[000:00:00;00] the vehicles are also engaged in the transportation of some additional cargo, and the polish drivers, it seems, are out of work, but actually, i think there is a political context in all this, you remember how the elections were held in poland recently, and i think the polish side , which did not quite win this election. but is still in power, very offended by official kyiv. studio. mr. oleksandr, in your opinion, what exactly can solve this problem, here are several government in poland, in december donald tusk will become the prime minister, who actually opposes blocking the border, but on december 4

, the council of the european union will meet, and this is precisely where they will consider this desire of the poles to cancel the transport visa-free, whether they will go for it in council of the eu? well, the council of the eu has already clearly stated that they will not go for it, in fact, if you have a claim against brussels, block brussels, go there and speak, by the way, there are many farmers from france there, from the netherlands, who do not agree with something are driving something is blocked there headquarters and so on, but here we see a move that is set to oppress ukrainian interests, and during the war, you remember that ukraine was very afraid of a blow at the time even a year ago from belarus along the border with poland, so that we would not cut off from the constant supply of goods

and weapons, so to speak. as you can see, there was no offensive from the side of belarus, but there was a blockade, what should not have been done, the russian military from the territory of belarus, is being done in a neighboring country, unfortunately, unfortunately, things happen, when even ours die drivers are waiting for the crossing of the 30-kilometer long queue, and of course it is just a matter of waiting until... the new government comes, well, this is a definite decision, but, but you see, the government that is coming has shown its own attitude to how the ukrainian side positions itself , studio. mr. oleksandr, let's change the subject, macedonia, actually, north macedonia, which presided over the osce this year, represented by

their minister of foreign affairs, said. that the discussion on the exclusion of russia is currently exhausted, on the exclusion from this organization, in your opinion, you as a person who specializes in the issues of this region, is this, in fact, some kind of local position of this country, or is this generally a diagnosis of the osce today? well, they really will not exclude russia, and this should have been understood, they have a lot of allies. because, let's say, the betrayal of europe, they were excluded there by basically all the countries of western europe and central europe, and the osce is all up to the ural mountains , including kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, which is an ally of russia, belarus, of course, it is not clear what is there in the transcaucasus, what kind of relations do they have, that is why russia has several votes

is always in their support regarding. ensuring their exclusion and therefore it is a reality and a given , of course, that it is very unfortunate that an organization that fights for security and stability in the european region cannot exclude its ranks, the aggressor and the country that has been attacking a foreign country for the second year in a row with its army, which is thousands tanks, armored personnel carriers and so on, all this is happening before the eyes of the whole world. well , you see, they also failed to expel russia from the un, from the osce, you see, they have their own support group, so boyar asmani is a minister of foreign affairs of north macedonia, he did not voice the position of the country, he voiced the state, as the head of this state, north macedonia is quite pro-ukrainian and

constantly provides us with weapons, support and so on, but the reality is that it is impossible to implement now. there are a lot of russians in the osce apparatus, in vienna, warsaw, prague, they actually know any step that the organization has to take, and we had an osce smm mission in kyiv before the start of the war, there were 50 of them citizens of russia, all of them are actually russian spies, so that russia was preparing for war, it promoted its candidacies in international organizations, and these candidacies work for the interests of russia, so the situation is what buyar asmani said, actually corresponds to ... what is actually, unfortunately, the studio, of course, mr. oleksandr, thank you very much for joining, oleksandr levchenko, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the republic of croatia, 2010-2017, and we continue, this year a number of people's

deputies were suspected of committing corruption crimes, fraud or abuse of official position, yes, lyudmila marchenko was detained while receiving a bribe in exchange for stopping a citizen from leaving ukraine, anatoliy gunko tried to transfer state land resources to an entrepreneur for an illegal reward, serhiy alexiyev is accused of fraud, he promised to help a foreigner avoid extradition for money, dmytro isaenko is suspected of trying to take over the land plot of the state construction plant. oleksandr dubinsky is accused of creating a scheme to illegally take people abroad. yaroslav dubnevich was declared wanted in the case of gas theft, and serhiy. bazyuk and anandrii odarchenko were suspected of bribing government officials to obtain subcontracts for reconstruction works. the last solution can be as follows. in general, according to law enforcement officers, the national anti-corruption bureau and the state bureau of investigation are conducting cases against more than

70 current and former people's deputies. gennadiy dubov, candidate of legal sciences, is now in touch with us. gennady, congratulations, i congratulate you. ah, i remember a few social surveys in which ukrainians talked about the fact that corruption is the most serious problem for ukraine after the full-scale war, and at the same time more than 50%, 59, in one of the surveys, 59% of ukrainians note that there is indeed work and progress in the fight against corruption in ukraine . how do you assess the latest cases, which are now in everyone's ears and with officials and people's elected officials, and how all this helps us in our cooperation with international partners, who are also very attentive to this and note that in particular

at different levels, that ukraine is now really taking big steps in the direction of overcoming this very problem, well, it is primarily a problem of ukraine itself and us. we must first of all evaluate from the position of our national interest, and here the evaluation is definitely positive, primarily regarding the activities of the national anti-corruption bureau over the last year, in fact, because if what you listed is the number of people's elected officials who are in custody, under investigation, regarding which materials about the commission of corruption offenses have been made public, it is absolutely unprecedented for the entire history of our country, there has never been such a thing, maybe even in the aggregate, there have been so many in the last year, and the following is very important, except perhaps dubinsky from the above, no one appeals to the political motives of the persecution, that is, one way or another, the language it is about a procedural struggle, even on the part of the suspects in the legal sphere, and actually they

are trying to justify, first of all, that it was supposedly a provocation on the part of the relevant law enforcement agencies, that they are being persecuted on a political basis, no one it's not even referenced, and that's great news for our discourse, because let 's also remember our history, absolutely always until now, when someone was persecuted, even in any way related to politics, immediately in the rhetoric it appeared that they were enemies, political opponents, ordered there and so on, today we don't even hear mostly about this kind of motives, so we can evaluate it definitely positively, especially since we also don't see even purely arithmetically any preferences for one or another political force, is accordingly clear the sense of being aware of the fact that they are being prosecuted if there are grounds, that is, if there are grounds to believe that a corruption offense has been committed, it is mostly recorded on video, audio and published by law enforcement agencies, then we actually see criminal proceedings, court trials, here there is

an unconditional positive, and above all , i will emphasize once again, from the side of our internal kitchen, so to speak, and the fact that we strive to build a truly european society from the point of view of values, from the point of view of the inadmissibility of any bribes there and corruption offenses at the same time, what is the danger here, the danger is that we should not measure the fight against corruption by the number of landings, because how do you place an order to law enforcement agencies, well, an order in quotes, as a public request, i mean. that's what they will do, and if they don't chase the quality of the investigation, but the number of people they bring to criminal responsibility, then there may be mistakes, there may be abuse, so on average, as a society, we have to demand from the law enforcement officers not so much that they put all the deputies, ministers and officials there, this is a completely wrong point of view, we should create a request so that they perform their work qualitatively and above all... create such an atmosphere where any unscrupulous the official will

understand that he will inevitably receive criminal punishment and criminal prosecution, therefore we have to direct public expectations in this corridor, so to speak, that the fight against corruption must necessarily take place within the limits of the law, therefore that we can get the opposite result in the end in terms of the construction plan, not exactly as a state-democratic basis, while i am talking about risks, i am not talking about the current situation, while law enforcement agencies only cause me personal admiration, i have been watching the topic for quite a long time and the last the year was absolutely, i repeat once again, unprecedented in this context, and i want to clarify, mr. gennadiy, you said that we can go another way, if we do not, we will act legally correctly, what can we turn into in such a case? well look but we already have some such negative manifestations from the point of view, for example, that if some deputy, official is released from bail, then it is immediately... treason, like he bought everyone there and will avoid responsibility, although this is directly

provided for by our law, we have to take legal instruments, for example , preventive measures, in the sense in which they are fixed in our legislation, which really meets european standards, released on bail, fine, let him be on bail awaiting trial, which should take place in his guilt must be proven to the judge, that is , we can turn into, relatively speaking, what aristotle called such, well, he called it democracy in... with a minus sign, when, conditionally speaking, the area of ​​demand or planting conditions including illegal actions against someone it does not even matter who, we must understand that one way or another the activities of law enforcement agencies and the activities of society itself are limited by legal boundaries, and in this regard, the criminal procedural code must be followed in relation to everyone, whether they like it society does not like. once again, today i see problems primarily with society's acceptance of, for example, preventive measures that are different from detention. here it is necessary to raise the legal awareness of our

society and understand that the presumption of innocence means that anyone, as long as he does not have a legal sentence of the court, which has entered into force, he is considered not guilty, this is the property of the centuries-old european legal tradition and not only european . mr. gennadiy, but these expectations that you are talking about, they actually are are related to the fact that, objectively, our citizens do not see so many arrests as criminal cases, including anti-corruption ones, well, look, we deny ourselves, this year i will repeat, there have never been in terms of quantity and validity , there are so many criminal proceedings against top officials , which is shown to us today on, we talk about criminal proceedings, but we do not see that at the court level these cases were completed and someone, as a result, went to prison, so when you say that society has waiting and maybe, well, it is necessary... to guide society into

the framework of the fact that legal boundaries should apply to everyone, that's why people appeal to the fact that we see criminal proceedings, but we do not see that these people then sit in prison. the european court , which is based on human rights standards, cannot proceed quickly, and this is exactly the problem , because fast courts are triads, triads that delivered verdicts in 15 minutes, and delivered verdicts, by the way, in 1937 on ... for example, 15% of verdicts were acquittals, but this does not mean anything from the point of view of the quality of justice, we have to understand, we will either receive, not completely perfect, we need to carry out individual reforms there, there are no issues, but the courts are long enough, the court process is long in europe, in the states the processes are not fast, yes, the same , it's been the same for a long time there, there are corrupt officials for two years or three, they can judge, it's absolutely normal, the alternative to this, the alternative to the european system is the troika, we don't want the troika, we've seen it in history. it is necessary for our society to understand it, or we

patiently waiting for the law to be implemented or we will get the 37th year, i think that in this context the choice is obvious and we need to measure these expectations through the prism of the european convention, european values ​​and our criminal procedural law. mr. gennadiy, thank you very much for the clarification, gennadiy dubov, candidate of legal sciences, was with us on the air. the verkhovna rada voted in the first reading for the project on the status of the english language in ukraine and against the law. rule about showing english-language films in cinemas in the original language with ukrainian subtitles, what will the approval of the document, the people's deputies shared their own vision? here, before the second reading, you need to think carefully about how to get out of this situation, our dubbing teams can, can simply lose their, their existence, so as an option, you can

see there, or mark a part of the film there, maybe there is a lower cost, in theaters there in a circle with our dubbing or of greater value with our dubbing, and of lesser value with titration undoubtedly, ukrainian is the only state language in our country, this bill is designed to help young people learn english better, because we are moving towards integration into the european union, there will be many european institutions whose language is english. and this is a good chance for young people to become officials for those who want it, volodymyr zelenskyi's bill on such a special status of the english language, well , probably one of the most progressive laws adopted by the verkhovna rada, it gives opportunities for ukrainians from the youngest to mature age to master the english language, and this

is what ukrainians want, 93% of parents would like their children to speak english well and more... half of ukrainians would like to improve their knowledge from september 24- in the year 2018, every kindergarten will have teachers who will be able to use english with children in kindergartens in the process of educational work, english will be compulsory in schools, and there will also be online courses for people free of charge, which would wanted to improve their knowledge, but it is also about certain categories of civil servants, border guards, there are senior officers of the armed forces, the police, about the fact that they must know the english language at a certain level, this level will be determined by the cabinet of ministers, and this will also apply officials, including on the ground, because

the investor must come and speak the same language with the officials who are supposed to help him, in order for the country to be rebuilt, and of course this is a plus for tourism, there will be signs in english, dubbing in english in transport and there for museums it will also be mandatory to have a translation of the exposition descriptions in english. the adoption of this draft law is extremely important for ukraine , given that we have already signed all of our basic documents that defined our european integration intentions, we have completed almost 80% of the work on the implementation of ukrainian legislation, and we understand that in the future we it will be necessary to communicate a lot, communicate, work, and

the language of communication is an international language, english, and if before, english was in the language of communication for politicians , diplomats, a wider circle of internationalists, then in the future, this, this language will become the language of communication for a much larger number of people, and it is not only managers of the highest categories, i mean the government, heads of ministries, deputies, but in fact, this is work that will continue at the level... oblast, regional, we see how many contacts are established at the level of local self-government, therefore, without a doubt , english is needed, and i think that in the first place it is not needed so much to our european and international partners,

as well as to ukrainians themselves. people's elected representatives have heard , we are moving forward to stop putin, europe must now demonstrate its determination that it is fully committed to a prosperous, democratic, western-oriented ukraine. the economist writes about this, noting that it is extremely important that america approves the last tranche of aid, because weapons, especially air defense equipment and long-range radio-guided missiles for striking russian supply lines, are important. in the article emphasize that putin will attack ukrainian cities and undermine its society in order to prevent the transformation of ukraine into a western democracy. in response, europe should redouble its efforts to ensure ukraine's progress by pledging money and eu membership. and bohdan ferenc, an expert on international issues, is now joining our team. on the air, mr. bohdan, we congratulate you, i congratulate you, so, in your opinion, is europe really ready today

to redouble its efforts to help ukraine on its way to the european union? there is hope that europe is ready, that is, yes, especially the member states of the european union, but this is one direction that is political, that is, we expect a really positive decision in december regarding the opening of negotiations, and our partners are working on this to convince all the member states of the european union to support this decision after all, and the other dimension is really financial and economic, i would say so, and here it is also important for the leaders of the european union member states to communicate with coalition partners, for example, certain countries and their societies, why double or increase aid to ukraine it is important not only in the short term, in the long term there are certain challenges, we have to understand this, especially in the context of changes in political players in one or another state, a member of the european union, for example, the recent elections in

the netherlands, they also change in some places , so to speak, internal political discourse, and this can affect, for example, those things related to expenditures, the budget, finances and other programs, which are also, in one or another country, aimed at supporting our ukrainians. citizens abroad, we have to work on this, but we expect our partners to also actively work in this direction, both in terms of communication, and in these issues of spending, budget, and finance, because we protect common values. mr. bohdan, i think you have also seen the article by the economist, which everyone has been actively discussing for the last week, it talks, in particular, about support. kuku ukraine, and in particular, it is about what

is assumed in america that, say, donald trump may be elected president of the united states of america, and in this case , weapons, the supply of weapons to ukraine may stop altogether. oh, should we have some kind of plan for such a case, absolutely, absolutely. we have to take into account different scenarios that could play out in our favor, which could, shall we say, again provoke certain challenges, and some of them we can also see now, again at the level of even the us election race, which, shall we also say, is a factor that affects the decision-making process and regarding the provision of military aid to ukraine, therefore there should be a plan a, a plan b and a plan: at a minimum, what to do when the situation there may change, we hope that in

the capitals of our partner states, for example, in berlin, i think they also appreciate certain challenges, understand that perhaps a more leadership role will be expected from our european partners in the context of military support for ukraine, er, and right now it is also necessary to talk about it and define common strategies for the short-term ... period and for the long-term period. mr. bohdan, let's also talk about the elections in russia, president volodymyr zelenskyi said that after the presidential elections in russia, the western leaders will actually have the ball in their court and will have the opportunity not to recognize putin as legitimate. in your opinion, is it likely that such a scenario will occur, and what before the presentation. we will add the illegitimately elected president of russia. well, we may, and what concerns

western leaders, this, well, i will say, i think that this will be a debatable issue within western societies, and why, because there is a factor, after all, of nuclear weapons, mr. blinken is also about this often points out, and joe biden, that is, yes, everything is even, based on their yes let's say, reasoning. there should be some kind of clear, let's say, clear context, what to do with it, if the situation escalates even more in the geopolitical plan, in the security plan, and another question is that after 2014, especially when the russians held elections there in the temporarily occupied territories, yes, they attracted , so to speak, these pseudo-own... resources in order to directly show, include representatives of the temporarily occupied crimea,

also, as for me, the reaction of the western... state leaders was weak, they are now themselves admit, and at that time it was necessary not to support this legitimacy in the context of the election process, especially that which concerned such very important issues as legitimacy in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine, so we will watch the reaction of the leading leaders there, but the fact is nuclear , the factor that the russian-ukrainian war continues, it will influence the decision that will be made by one or another force, in particular through the decisions that will be made in the future, as well as through in particular, the situation in which we are all now, in the context of the amount of aid, mr. bohdan, i cannot help but ask

the very end, and whether this aid is really decreasing now only because of the fatigue of western society and, in general, because of the duration of this war, in i think , i think, the duration of the war really determines , let’s say, the mood, we just have to be aware of it, that is, yes, this is the first, second question, it is a change of emphasis, in some places, which occurs in the political discourses of our partners there, in someone: someone's election again after all, these electoral battles, someone has problems of a financial nature, raising the standard of living, and they refocus in some places on internal, let's say, political, social issues, problems, but we also have to communicate on a systemic level with political leaders, let's say, players, parties , so that they

also do not forget that the war, unfortunately, again, is not only ukraine's war, yes, for its sovereignty, it is for common values, and that these leaders, politicians and parties also do not forget to communicate within our partners, states, society, this is very important, the media plays a key role, public attitudes, they are also formed by political discourse, and this political discourse should be about ukraine and our common values ​​and the fight against russian aggression. of course, thank you for your answers, for joining our broadcast, bohdan ferrens, an expert on international issues, is in touch with us, and then for your attention news, stay with us.

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