot down and these shaheds were in the air for a long time, changed directions, formed in different waves, and after that they all were misled by our reporting missile systems and

mobile detachments with the use of large-caliber machine guns and cheetah anti-aircraft tanks, of which we have more and more, but these recent attacks and the analysis of the wreckage of these shaheds have revealed just the same new details about the design of enemy drones, i mean here, i do not mean this black ... koli, who all said that this paint now provides there, well, less visibility, this information is not confirmed, but modems, power banks and sim cards of the ukrainian operator kyivstar were found in some shasheds, it was screwed there to individual samples of shasheds like this well, in an artisanal way, but this discovery caused such, well, increased attention on the part of our military, on the part of military experts, but... to form an assessment of the risks that should be taken into account for further countermeasures, so what exactly is it about and why is this,

our enemy, we will now talk about this very topic with our next guest, with our expert, and now we are joined by anton mikhnenko, a military expert on defense technologies, with whom he also closely cooperates with defense express, with our defense and industrial companies , sir anton, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, i congratulate you, in return, eh, i am sure that you have seen these photos and messages about the fact that there were these new elements with kivstar sim cards in certain shahedes, there with parbanks and so on another, and then this basic question arises, why is it to the enemy, what can be versions of such refinements of this design, although so far as we see some certain experimental solutions. well, in fact, we basically have to understand that the enemy is constantly trying to adapt to new realities. we have an insidious enemy, and again i emphasize in every broadcast that the russian federation is trying to find ways to break through our

air defense system and to use the armor they currently have as efficiently as possible from their point of view. if we talk directly about this situation that happened recently, when these additional elements, mobile phones, sim cards and power banks were found in shahedy, then there may be several options for using these tools. one of the options, which in principle is also possible, is that they can to use the gsm system, that is, our towers, operator towers, in order to direct their drones directly, that is , to position these drones on one or another part of the terrain, why is this for them, it is important, because in principle, drones, they fly on a large distance, they also fly in the area where there may be suppression of satellite navigation signals, and therefore they try to navigate around the gsm station, on the other hand, we also have to understand the same thing, that everyone knows about it in principle,

that before was to use mobile phones phones in order to remotely detonate this or that device, and it is not excluded that this device could also be used to remotely detonate the combat unit that is directly on this drone, the third option, which should also not be we can also take into account, we have, we know that drones fly there directly in waves, one, two, there is a third wave, and we also notice anti-aircraft means. defenses notice that, for example, the first wave has passed there, its there shot down, and the second wave goes, for example, another way, then the third wave goes the third way, why is this happening, because these drones can, can, among other things, communicate with each other, and if, for example, the first wave passed and was shot down, then it is some kind of connection with the second wave, they understand that the lost connection with the first wave, it means that they were either shot down or they did not achieve this goal that was determined, and the second wave is trying to land, and move another

way to bypass those ppo facilities that are directly on the ground, i.e. the options for the application of that, precisely the accessories that have now been found in the latest versions of the shaheds, it is just possible, it can be different here, that is, the options that i just listed, well, that is, if i understood for myself, then in fact, if it is said, let's say there is a certain number of ukrainian operators there or any other, then in fact the enemy side from... knows that, after a certain time, it will receive a signal from this drone, there with an interval there, well, 5-7 seconds, yes , that is , if this signal disappears, it means that this the drone was shot down, and there are probably ukrainian units or air defense units working in this area, and therefore a new wave of drones must be sent along a different route with the same data received from the shaheds, that is , in fact, this is a means of informing... the enemy, where

our armed forces shoot down this or that drone, well it's very similar to that, actually, very similar to that, because basically, look, i emphasize again, they 're adapting and they're trying to use every available opportunity to be as effective as possible for their point vision to use drones, they understand that the shahedis are a state-of-the-art weapon , they understand that it is a simple enough weapon, but it is effective, from their point of view, from the point of view, not only... overcoming the exhaustion of the air defense system, so they so can use these means to either communicate with each other for orientation, for orientation on the terrain, or remotely, maybe there, to detonate or in some other way, that is, it is some such a fairly simple way for for them to be able to use our gsm systems, our gsm stations to communicate with each other.

let's say this, then the question arises that the ukrainian side should develop certain countermeasures, because for now these gsm modules are fastened there with tape, in the future they will certainly become a modular solution that will be built into these shahedis, which means that now it is necessary to think about how to counteract this, it is possible to block sim cards in some way, taking into account that these are the sim cards that are on the shelves from the perspective of the constant speed of chess compared there with its operator, who can be there on foot, which can be enough , in fact, it is quite difficult and difficult to do, you understand, if it is just a station of a mobile operator, it identifies that it is a sim card of a ukrainian production, it does not draw certain conclusions about the speed of its movement, well, in principle, you see, some cars drive at a speed of 110 km/h and inside sits a driver who has... a mobile phone, a mobile phone, a valid ukrainian sim card

production, in general, the sim card is ukrainian, and therefore, in principle, it is difficult to say here how a mobile operator can react to this device. of course, we would like all gsm communication to be cut off immediately when these shaheeds are launched, but there are other consequences, and we also use it, and the military also uses it, and it is also impossible to cut it completely, and that's why it's going to be such a difficult difficult decision, and so far with remains an effective decision when to shoot down these drones, in mobile groups, to use air defense means, so far at this stage it is so, maybe another more technological solution will appear. with regard to misleading, let's say, by radio-electronic means of misleading these drones, with regard to their positioning on the ground, that is, when for some time, during the period of attack of these drones, a certain error may be introduced into the work of gsm stations so that the drones disorientated, if

they use them, the location of mobile apparatus stations for orientation on the terrain, let's say that, but still i will say, a simple decision on their part. it can be quite effective, again i emphasize, but on the other hand, the use of air defense means in the context that we know that the enemy is trying to use our mobile operators is a certain, let's say, trump card for us, in order to we were able to use this trump after some time to make countermeasures, again i emphasize, effective weapons can be in the first stage, after some time you can find different ways. in order to counteract it, and sooner or later a way out will be found with this means to counteract it. and mr. anton, one more question, in addition to how to improve the quality of detection of these shaheeds in the air, i know that you are in contact with the information security company, there were certain developments of the radio

reconnaissance system, which can detect various unmanned complexes that are in a certain image in the air, does it mean that this direction can also be promising for the consolidation of our reconnaissance field in countermeasures against russian drones, in general, as far as is known, the infodefense campaign, it deals with means of realtronic intelligence, that is, they are passive, these are means that in passive mode allow you to detect the source of radio radiation, which can be located, including on unmanned literal devices, if, if we talk about an alarm system, that is, a system that would warn about the presence of drones, about the presence of such devices in the air, then today, as far as is known, they also have a certain complex that allows through the mask of the signal, i.e. a certain mask of the signals of these drones, which are the most common in the russian federation, which are the most frequently used, is embedded in it, it compares them , concludes that this or that drone is there and

signals this directly to the operator or crew or unit , that this or that drone is present nearby, identifies... this drone and says that this is such a situation, and based on this, appropriate decisions are already made, nevertheless, we must also understand that the enemy is constantly updating drones, adding certain drones their capabilities, we also add their capabilities, parameters to these electronic intelligence tools including, so it's such a constant struggle, but it's ongoing, and every manufacturer, including information security companies, other manufacturers, they're trying to invent just... tools , which would allow us to detect drones in a timely manner, on the other hand, we have to understand that, in relation to these drones, the mines are a simple thing, easy to orientate from the point of view of the terrain, but it is difficult from the point of view that it

still reaches the one or another point is trying to reach this point, to hit it, er, mobile groups are also used for this , acoustic means of reconnaissance can also be used for this, that is, it is possible to find out where this drone is directly located by the sound of a moped somewhere, such a specific sound it is also possible to detect this drone by other signs, that is, theirs, they still have a certain dispersion surface , the use of radar devices that allow you to detect such small, aerial targets, this is also an appropriate moment for countering these drones, i.e in general, countermeasures against such drones as shakhet should be comprehensive. that is, on the one hand, it is a detection system, on the other hand, it is an impression system, if we talk about detection systems, then they can be of different types, the quality of the system is signaled by signals, that is, by sound, both by the reflected signal from the surface of this drone, and you can visually see them, as well as in thermal mode, because there is an engine that also emits a certain heat, this is

one component, the other component is impression systems, that is, they can be anti-aircraft units, these can be anti-aircraft missile units, that is, this is a complex interaction, at the moment, as we can see, from the effectiveness of the impression of these shaheeds on the territory, in the air space on the territory of ukraine, it indicates that our military is trying to destroy as efficiently as possible, in order to destroy these dons, which are in the territory of ukraine, as efficiently as possible and in greater quantity. mr. anton, thank you very much for your professional comments, for your time, and i would like to remind our viewers that anton mikhnenko, a military man, was on the air security and technology expert, and then we'll move on to another topic, talk about the equipment that is needed on the battlefield, but before that, i'd like us to watch a video together from under the pincers, where our

soldiers carry their wounded comrade , this video is quite emotional, because we can see how difficult the road is, and how three soldiers, at the expense of this, conditionally , let's say this, well, the carts are dragging their wounded comrade, they actually carried out this march of about 5 km. and the good news is because indeed this comrade, who was wounded, was handed over to medics, and everything was fine, but we understand how difficult the conditions are now around the tick, in other areas of the front, and that technical means, cars and all-terrain vehicles are needed , which can provide... assistance to our military, we understand that there are enemy drones there that can, well, attack our

soldiers, but we understand that we need to look for, well, technological options that can, well, help our soldiers, and now we will talk in more detail about possible solutions, about technological solutions with our next guest, we are joined by igor kornilov, this is the project manager of tofthal , which develops platforms, both manned and unmanned, that can be used by our soldiers on the battlefield, mr. igor, i welcome you, it's nice to see and hear , for the sake of seeing you too, you must have seen this video, where our guys, well, try, well, in such difficult conditions, to drag their t-comrade along such a, well , broken road, and then for this

the question arises, if at the disposal of our divisions were the platforms that your company develops, your company manufactures, how long would it take, let's say , to overcome these 5 km on your platform and in parallel, so that you could tell us exactly what kind of platforms your team is developing, yes, mr. sergey, i our company already understands that there is such a problem , and that is why we are conducting this work, as for the time that would be needed to evacuate a wounded person to a distance of 5 km, taking into account that the speed of the platform is 10 km/h, it took only, somewhere up to 30 minutes to evacuate the victim to the place, providing assistance. and our main idea in the development of these platforms was to create an all-terrain vehicle with

remote control, but able to move over the most difficult types of terrain, that is, fallen trees, swamps, boulders, water bodies, snow and even ice. in the video you can see footage from one of the tests where the running characteristics were checked and seeing these footage that you showed before the inclusion, we, we clearly understand that these platforms would be indispensable in such conditions, then the next question arises, were there offers to supply such platforms to our military, if so, how did relations with potential customers of these samples develop further. yes , there have already been such requests and proposals, but a very important point that must be satisfied for

the military is the implementation of communication systems that will be resistant to the technical means of enemy attacks. and it is precisely on this that we are currently conducting active work in order to meet these needs and already start supplying these platforms to our military, because we understand that in the district clashes with the enemy, it is the necessity, the technical, the technical capabilities of these platforms, in the conditions of harep, this is a critical point, and it must be resolved, mr. igor, and theoretically it can be assumed that, conditionally speaking, these platforms in the presence of such a reliable secure connection , they could, well frankly speaking, if they were there now , they could help... our marines, who get bridgeheads there on the left bank of the dnieper, when, relatively speaking,

fighters cross the dnieper in fast boats, and part of loads can be loaded on these platforms, which can, conditionally speaking, cross the dnipro and land on you in those areas, where these cargoes can then be picked up by the marines, yes, of course, mr. serhiy, this is exactly what these platforms were created for, to ensure, the implementation, in that including logistical tasks, in those, in those types of terrain, where it is impossible to use any other equipment, if we talk about forcing the dnieper and landing and delivering provisions and material and technical means by water to the left bank, then these platforms there would be very useful. mr. igor, you are talking about the fact that you are currently solving the issue of secure communication there, control channels, and we have such a structure called brain one,

which works there under mindigits, and in fact they talked about the fact that there are at least 75 developments in the field of ground-based robotic platforms there, some of them have already been tested under the reb, the question arises , did you turn to this structure in order, relatively speaking, to get help in obtaining a secure communication channel there, in order to speed up the creation of an already effective apparatus , which can be used on the battlefield as soon as possible. yes, mr. sergey, we are already in constant contact with the brave one platform with the accelerator. but there is one point regarding the choice of communication system specifically for our platforms, because they are used in the most complex landscapes, that is , to provide communication not just for a ground robotic complex, but for a robotic complex that moves through forest strips, through hills, through water and

so on is, so to speak, a problem with an asterisk, but in any case we constantly get consultations from colleagues from the braive one platform in these matters and one of the developers of these systems is provided to us by this platform, so we are trying to speed up the selection of the necessary system and put it into mass production. mr. igor, thank you very much for the inclusion, for these explanations, i would like it as soon as possible. well, after all, you have completed the work on these samples, because they are really extremely necessary for our armed forces, we see examples there of necessity, of helping the wounded and forcing the dnipro, so i think that it is, well, maybe informational support is not will get in the way, and our military will see that there are still solutions that can help them on the battlefield, i will remind our viewers that my interlocutor was igor kornilov, who is

the project manager of the tofthal company, which develops... piloted and, as we can see, remotely manned platforms that can be used on the battlefield and reduce the risk to our military. these were the main military results of this day, and more international and economic news later on vasyl zima's big broadcast. good evening, we are from ukraine, these were the military results of the day, thank you to serhiy zgortsyuk, thank you to his guests, there is still a lot of interesting things ahead, and now i will tell you in detail about the most important news as of now. two residents of beryslav in the kherson region were wounded by enemy shelling, around two o'clock in the afternoon , the occupiers threw an explosive device into the city, targeting it near the administrative building. it was reported to the regional military

administration that the 22-year-old victim suffered an explosive injury. contusion and leg injury in a 37-year-old man, severe neck and head injury. earlier, the russians killed three people in the village garden terrorists shelled the settlement of iztileria. a 59-year-old local woman and two men died from their injuries. and russian troops wounded three people in turetsk, when they were waiting for humanitarian aid - reports the prosecutor's office of the donetsk region. in the morning, terrorists fired mortars at a residential quarter of the city and got into a queue and shot people in a queue. an 86-year-old woman and two men aged 63 and 34 were taken to the hospital with shrapnel injuries. the latter is in serious condition. and in in novogrodivka, donetsk region, rescuers pulled out the body of another dead person from under the rubble. thus, two people have already become victims of the russian attack. the public